In truth the rest of the world are sick to death with both the US and Russia at this stage
You're equating the US with Russia? Has Russia spent the last 15 years bombing countries on the other side of the planet for bullshit reasons? The U.S. has a thousand military bases around the world - how many does Russia have.
We have a Russian operative asking Jr. if he was interested in dirt about the Clintons. We have Jr. responding to the email "I love it".
And that's the most that came out of that little chestnut. Thus the debunking.
Yes, we'll see. We have very smart, determined people that will decide that.
Deep state hacks, you mean. Besides, why do Russiphobes continue to fuck this chicken after it came out that not only did the Clinton campaign solicit the Steele Dossier, it paid for it. Which relies on Russian sources.
This is pure Swiftboating from Democrats: smear your opponent of something you are guilty of.
2016 election: Russia relevant (not saying Russia did it, just it's a story)
Sounds like the same "reasoning" used to "teach the controversy" on intelligence design, vaccines causing autism, and whether or not climate change is happening. You know, where the media gives credence to crackpots instead of calling them out on their bullshit.
Which is what the Russia hysteria is: bullshit. There is as much evidence to support the narratives you rattled off as there is that the government is doing mind control via Chem Trails from airplanes.
What are you talking about? The profit motive is the VERY THING that incentivized companies to meet consumer demand, because that is the only way the company can make money in a free market.
What are you talking about. With regulation, internet providers will behave the same as any other monopoly throughout history, offering shitty products while maximizing profits extracted from their customers.
Clinton did none of those things. She was never in a position to sell Uranium to Russia - indeed, that's not even the scandal! (The "scandal", which is also bogus, is she supposedly approved a Uranium ore mine sale to a Russian company after accepting a donation.
You get these excuses from Snopes or Media Matters? Even if she didn't break any laws, the matter of her husband personally profiting from interests behind the deal and Hillary breaking her confirmation promises to disclose conflicts of interest are easy yes-or-no questions. And the answers are yes, they did.
The Obama administration's IRS never attacked citizens based on political views. It, as it is required to do by law, gave special examination to organizations claiming tax immunity that were apparently political given certain keyword and key phrases. One such key phrase was "Tea Party". Another was "Occupy". The Republicans admitted it was a fictional smear against the IRS today [bloomberg.com], as it happens.
Oh it certainly did. This denial is even more laughable than Infowars conspiracies. You're in la-la land.
The prior AC is obviously a Hillbot apologist and thus a crackpot. But the broken clock is right on the IRS, as the media and conservatives had it completely backwards. Not only did the government scrutinize liberal organizations for a longer period of time, the only ones to be denied tax-exempt status were liberal. Not conservative.
And they only have one choice because their local government has granted that ISP a monopoly.
Which they would have anyway, as market consolidation and the high costs of entry would leave them with a single provider. Thus the deal of exclusive access in return for regulation.
If Ajit Pai and Trump truly believe in the free market, then they'll roll back net neutrality, then follow it up by prohibiting local governments from granting local service monopolies.
Which would still leave you with a single provider, but one that provides shitty service for high prices. No, the only solution to your problem is for network infrastructure to be nationalized and built out by the state, same as roads and highways.
You say that as if Democrats aren't wholly on board with these shenanigans. Corporate Cory will reverse these FCC rules about as fast as Obama stopped using drone strikes to murder innocent people.
The DNC is on fire right now, the corporate wing kicked out the SJW wing
Dude - it's the same wing. Corporate Democrats are the one's pushing all the SJW bullshit so people will argue about privilege instead of how shitty they are. Case in point: the leaked emails showing how corporatist Tom Perez and current DNC chair suggested smearing Sanders as the "white" candidate in the race. Which of course formed one of the primary Swiftboating campaigns for Hillary "Superpredators" Clinton.
I wouldn't - he applies the same line of magical reasoning to criminal justice cases, where poor people under high stress situations should act as if they all have Harvard law degrees, but cops can violate the law with impunity.
But this is what America wanted. They wanted to be lied to, deceived, and dragged over the coals. They wanted big business to run over them. The wanted the rich to trod them underfoot. They wanted to be screwed over.
You're including Democrats in this, yes? Hillary is far more incompetent and corrupt than Trump is, and backed her husband's deregulation that allowed six media companies to own almost all broadcast, print and internet services today.
The problem is that in most places in the US you have a corrupt local government that has made deals for rights-of-way that enable only one high speed internet provider. This means that you have no competition and therefore the free market does not work and you are stuck as the victim of a monopoly.
Or the problem is that someone doesn't remember their junior high econ, as market consolidation would leave you with a single provider, even if you live in a mythical county with four cable companies and three dsl providers wiring each and every house. Thus the deal for right-of-ways in return for regulation.
Umm, many? "All models are wrong" is a very common thing
Only if we're counting every thesis and hypothesis as a peer-reviewed theory, which is of course nonsense.
Most recently, the most recent models have been shown to vastly overstate the warming case: http://reason/
Reason??? I'm happy to read their pieces on why drug prohibition/civil forfeiture/NSA spying should be ended, but on the subject of climate change they should be taken as seriously as a Young Earth Creationist telling you that carbon dating is crap.
Because for a libertarian to admit that AGW is real is to admit that libertarianism could never stop it, and the only things that would are things that libertarians despise: massive government regulation and massive government spending. Regulation and spending we have not seen the likes of since WWII. Which is why libertarians deny climate change like young earth creationists deny the carbon dating of dinosaur bones. To paraphrase that old line about paychecks:
It's hard to get a Libertarian to understand something when his ideology is dependent on his not understanding it.
Well, unfortunately, it was his own party which jumped on Three Mile Island to torpedo nuclear power in the USA.
Unfortunate that it didn't happen 30 years later. Nuclear power is completely asinine. It never would have existed without billions (per plant) in taxpayer subsidies, requires billions more in security and maintenance, and billions later on to decomission. And thats before even getting to the waste that will be a problem for thousands of years.
Nuclear power is unjustifiable based on cost alone.
I'm pretty well convinced that the CAGW scare is in fact another power and money grab in a long series of grabs.
Right. Just like the campaign to eradicate polio. And mandatory seat belts in cars. And banning lead paint and asbestos. Librul gubbmit power grabs, I tell you.
yet these same people have been opposed to "nukular" for a long time now
Because nuclear power is completely and utterly unjustifiable based on cost alone.
The likes of North Korea and Iran will try to hide their weapons development behind the facade of a civil power program
The CIA and even Mossad have said for 15 years that Iran has had no nuclear weapons program. North Korea has nukes because:
1) they remember the U.S. flattening all of their cities and killing millions of Koreans, even if your American Exceptionalist ass does not 2) the United States has been practicing invasions of North Korea every year since the 90's - look up Foal Eagle 3) Insurance against regime change - American Exceptionalists may have forgotten that the Iraq, Libya and Syria wars have all been based on total bullshit, but they haven't
the high cost of nuclear is largely because of the cost of regulations that need to be met
No shit, Sherlock. Why don't you got volunteer for the Fukushima clean up crew and ponder why regulations are needed with nuclear power plants and the waste they create.
Which you'll have no shortage of, if you rely on quacks like Spencer. When even Exxon-funded scientists admit that climate change is happening and humans are driving it, why bother with this line of denialism?
Widespread support for nuclear power among the CAGW community would certainly help their cause.
If they wanted to pretend that nuclear power isn't the most ludicrously expensive power source ever invented by man, sure. It never would have existed without many billions of taxpayer dollars underwriting each and every plant that's ever been constructed.
Behold, the power of the Hatorade Distortion Field! Where the latest operating system not running on a 7 year old device is totally the same thing as brand new devices not running the current operating system.
No Republican has done as much to hurt the poor as Bill Clinton did when he gutted welfare.
No Republican has put more blacks and Latinos in jail than Clinton's draconian crime bills in the 90's.
No Republican has tried to outright cut Social Security benefits like Obama tried to do for years.
No Republican has outright said he will ignore Congress and start a war without any kind of authorization, the way Obama threatened to do on Syria.
No Republican has come close to Obama's deportation record.
No Republican has come close to Obama's persecution of whisteblowers.
No Republican has come close to Obama's NDAA which allows the military to arrest you on American soil and throw you in prison indefinitely without a lawyer or a trial.
It's not? Tell that to Democrats, Republicans, and media pundits who DGAF about murdering Arabs with drones and other weaponry, and in some cases cheer for it.
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In truth the rest of the world are sick to death with both the US and Russia at this stage
You're equating the US with Russia? Has Russia spent the last 15 years bombing countries on the other side of the planet for bullshit reasons? The U.S. has a thousand military bases around the world - how many does Russia have.
etc.
Yeah. It did.
And that's the most that came out of that little chestnut. Thus the debunking.
Deep state hacks, you mean. Besides, why do Russiphobes continue to fuck this chicken after it came out that not only did the Clinton campaign solicit the Steele Dossier, it paid for it. Which relies on Russian sources.
This is pure Swiftboating from Democrats: smear your opponent of something you are guilty of.
Sounds like the same "reasoning" used to "teach the controversy" on intelligence design, vaccines causing autism, and whether or not climate change is happening. You know, where the media gives credence to crackpots instead of calling them out on their bullshit.
Which is what the Russia hysteria is: bullshit. There is as much evidence to support the narratives you rattled off as there is that the government is doing mind control via Chem Trails from airplanes.
What are you talking about. With regulation, internet providers will behave the same as any other monopoly throughout history, offering shitty products while maximizing profits extracted from their customers.
Because both parties are big believes in giving public tax dollars to corporate entities who have to do little to nothing in return for it.
You get these excuses from Snopes or Media Matters? Even if she didn't break any laws, the matter of her husband personally profiting from interests behind the deal and Hillary breaking her confirmation promises to disclose conflicts of interest are easy yes-or-no questions. And the answers are yes, they did.
The prior AC is obviously a Hillbot apologist and thus a crackpot. But the broken clock is right on the IRS, as the media and conservatives had it completely backwards. Not only did the government scrutinize liberal organizations for a longer period of time, the only ones to be denied tax-exempt status were liberal. Not conservative.
Which they would have anyway, as market consolidation and the high costs of entry would leave them with a single provider. Thus the deal of exclusive access in return for regulation.
Which would still leave you with a single provider, but one that provides shitty service for high prices. No, the only solution to your problem is for network infrastructure to be nationalized and built out by the state, same as roads and highways.
You say that as if Democrats aren't wholly on board with these shenanigans. Corporate Cory will reverse these FCC rules about as fast as Obama stopped using drone strikes to murder innocent people.
Dude - it's the same wing. Corporate Democrats are the one's pushing all the SJW bullshit so people will argue about privilege instead of how shitty they are. Case in point: the leaked emails showing how corporatist Tom Perez and current DNC chair suggested smearing Sanders as the "white" candidate in the race. Which of course formed one of the primary Swiftboating campaigns for Hillary "Superpredators" Clinton.
I wouldn't - he applies the same line of magical reasoning to criminal justice cases, where poor people under high stress situations should act as if they all have Harvard law degrees, but cops can violate the law with impunity.
You're including Democrats in this, yes? Hillary is far more incompetent and corrupt than Trump is, and backed her husband's deregulation that allowed six media companies to own almost all broadcast, print and internet services today.
Or the problem is that someone doesn't remember their junior high econ, as market consolidation would leave you with a single provider, even if you live in a mythical county with four cable companies and three dsl providers wiring each and every house. Thus the deal for right-of-ways in return for regulation.
Only if we're counting every thesis and hypothesis as a peer-reviewed theory, which is of course nonsense.
Reason??? I'm happy to read their pieces on why drug prohibition/civil forfeiture/NSA spying should be ended, but on the subject of climate change they should be taken as seriously as a Young Earth Creationist telling you that carbon dating is crap.
Because for a libertarian to admit that AGW is real is to admit that libertarianism could never stop it, and the only things that would are things that libertarians despise: massive government regulation and massive government spending. Regulation and spending we have not seen the likes of since WWII. Which is why libertarians deny climate change like young earth creationists deny the carbon dating of dinosaur bones. To paraphrase that old line about paychecks:
It's hard to get a Libertarian to understand something when his ideology is dependent on his not understanding it.
Unfortunate that it didn't happen 30 years later. Nuclear power is completely asinine. It never would have existed without billions (per plant) in taxpayer subsidies, requires billions more in security and maintenance, and billions later on to decomission. And thats before even getting to the waste that will be a problem for thousands of years.
Nuclear power is unjustifiable based on cost alone.
Right. Just like the campaign to eradicate polio. And mandatory seat belts in cars. And banning lead paint and asbestos. Librul gubbmit power grabs, I tell you.
Because nuclear power is completely and utterly unjustifiable based on cost alone.
The CIA and even Mossad have said for 15 years that Iran has had no nuclear weapons program. North Korea has nukes because:
1) they remember the U.S. flattening all of their cities and killing millions of Koreans, even if your American Exceptionalist ass does not
2) the United States has been practicing invasions of North Korea every year since the 90's - look up Foal Eagle
3) Insurance against regime change - American Exceptionalists may have forgotten that the Iraq, Libya and Syria wars have all been based on total bullshit, but they haven't
No shit, Sherlock. Why don't you got volunteer for the Fukushima clean up crew and ponder why regulations are needed with nuclear power plants and the waste they create.
Which you'll have no shortage of, if you rely on quacks like Spencer. When even Exxon-funded scientists admit that climate change is happening and humans are driving it, why bother with this line of denialism?
If they wanted to pretend that nuclear power isn't the most ludicrously expensive power source ever invented by man, sure. It never would have existed without many billions of taxpayer dollars underwriting each and every plant that's ever been constructed.
Behold, the power of the Hatorade Distortion Field! Where the latest operating system not running on a 7 year old device is totally the same thing as brand new devices not running the current operating system.
Yes. Even by U.S. standards.
People need to take off their partisan blinders:
No Republican has done as much to hurt the poor as Bill Clinton did when he gutted welfare.
No Republican has put more blacks and Latinos in jail than Clinton's draconian crime bills in the 90's.
No Republican has tried to outright cut Social Security benefits like Obama tried to do for years.
No Republican has outright said he will ignore Congress and start a war without any kind of authorization, the way Obama threatened to do on Syria.
No Republican has come close to Obama's deportation record.
No Republican has come close to Obama's persecution of whisteblowers.
No Republican has come close to Obama's NDAA which allows the military to arrest you on American soil and throw you in prison indefinitely without a lawyer or a trial.
More. Extreme. Than. The. GOP.
Haters gonna hate.
All of them. Why, were you operating under the fallacy that Democrats==left? They are, as often as not, more extreme right wingers than the GOP.
It's not? Tell that to Democrats, Republicans, and media pundits who DGAF about murdering Arabs with drones and other weaponry, and in some cases cheer for it.
This cartoon neatly address that particular line of "reasoning".
http://ficko-magazin.de/wp-con...
Another right-winger (by nature of supporting right-wing politicians) - what about him?
You mean it's your excuse of the moment. If it wasn't this, it would be something else - that's how denialism works.