While you are obviously correct I don't believe that the analogy breaks as easily as you seem to believe. If I publish my code under the GNU then I lost 100% of the ability to sell it. Since I don't value my code at zero it does represent giving up something for an ideal.
I'm not suggesting that people who are bandwidth poor be forced to share their bandwidth with everyone either, while I know many high bandwidth users who will consume what ever you give them the vast majority of people could easily spare enough from their connections to allow a few people to piggy back on their connection at a reasonable speed for checking email and reading Slashdot.
A piece of hardware that allowed such a set up to be trivially deployed, which manages sign on, keeps logs and maintains a DMZ separated from the LAN might be the spur which allowed for much wider wireless access.
Never the less I think that the moderation of the parent as overrated was harsh.
Looks like Fon are trying to set up a social moverment rather than just another company. I shave to assume that the people who want to know why they should share their bandwidth are the same people who write code for Linux but don't publish it for fear that someone might benifit from their hardwork.
I don't really believe that the cost of the router is important to most people reading here, I suspect despite some people claiming to have bought their routers for thrupence hapney most./ reader have >$100 worth of router at home.
Some Dutch kid is very bright and has found a rapidly converging power series for finding roots. It has been done before but may be this one is slightly more or less cool that the others.
What this does have any sodding effect on is Abel's Impossibility Theorem which is a good thing because it would screw up lots of other things that take Abel as axiomatic.
All credit to the kid I certainly never produced anything a tenth that far about my school grade and this is the slack news season.
Once the internet was designed to withstand problems (a euphemism for a nuclear strike) at multiple nodes but since commercial interest like to keep as many things as possible in one building we see today that a small fire in a maintenance tunnel has a dramatic effect on the over all network latency. There just isn't as much redundancy as there used to be and that may be worse for us all than your download time for SP2.
Faster is good? Yes fast is good but faster is becoming less and less important because hops are starting already become the largest influence on the system. We need to look at ways of tending to produce longer jumps between switches and reductions in the number of choke points.
The bias apparent in this article and the crappy comparison chart aside this review doesn't even begin to touch base as a throughly researched opinion ion piece and ends up look like an advert for Brightmail.
However we do in the OS community face a UI problem. The missing rung on the ladder to mass acceptance is the absence of high quality UI that give users and indeed administrators of the point and drool variety a interface with the service they are seeking to use.
Before the Highly polished phpmyadmin I met serious resistance from admins for MySQL over msSQL based mostly on interface. The same goes for CUPS which has a web interface that I think has come of age if not achieve adult hood. The Webmin's are OK as long as you don't tinker to much or do anything slightly non-standard. I dislike Swat and am now so used to editing smb.conf I haven't even checked it;s working. I think that a lot of these services, apache, Spamassassin and X11 for example, could bare providing embedded configuration UI's if they aim to capture wider markets. Mandrakes X11 confugulator is very good.
I was going to mention the difficulty presented for admins with widely deployed Outlook when looking at these kind of solutions but then I though no only have sympathy where it is due. An I know that SpamAssassin could work seamlessly with Outlook but if users want a front end for white-listing then SpamAssassin isn't going to be your toy just yet.
Though we love the text based config file you may have to put a lot of working into configuration UI's if you want to enter the area as far as that reviewer and many sysadmins are concerned.
So we have hard coded no-fly zones which counter any attempt by the pilot to enter protected air space.
Software/hardware on the plane literally counteracts using the avionics any attempt to enter that air space. This is better than the remote control options because it is self contained on the planes it removes the possibility of remote control by a hijacker. This is also cheep because all modern planes would only require software upgrades.
So as far as I'm aware (and sincerely hope) there are manual fall backs especially in a landing run where not all airports have Auto-Land and even those that do can't guarantee no outage's.
So assume that we can remove manual override which I don't think is a good idea despite statistics that show that most errors are human (references several studdies of Metro lines and aircraft accidents) I don't like the idea of no manual over ride, failing that you can always take a screw driver to it and force it on to some other fall back system.
But my favourite is the beautiful hack, for use when this can't be dissabled but a guy with a degree in aviation engineering, you change the code. You set up the no fly zones so the plane is trapped in a narrow corridor all the way to to the target.
Oh yes there is also the little matter of how you deal with places like Hong Kong where the Sky scrapers clip the wing tips on the way into land.
Oh yes and the whole thing relies on GPS so you could have a go a jamming that in the same way you'd jam the remote control solutions.
This is a missunderstanding, it is designed to slow typists down.
The reason is simple on old pre-golf ball typewriters the heads would jam of the first key boards which were alphabetic because both the keyboard arrangements put common pairs and triplets close together and they were close together in the hammer array which means that two hammers swinging together would clash. This was fix in a two fold way by making the keyboard require difficult combernations and movements of the fingers and an arrangement of hammers such that common pairs of letter swung from different sides of the array.
America was all set to change to the more comfortable and faster Dvorak system before the second world war (trails in the US Navy my college tells me) but the war sort of put a stop to that and afterwards there were too many trained typists on the QWERTY layout.
Tunnel Carpel is a direct result of the QWERTY layout and is not experience by Dvorak users (as much).
When I choose who I'm going to do business with I make a number of choices and at every stage it is a trade off.
I choose my ISP, connectivity providers, on-line shops and many more on the basis of how I feel about the company ethical and morally. This leads me directly to not having anything to do with ebay or paypal what so ever
It is not as if they are lying (something I have serious problems with) it is laid out in black and white in the EULA.
If you happen to use eBay and never read the click through bits you can get to them here Ebay's EULA.
One request don't wine about it afterwards, it is after all your responsibility to know what contracts you entered into even if as I suspect the click thru EULA will be shown to be indefenceable in the courts.
BTW Kent Gilson, the founder, appears to be a high school drop out with more than one failed project behind him. How many more hits is it going to take this guy to make it.
Oh dear this is a company with 16 people lead by a guy who is a self confessed futurist to quote the article.
[i]Gilson insists his dream machine actually works. "I live in the future," he says. "Most people are pessimists who live in the present or the past." [/i]
I don't know about the rest of you but I don't think that these chips, already in use in numerous single function applications (satellites) are going to be on any machine I have access to in the near future (say 10 years).
It also leaves you with what a problem that everyone who's screwed around programming for to long, Ala the program which re-writes its own code, here we need software (more likely an OS) that re-writes its own hardware architecture in what becomes a very real sense. Think code compiled in real time for P4 architecture will a fraction of a second later be running on a Athlon.
Never the less SGI, NASA and a few others (the NSA I suspect) are buying this but I would tend to believe that this is because they cant afford not to. I don't think anyone is crunching serious or mission critical data with these.
The reason there are millions of started programs and few finished (forget perfection the argument is specious at best) it because getting to alpha release is the easy and the fun bit.
The problems after that are all about bug fixing and dealing with other people weird configs, detecting different platforms and dependency's and all that boring stuff. After all I bet any alpha programs you've written work perfectly on your box, I know it is true for mine.
I don't know about neurotic but the day before yesterday my Gnome fish was dead, a item of functionality of which I was not aware, I certainly clicked with some trepidation.
The problem I face every day has bugger all to do with the vague under the hood stuff that I see everyday about the inside or crypto engines but the problem of getting my clients to understand that the extra clicks when they send an email, the remebering a pass phrase, and the extra clicks to read incoming email is not only advisable but absolutly necessary. everyday I see lawyers send priviliged material over the internet and getting them to see both that it is going on a electronic post card and there is a solution is a task that has proved beyond me.
Slashdot Mirror
While you are obviously correct I don't believe that the analogy breaks as easily as you seem to believe. If I publish my code under the GNU then I lost 100% of the ability to sell it. Since I don't value my code at zero it does represent giving up something for an ideal.
I'm not suggesting that people who are bandwidth poor be forced to share their bandwidth with everyone either, while I know many high bandwidth users who will consume what ever you give them the vast majority of people could easily spare enough from their connections to allow a few people to piggy back on their connection at a reasonable speed for checking email and reading Slashdot.
A piece of hardware that allowed such a set up to be trivially deployed, which manages sign on, keeps logs and maintains a DMZ separated from the LAN might be the spur which allowed for much wider wireless access.
Never the less I think that the moderation of the parent as overrated was harsh.
Looks like Fon are trying to set up a social moverment rather than just another company. I shave to assume that the people who want to know why they should share their bandwidth are the same people who write code for Linux but don't publish it for fear that someone might benifit from their hardwork.
I don't really believe that the cost of the router is important to most people reading here, I suspect despite some people claiming to have bought their routers for thrupence hapney most ./ reader have >$100 worth of router at home.
Some Dutch kid is very bright and has found a rapidly converging power series for finding roots. It has been done before but may be this one is slightly more or less cool that the others.
What this does have any sodding effect on is Abel's Impossibility Theorem which is a good thing because it would screw up lots of other things that take Abel as axiomatic.
All credit to the kid I certainly never produced anything a tenth that far about my school grade and this is the slack news season.
Redundancy may soon be more vital than speed.
Once the internet was designed to withstand problems (a euphemism for a nuclear strike) at multiple nodes but since commercial interest like to keep as many things as possible in one building we see today that a small fire in a maintenance tunnel has a dramatic effect on the over all network latency. There just isn't as much redundancy as there used to be and that may be worse for us all than your download time for SP2.
Faster is good? Yes fast is good but faster is becoming less and less important because hops are starting already become the largest influence on the system. We need to look at ways of tending to produce longer jumps between switches and reductions in the number of choke points.
Just what I need a computer that hides from me by becoming the same colour as the desk.
I've been thinking and there isn't anywhere that I could make a case for saving
I'll just buy peanuts and learn Dentrassi.
The bias apparent in this article and the crappy comparison chart aside this review doesn't even begin to touch base as a throughly researched opinion ion piece and ends up look like an advert for Brightmail.
However we do in the OS community face a UI problem. The missing rung on the ladder to mass acceptance is the absence of high quality UI that give users and indeed administrators of the point and drool variety a interface with the service they are seeking to use.
Before the Highly polished phpmyadmin I met serious resistance from admins for MySQL over msSQL based mostly on interface. The same goes for CUPS which has a web interface that I think has come of age if not achieve adult hood. The Webmin's are OK as long as you don't tinker to much or do anything slightly non-standard. I dislike Swat and am now so used to editing smb.conf I haven't even checked it;s working. I think that a lot of these services, apache, Spamassassin and X11 for example, could bare providing embedded configuration UI's if they aim to capture wider markets. Mandrakes X11 confugulator is very good.
I was going to mention the difficulty presented for admins with widely deployed Outlook when looking at these kind of solutions but then I though no only have sympathy where it is due. An I know that SpamAssassin could work seamlessly with Outlook but if users want a front end for white-listing then SpamAssassin isn't going to be your toy just yet.
Though we love the text based config file you may have to put a lot of working into configuration UI's if you want to enter the area as far as that reviewer and many sysadmins are concerned.
So we have hard coded no-fly zones which counter any attempt by the pilot to enter protected air space.
Software/hardware on the plane literally counteracts using the avionics any attempt to enter that air space. This is better than the remote control options because it is self contained on the planes it removes the possibility of remote control by a hijacker. This is also cheep because all modern planes would only require software upgrades.
So as far as I'm aware (and sincerely hope) there are manual fall backs especially in a landing run where not all airports have Auto-Land and even those that do can't guarantee no outage's.
So assume that we can remove manual override which I don't think is a good idea despite statistics that show that most errors are human (references several studdies of Metro lines and aircraft accidents) I don't like the idea of no manual over ride, failing that you can always take a screw driver to it and force it on to some other fall back system.
But my favourite is the beautiful hack, for use when this can't be dissabled but a guy with a degree in aviation engineering, you change the code. You set up the no fly zones so the plane is trapped in a narrow corridor all the way to to the target.
Oh yes there is also the little matter of how you deal with places like Hong Kong where the Sky scrapers clip the wing tips on the way into land.
Oh yes and the whole thing relies on GPS so you could have a go a jamming that in the same way you'd jam the remote control solutions.
This is a missunderstanding, it is designed to slow typists down.
The reason is simple on old pre-golf ball typewriters the heads would jam of the first key boards which were alphabetic because both the keyboard arrangements put common pairs and triplets close together and they were close together in the hammer array which means that two hammers swinging together would clash.
This was fix in a two fold way by making the keyboard require difficult combernations and movements of the fingers and an arrangement of hammers such that common pairs of letter swung from different sides of the array.
America was all set to change to the more comfortable and faster Dvorak system before the second world war (trails in the US Navy my college tells me) but the war sort of put a stop to that and afterwards there were too many trained typists on the QWERTY layout.
Tunnel Carpel is a direct result of the QWERTY layout and is not experience by Dvorak users (as much).
When I choose who I'm going to do business with I make a number of choices and at every stage it is a trade off.
I choose my ISP, connectivity providers, on-line shops and many more on the basis of how I feel about the company ethical and morally. This leads me directly to not having anything to do with ebay or paypal what so ever
It is not as if they are lying (something I have serious problems with) it is laid out in black and white in the EULA.
If you happen to use eBay and never read the click through bits you can get to them here Ebay's EULA.
One request don't wine about it afterwards, it is after all your responsibility to know what contracts you entered into even if as I suspect the click thru EULA will be shown to be indefenceable in the courts.
Oh yes and there is this
Star Bridge
I can't stand testimonials.
BTW Kent Gilson, the founder, appears to be a high school drop out with more than one failed project behind him. How many more hits is it going to take this guy to make it.
Oh dear this is a company with 16 people lead by a guy who is a self confessed futurist to quote the article. [i]Gilson insists his dream machine actually works. "I live in the future," he says. "Most people are pessimists who live in the present or the past." [/i] I don't know about the rest of you but I don't think that these chips, already in use in numerous single function applications (satellites) are going to be on any machine I have access to in the near future (say 10 years). It also leaves you with what a problem that everyone who's screwed around programming for to long, Ala the program which re-writes its own code, here we need software (more likely an OS) that re-writes its own hardware architecture in what becomes a very real sense. Think code compiled in real time for P4 architecture will a fraction of a second later be running on a Athlon. Never the less SGI, NASA and a few others (the NSA I suspect) are buying this but I would tend to believe that this is because they cant afford not to. I don't think anyone is crunching serious or mission critical data with these.
The reason there are millions of started programs and few finished (forget perfection the argument is specious at best) it because getting to alpha release is the easy and the fun bit.
The problems after that are all about bug fixing and dealing with other people weird configs, detecting different platforms and dependency's and all that boring stuff. After all I bet any alpha programs you've written work perfectly on your box, I know it is true for mine.
I don't know about neurotic but the day before yesterday my Gnome fish was dead, a item of functionality of which I was not aware, I certainly clicked with some trepidation.
The problem I face every day has bugger all to do with the vague under the hood stuff that I see everyday about the inside or crypto engines but the problem of getting my clients to understand that the extra clicks when they send an email, the remebering a pass phrase, and the extra clicks to read incoming email is not only advisable but absolutly necessary. everyday I see lawyers send priviliged material over the internet and getting them to see both that it is going on a electronic post card and there is a solution is a task that has proved beyond me.
Suggestions from the floor?