By the same token, now you have to implement pie.toast() and cake.toast() and lots of other useless and irrelevant methods, even though you're never ever going to use them, simply because they extend the isBakeable() interface.
Unnecessary, since the IsBakeable interface provides a default implementation of the toast() method that throws an exception if you attempt to toast something that is not toastable.
The real issue is why the IsBakeable interface has a toast() method in the first place...
Unfortunately a great number of embedded control devices generate a new self-signed cert. every time they boot
I think your angst should be directed towards these lazy and inconsiderate hardware developers for violating the intended purpose of HTTPS, rather then at Firefox for doing what is essentially the right thing.
Oh, but wait, it makes your life just a little bit more difficult. I guess it must be bad.
Edsger Dijkstra remarked that "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense".. From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org].
You are seriously misinformed. I mean, what is this "384kbs" bullshit? Last time I checked I was browsing the net at 10Mbps+ with over 120G per month, and I certainly wasn't paying $175 for the privilege.
We're not talking about how CO2 and water vapor get into the atmosphere, we're talking about their effects after they do.
You mean like this?
We also know that water vapor soaks up 25 times as much heat as CO2...
So H2O is released into the atmosphere through combustion in much greater quantities then CO2 (courtesy of the larger quantities of hydrogen over carbon within hydrocarbons) and "soaks up 25 times as much heat" (apparently).
Dude, how could the atmosphere not be getting any hotter?
If I remember my high school chemistry correctly, hydrocarbons consist of hydrogen as well as carbon, and in much greater numbers. What do you think happens to all that hydrogen during combustion, hmm?
... do I need to look at the source code to make sure the email was sent?
To be absolutely 100% certain? Yes you do. Just because your mail was sent the last hundred times you hit "Send" is no guarantee it will the next time. Only with access to the actual sources can you have such a guarantee.
Your comment made me laugh... [rambling nonsense omitted]...
What makes me laugh is that America still calls itself the "Land of the Free" *snicker* and the "Home of the Brave" *guffaw*. You appear to be neither from over here. I'll probably be modded as flamebait or a troll for this, but really, after reading these types of articles again and again what else are we supposed to think?
I wouldn't care except that I am a citizen of the "Free World" and America styles itself as the "Leader of the Free World". What the fuck is up with that? Maybe we should vote on it; you Americans are okay with voting, right? Even if it means you might lose?
Your comment is insightful, but I'd only argue like this if this troubled area was hit by hurricanes more frequently than it currently is.
What, like twice in three years? Methinks your comments may come back to haunt you:-)
Let's play a games called "What if global warming is real and we are heating the atmosphere and causing more frequent and violent hurricanes along tropical and sub-tropical coastal areas regardless of how many millions of honest, god-faring people are living there". The good thing about this game is all we have to do is wait around a few decades to see which one of us is right. You get bonus points if you move to New Orleans (and survive).
Anyone have any insight as to how serious this ACTUALLY is?
How serious? This could potentially render the entire Internet inoperable. For real. Anyone who knows anything about basic Internet protocols should be shitting themselves right about now.
What we have here is a basic weakness in one of the fundamental Internet protocols; an assumption of trust that is no longer valid. Think spam but a million times worse.
I'm not usually one to fall prey to 'Imminent Collapse Of The Internet' hyperbole, but this one has me really worried.
Historically speaking, the societies that have violated basic human hygiene lasted far longer than those that did not. Does that mean we should all stop bathing?
Why this is a troll but the BSD post isn't is beyond me.
Probably because Ubuntu is for lamoes that can't use a fucking computer properly, whereas BSD is actually an old-skool UNIX system that every true geek should honor and revere, even if they wouldn't be seen dead using it.
No, his point was that the "low population density" of the U.S. vs. Asia (laughing now 'cause I'm an Aussie) will give the former an advantage over the latter for wireless internet. It won't, because the actual available bandwidth of the single shared wireless medium is significantly less then that of the multitude of wired and optical media, and always will be.
I mean, do you really expect the nations of Asia to dig up their extensive high speed wide band network infrastructure simply because a newer, sexier technology becomes available? Asians tend to be a little more practical then that.
It isn't actually a cloud, and saying "cloud" isn't any shorter or clearer than "internet" (in fact less clear).
Dude, there's like a hundred million things in the technical world that are called things that they're not based on nothing more then decades of habit. I mean, is a "bug" really just an insect? Does "bootstrap" really mean a piece of leather attached to a boot? To single out this one example is just splitting hairs.
Okay, so you don't like the term "The Cloud". That's cool, nothing wrong with that, but you have no grounds on which to object it. It is as valid a term as "bug" or "bootstrap" or countless others of which I'm sure the Slashdot community will happy to remind you.
You're assertion that no-one has any business calling the Internet "the cloud" is fundamentally flawed. End of story.
Please don't let anyone get away with calling the internet the cloud!
Traditionally, when network engineers and administrators draw diagrams of networks, they represent the connection to the Internet as a big bumpy object not unlike a child's drawing of a cloud. I have heard old hackers who used to work in the telecommunications industry during the 80's and 70's describe this object as 'the cloud', meaning the Internet.
This term predates the current usage by several decades, and is in fact the source of the current usage
This is a gentle but pedantic reminder that, if you're going to make an absolute assertion, make sure it is the correct assertion.
So the cabling of even a component cable with audio is going to be no more messy (than HDMI)....as far as prices go. HDMI are just as bad as the rest if you buy from the likes of BestBuy.
Yeah, because having both audio and video in the same, lightweight and easily connected cable is such a dumb idea (You know, like when your parents decided to have children).
The sooner HDMI replaces existing cable solutions, the better. All I need it a Linux box that can actually output digital audio through the video card and I'm set.
Seriously, a HDMI-style cable has been a long time coming. DRM is irrelevant on open systems and all non-open systems will be compromised eventually. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
The U.S. economy continues it's long slide into oblivion as the decision makers at all levels fail to grasp the importance of investing in new technologies and methodologies over simply providing a return on shareholder investment.
I see we're revising history now. Pluto was indeed a planet from roughly the time of its discover until it was reclassified in 2006.
I'll refer you to this post so I don't have to type it out again.
The short version: Pluto was never a 'planet' because, scientifically, there was no such thing as a 'planet' until 2006. Pluto was classified, not reclassified
(The last paragraph of my referred post also applies to you. Just don't let the fact that you're completely and utterly wrong get you down:-)
The reason that "Pluto is not, and never was, a planet" is because a) it does not conform to the current formal definition of a planet and b) there was no previous formal definition of a planet!
There is nothing to prevent the IAU from creating an amended definition for a planet that includes Pluto, but understand that until 2006 the word 'planet' was used as an ad-hoc term that had many possible definitions. Hell, if you want to use the original definition, then only Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and the Sun and the Moon are 'planets'.
Things change. What we call a 'planet' now may not describe a 'planet' in one hundred years time, and something we say is not a 'planet' may in fact be one. To quote one of my favorite authors: "There is insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
On another note, I'm really enjoying taking part in this discussion. Unlike most of the diatribes present in this forum, it seems as though the people involved in this one are really thinking about their positions and delivering (mostly) rational and reasoned arguments. Good on you, guys!
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By the same token, now you have to implement pie.toast() and cake.toast() and lots of other useless and irrelevant methods, even though you're never ever going to use them, simply because they extend the isBakeable() interface.
Unnecessary, since the IsBakeable interface provides a default implementation of the toast() method that throws an exception if you attempt to toast something that is not toastable.
The real issue is why the IsBakeable interface has a toast() method in the first place...
Ha ha ha, what a silly bunt.
Unfortunately a great number of embedded control devices generate a new self-signed cert. every time they boot
I think your angst should be directed towards these lazy and inconsiderate hardware developers for violating the intended purpose of HTTPS, rather then at Firefox for doing what is essentially the right thing.
Oh, but wait, it makes your life just a little bit more difficult. I guess it must be bad.
Edsger Dijkstra remarked that "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense".. From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org].
I believe that quote was directed towards BASIC, not COBAL (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Edsger_Dijkstra#Sourced, first quote in the list), although I suppose he could have said that about both.
You are seriously misinformed. I mean, what is this "384kbs" bullshit? Last time I checked I was browsing the net at 10Mbps+ with over 120G per month, and I certainly wasn't paying $175 for the privilege.
What about ext3?
ext3 can be expanded online but not shrunk.
We're not talking about how CO2 and water vapor get into the atmosphere, we're talking about their effects after they do.
You mean like this?
We also know that water vapor soaks up 25 times as much heat as CO2 ...
So H2O is released into the atmosphere through combustion in much greater quantities then CO2 (courtesy of the larger quantities of hydrogen over carbon within hydrocarbons) and "soaks up 25 times as much heat" (apparently).
Dude, how could the atmosphere not be getting any hotter?
If I remember my high school chemistry correctly, hydrocarbons consist of hydrogen as well as carbon, and in much greater numbers. What do you think happens to all that hydrogen during combustion, hmm?
... do I need to look at the source code to make sure the email was sent?
To be absolutely 100% certain? Yes you do. Just because your mail was sent the last hundred times you hit "Send" is no guarantee it will the next time. Only with access to the actual sources can you have such a guarantee.
Your comment made me laugh ... [rambling nonsense omitted] ...
What makes me laugh is that America still calls itself the "Land of the Free" *snicker* and the "Home of the Brave" *guffaw*. You appear to be neither from over here. I'll probably be modded as flamebait or a troll for this, but really, after reading these types of articles again and again what else are we supposed to think?
I wouldn't care except that I am a citizen of the "Free World" and America styles itself as the "Leader of the Free World". What the fuck is up with that? Maybe we should vote on it; you Americans are okay with voting, right? Even if it means you might lose?
That's what I thought.
Your comment is insightful, but I'd only argue like this if this troubled area was hit by hurricanes more frequently than it currently is.
What, like twice in three years? Methinks your comments may come back to haunt you :-)
Let's play a games called "What if global warming is real and we are heating the atmosphere and causing more frequent and violent hurricanes along tropical and sub-tropical coastal areas regardless of how many millions of honest, god-faring people are living there". The good thing about this game is all we have to do is wait around a few decades to see which one of us is right. You get bonus points if you move to New Orleans (and survive).
Also, earthquakes are seldom seasonal.
Anyone have any insight as to how serious this ACTUALLY is?
How serious? This could potentially render the entire Internet inoperable. For real. Anyone who knows anything about basic Internet protocols should be shitting themselves right about now.
What we have here is a basic weakness in one of the fundamental Internet protocols; an assumption of trust that is no longer valid. Think spam but a million times worse.
I'm not usually one to fall prey to 'Imminent Collapse Of The Internet' hyperbole, but this one has me really worried.
Historically speaking, the societies that have violated basic human hygiene lasted far longer than those that did not. Does that mean we should all stop bathing?
Why this is a troll but the BSD post isn't is beyond me.
Probably because Ubuntu is for lamoes that can't use a fucking computer properly, whereas BSD is actually an old-skool UNIX system that every true geek should honor and revere, even if they wouldn't be seen dead using it.
Although I admit that some judges have been stupid enough to buy it, that argument is bullshit
For what its worth, I agree it SHOULD be bullshit. The trouble is that the courts ARE buying it.
Now is the time to decide if we want to be complacent about such a situation, or outraged.
I've made my decision, how about the rest of you?
which was his entire point.
No, his point was that the "low population density" of the U.S. vs. Asia (laughing now 'cause I'm an Aussie) will give the former an advantage over the latter for wireless internet. It won't, because the actual available bandwidth of the single shared wireless medium is significantly less then that of the multitude of wired and optical media, and always will be.
I mean, do you really expect the nations of Asia to dig up their extensive high speed wide band network infrastructure simply because a newer, sexier technology becomes available? Asians tend to be a little more practical then that.
What do you call your car?
"My car". Duh!
why oh why are people using linkedin for CRM?
Drugs?
It isn't actually a cloud, and saying "cloud" isn't any shorter or clearer than "internet" (in fact less clear).
Dude, there's like a hundred million things in the technical world that are called things that they're not based on nothing more then decades of habit. I mean, is a "bug" really just an insect? Does "bootstrap" really mean a piece of leather attached to a boot? To single out this one example is just splitting hairs.
Okay, so you don't like the term "The Cloud". That's cool, nothing wrong with that, but you have no grounds on which to object it. It is as valid a term as "bug" or "bootstrap" or countless others of which I'm sure the Slashdot community will happy to remind you.
You're assertion that no-one has any business calling the Internet "the cloud" is fundamentally flawed. End of story.
Please don't let anyone get away with calling the internet the cloud!
Traditionally, when network engineers and administrators draw diagrams of networks, they represent the connection to the Internet as a big bumpy object not unlike a child's drawing of a cloud. I have heard old hackers who used to work in the telecommunications industry during the 80's and 70's describe this object as 'the cloud', meaning the Internet.
This term predates the current usage by several decades, and is in fact the source of the current usage
This is a gentle but pedantic reminder that, if you're going to make an absolute assertion, make sure it is the correct assertion.
So the cabling of even a component cable with audio is going to be no more messy (than HDMI). ...as far as prices go. HDMI are just as bad as the rest if you buy from the likes of BestBuy.
Yeah, because having both audio and video in the same, lightweight and easily connected cable is such a dumb idea (You know, like when your parents decided to have children).
The sooner HDMI replaces existing cable solutions, the better. All I need it a Linux box that can actually output digital audio through the video card and I'm set.
Seriously, a HDMI-style cable has been a long time coming. DRM is irrelevant on open systems and all non-open systems will be compromised eventually. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
The U.S. economy continues it's long slide into oblivion as the decision makers at all levels fail to grasp the importance of investing in new technologies and methodologies over simply providing a return on shareholder investment.
You're all fucked. Good night.
I see we're revising history now. Pluto was indeed a planet from roughly the time of its discover until it was reclassified in 2006.
I'll refer you to this post so I don't have to type it out again.
The short version: Pluto was never a 'planet' because, scientifically, there was no such thing as a 'planet' until 2006. Pluto was classified, not reclassified
(The last paragraph of my referred post also applies to you. Just don't let the fact that you're completely and utterly wrong get you down :-)
The reason that "Pluto is not, and never was, a planet" is because a) it does not conform to the current formal definition of a planet and b) there was no previous formal definition of a planet!
There is nothing to prevent the IAU from creating an amended definition for a planet that includes Pluto, but understand that until 2006 the word 'planet' was used as an ad-hoc term that had many possible definitions. Hell, if you want to use the original definition, then only Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and the Sun and the Moon are 'planets'.
Things change. What we call a 'planet' now may not describe a 'planet' in one hundred years time, and something we say is not a 'planet' may in fact be one. To quote one of my favorite authors: "There is insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
On another note, I'm really enjoying taking part in this discussion. Unlike most of the diatribes present in this forum, it seems as though the people involved in this one are really thinking about their positions and delivering (mostly) rational and reasoned arguments. Good on you, guys!