Having run skype for a while now, it seems to have fairly low latency - on the order of about.4 seconds which is far better in my use, which is far better than the 1.5 - 2 seconds of many other VoIP programs I've looked at.
Second the spyware thing - thats Sharman's work. The creators of Kazaa didn't put spyware in - it was free from that crap until they sold it. Lastly, if we're ll so worried about the spyware, get a copy of kazaa lite K++ edition ( http://cache.techtv.com/binaries/2003/klitekpp.zip ) for free and skip the spyware. Sharman might hate you for it but maybe they'll reconsider sticking that marketroid crap into their software.
If you take the software and make it free (as in beer) to the public, then it will be very difficult to regulate, if not impossible. The differences will inevitably show when you interface an unregulated Internet software program with a heavily regulated essential service. Marrying the two technologies to make phone calls to standard POTS phones from the Internet may prove far more difficult than one might think. The cost difference will make VoIP far more viable once high speed has more market and people don't care for their phone service quite so much. I already pay for high speed and if my calls to Australia could be free over the internet, versus $$/minute on the phone company the even a retarded bonobo chimp can see where the smart money won't be spent.
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So? I admit its a serious problem if the information is abused, but there are so many ways around it - the way I choose: I registered through GoDaddy.Com to have them put their info into the registry. I still own the domain and I can modify or transfer it without any problem, but the information in the WHOIS reports GoDaddy. Its a privacy option listed on their page.
- And I don't work for GoDaddy.Com
The Children's Television Network has reported that stocks in the letter "P" have dropped sharply today. Poor software accouting practices appear to be to blame. Officials from the CTN will not comment further siting an ongoing investigation. Some reports site have linked management of Enron and Worldcom to the letter "P"s board of directors.
In related news "Q" and "R" stocks have dropped slightly due to their close relation to "P" but "O" stocks have remained stable, due mostly to its stable position as a vowel...
Well first I PAY to have an Internet connection, I do NOT however, pay for the mail that gets sent to me - thats the mailers responsibility.
Some people pay for the mail that gets sent to them.
I DON'T. Who are these "some people" and why do they buy stamps for junk-mailers? Have you ever really thought about why they call it junk-mail?
Also it seems a bit more personal being intruded upon in your own home, than having something sitting in your physical mailbox outside on the step, or the entryway to your building.
Oh please. You choose to download the spam. Are you intruding upon me in my own home, when I read your slashdot post?
CHOOSE? - You are sadly mistaken. I don't CHOOSE to be spammed - in fact let this be a public decloration that I choose NOT to be spammed.
I have email filters on all of my email accounts to avoid spam. In fact I keep seperate email accounts to intentionally avoid receiving spam. My close friends and family are given an address, which receives NO SPAM (surprise) and I have business email address which received quite a lot of spam plus a general account which receives a ri-damn-diculous amount of spam.
I also avoid software which sells my email address. Example: if I register realplayer, I register it to realplayer@mydomain.com. If I receive email at that address, I delete the alias and uninstall the software. I DO NOT support software which supports spam.
Also your reverse logic is extremely flawed. I did not solicit you to view my slashdot posts. YOU surfed to my post, and replied to it by CHOICE. You choose to view this, I never choose to download spam
Personally I think snail mail is far more wasteful in terms of actual resources, I just don't directly pay for snail-mail and I don't get as much of it and I can recycle it, but the time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous spam emails a day impacts me more directly.
How do you "directly" pay for email spam? The only difference is you happen to get more email spam than snail mail. It takes a lot more time, per piece, to deal with snail mail spam.
First: You need to work on your reading comprehension: the time I spend sifting through spam (and therefore the act of spamming) IMPACTS me more directly. The time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous, illelvant spam emails a day IMPACTS me more directly because I spend a large portion of my day at my computers. You need to understand the argument before you attempt to object to it.
As for paying for spam, it consumes my connection time and bandwidth which are both something I never seem to have enough of, and DIRECTLY pay for. So indirectly I do pay for the spam that gets sent to me.
Also since I work for an ISP, I can confirm the fact that spam costs HUGE industry dollars which could be better spent elsewhere. Junkmailers are almost as cheap as spammers but since their costs are significantly higher, they have to be more selective about their audience and actually do some research or restrict their garbage to geographically relevant targets. Consequently I will always get much less junk-mail, and a tree might be spared.
So you and I are both entitled to our different opinions, and no matter how much we disagree, I will defend your right to be wrong.
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Well first I PAY to have an Internet connection, I do not however, pay for the mail that gets sent to me - thats the mailers responsibility. Also it seems a bit more personal being intruded upon in your own home, than having something sitting in your physical mailbox outside on the step, or the entryway to your building.
Personally I think snail mail is far more wasteful in terms of actual resources, I just don't directly pay for it and I don't get as much of it and I can recycle it, but the time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous spam emails a day impacts me more directly.
Cable (on average) in my city beats DSL hands down. In my home its a 2:1 speed difference in favor of Cable, however I've been in homes where the opposite is true. Its misdirection to say any one solution is better than another all the time - even on average, I'm sure there are some areas of my own city where DSL flat out beats cable, but they are in the miniority.
The headline would be more accurate if it stated something like: Nationally, on average, using the following providers (list of providers), cable was faster than DSL in 15 out of 20 tests 99% of the time. But thats the kind of headline that doesn't get heavily moderated. As always, your mileage will vary.
I work for a Canadian high speed ISP with absolutely no problem with multiple machines. Granted there is no tech support multiple connections for your home network: if you can setup a network then its your job to support it, but as a provider, the customers are not billed more - in fact customers can get a second IP for FREE - encouraging use of multiple connections. After that you pay for add'l IP addresses. Tech support exists right up to the first network connection.
The main criteria that drives internet providers is the customer and if they are happy, they pay their bills it keeps ISPs in business - pissing off the customer only makes things difficult. Bandwidth will always be the primary concern and as long as customers do not exceed the parameters set out in the acceptable use agreement, there is no problem. Remember: the "S" in ISP still stands for SERVICE.
At a MS Windows XP rollout, MS reps gave out copies of Windows XP Pro to every member in attendance. All the CD were stamped with the same information - that a license was required or they where illegal copies. There was something like 250 people in attendance. Instead of a license with the appropriate license serial key, a stickered key was placed on the CD sleve the disks where distributed in.
Surprising? Not really. I hardly think that MS would take themselves to court, but it makes taking others to court for these violations nearly impossible since they themselves are distributing their products in violation of their licensing agreement. Just have to provide evidence that you attended a Microsoft sponsored event where MS products were spiffed.
It may be difficult to get your hands on one though, since the Department of Redundancy Department is interested in acquiring all of them for their amazing water proofing.... And they're water proof!
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Having run skype for a while now, it seems to have fairly low latency - on the order of about .4 seconds which is far better in my use, which is far better than the 1.5 - 2 seconds of many other VoIP programs I've looked at.
Second the spyware thing - thats Sharman's work. The creators of Kazaa didn't put spyware in - it was free from that crap until they sold it. Lastly, if we're ll so worried about the spyware, get a copy of kazaa lite K++ edition ( http://cache.techtv.com/binaries/2003/klitekpp.zip ) for free and skip the spyware. Sharman might hate you for it but maybe they'll reconsider sticking that marketroid crap into their software.
If you take the software and make it free (as in beer) to the public, then it will be very difficult to regulate, if not impossible. The differences will inevitably show when you interface an unregulated Internet software program with a heavily regulated essential service. Marrying the two technologies to make phone calls to standard POTS phones from the Internet may prove far more difficult than one might think. The cost difference will make VoIP far more viable once high speed has more market and people don't care for their phone service quite so much. I already pay for high speed and if my calls to Australia could be free over the internet, versus $$/minute on the phone company the even a retarded bonobo chimp can see where the smart money won't be spent.
OUT
So? I admit its a serious problem if the information is abused, but there are so many ways around it - the way I choose: I registered through GoDaddy.Com to have them put their info into the registry. I still own the domain and I can modify or transfer it without any problem, but the information in the WHOIS reports GoDaddy. Its a privacy option listed on their page. - And I don't work for GoDaddy.Com
The Children's Television Network has reported that stocks in the letter "P" have dropped sharply today. Poor software accouting practices appear to be to blame. Officials from the CTN will not comment further siting an ongoing investigation. Some reports site have linked management of Enron and Worldcom to the letter "P"s board of directors.
In related news "Q" and "R" stocks have dropped slightly due to their close relation to "P" but "O" stocks have remained stable, due mostly to its stable position as a vowel...
Well first I PAY to have an Internet connection, I do NOT however, pay for the mail that gets sent to me - thats the mailers responsibility.
Some people pay for the mail that gets sent to them.
I DON'T. Who are these "some people" and why do they buy stamps for junk-mailers? Have you ever really thought about why they call it junk-mail?
Also it seems a bit more personal being intruded upon in your own home, than having something sitting in your physical mailbox outside on the step, or the entryway to your building.
Oh please. You choose to download the spam. Are you intruding upon me in my own home, when I read your slashdot post?
CHOOSE? - You are sadly mistaken. I don't CHOOSE to be spammed - in fact let this be a public decloration that I choose NOT to be spammed.
I have email filters on all of my email accounts to avoid spam. In fact I keep seperate email accounts to intentionally avoid receiving spam. My close friends and family are given an address, which receives NO SPAM (surprise) and I have business email address which received quite a lot of spam plus a general account which receives a ri-damn-diculous amount of spam.
I also avoid software which sells my email address. Example: if I register realplayer, I register it to realplayer@mydomain.com. If I receive email at that address, I delete the alias and uninstall the software. I DO NOT support software which supports spam.
Also your reverse logic is extremely flawed. I did not solicit you to view my slashdot posts. YOU surfed to my post, and replied to it by CHOICE. You choose to view this, I never choose to download spam
Personally I think snail mail is far more wasteful in terms of actual resources, I just don't directly pay for snail-mail and I don't get as much of it and I can recycle it, but the time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous spam emails a day impacts me more directly.
How do you "directly" pay for email spam? The only difference is you happen to get more email spam than snail mail. It takes a lot more time, per piece, to deal with snail mail spam.
First: You need to work on your reading comprehension: the time I spend sifting through spam (and therefore the act of spamming) IMPACTS me more directly. The time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous, illelvant spam emails a day IMPACTS me more directly because I spend a large portion of my day at my computers. You need to understand the argument before you attempt to object to it.
As for paying for spam, it consumes my connection time and bandwidth which are both something I never seem to have enough of, and DIRECTLY pay for. So indirectly I do pay for the spam that gets sent to me.
Also since I work for an ISP, I can confirm the fact that spam costs HUGE industry dollars which could be better spent elsewhere. Junkmailers are almost as cheap as spammers but since their costs are significantly higher, they have to be more selective about their audience and actually do some research or restrict their garbage to geographically relevant targets. Consequently I will always get much less junk-mail, and a tree might be spared.
So you and I are both entitled to our different opinions, and no matter how much we disagree, I will defend your right to be wrong.
> Well first I PAY to have an Internet connection, I do not however, pay for the mail that gets sent to me - thats the mailers responsibility. Also it seems a bit more personal being intruded upon in your own home, than having something sitting in your physical mailbox outside on the step, or the entryway to your building. Personally I think snail mail is far more wasteful in terms of actual resources, I just don't directly pay for it and I don't get as much of it and I can recycle it, but the time I spend sifting through hundreds of ridiculous spam emails a day impacts me more directly.
Cable (on average) in my city beats DSL hands down. In my home its a 2:1 speed difference in favor of Cable, however I've been in homes where the opposite is true. Its misdirection to say any one solution is better than another all the time - even on average, I'm sure there are some areas of my own city where DSL flat out beats cable, but they are in the miniority.
The headline would be more accurate if it stated something like: Nationally, on average, using the following providers (list of providers), cable was faster than DSL in 15 out of 20 tests 99% of the time. But thats the kind of headline that doesn't get heavily moderated. As always, your mileage will vary.
I work for a Canadian high speed ISP with absolutely no problem with multiple machines. Granted there is no tech support multiple connections for your home network: if you can setup a network then its your job to support it, but as a provider, the customers are not billed more - in fact customers can get a second IP for FREE - encouraging use of multiple connections. After that you pay for add'l IP addresses. Tech support exists right up to the first network connection. The main criteria that drives internet providers is the customer and if they are happy, they pay their bills it keeps ISPs in business - pissing off the customer only makes things difficult. Bandwidth will always be the primary concern and as long as customers do not exceed the parameters set out in the acceptable use agreement, there is no problem. Remember: the "S" in ISP still stands for SERVICE.
At a MS Windows XP rollout, MS reps gave out copies of Windows XP Pro to every member in attendance. All the CD were stamped with the same information - that a license was required or they where illegal copies. There was something like 250 people in attendance. Instead of a license with the appropriate license serial key, a stickered key was placed on the CD sleve the disks where distributed in. Surprising? Not really. I hardly think that MS would take themselves to court, but it makes taking others to court for these violations nearly impossible since they themselves are distributing their products in violation of their licensing agreement. Just have to provide evidence that you attended a Microsoft sponsored event where MS products were spiffed.
It may be difficult to get your hands on one though, since the Department of Redundancy Department is interested in acquiring all of them for their amazing water proofing. ... And they're water proof!
"...Production Problems..." Maybe Nvidia should check their caps...