As far as a "production environment", worked on Data General Nova's with 16k of core, a teletype and paper tape for bootstrapping it. That would have been '77-'79 while in the USAF (Offutt AFB). We also built our own flip flops out of components while in tech school (Keesler AFB). Prior to that, I did get to work on helping build an Altair kit when I was in high school.
The point of requiring creds is not to give a fine-grained measure of quality, but to provide a way of filtering out Bob from Marketing/Website Design who this morning decides he wants to be hired for a C++ solution architect role with no experience, so he can see what it's like....
If I finish interviewing Bob, and haven't been able to figure that out for myself, then I'm not doing a good job of interviewing.
If they don't have an engineering education, than they are not engineers.
A degree doesn't make you an engineer. I've never seen that as part of the definition. Yes, education is needed, that doesn't have to come through college.
Unfortunately, many of those are useless pieces of crap, and the only reason many people get them is because of rules like 8570, which has turned into welfare for these cert companies. Follow the money...they're getting rich, and a lot of it is off of taxpayer dollars.
We give our HR folks the questions that we expect them to filter on. Certs have never been in that list. However, our job postings typically list certs under the desirable category, sometimes with a comment about an expectation for the candidate to have or be able to get the cert within a specific timeframe.
Outside of IT you will almost never see certificates except in technician jobs
Interesting. A relative of mine has two MBAs, and was a business acquisition director at a Fortune 500 company before taking an easier position to work on a Ph.D. She had these in here resume. Maybe YMMV? Project Management Professional Certified Training Manager/Director Certified Instructor/Facilitator Certified Performance Consultant Certified Instructional Designer/Developer Certified e-Learning Specialist ITIL Foundations Certified
I've known plenty of developers without 4 yr degrees who were better engineers that some of the code monkeys coming out of school. If someone can show they've got the experience/knowledge to do the job, I could give a shit if they have a 4 yr degree.
When I read tens of millions, my first thought was "chump change among billions", but the summary is wrong. Here's the text from the actual article: If the GAO is correct, then the military could have gotten that same service for about $45 billion less.
Total waste of time. They only pay attention to the ones they want to, and from what I saw a couple weeks back, about half of the petitions would be unconstitutional. I think there was only one petition that was close to getting the minimum required votes. More people would play if the govt. was actually giving half a shit about this.
I don't disagree, and as I've stated elsewhere in this, I don't have a lot of of respect for that field. My response was focused upon the claim that Gitmo could be replaced in the U.S. with things like this, and I'll continue to disagree since those forms of interrogation would not be allowed (for several reasons) within U.S. borders.
As for ECT, I don't know much (I saw some articles with anecdotal evidence), but just because it looks like torture, doesn't make it so. The Mayo clinic seems to think it's a valid treatment for some issues... http://www.mayoclinic.org/test...
So, if I understand you correctly, you're okay with the idea of people who are a clear danger to others being free until they've actually done that harm. Them able to purchase weapons and drive (28 people are killed every day in the U.S. by drunks).
I'm very much a freedom loving person. But I draw the line when you've become a threat to others, because now you're infringing upon their freedom.
Most people have not been "pick pocketed, mugged, or robbed by police^H^H^H^H^H^H "highway men" in their entire lifetimes. While millions, like myself, have been screwed by things like the Target debacle. It was the one fucking time I'd been to Target in several years. Ditto on the debit cards...I'll never have one.
I've I'm in a restaurant, I can still hand over cash and walk out. What are you going to do with all the customers waiting to leave who don't have cash?
Okay, I understand your concern with the psych community. I have extremely little respect for that profession.
I don't know what the right answer is, but I think what we're doing now isn't working. We have mentally ill, and alcoholic (my own brother-in-law) who we can do little about, walking the streets, driving, able to buy guns, etc. The law can apparently do little for them until they have actually committed a crime. I know my brother-in-law has had several accidents, and lost his licence previously, and it's a miracle that he hasn't killed someone. But, there's nothing we can do to force him into any kind of treatment.
I don't see it that far fetched that US government could classify fanatical suicide terrorism as mental illness in 2025 let's say. And then you don't need Guantanamo anymore - there is enough torture-like devices in hospitals to make life uncomfortable for people.
Um, no. Trained interrogators don't get to work in hospitals, and doctors would be breaking their oath to do no harm.
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As far as a "production environment", worked on Data General Nova's with 16k of core, a teletype and paper tape for bootstrapping it. That would have been '77-'79 while in the USAF (Offutt AFB). We also built our own flip flops out of components while in tech school (Keesler AFB). Prior to that, I did get to work on helping build an Altair kit when I was in high school.
The point of requiring creds is not to give a fine-grained measure of quality, but to provide a way of filtering out Bob from Marketing/Website Design who this morning decides he wants to be hired for a C++ solution architect role with no experience, so he can see what it's like....
If I finish interviewing Bob, and haven't been able to figure that out for myself, then I'm not doing a good job of interviewing.
If they don't have an engineering education, than they are not engineers.
A degree doesn't make you an engineer. I've never seen that as part of the definition. Yes, education is needed, that doesn't have to come through college.
Unfortunately, many of those are useless pieces of crap, and the only reason many people get them is because of rules like 8570, which has turned into welfare for these cert companies. Follow the money...they're getting rich, and a lot of it is off of taxpayer dollars.
We give our HR folks the questions that we expect them to filter on. Certs have never been in that list. However, our job postings typically list certs under the desirable category, sometimes with a comment about an expectation for the candidate to have or be able to get the cert within a specific timeframe.
Outside of IT you will almost never see certificates except in technician jobs
Interesting. A relative of mine has two MBAs, and was a business acquisition director at a Fortune 500 company before taking an easier position to work on a Ph.D. She had these in here resume. Maybe YMMV?
Project Management Professional
Certified Training Manager/Director
Certified Instructor/Facilitator
Certified Performance Consultant
Certified Instructional Designer/Developer
Certified e-Learning Specialist
ITIL Foundations Certified
I've known plenty of developers without 4 yr degrees who were better engineers that some of the code monkeys coming out of school. If someone can show they've got the experience/knowledge to do the job, I could give a shit if they have a 4 yr degree.
You hired programmers who didn't know what an array was? You might want to consider revamping your interview process.
I'm sure that they corrected the article to show M instead of B now. I'd copy/pasted the original text in an earlier post above.
Long story short...let's not waste more time quibbling over M when B are being wasted.
They corrected the article. My post above was a copy/paste directly from the original text.
Then they just corrected it.
"You get those breaks as a single parent too."
As a former single parent, I was able to claim "Head of Household"...more than just a single with a dependent.
Please release the data! I'm getting my popcorn ready to see the sparks fly, and who's getting divorced, or dropping out of the presidential race.
Summary is wrong...it's $45B not M.
No, it's $45 Billion... With a B, according to the actual article.
When I read tens of millions, my first thought was "chump change among billions", but the summary is wrong. Here's the text from the actual article:
If the GAO is correct, then the military could have gotten that same service for about $45 billion less.
So, you don't watch movies? See, there's this thing called product placement.
"Yes explains why Donald Trump gets any press at all."
People want to watch train wrecks. People gawk at auto accidents. People want drama, or the Kardasians would actually have to work for a living.
Total waste of time. They only pay attention to the ones they want to, and from what I saw a couple weeks back, about half of the petitions would be unconstitutional. I think there was only one petition that was close to getting the minimum required votes. More people would play if the govt. was actually giving half a shit about this.
I don't disagree, and as I've stated elsewhere in this, I don't have a lot of of respect for that field. My response was focused upon the claim that Gitmo could be replaced in the U.S. with things like this, and I'll continue to disagree since those forms of interrogation would not be allowed (for several reasons) within U.S. borders.
As for ECT, I don't know much (I saw some articles with anecdotal evidence), but just because it looks like torture, doesn't make it so. The Mayo clinic seems to think it's a valid treatment for some issues...
http://www.mayoclinic.org/test...
So, if I understand you correctly, you're okay with the idea of people who are a clear danger to others being free until they've actually done that harm. Them able to purchase weapons and drive (28 people are killed every day in the U.S. by drunks).
I'm very much a freedom loving person. But I draw the line when you've become a threat to others, because now you're infringing upon their freedom.
Most people have not been "pick pocketed, mugged, or robbed by police^H^H^H^H^H^H "highway men" in their entire lifetimes. While millions, like myself, have been screwed by things like the Target debacle. It was the one fucking time I'd been to Target in several years. Ditto on the debit cards...I'll never have one.
Right, because that happens all the time. And, yes, I know it has happened...but only about as frequently as an AC posting something insightful.
I've I'm in a restaurant, I can still hand over cash and walk out. What are you going to do with all the customers waiting to leave who don't have cash?
Okay, I understand your concern with the psych community. I have extremely little respect for that profession.
I don't know what the right answer is, but I think what we're doing now isn't working. We have mentally ill, and alcoholic (my own brother-in-law) who we can do little about, walking the streets, driving, able to buy guns, etc. The law can apparently do little for them until they have actually committed a crime. I know my brother-in-law has had several accidents, and lost his licence previously, and it's a miracle that he hasn't killed someone. But, there's nothing we can do to force him into any kind of treatment.
I don't see it that far fetched that US government could classify fanatical suicide terrorism as mental illness in 2025 let's say. And then you don't need Guantanamo anymore - there is enough torture-like devices in hospitals to make life uncomfortable for people.
Um, no. Trained interrogators don't get to work in hospitals, and doctors would be breaking their oath to do no harm.