I may not agree with Monsanto's labeling, but I do agree that they should be allowed to sue over it. They are directly impacted by the chance, so why should they not be allowed to fight it?
Many companies do this kind of thing, which leads me to a question for you. Are you sure there wasn't a separate tier, one that not every employee got cards for? My own company does this to us...we outsourced our IT a few years back, and now if you call and tell them you're from a certain location, you get your hand held, and a blow job, while your machine is fixed.
Claims are that it didn't source physically in NK. It's not the first time (making an assumption here that it actually was them) they've done shit outside of their actual boarders.
There isnt a shred of evidence tying the DPRK to this hacking and yet they get all the blame.
Incorrect, but I will agree that what's been provided is not conclusive, and weak. And, I stopped trusting the government commentary long before WMD were claimed to exist in Iraq. I ***hope*** that they're basing their findings on more than just this. But I also know that evidence can't always be made public because it can reveal sources of intelligence, and make them unusable. So, who should we believe, a clearly evil dictator, or a federal agency that for the most part has a pretty good track record. Well, short of us declaring war, I think I'll go with the feds...thanks for playing.
Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.
Wikipedia: Estimates of the death toll vary widely. Out of a total population of approximately 22 million, somewhere between 240,000 and 3,500,000 North Koreans died from starvation or hunger-related illnesses, with the deaths peaking in 1997.
The International Coalition to Stop Crimes Against Humanity in North Korea (ICNK) estimates that over 10,000 people die in North Korean prison camps every year
North Korean defectors have provided detailed testimonies on the existence of the total control zones where abuses such as torture, starvation, rape, murder, medical experimentation, forced labor, and forced abortions have been reported.
It's not a like-or-hate choice. We might think the U.S.A. is arrogant and still count them as friendly.
And, while our actions as a nation frequently are arrogant, we end up being expected to take action around the globe simply because nobody else is willing and able. I would personally prefer the "walk softly, and carry a big stick" approach. It seems similar to the issues the US is going through with police right now...many see them as overreaching, and overreacting, but we sure don't want to be without them.
Um, because there was a significant financial impact, as well as impact on many employees...would you like to be a Sony employee right now? Not to mention, the "9/11 style" threat. And, while we're all pretty sure that threat is BS, it wouldn't take much to actually do something serious.
Oh, and what the fuck are you talking about? There's no comparison between federal agency spying (as done by all countries), and attacking an industry in another country, and making threats against civilians.
"The US" is not a monolith. It doesn't have one voice, and one opinion. People speak out both for and against this movie, flag burning as free speech, and a variety of other issues.
So, while I'm here, I'll just give my own $.02 on the movie. I think it's a mean and stupid thing to make a movie about killing someone, anyone, including an evil dictator. And while I'm a strong proponent of the freedom of speech, that freedom stops at the point where it impacts the freedom of others.
Well, now you're just replying as if I had implied the opposite to an obvious portion of the rant, rather than the assumption, which was clearly my point. And, just in case it wasn't obvious to you, the assumption portion I'm referring to is "It might make you feel safer to have one as well, but it doesn't actually MAKE you any safer." No go back under your rock.
You've obviously never experienced a situation where you'd actually need to defend yourself. I've lived in areas where I've had shots fired in the apartment upstairs in one instance, a TV stolen from our house in another, and a multitude of crime in the area. If you think it's irrational, then you're an idiot.
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"both sides of the story" doesn't imply that it wasn't an Op Ed. Are you trying to be funny, or just unfamiliar with the phrase?
I'll be happy to match your ex-Bush list one for one with someone from the Clinton or Obama groups. Don't pretend it's a one party issue.
Wouldn't "we the people" have standing?
I may not agree with Monsanto's labeling, but I do agree that they should be allowed to sue over it. They are directly impacted by the chance, so why should they not be allowed to fight it?
Many companies do this kind of thing, which leads me to a question for you. Are you sure there wasn't a separate tier, one that not every employee got cards for? My own company does this to us...we outsourced our IT a few years back, and now if you call and tell them you're from a certain location, you get your hand held, and a blow job, while your machine is fixed.
Claims are that it didn't source physically in NK. It's not the first time (making an assumption here that it actually was them) they've done shit outside of their actual boarders.
Really? Who runs the "US Propaganda machine"? You've been watching too much Wizard of Oz, and there's nobody behind your imaginary curtain.
Heard of this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
There isnt a shred of evidence tying the DPRK to this hacking and yet they get all the blame.
Incorrect, but I will agree that what's been provided is not conclusive, and weak. And, I stopped trusting the government commentary long before WMD were claimed to exist in Iraq. I ***hope*** that they're basing their findings on more than just this. But I also know that evidence can't always be made public because it can reveal sources of intelligence, and make them unusable. So, who should we believe, a clearly evil dictator, or a federal agency that for the most part has a pretty good track record. Well, short of us declaring war, I think I'll go with the feds...thanks for playing.
Technical analysis of the data deletion malware used in this attack revealed links to other malware that the FBI knows North Korean actors previously developed. For example, there were similarities in specific lines of code, encryption algorithms, data deletion methods, and compromised networks.
The FBI also observed significant overlap between the infrastructure used in this attack and other malicious cyber activity the U.S. government has previously linked directly to North Korea. For example, the FBI discovered that several Internet protocol (IP) addresses associated with known North Korean infrastructure communicated with IP addresses that were hardcoded into the data deletion malware used in this attack.
Separately, the tools used in the SPE attack have similarities to a cyber attack in March of last year against South Korean banks and media outlets, which was carried out by North Korea.
You have nothing to base your supposition on, other than pure speculation.
Um, they did. We're over it.
I see you're from Europe.
Yeah, this is funny, right?
Wikipedia:
Estimates of the death toll vary widely. Out of a total population of approximately 22 million, somewhere between 240,000 and 3,500,000 North Koreans died from starvation or hunger-related illnesses, with the deaths peaking in 1997.
The International Coalition to Stop Crimes Against Humanity in North Korea (ICNK) estimates that over 10,000 people die in North Korean prison camps every year
North Korean defectors have provided detailed testimonies on the existence of the total control zones where abuses such as torture, starvation, rape, murder, medical experimentation, forced labor, and forced abortions have been reported.
It's not a like-or-hate choice. We might think the U.S.A. is arrogant and still count them as friendly.
And, while our actions as a nation frequently are arrogant, we end up being expected to take action around the globe simply because nobody else is willing and able. I would personally prefer the "walk softly, and carry a big stick" approach. It seems similar to the issues the US is going through with police right now...many see them as overreaching, and overreacting, but we sure don't want to be without them.
The proper form of address to people using either term is "ass hat."
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"Both sides are as bad as each other"???
Seriously? Go learn something about DPRK before you speak out of your ass again. There is no comparison.
Um, because there was a significant financial impact, as well as impact on many employees...would you like to be a Sony employee right now? Not to mention, the "9/11 style" threat. And, while we're all pretty sure that threat is BS, it wouldn't take much to actually do something serious.
Oh, and what the fuck are you talking about? There's no comparison between federal agency spying (as done by all countries), and attacking an industry in another country, and making threats against civilians.
Really? Where do you get this? Do you have any credible source?
"The US" is not a monolith. It doesn't have one voice, and one opinion. People speak out both for and against this movie, flag burning as free speech, and a variety of other issues.
So, while I'm here, I'll just give my own $.02 on the movie. I think it's a mean and stupid thing to make a movie about killing someone, anyone, including an evil dictator. And while I'm a strong proponent of the freedom of speech, that freedom stops at the point where it impacts the freedom of others.
Inciting a riot != freedom of speech.
Well, now you're just replying as if I had implied the opposite to an obvious portion of the rant, rather than the assumption, which was clearly my point. And, just in case it wasn't obvious to you, the assumption portion I'm referring to is "It might make you feel safer to have one as well, but it doesn't actually MAKE you any safer." No go back under your rock.
The insurance company would win that battle in court.
Welcome to Detroit.
You've obviously never experienced a situation where you'd actually need to defend yourself. I've lived in areas where I've had shots fired in the apartment upstairs in one instance, a TV stolen from our house in another, and a multitude of crime in the area. If you think it's irrational, then you're an idiot.
Your assumptions are not backed up by the facts.