I work in a lot of areas where I have to punch in codes to get in a door, or codes for conference calls. If you asked me the number, I'd have to punch it out to tell you the actual numbers.
Except that it's not a good analogy. When you're in class and your BFF Skypes you, or sends a chat message, are you going to ignore it? The correct answer should be yes, but we all know how rarely that would actually happen because this generation can't hold an in person conversation w/o answering their cell phone when it buzzes. They think they're multi-tasking, but it's simply rude and distracted. Yes, I know, I'm an old fart, so get the hell off my lawn.
While your point is well taken, I would suggest that a study of the most successful graduates (we'd need to quantify this somehow) should be done, say 10-20 years after graduation. Identify groups who spent more time socializing than studying, and those who were bookworms, then see how they progressed over time. Just saying...I've seen a lot of successful people who weren't the brightest bulbs, and a lot of rocket scientists who didn't get that far ahead financially.
Not advocating any animal abuse, but how many of these horses would even exist if there was no demand from racing, or other "commanded by people" activities? I suspect that they'd be on the endangered species list without a lot of free space for wild horses.
From a legal viewpoint, I don't believe that all this talk of monopoly matters one iota unless the organization has been legally declared one in a court of law. IANAL, so maybe someone can confirm/deny that.
Gay doesn't equate to pedophile. Say that again: Gay doesn't imply Pedophile.
So, back to the parents question regarding allowing straight males to sleep in tents with young females, then the same rule should apply. But it doesn't.
I've seen the wiki chart, and the study covered a specific period of time. 2006 wasn't a particularly good economic time in the U.S. You can cherry pick dates and data, or you can show it over a range of history.
Not so strangely, our neighbor to the north's economy has been doing much better than ours for many reasons. It wasn't always the case, even just a decade or two ago, and it won't always be the case. So, is this really a discussion about our economy or "upward mobility"?
For the same reason that the media loves to use the word pandemic at every opportunity. How many people actually died from SARs or Bird Flu? Compare that to how many die on the highway every single day. Scare people, and they'll always come back to hear more.
Your comment reminded me of the time we had an MIT grad come into my bosses office, and ask why he should work here. My boss politely responded that he shouldn't and that the interview was complete. I don't know if the individual was a minority, or if they were qualified for the position, but if the answer to both of those were yes, could we have been in a similar situation with a suit against us?
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of the current implementation of H1B, and believe they're abused severely. So, I'm interested to see the details of this case, and how it progresses.
My kid, who just graduated with a business degree, and zero programming experience, picked up a book last week, and already has a nice web page (mostly done the same day) up...no help from anyone. Is it suitable for a business?...no, but it's not far off. Which of those tools do you consider difficult to learn? Sure, to get good at it, takes time, but the basics of all of those are fairly simple.
Yes, the burden of "proof" is on the plaintiff, however that burden is only to show that the "Preponderance of evidence" is enough that the defendant likely did what was claimed. In other words, was it more than 50%, which is one of the crappy things that can happen to you if you get sued. You could be completely innocent, and yet because the odds were most likely against your position, you get screwed.
Disclaimer, IANAL, and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.
As a disclaimer, let me say that I agree with your commentary. That said, from a business position, there is no "evil", only legal or illegal. If it's not illegal, and it can improve profits, you can be sure that business is going to do it. The rare exceptions are when they realize that bad PR will hurt them enough.
I don't know how they're doing today, though I would expect that unskilled labor would pay at or near minimum wage. What minimum wage should be is another topic, and should be related to local cost of living, and other factors.
As for full-time jobs at the poverty line, I'd argue that we should have at least two tiers of jobs. One would include kids who have summer jobs...remember when flipping burgers wasn't expected to pay a living wage?...now there's a strike on against McDonalds over this. And the other is where I'd generally be in agreement with your comment.
Not gonna bite on the police comment...we could go on for a long time there.
Is that why we see a half dozen commercials for ambulance chasers on every public TV broadcast? Seriously? Between them and the insurance companies, I think about a quarter of them belong in jail.
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I work in a lot of areas where I have to punch in codes to get in a door, or codes for conference calls. If you asked me the number, I'd have to punch it out to tell you the actual numbers.
Except that it's not a good analogy. When you're in class and your BFF Skypes you, or sends a chat message, are you going to ignore it? The correct answer should be yes, but we all know how rarely that would actually happen because this generation can't hold an in person conversation w/o answering their cell phone when it buzzes. They think they're multi-tasking, but it's simply rude and distracted. Yes, I know, I'm an old fart, so get the hell off my lawn.
While your point is well taken, I would suggest that a study of the most successful graduates (we'd need to quantify this somehow) should be done, say 10-20 years after graduation. Identify groups who spent more time socializing than studying, and those who were bookworms, then see how they progressed over time. Just saying...I've seen a lot of successful people who weren't the brightest bulbs, and a lot of rocket scientists who didn't get that far ahead financially.
Willllllbur! Is that you?
Not advocating any animal abuse, but how many of these horses would even exist if there was no demand from racing, or other "commanded by people" activities? I suspect that they'd be on the endangered species list without a lot of free space for wild horses.
For anyone to state with a straight face that there are enforceable anti-monopoly laws in 2013 America needs to blah, blah, blah...
Yeah, you're right
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2013/08/13/justice-american-us-airways/2647545/
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/06/21/apple-ebook-antitrust-summations-2/
http://www.vedderprice.com/US-Supreme-Court-Decides-Pay-for-Delay-Patent-Antitrust-Case-Briefed-by-Vedder-Price-2013-06-18/
From a legal viewpoint, I don't believe that all this talk of monopoly matters one iota unless the organization has been legally declared one in a court of law. IANAL, so maybe someone can confirm/deny that.
Gay doesn't equate to pedophile. Say that again: Gay doesn't imply Pedophile.
So, back to the parents question regarding allowing straight males to sleep in tents with young females, then the same rule should apply. But it doesn't.
Yeah, and the plural of wiseass isn't genius.
I've seen the wiki chart, and the study covered a specific period of time. 2006 wasn't a particularly good economic time in the U.S. You can cherry pick dates and data, or you can show it over a range of history.
Not so strangely, our neighbor to the north's economy has been doing much better than ours for many reasons. It wasn't always the case, even just a decade or two ago, and it won't always be the case. So, is this really a discussion about our economy or "upward mobility"?
Not even close, but the movie did suck. Worst Damon movie I've seen.
Maybe just put all the baddies into space...remember Australia? Isn't this just the reverse of the movie's premise?
Can you quantify "low upwards mobility"? I can give you lots of examples that dispute your point if you're saying what I think you're saying.
Ask the Taliban
Glad I read this before I posted....I have the same concern.
Thanks for quoting the definition...sheesh. The fact of the matter is that it still puts fear into the masses, which is the point of my post.
Funniest thing I've read on /. in months. Bravo Sir!
For the same reason that the media loves to use the word pandemic at every opportunity. How many people actually died from SARs or Bird Flu? Compare that to how many die on the highway every single day. Scare people, and they'll always come back to hear more.
Because there's also no requirement to speak Vietnamese in the workplace, and requiring that would be illegal.
Your comment reminded me of the time we had an MIT grad come into my bosses office, and ask why he should work here. My boss politely responded that he shouldn't and that the interview was complete. I don't know if the individual was a minority, or if they were qualified for the position, but if the answer to both of those were yes, could we have been in a similar situation with a suit against us?
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of the current implementation of H1B, and believe they're abused severely. So, I'm interested to see the details of this case, and how it progresses.
**cough** Bullshit **cough**
My kid, who just graduated with a business degree, and zero programming experience, picked up a book last week, and already has a nice web page (mostly done the same day) up...no help from anyone. Is it suitable for a business?...no, but it's not far off. Which of those tools do you consider difficult to learn? Sure, to get good at it, takes time, but the basics of all of those are fairly simple.
Yes, the burden of "proof" is on the plaintiff, however that burden is only to show that the "Preponderance of evidence" is enough that the defendant likely did what was claimed. In other words, was it more than 50%, which is one of the crappy things that can happen to you if you get sued. You could be completely innocent, and yet because the odds were most likely against your position, you get screwed.
Disclaimer, IANAL, and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.
As a disclaimer, let me say that I agree with your commentary. That said, from a business position, there is no "evil", only legal or illegal. If it's not illegal, and it can improve profits, you can be sure that business is going to do it. The rare exceptions are when they realize that bad PR will hurt them enough.
I don't know how they're doing today, though I would expect that unskilled labor would pay at or near minimum wage. What minimum wage should be is another topic, and should be related to local cost of living, and other factors.
As for full-time jobs at the poverty line, I'd argue that we should have at least two tiers of jobs. One would include kids who have summer jobs...remember when flipping burgers wasn't expected to pay a living wage?...now there's a strike on against McDonalds over this. And the other is where I'd generally be in agreement with your comment.
Not gonna bite on the police comment...we could go on for a long time there.
Your flasher has fluid? I missed that option on my new car.
Is that why we see a half dozen commercials for ambulance chasers on every public TV broadcast? Seriously? Between them and the insurance companies, I think about a quarter of them belong in jail.