Depends what part of the country they're in. The problems are mostly in certain regions. The regions being patrolled by US Marines aren't having many problems either, and it's safe to say the Marines aren't better at handling situations diplomatically than US Army troops.
WTF? The three main races in Niven's Known Universe are humans, puppeteers, and kzin. Omnivorous primates, herbivorous herd animals, and carnivorous felines. Evolution dictates how they behave. Puppeteers are cautious because they're intelligent *sheep*.
Maybe I'm not understanding what the parent to my comment was saying when he says "I don't see any of those countries demanding to be treated as The Owners Of The Earth, or randomly attacking the rest of the world". Since I'm pretty sure that the US nuking someone recently would be in the papers, I assumed that he was talking about attacking with conventional weapons.
Having nukes means you can roll the tanks into any country that doesn't have nukes (like Chechnya, Tibet, or Afghanistan) and there isn't diddley squat they, or anyone else, can really do about it.
You're referring to the half-second of film that made her a major celebrity? And by saying that she didn't know they were doing it, she comes out not looking like a slut?
Actually, Osama started hating the US because the Saudi govt let the US put bases and troops in their country when Iraq invaded Kuwait. He felt that Saudis were perfectly capable of defending their own country.
In retrospect, it would have been interesting to see how an Iraqi invasion of SA would have gone.
I think you're referring to the $60 million in food aid sent there by a UN related NGO. This was addressed in a previous thread, and the conclusion reached in that thread was that whoever continues to spread this FUD is a mindless troll incapable of rational thought.
The Taliban wasn't recognized by any country as the legitimate leaders of Afghanistan by any nation except, I believe, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Oman (or Yemen?). After 9/11 Pakistan and SA ceased recognizing them. You may as well argue that the Mafia is the legitimate ruler of Sicily.
Yes it is. Don't think Saddam and his secret police are going to be killing many more people. You also forget the tens of thousands of dead Kurds, the hundreds of thousands that died because of sanctions, and the millions in the Iran-Iraq war.
I suppose we shouldn't have landed in Normandy on D-Day because some French civilians could have gotten hurt.
You can quite legitimately complain about how or why the war was conducted, but you can't deny that in the not-so-very long run it saved innocent lives.
So, according to you, nobody should have invested money in the United States from, say, 1955 through 1990? MAD worked for US/USSR; it'll work for Pakistan/India. In a few years NK will have missiles that can hit California. Guess people should stop investing in companies on the west coast.
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Creating jobs in countries where 25% of the population is starving to death is not ethical? I think you need to fine-tune your argument a little, man.
Hitler was elected to power in an election: A) True or B) False.
Actually, I'm not worried about the US becoming a tyranny, precisely because there are so many gun nuts in this country. BTW, I don't own a gun, have never owned a gun, and never plan on owning a gun.
They weren't willing to submit to occupation by Allied troops. The military was not willing to give up control of the country until the Emperor told them to, after Nagasaki. Even then, some of them plotted to fight on. After the Emperor recorded his speech to the Japanese people, telling them to lay down their arms and accept surrender, about a thousand renegade Japanese troops occupied the Emperor's palace grounds and held the Emperor captive. They tried (but failed) to get support of the general in charge of the Army district around Tokyo; if they'd got his support the surrender would not have been broadcast. If *that* had happened, Tokyo would have been nuked a few days later.
And if you think ending the war without occupation, and leaving those military leaders in charge of Japan would be an acceptable ending, you're nuts.
So would you also think that a million unarmed Chinese marching in Tianamen Square can accomplish the same thing that a million armed Chinese can? How about a million unarmed Jews marching in Berlin in 1943? Since you're European, if you think that democracies can't become tyrannies, you're either old with a bad memory or young with bad history teachers.
The 2nd amendment doesn't exist so people can overthrow the govt, it exists so the people can take it back if it's taken from them. America's got by far the strongest military in the world. Who in the hell will liberate America if it moves towards tyranny? You all should be *glad* the US has the 2nd Amendment.
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Yes, because there are plenty of Al-Queda members that are multi-frickin-millionairs.
I'm not really scared of someone half a world away if they're only making $20 a year.
And before you spout mindless nonsense about the EU not being our enemy, I seem to recall several nations hostile to the US having Mirages in their arsenal. Why should the DoD trust the French to not be whores?
I knew some guys who worked at Lockheed near Fort Worth; evidently once some guy was goofing around on the production line and was sitting in a seat and did an ejection straight into the roof of the building.
Learn some history beyond what your hippie teacher taught you in 10th grade. Maybe start with "Downfall".
The Japanese were trying to get the Soviets to intervene, for essentially a truce, with the psycho nutjobs running Japan staying in power. We knew what their intentions at the time were; we'd broken their diplomatic codes. We *knew* the Japanese weren't willing to surrender in a manner acceptable to the Allies.
Days after Hiroshima the Japanese were still moving troops and equipment south to prepare for the American invasion. Renegade officers (the "young tigers" actually occupied the Imperial grounds and held the Emperor hostage to keep him from surrendering.
Face it. People are selfish and self-centered. That's why capitalism and democracy work. And as far as those starving children are concerned, it's usually because their leaders are, well, selfish and self-centered, and about the only way that'll be changed is through military force. And we all know how you feel about *that*.
Wasn't it just two or three years ago that the left was wailing and gnashing their teeth over the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children dying because of the sanctions?
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Depends what part of the country they're in. The problems are mostly in certain regions. The regions being patrolled by US Marines aren't having many problems either, and it's safe to say the Marines aren't better at handling situations diplomatically than US Army troops.
WTF? The three main races in Niven's Known Universe are humans, puppeteers, and kzin. Omnivorous primates, herbivorous herd animals, and carnivorous felines. Evolution dictates how they behave. Puppeteers are cautious because they're intelligent *sheep*.
Maybe I'm not understanding what the parent to my comment was saying when he says "I don't see any of those countries demanding to be treated as The Owners Of The Earth, or randomly attacking the rest of the world". Since I'm pretty sure that the US nuking someone recently would be in the papers, I assumed that he was talking about attacking with conventional weapons.
Having nukes means you can roll the tanks into any country that doesn't have nukes (like Chechnya, Tibet, or Afghanistan) and there isn't diddley squat they, or anyone else, can really do about it.
Try to pay attention next time.
You're referring to the half-second of film that made her a major celebrity? And by saying that she didn't know they were doing it, she comes out not looking like a slut?
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Sounds to me like she's smarter than you think
Chechnya, Tibet, Kashmir. If the French had the ability to project power, they'd be pulling crap too.
Actually, Osama started hating the US because the Saudi govt let the US put bases and troops in their country when Iraq invaded Kuwait. He felt that Saudis were perfectly capable of defending their own country.
In retrospect, it would have been interesting to see how an Iraqi invasion of SA would have gone.
I think you're referring to the $60 million in food aid sent there by a UN related NGO. This was addressed in a previous thread, and the conclusion reached in that thread was that whoever continues to spread this FUD is a mindless troll incapable of rational thought.
Hey man, we've decoded the genome. Time to move on to the next generation of really kewl stuff. Nukes are your grandpa's weapon of mass destruction.
Like the old Polish joke about the guy trying to kill himself with an electric razor.
"No cuttings in their flesh"? Hmmm. Maybe he'll get acute appendicitis. . .
The Taliban wasn't recognized by any country as the legitimate leaders of Afghanistan by any nation except, I believe, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Oman (or Yemen?). After 9/11 Pakistan and SA ceased recognizing them. You may as well argue that the Mafia is the legitimate ruler of Sicily.
Well, of course. Iraqis can't vote, they don't pay taxes, and most importantly, it's illegal for them to contribute to election campaigns
Yes it is. Don't think Saddam and his secret police are going to be killing many more people. You also forget the tens of thousands of dead Kurds, the hundreds of thousands that died because of sanctions, and the millions in the Iran-Iraq war.
I suppose we shouldn't have landed in Normandy on D-Day because some French civilians could have gotten hurt.
You can quite legitimately complain about how or why the war was conducted, but you can't deny that in the not-so-very long run it saved innocent lives.
So, according to you, nobody should have invested money in the United States from, say, 1955 through 1990? MAD worked for US/USSR; it'll work for Pakistan/India. In a few years NK will have missiles that can hit California. Guess people should stop investing in companies on the west coast.
Creating jobs in countries where 25% of the population is starving to death is not ethical? I think you need to fine-tune your argument a little, man.
Hitler was elected to power in an election: A) True or B) False.
Actually, I'm not worried about the US becoming a tyranny, precisely because there are so many gun nuts in this country. BTW, I don't own a gun, have never owned a gun, and never plan on owning a gun.
They weren't willing to submit to occupation by Allied troops. The military was not willing to give up control of the country until the Emperor told them to, after Nagasaki. Even then, some of them plotted to fight on. After the Emperor recorded his speech to the Japanese people, telling them to lay down their arms and accept surrender, about a thousand renegade Japanese troops occupied the Emperor's palace grounds and held the Emperor captive. They tried (but failed) to get support of the general in charge of the Army district around Tokyo; if they'd got his support the surrender would not have been broadcast. If *that* had happened, Tokyo would have been nuked a few days later.
And if you think ending the war without occupation, and leaving those military leaders in charge of Japan would be an acceptable ending, you're nuts.
So would you also think that a million unarmed Chinese marching in Tianamen Square can accomplish the same thing that a million armed Chinese can? How about a million unarmed Jews marching in Berlin in 1943? Since you're European, if you think that democracies can't become tyrannies, you're either old with a bad memory or young with bad history teachers.
The 2nd amendment doesn't exist so people can overthrow the govt, it exists so the people can take it back if it's taken from them. America's got by far the strongest military in the world. Who in the hell will liberate America if it moves towards tyranny? You all should be *glad* the US has the 2nd Amendment.
Yes, because there are plenty of Al-Queda members that are multi-frickin-millionairs.
I'm not really scared of someone half a world away if they're only making $20 a year.
What do you think the entire *point* of the ID movement is? Or what the point of Creationism was?
Dude, how do you think they determine the calorie content of food? They put it in a calorometer, burn it with O2, and measure the heat coming out.
The Eurofighter.
And before you spout mindless nonsense about the EU not being our enemy, I seem to recall several nations hostile to the US having Mirages in their arsenal. Why should the DoD trust the French to not be whores?
I knew some guys who worked at Lockheed near Fort Worth; evidently once some guy was goofing around on the production line and was sitting in a seat and did an ejection straight into the roof of the building.
Learn some history beyond what your hippie teacher taught you in 10th grade. Maybe start with "Downfall".
The Japanese were trying to get the Soviets to intervene, for essentially a truce, with the psycho nutjobs running Japan staying in power. We knew what their intentions at the time were; we'd broken their diplomatic codes. We *knew* the Japanese weren't willing to surrender in a manner acceptable to the Allies.
Days after Hiroshima the Japanese were still moving troops and equipment south to prepare for the American invasion. Renegade officers (the "young tigers" actually occupied the Imperial grounds and held the Emperor hostage to keep him from surrendering.
Face it. People are selfish and self-centered. That's why capitalism and democracy work. And as far as those starving children are concerned, it's usually because their leaders are, well, selfish and self-centered, and about the only way that'll be changed is through military force. And we all know how you feel about *that*.
Wasn't it just two or three years ago that the left was wailing and gnashing their teeth over the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children dying because of the sanctions?