One thing I HATE is that I have to make it IN TO MY PREFERENCES to change the setting, and then I have to reset it when I go back to a full-featured graphical browser. I wish/. did user-agent checking, and if a browser was on a list of text-mode and small browsers, it got lite mode.
I knew that NT was actually targeted at the i860, and was quickly ported to x86, MIPS, PPC, and Alpha. Alpha support almost continued into 2000 64-bit Edition (which became XP 64-bit), where Itanium support was supposed to appear. Instead, the last Alpha version was a beta of 2000 32-bit. However, there is still a non-x86 NT - XP and 2K3 64-bit IA64.
Actually, the current IS OS/2. Microsoft was in charge of development on OS/2 2.0, and instead developed NT (from all that old OS/2 1.x stuff), and told IBM to f*ck off.
Well, Calmira is the progman.exe replacement of choice for Win3.1, but there were a whole slew of 3.x ProgMan replacements. http://toastytech.com/guis has a bunch of replacement shells under Other.
After manufacture, they're tested and sorted as to what their actual maximum stable speed is, individually.
If that were true, then overclocking couldn't exist (except for slight overclocks within the headroom that the chip maker provides). Overclocking works because sometimes the manufacturer doesn't have demand for the x.xGHz part, and doesn't even test some parts for x.xGHz capability, and instead tests it for y.yGHz capability, where y.y x.x. This is called an economic speed binning. The Celeron 300A and Pentium 4 1.8A were examples of this practice.
So it's the same client (Freeshell also uses SquirrelMail for webmail, but they also offer Pine if you use the shell account).
Seeing as they DON'T check for false positives, I'm afraid of the same problem I've got with SoftHome. I'd rather have no server-side filtering at all, and do it all on my computer.
Well, that's nice to know - I have a Pentium 233 MMX.
I might just get one of these then. I had read everywhere that if I have less than a 500MHz CPU, don't even think about it. Maybe it's because those drivers use that grab-and-display method...
The Leadtek TV2000 XP Deluxe uses a Conexant BT878A chipset, so it's quite compatible with anything that can drive a BT878. Yes, your Linux box supports it. Now, if I just had a box powerful enough to drive one of these...
What, the cache? Umm... the EE is essentially a Xeon MP on Socket 478 (and now T) with standard desktop CPU clock speeds. The cache IS of benefit on the server. Something tells me anything that is RAM/disk intensive would benefit from it, as long as it's working in a small area of that data.
You are also forgetting that Opera is already becoming a household name on mobiles, which means that it is turning into a well known and popular brand. Nokia recently ran ads bragging about how they had Opera on their phones!
Where is this, though? I haven't seen any of this in the US, but over here you buy a phone from the provider, and it is locked onto that provider forever. Also, they don't WANT you using their wireless web services - Sprint, for example, charges more for Vision service on a Pocket PC phone, which comes with a more full-featured browser (I know it's crap, but it's got more features than a WAP browser). Also, how did they get to be a household name in the US? If it's because of being bundled with phones, then not being bundled with phones made by the company that controls Symbian, their only phone platform (Linux phones aren't exactly common), can screw them over.
Oh yeah, and Opera on the desktop is actually more widely used than Firefox in Europe - at least in Eastern European countries such as Poland and Russia. Huge, untapped markets.
Where are you getting these statistics?
What matters here is not that you are bundled with some obscure operating system, but that there is demand for an alternative, and there is. Linux users usually get lots of different browsers with their distribution, yet many of them download Opera!
Myself included. However, why is there ~90% usage of IE 6, according to the May 2004 Zeitgeist? It's not like IE is a good browser, after all. There's only room for 10% more, and the Zeitgeist shows Moz at about 3%, and "Other", of which Opera is only a part of, at about 4%.
A server that wants to survive slashdottings would be better served by static pages and a large pipe. A P75 with 48MB RAM (kplug.org) survived a/.ing, after all.
OK, have those mod points removed. I've got near 50 anyway.
I'm just thinking that mobile is where Opera's got their biggest market, and it just got ripped away from them.
I'm not saying that eCS and Zeta are the ONLY things that'll make it survive, but that many more users will help. Also, I know it's AVAILABLE for almost every Symbian phone, but it's not bundled with many (I found out it is more than one, though).
BTW, don't take this as an anti-Opera flame or a pro-OS/2 flame - I'm running 7.51, and my main box runs Mandrake 10.
Of course. It's called Minimo (Mini Mozilla), and it is supposed to be smaller. However, it is a ram hog just like Firefox.
BTW, Opera 6.31 for the P800 is 0.8MB. AFAIK, it doesn't have the mail client, the IRC client, the newsreader, the fancy themes, etc.
Minimo 0.2-b for Linux/ARM is 4.8MB, only.1MB smaller than Firefox.
To make it fair, I'll throw in Opera 6.0 for the Zaurus (Linux/ARM) - 2.4MB, but it's a repackaging (for reloading the OS on a Zaurus without killing Opera).
Well, what package do you want, what level of QT do you want?
For.deb and.rpm, the range is 3.6MB to 4.9MB, depending on your distro and version (obviously, the.deb is for Debian). For.tar.gz, the range is 3.6MB to 5.0MB, again depending on distro.
Actually, it's not that bad. I'm predicting that 7.51 might be one of the last Opera versions though, or maybe one of the last good ones. Unless, of course, they can get 7.51 over ODIN runing on eComStation, and convince them to bundle it, and 7.51 on a theoretical BeOS Winelib port, and convince YellowTab to move to them. It'd be VERY hard though, seeing as both of those OSes use Firefox...
It's the bundling thing. Here's who's bundled with who:
MSIE: Windows, and it's the biggest because of this Firefox: eComStation (OS/2), YellowTab Zeta (BeOS), some Linux distros, and they're pretty big Moz Suite: Some Linux distros, and it's declining (due to Moz Firefox) Konqueror: Some large Linux distros, is the file manager in all KDE-based distros Safari: Mac OS, becoming common Opera: Sharp Zaurus Linux PDAs, one model of Nokia phone (not for long, though), one model of discontinued Psion PDA, and it's only bigger than Safari because it's available on Win32, Linux (x86, PPC, SPARC), Solaris (SPARC), FreeBSD (x86), Mac OS, and Symbian in current versions (the Symbian branch is developed differently than the others, which explains why it's still 6.x).
Imported Opera favorites, history, passwords, etc., no problem. My homepage was set to/., and my favorites bar was the same as Opera's. THAT is slick.
It seems slower, though...
The new theme feels TOO XPish, but this box has XP, so...
While looking for Qute, Firefox disappeared. I've seen this in Opera FINAL versions, and this is a beta, but I'd still like to see it fixed.
Rendering seems a bit off...
I'm going to stick with Opera, but FF does have a couple of advantages other than it being FOSS - it is a better drop-in replacement for IE, and it's better for kiosks where users have access to the keyboard (or any situation where it needs to be locked down).
The verdict? Well, I'm still typing in Opera (7.23, of all versions - I need to update this box to 7.51).
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One thing I HATE is that I have to make it IN TO MY PREFERENCES to change the setting, and then I have to reset it when I go back to a full-featured graphical browser. I wish /. did user-agent checking, and if a browser was on a list of text-mode and small browsers, it got lite mode.
I knew that NT was actually targeted at the i860, and was quickly ported to x86, MIPS, PPC, and Alpha. Alpha support almost continued into 2000 64-bit Edition (which became XP 64-bit), where Itanium support was supposed to appear. Instead, the last Alpha version was a beta of 2000 32-bit. However, there is still a non-x86 NT - XP and 2K3 64-bit IA64.
Actually, the current IS OS/2. Microsoft was in charge of development on OS/2 2.0, and instead developed NT (from all that old OS/2 1.x stuff), and told IBM to f*ck off.
Blackbox for Windows is REALLY small. BTW, I tried GeoShell on my old Win95 laptop, and it SUCKED HARD (stuff overlapping, etc.)
BTW, ReactOS is based on WINE - if it weren't for WINE, it couldn't run much of anything.
Well, Calmira is the progman.exe replacement of choice for Win3.1, but there were a whole slew of 3.x ProgMan replacements. http://toastytech.com/guis has a bunch of replacement shells under Other.
Actually, it's the other way around - Minix was meant to go alongside it. Minix was written for it.
After manufacture, they're tested and sorted as to what their actual maximum stable speed is, individually.
If that were true, then overclocking couldn't exist (except for slight overclocks within the headroom that the chip maker provides). Overclocking works because sometimes the manufacturer doesn't have demand for the x.xGHz part, and doesn't even test some parts for x.xGHz capability, and instead tests it for y.yGHz capability, where y.y x.x. This is called an economic speed binning. The Celeron 300A and Pentium 4 1.8A were examples of this practice.
He had a good experience with it, but it didn't do some things he needed. Also, he wanted to learn 386 assembler.
So it's the same client (Freeshell also uses SquirrelMail for webmail, but they also offer Pine if you use the shell account).
Seeing as they DON'T check for false positives, I'm afraid of the same problem I've got with SoftHome. I'd rather have no server-side filtering at all, and do it all on my computer.
Well, that's nice to know - I have a Pentium 233 MMX.
I might just get one of these then. I had read everywhere that if I have less than a 500MHz CPU, don't even think about it. Maybe it's because those drivers use that grab-and-display method...
The Leadtek TV2000 XP Deluxe uses a Conexant BT878A chipset, so it's quite compatible with anything that can drive a BT878. Yes, your Linux box supports it. Now, if I just had a box powerful enough to drive one of these...
What, the cache? Umm... the EE is essentially a Xeon MP on Socket 478 (and now T) with standard desktop CPU clock speeds. The cache IS of benefit on the server. Something tells me anything that is RAM/disk intensive would benefit from it, as long as it's working in a small area of that data.
You are also forgetting that Opera is already becoming a household name on mobiles, which means that it is turning into a well known and popular brand. Nokia recently ran ads bragging about how they had Opera on their phones!
Where is this, though? I haven't seen any of this in the US, but over here you buy a phone from the provider, and it is locked onto that provider forever. Also, they don't WANT you using their wireless web services - Sprint, for example, charges more for Vision service on a Pocket PC phone, which comes with a more full-featured browser (I know it's crap, but it's got more features than a WAP browser). Also, how did they get to be a household name in the US? If it's because of being bundled with phones, then not being bundled with phones made by the company that controls Symbian, their only phone platform (Linux phones aren't exactly common), can screw them over.
Oh yeah, and Opera on the desktop is actually more widely used than Firefox in Europe - at least in Eastern European countries such as Poland and Russia. Huge, untapped markets.
Where are you getting these statistics?
What matters here is not that you are bundled with some obscure operating system, but that there is demand for an alternative, and there is. Linux users usually get lots of different browsers with their distribution, yet many of them download Opera!
Myself included. However, why is there ~90% usage of IE 6, according to the May 2004 Zeitgeist? It's not like IE is a good browser, after all. There's only room for 10% more, and the Zeitgeist shows Moz at about 3%, and "Other", of which Opera is only a part of, at about 4%.
A server that wants to survive slashdottings would be better served by static pages and a large pipe. A P75 with 48MB RAM (kplug.org) survived a /.ing, after all.
http://cpu-museum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=927&pos tdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
The UltraSPARC II used something like what you refer to.
OK, have those mod points removed. I've got near 50 anyway.
I'm just thinking that mobile is where Opera's got their biggest market, and it just got ripped away from them.
I'm not saying that eCS and Zeta are the ONLY things that'll make it survive, but that many more users will help. Also, I know it's AVAILABLE for almost every Symbian phone, but it's not bundled with many (I found out it is more than one, though).
BTW, don't take this as an anti-Opera flame or a pro-OS/2 flame - I'm running 7.51, and my main box runs Mandrake 10.
Ahh... and THAT is how they get you to get XP...
Of course. It's called Minimo (Mini Mozilla), and it is supposed to be smaller. However, it is a ram hog just like Firefox.
.1MB smaller than Firefox.
BTW, Opera 6.31 for the P800 is 0.8MB. AFAIK, it doesn't have the mail client, the IRC client, the newsreader, the fancy themes, etc.
Minimo 0.2-b for Linux/ARM is 4.8MB, only
To make it fair, I'll throw in Opera 6.0 for the Zaurus (Linux/ARM) - 2.4MB, but it's a repackaging (for reloading the OS on a Zaurus without killing Opera).
Show me an example. I'm currently running 7.51 Win32.
if they are up to something big
DRM?
IE seems to be on hold up until Longhorn
Wait until XP SP2, and you'll get a new IE. Pop-up blocking and download managing are the only new features, AFAICT, though.
Well, what package do you want, what level of QT do you want?
.deb and .rpm, the range is 3.6MB to 4.9MB, depending on your distro and version (obviously, the .deb is for Debian). .tar.gz, the range is 3.6MB to 5.0MB, again depending on distro.
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Actually, it's not that bad. I'm predicting that 7.51 might be one of the last Opera versions though, or maybe one of the last good ones. Unless, of course, they can get 7.51 over ODIN runing on eComStation, and convince them to bundle it, and 7.51 on a theoretical BeOS Winelib port, and convince YellowTab to move to them. It'd be VERY hard though, seeing as both of those OSes use Firefox...
It's the bundling thing. Here's who's bundled with who:
MSIE: Windows, and it's the biggest because of this
Firefox: eComStation (OS/2), YellowTab Zeta (BeOS), some Linux distros, and they're pretty big
Moz Suite: Some Linux distros, and it's declining (due to Moz Firefox)
Konqueror: Some large Linux distros, is the file manager in all KDE-based distros
Safari: Mac OS, becoming common
Opera: Sharp Zaurus Linux PDAs, one model of Nokia phone (not for long, though), one model of discontinued Psion PDA, and it's only bigger than Safari because it's available on Win32, Linux (x86, PPC, SPARC), Solaris (SPARC), FreeBSD (x86), Mac OS, and Symbian in current versions (the Symbian branch is developed differently than the others, which explains why it's still 6.x).
Umm... if Opera can scale down their browser further than Mozilla can on the desktop, it probably means they can do the same on handhelds.
Typing in here as I go along:
/., and my favorites bar was the same as Opera's. THAT is slick.
Imported Opera favorites, history, passwords, etc., no problem. My homepage was set to
It seems slower, though...
The new theme feels TOO XPish, but this box has XP, so...
While looking for Qute, Firefox disappeared. I've seen this in Opera FINAL versions, and this is a beta, but I'd still like to see it fixed.
Rendering seems a bit off...
I'm going to stick with Opera, but FF does have a couple of advantages other than it being FOSS - it is a better drop-in replacement for IE, and it's better for kiosks where users have access to the keyboard (or any situation where it needs to be locked down).
The verdict? Well, I'm still typing in Opera (7.23, of all versions - I need to update this box to 7.51).