I heard that PowerLeap is working on an adaptor for the Pentium M. Why not just use that? I mean, it's even less than Pentium III heat levels, and the IPC is similar to the A64. Also, while you can't get an 1166MHz Barton (I think the current Durons are Applebreds (AKA Thoroughbreds with half the cache)), you can get a 2GHz Northwood (even a full P4! The slowest P4 Northwood is the 1.8A, AFAIK.)
Theoretically, yes. All the adaptor does is get the four useful wires (actually, it does carry five) from one plug format to another. Right now, I'm running my PS/2 Model M through a PS/2-AT adaptor (and I'm running in an AT case, not ATX!)
Thing is, what Mandrake's calling stable now will become testing level. Basically, right now, they take Cooker, work the bugs out, and get Official. What they're going to do, is take Cooker, work the bugs out, get Community (same level as old Official), work some more bugs out, and release Official.
Here's how it's going to match up:
Cooker's going to stay Cooker, and it's equivalent is Debian Unstable if you're looking at the Debian model. Official is going to become Community. It's about at Debian Testing level. A new level will be called Official, and it'll be roughly equivalent to Debian Stable (except more up to date - who would think of using a 2.2 kernel nowadays?)
This was actually a Linksys Cardbus card, it's just it was a rtl8180, which meant I had to recompile my kernel (I had to do that to get proper ACPI support, though). I never did recompile it - I didn't know what SuSE compiled it with, and at the time I had Windows to boot into (I think the registry got borked somehow).
I read your post, and I realized: that's what they're doing, except it's the club members who get the updated ISOs. I personally think that if it's a showstopping problem (for example, the LG drive bug), they NEED to release the fix in an updated ISO TO THE PUBLIC.
I had a different experience. I used SuSE 8.2, which seemed pretty good out of the box (well, ethernet cable), but once I pushed it (a weird wifi card, Samba printer, and various RPMs), it didn't hold up. I never did finish getting the WiFi card, but I got the Samba printer. Many RPMs just plain didn't work, and some had dependencies that I KNEW I had satisfied, but didn't take. Even some from SuSE's own package list segfaulted (FlightGear). Mandrake? It FELT worse out of the box, and didn't seem very newbie-friendly, but everything worked, even though it was haphazard.
Also be sure to check my favorite GUI: VisiCorp Visi On! back in in 1983 there was a GUI platform and office package for IBM PCs called Visi On from VisiCorp. Legend has it Bill Gates saw a demo of this running at the 1982 comdex running on an IBM PC. He freaked out because Microsoft didn't have anything like this yet, ran back to Microsoft Headquarters, and had them start work on what, several years later, became Windows. --toastytech.com
That puts it at 1982, and rumor has it that they copied Xerox starting in 1981.
I e-mailed PowerLeap, asking if they would consider making an adaptor from Socket 479 (used by the Pentium M) to Socket 478. I recieved a reply stating that they were already working on this upgrade, and to expect something in Q1 2004 (this was in November or December). Once I get a chance, I'll post the e-mail to my site (which reminds me, I need to get that back up).
They don't want to admit that P6 will last a VERY long time. In their opinion, P6 should have died the day the first Williamette was released, and possibly earlier. P6, however, was the only option for a mobile CPU. I don't think that Banias OR Dothan could have hit 3.2GHz without insane cooling, but they could easily hit a "4000+" rating on either the AMD Duron 1.0-based scale or a Northwood or Prescott-based scale.
In fact, I'm surprised that Prescott is even considered a P4 core. To me it seems like a radical design change.
I do agree that the Prescott should be a Pentium 5, seeing as it's a redesign, and it has a new revision of SSE (Intel DID get away with Katmai being a Pentium III, after all - I think Katmai should have been the P2B, but...)
The performance that Northwood is achieving right now would probably be much more difficult to hit on a Pentium 3 core.
Do you mean a Tualatin core, or the P6 core that is the basis of the Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, and Pentium M (and Celeron counterparts)? If it's P6, then you're wrong - a 2.0GHz Banias (no such CPU exists, but I don't know if Dothan enhances the core or just lets it hit higher clock speeds) could murder a 3.2 (maybe even 3.4)GHz Northwood in heat, cost, power consumption, performance, etc. Yes, I'm waxing poetic about the Pentium M, but it's a damn good CPU, and my next rig will either be an A64 desktop or laptop, or a P-M desktop (PowerLeap's developing an adaptor) or laptop.
It's on http://toastytech.com/guis (not the most reliable Apache/Linux server, mind you), and that was just the announcement. Development dates back to 1981 or 1982.
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IE6: ~75MB Opera (includes popup blocker, relational database in e-mail client, tabbed browsing, better scaling, built-in CSS stylesheet changing, etc, etc.): 3.2MB Mozilla (not as good popup blocker, decent e-mail client, tabbed browsing (not as good)): ~15MB
I'm thinking IE is bloated, considering it DOESN'T have those features, and Opera is 71.8MB smaller.
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Tell them to go here, instead of http://www.google.com: http://216.239.37.99 (use tinyurl to make it better if you want)
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Actually, if someone can't find what they need on MSN, they'll switch. If enough sites participate, MSN Search WON'T WORK VERY WELL.
I don't think so, due to copyright law and automatic copyrights (he didn't state copyright, but it's there, except for where he explicitly gave some rights away), but they could copyright a modification.
From his site: Feel free to do whatever you see fit with the images, you are encouraged to integrate them into other designs that fit your need.
Might be a troll (first clue: Debian Troll's Best), but good point about FreeBSD. My guess is that this person didn't know that much about Linux, saw all the IBM ads, and figured IBM was going to start charging. However, would Joe Sixpack make the connection? I guess some of us should have gotten 30 seconds on the Super Bowl to explain Linux to Joe Sixpack. Also, the pitchfork is a bad idea. They say that the penguin is cute. Making him hold a pitchfork implies that it's Depenguinated to geeks, and evil to others.
Actually, Apple has the 1984 ad on their site with a small modification (no, not even the "On January 24th, Apple will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984"" changed.) She's got an iPod now.
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I heard that PowerLeap is working on an adaptor for the Pentium M. Why not just use that? I mean, it's even less than Pentium III heat levels, and the IPC is similar to the A64. Also, while you can't get an 1166MHz Barton (I think the current Durons are Applebreds (AKA Thoroughbreds with half the cache)), you can get a 2GHz Northwood (even a full P4! The slowest P4 Northwood is the 1.8A, AFAIK.)
Theoretically, yes. All the adaptor does is get the four useful wires (actually, it does carry five) from one plug format to another. Right now, I'm running my PS/2 Model M through a PS/2-AT adaptor (and I'm running in an AT case, not ATX!)
Well, they DO make serial-to-USB adaptors. Basically, it's a serial controller with port that plugs into a USB port.
Thing is, what Mandrake's calling stable now will become testing level. Basically, right now, they take Cooker, work the bugs out, and get Official. What they're going to do, is take Cooker, work the bugs out, get Community (same level as old Official), work some more bugs out, and release Official.
Here's how it's going to match up:
Cooker's going to stay Cooker, and it's equivalent is Debian Unstable if you're looking at the Debian model.
Official is going to become Community. It's about at Debian Testing level.
A new level will be called Official, and it'll be roughly equivalent to Debian Stable (except more up to date - who would think of using a 2.2 kernel nowadays?)
This was actually a Linksys Cardbus card, it's just it was a rtl8180, which meant I had to recompile my kernel (I had to do that to get proper ACPI support, though). I never did recompile it - I didn't know what SuSE compiled it with, and at the time I had Windows to boot into (I think the registry got borked somehow).
I read your post, and I realized: that's what they're doing, except it's the club members who get the updated ISOs. I personally think that if it's a showstopping problem (for example, the LG drive bug), they NEED to release the fix in an updated ISO TO THE PUBLIC.
I had a different experience. I used SuSE 8.2, which seemed pretty good out of the box (well, ethernet cable), but once I pushed it (a weird wifi card, Samba printer, and various RPMs), it didn't hold up. I never did finish getting the WiFi card, but I got the Samba printer. Many RPMs just plain didn't work, and some had dependencies that I KNEW I had satisfied, but didn't take. Even some from SuSE's own package list segfaulted (FlightGear). Mandrake? It FELT worse out of the box, and didn't seem very newbie-friendly, but everything worked, even though it was haphazard.
Also be sure to check my favorite GUI: VisiCorp Visi On! back in in 1983 there was a GUI platform and office package for IBM PCs called Visi On from VisiCorp. Legend has it Bill Gates saw a demo of this running at the 1982 comdex running on an IBM PC. He freaked out because Microsoft didn't have anything like this yet, ran back to Microsoft Headquarters, and had them start work on what, several years later, became Windows. --toastytech.com
That puts it at 1982, and rumor has it that they copied Xerox starting in 1981.
I e-mailed PowerLeap, asking if they would consider making an adaptor from Socket 479 (used by the Pentium M) to Socket 478. I recieved a reply stating that they were already working on this upgrade, and to expect something in Q1 2004 (this was in November or December). Once I get a chance, I'll post the e-mail to my site (which reminds me, I need to get that back up).
Actually, the extra transistors on the MP are already there on the XP, it's just a bridge on the XP isn't filled, so it doesn't identify as an MP.
Also, the extra transistors are on the pre-Tualatin Celerons. Ever heard of the ABIT BP6? A dual-S370 board from when S370 was only used by Celerons.
They don't want to admit that P6 will last a VERY long time. In their opinion, P6 should have died the day the first Williamette was released, and possibly earlier. P6, however, was the only option for a mobile CPU. I don't think that Banias OR Dothan could have hit 3.2GHz without insane cooling, but they could easily hit a "4000+" rating on either the AMD Duron 1.0-based scale or a Northwood or Prescott-based scale.
In fact, I'm surprised that Prescott is even considered a P4 core. To me it seems like a radical design change.
I do agree that the Prescott should be a Pentium 5, seeing as it's a redesign, and it has a new revision of SSE (Intel DID get away with Katmai being a Pentium III, after all - I think Katmai should have been the P2B, but...)
The performance that Northwood is achieving right now would probably be much more difficult to hit on a Pentium 3 core.
Do you mean a Tualatin core, or the P6 core that is the basis of the Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, and Pentium M (and Celeron counterparts)? If it's P6, then you're wrong - a 2.0GHz Banias (no such CPU exists, but I don't know if Dothan enhances the core or just lets it hit higher clock speeds) could murder a 3.2 (maybe even 3.4)GHz Northwood in heat, cost, power consumption, performance, etc. Yes, I'm waxing poetic about the Pentium M, but it's a damn good CPU, and my next rig will either be an A64 desktop or laptop, or a P-M desktop (PowerLeap's developing an adaptor) or laptop.
Actually, I've heard that the AMD performance ratings are against the Duron 1.0GHz, meaning that THAT CPU performs approximately like a Northwood.
OK, so how do I, without installing an extension, get Mozilla to put any new windows in tabs automatically? Didn't think so.
Actually, they said the average install was 25MB, still making it the largest of the three by far.
It's on http://toastytech.com/guis (not the most reliable Apache/Linux server, mind you), and that was just the announcement. Development dates back to 1981 or 1982.
IE6: ~75MB
Opera (includes popup blocker, relational database in e-mail client, tabbed browsing, better scaling, built-in CSS stylesheet changing, etc, etc.): 3.2MB
Mozilla (not as good popup blocker, decent e-mail client, tabbed browsing (not as good)): ~15MB
I'm thinking IE is bloated, considering it DOESN'T have those features, and Opera is 71.8MB smaller.
Tell them to go here, instead of http://www.google.com: http://216.239.37.99 (use tinyurl to make it better if you want)
Actually, if someone can't find what they need on MSN, they'll switch. If enough sites participate, MSN Search WON'T WORK VERY WELL.
I don't think so, due to copyright law and automatic copyrights (he didn't state copyright, but it's there, except for where he explicitly gave some rights away), but they could copyright a modification.
From his site:
Feel free to do whatever you see fit with the images, you are encouraged to integrate them into other designs that fit your need.
Might be a troll (first clue: Debian Troll's Best), but good point about FreeBSD. My guess is that this person didn't know that much about Linux, saw all the IBM ads, and figured IBM was going to start charging. However, would Joe Sixpack make the connection? I guess some of us should have gotten 30 seconds on the Super Bowl to explain Linux to Joe Sixpack. Also, the pitchfork is a bad idea. They say that the penguin is cute. Making him hold a pitchfork implies that it's Depenguinated to geeks, and evil to others.
By the way, I noticed something:
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make sure that you vote at 9pm on Sunday 1/31
That's tommorrow? Shows how much interest I have
Actually, I've got Saturday 1/31/2004 here.
Actually, Apple has the 1984 ad on their site with a small modification (no, not even the "On January 24th, Apple will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984"" changed.) She's got an iPod now.
Yes, I'm well aware that Xeons can go over 4 megabytes. But they can't go over it in one large block.
Umm, last I checked, Xeons were 32-bit processors, not... oh, damn, how many bits would that be? Less than 16, and more than 8, that's for sure.
PDP-10: 36-bit
EDSAC: 35-bit
ICL 1900: 24-bit
PDP-8: 12-bit
PDP-5: 12-bit
IBM 360: 36-bit
UNIVAC I: 72-bit (84-bit with parity bits)
UNIVAC 490: 30-bit
(no particular order)