The parent to my post asked the question in his sig, and I could not place it where he wanted. So, I placed it in reply to his comment. OT? Yes. Unavoidable? No. I didn't use my karma bonus, but Score:1 or 2, Offtopic would be fair. It IS OT, but there's nowhere else it can go.
I would have posted in your journal, but it's archived.
I feel a modern computer system is expandable to a major extent (i.e., multiple slots), yet it can be run without any expansions installed. The Apple II, an 8-bit system, fills this requirement, and I feel it is the first modern computer system. As for the OS, multitasking is a must. True multitasking, actually - no Win9x/ME or Mac OS 9.x... Ease of use is vital. A powerful GUI is a necessary option, however, the GUI need not be running for the OS to be modern.
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How 'bout some help here: it's AOL with WalMart branding. Same terms as AOL, just cheaper and with less free hours. So, you have one month to use 700 free hours. If you go over, you have to pay for that first month (AFAIK). If you go under, you don't get those extra hours back. I bet AOL did that because people would use 10 hours per month, so they got 50 months free, so AOL had to do something.
It isn't. This laptop has an 800MHz C3, whereas WalMart was thinking along the lines of the Athlon XP-M or Celeron. Not a bad price for ultra-thin and light, but the CPU sucks ass (any C3 without a C5* class core (currently only Nehemia @ 1GHz) sucks ass).
I haven't heard any reviews, but considering FSB was the main limiting factor of the previous US Aldi PC, the one that just came out should be kick ass.
Big difference. They're both Socket 370 (well, the C3 is also in EBGA), but the Celery is MUCH faster (it's also MUCH hotter, though - OTOH, not bad in comparison to a Pentium 4)...
Actually, I did that in 10 minutes building my own desktop, and I could have done it in two, looking at the specs and base unit pricing.
They don't want you finding out how much Lindows costs them, however. The Lindows byo box has a faster CD-RW than the No OS byo box. The prices for the base units are:
$196.00 for No OS $210.48 for LindowsOS
It costs them $14.48 for Lindows and a faster CD-RW.
What about AVG? Sure, it's UI ain't great, but it'll do the job. BTW, avast! is FUGLY. WHY in god's name would you skin an AV app to look like an MP3 player?
Actually, they'll cost about the same if WalMart's smart - Lindows costs $99, and WalMart sells it to the users at $99 on the box, and most whiteboxers sell XP Home for $99 on the box. Besides, some will also ask their computer guy in the family what is the best deal, and said computer guy will say the Lindows box (if it's $20 cheaper), then load either his favorite distro or a Win2K/XP CD off of Kazaa or something... Some people will also see $750 for the Lindows box, and $770 for the Windows box, and think the $750 one is a better deal (which it is, if you pirate) - and get screwed when they find out it can't run Windows software worth a shit (it's WINE, what did you expect?)...
They'll be paying $99 for Lindows (look at their Lindows vs. Lycoris boxes - for their worst config, the Lindows box costs $299, the Lycoris box costs $239, and wait! Lycoris costs $39!) and most likely LESS for Windows (if it's XP Home, most whiteboxers sell it to users for $99).
They're selling a XP-M 1600+ for $898, and that's got some features I'm sure they'd skimp on... The XP-M is a lower performance, lower cost alternative to the Pentium M at low clock speeds, and a higher performance, slightly higher cost alternative to the Pentium 4-M at high clock speeds.
If you're going to ditch the FDD, it's CD-RW. People also want to watch DVDs. Modems? Keep in mind, most people use dial-up. Windows XP? Everyone knows how to use that.
BTW, you don't have to ditch the modem or WinXP to get a 2GHz Celeron box from Dell for $800... The modem is $15 tops (it's a Conexant, after all...), and that's probably what they're paying for XP Home, too. Myself, I want a CD-RW (maybe DVD), no OS, the modem for if I'm in a hotel somewhere and need to connect, 1.3GHz Pentium M, wifi, all that good shit, and for $1000. As it is, I'm stuck paying $1220 for that, except with XP Pro (minus $279 if I do it right, though...)
They use SuSE, too. I'd personally prefer a SuSE laptop, thank you very much... BTW, Lycoris isn't TOO bad for computer newbs, but it looks like it sucks for Windows-proficient users switching to Linux. That's where SuSE fits in.
What, like Medion? I know they're a seperate company, but anyone want to bet they're under Aldi control? (BTW, their products ARE pretty cheap - $799 for a P4-2.6HT, 512MB RAM, DVDRW (forget whether it was +, -, or +-), 160GB HDD, wireless kb/mouse, then there's the USB tablet - $40 for an aiptek 12000u clone (linux drivers), and vnunet likes it) At least Medion makes stuff that's worth something (except for their first PC - only popular in Europe, but it made WAY too much noise - so much that aftermarket fan kits were made for it), unlike some of the Sam's Crap...
Hmm... NT4 acted like THAT? I know Win2K/XP automatically grabs the profile from the server, and does the merging right there. If there are conflicting files, they're taken care of on logoff with a box similar to that that you get when you copy a file to a directory that already has that file.
They offer several Lindows, Lycoris, and SuSE preloaded desktops, if you didn't know. Myself, I'd build my own, but these would be GREAT for people who want a cheap, easy, and secure box (note to WalMart - Lindows runs as root - NOT SECURE!)
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No. She yanked HER cord out of HER jack, and looked down at her jack. He realized that she wanted him to unjack, and then jack in to her iPod, and let her jack in to his iPod. RTFA.
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The parent to my post asked the question in his sig, and I could not place it where he wanted. So, I placed it in reply to his comment. OT? Yes. Unavoidable? No. I didn't use my karma bonus, but Score:1 or 2, Offtopic would be fair. It IS OT, but there's nowhere else it can go.
I would have posted in your journal, but it's archived.
I feel a modern computer system is expandable to a major extent (i.e., multiple slots), yet it can be run without any expansions installed. The Apple II, an 8-bit system, fills this requirement, and I feel it is the first modern computer system. As for the OS, multitasking is a must. True multitasking, actually - no Win9x/ME or Mac OS 9.x... Ease of use is vital. A powerful GUI is a necessary option, however, the GUI need not be running for the OS to be modern.
He was being attacked by spam from them and spyware used by them. Simple enough, right?
Agreement:
APPLE COMPUTER, INC.
REPAIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS
IMPORTANT: BY CLICKING ON THE "I HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD, AND AGREE TO THE REPAIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS" STATEMENT BELOW YOU AGREE THAT THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS GOVERN THE REPAIR OF YOUR PRODUCT BY APPLE COMPUTER, INC. ("APPLE")
Apple will repair your product as described and for the charges offered to you (unless such charges are revised with your prior oral or written consent). When the product repair is covered by warranty, Apple will perform repairs under the warranty. You must provide proof of the product's eligibility for warranty repairs. Apple may subcontract with other service providers for the repair of your product.
Unless your product is repaired under warranty without charge to you, you will pay Apple the amount shown. Your payment is due when the product is returned to you. Apple's estimate of costs includes all parts, labor, and certain transportation required for the repair of the product excluding any applicable sales tax.
Apple may charge you a diagnostic fee, and related shipping costs, plus any applicable sales tax, if Apple inspects your product, provides an estimate for you, and you do not authorize Apple to undertake the repairs for the estimated charges.
If Apple determines, while inspecting your product, that repairs are needed due to failures of parts that are neither supplied by Apple nor Apple-branded, Apple will return the product to you without repairing it, and may charge you a diagnostic feeand shipping costs, plus any applicable sales tax.
If the requested repairs require labor not specified in your estimate, Apple will ask for your approval of a revised estimate. If you do not agree that Apple may revise the charges, Apple may return your product and charge you a diagnostic fee, and shipping costs, plus any applicable sales tax.
Apple reserves the right to refuse repair service on products that are damaged due to accident, abuse, misuse, and misapplication, and in such event, Apple will return the product to you without repairing it, and may hold you responsible for a diagnostic fee and shipping costs, plus any applicable sales tax.
If Apple repairs your product under your product's warranty, if the terms of the warranty permit, Apple may use new or reconditioned parts. If Apple repairs your product outside of warranty, Apple may use new or reconditioned parts. Apple will retain the replaced part that is exchanged under repair service as its property, and the replacement part will become your property. Replaced items are generally repairable and are exchanged or repaired by Apple for value. If applicable law requires Apple to return a replaced item to you, you agree to pay Apple the additional cost of the replacement item.
If Apple repairs your product under warranty, the repairs will be covered solely by the terms of the warranty and applicable provisions of law. If your product is repaired outside of warranty, Apple warrants (1) that the repairs will be performed in a workmanlike manner and (2) that all parts will be free from defects in materials and workmanship for ninety (90) days from the date of the repair service. The warranty on parts is an express limited warranty. If a defect exists in a replacement part during the part's warranty period, at its option, Apple will (i) repair the part, using new or refurbished replacement parts, or (ii) replace the part with a new or refurbished equivalent part, or (iii) refund the fair market value of the part.
THIS WARRANTY AND REMEDY ARE EXCLUSIVE AND IN LIEU OF ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, REMEDIES, AND CONDITIONS, WHETHER ORAL OR WRITTEN, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, WITH RESPECT TO THE REPAIR PARTS. APPLE SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES WITH RESPECT TO SUCH PARTS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IF APPLE CANNOT LAWFULLY DISCLAIM IMPLIED WARRANTIES UNDER THIS LIMITED WARRANTY, ALL SUCH WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHA
Try a better browser. I'm using Opera 7.11/Win32, and it works fine. However, it's not what I'd want slashdot to be.
Know a piracy-happy geek with cable or ADSL and either alt.binaries.* or P2P access? It's a $750 laptop.
How 'bout some help here: it's AOL with WalMart branding. Same terms as AOL, just cheaper and with less free hours. So, you have one month to use 700 free hours. If you go over, you have to pay for that first month (AFAIK). If you go under, you don't get those extra hours back. I bet AOL did that because people would use 10 hours per month, so they got 50 months free, so AOL had to do something.
It isn't. This laptop has an 800MHz C3, whereas WalMart was thinking along the lines of the Athlon XP-M or Celeron. Not a bad price for ultra-thin and light, but the CPU sucks ass (any C3 without a C5* class core (currently only Nehemia @ 1GHz) sucks ass).
I haven't heard any reviews, but considering FSB was the main limiting factor of the previous US Aldi PC, the one that just came out should be kick ass.
Big difference. They're both Socket 370 (well, the C3 is also in EBGA), but the Celery is MUCH faster (it's also MUCH hotter, though - OTOH, not bad in comparison to a Pentium 4)...
Actually, I did that in 10 minutes building my own desktop, and I could have done it in two, looking at the specs and base unit pricing.
They don't want you finding out how much Lindows costs them, however. The Lindows byo box has a faster CD-RW than the No OS byo box. The prices for the base units are:
$196.00 for No OS
$210.48 for LindowsOS
It costs them $14.48 for Lindows and a faster CD-RW.
The Lycoris box costs:
$198.00 for No OS
$224.48 for Lycoris
$26.48 for Lycoris.
What about AVG? Sure, it's UI ain't great, but it'll do the job. BTW, avast! is FUGLY. WHY in god's name would you skin an AV app to look like an MP3 player?
To go from 20GB with Lycoris to 30GB with no OS, is the same price. Lycoris is $99. That means a 20GB with no OS would be $100.98.
BTW, did you try building your own?
Microtel SYSBB503 for Duron with CD-ROM (No OS):
1.3 GHz Duron
128MB PC133 SDRAM
40GB Ultra DMA HDD
$341.63
Microtel Windows XP PC for Duron:
1.3 GHz Duron
128MB PC133 SDRAM
40GB Ultra DMA HDD
$441.63
Of course, I could have told you that from the base prices (case, optical drive, and mobo): $168.00 for no OS, $268.00 for XP Home.
Actually, they'll cost about the same if WalMart's smart - Lindows costs $99, and WalMart sells it to the users at $99 on the box, and most whiteboxers sell XP Home for $99 on the box. Besides, some will also ask their computer guy in the family what is the best deal, and said computer guy will say the Lindows box (if it's $20 cheaper), then load either his favorite distro or a Win2K/XP CD off of Kazaa or something... Some people will also see $750 for the Lindows box, and $770 for the Windows box, and think the $750 one is a better deal (which it is, if you pirate) - and get screwed when they find out it can't run Windows software worth a shit (it's WINE, what did you expect?)...
They'll be paying $99 for Lindows (look at their Lindows vs. Lycoris boxes - for their worst config, the Lindows box costs $299, the Lycoris box costs $239, and wait! Lycoris costs $39!) and most likely LESS for Windows (if it's XP Home, most whiteboxers sell it to users for $99).
They're selling a XP-M 1600+ for $898, and that's got some features I'm sure they'd skimp on... The XP-M is a lower performance, lower cost alternative to the Pentium M at low clock speeds, and a higher performance, slightly higher cost alternative to the Pentium 4-M at high clock speeds.
If you're going to ditch the FDD, it's CD-RW. People also want to watch DVDs. Modems? Keep in mind, most people use dial-up. Windows XP? Everyone knows how to use that.
BTW, you don't have to ditch the modem or WinXP to get a 2GHz Celeron box from Dell for $800... The modem is $15 tops (it's a Conexant, after all...), and that's probably what they're paying for XP Home, too. Myself, I want a CD-RW (maybe DVD), no OS, the modem for if I'm in a hotel somewhere and need to connect, 1.3GHz Pentium M, wifi, all that good shit, and for $1000. As it is, I'm stuck paying $1220 for that, except with XP Pro (minus $279 if I do it right, though...)
They use SuSE, too. I'd personally prefer a SuSE laptop, thank you very much... BTW, Lycoris isn't TOO bad for computer newbs, but it looks like it sucks for Windows-proficient users switching to Linux. That's where SuSE fits in.
What, like Medion? I know they're a seperate company, but anyone want to bet they're under Aldi control? (BTW, their products ARE pretty cheap - $799 for a P4-2.6HT, 512MB RAM, DVDRW (forget whether it was +, -, or +-), 160GB HDD, wireless kb/mouse, then there's the USB tablet - $40 for an aiptek 12000u clone (linux drivers), and vnunet likes it) At least Medion makes stuff that's worth something (except for their first PC - only popular in Europe, but it made WAY too much noise - so much that aftermarket fan kits were made for it), unlike some of the Sam's Crap...
Hmm... NT4 acted like THAT? I know Win2K/XP automatically grabs the profile from the server, and does the merging right there. If there are conflicting files, they're taken care of on logoff with a box similar to that that you get when you copy a file to a directory that already has that file.
They offer several Lindows, Lycoris, and SuSE preloaded desktops, if you didn't know. Myself, I'd build my own, but these would be GREAT for people who want a cheap, easy, and secure box (note to WalMart - Lindows runs as root - NOT SECURE!)
What, this? OK, so it's a purse, but still...
No. She yanked HER cord out of HER jack, and looked down at her jack. He realized that she wanted him to unjack, and then jack in to her iPod, and let her jack in to his iPod. RTFA.
RTFA. It was a joke article, and it actually suggested reading "books".
I know. That's why I mentioned the 4 or 8-bitter.
Insane, though. I could build a sweet OCer, put it in my $200 fridge, cut out a hole for a touchscreen, and put it in for $1000. This is $8000.