As for long-term, we ARE thinking long-term. We're moving to metric where it makes sense, and at a sensible pace for a highly industrialized nation that has centuries invested into an older system, and an economy that utterly dwarfs those of any European nation. Try buying a new 2016-model American-made car (or any made in the last 10 years for that matter) and see how many English-sized fasteners you can find on it. There aren't any. The stuff you're complaining about is silly and inconsequential.
Oh, we forgot you're the most intelligent, knowledgeable and astute person out of all of the group. You're the leader of the world and we have to follow suit because you said so. Got it. Don't know how we missed the memos!
Just more confirmation that Windows 7 will be my last windows version, ever. When Windows 7 stops getting security updates/gets crippled by MS update I will go Ubuntu/SteamOS for my desktop and console for my gaming.
This is so sad, isn't it? Windows 7 is the most functional and best OS I've seen from MS since the beginning of their OS... OSing. Of course most all good things end with a bang. It's unfortunate I can't use my handgun to shoot software.:(
Thank you. I was sifting through legal documentation and trying to find out where I had an opportunity to work around the loosely-worded portion "... or by unreasonable use..."
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Etc. etc. Thanks.
OMG! That was me and I didn't realize it until you spelled it out right in front of me! I meant to use ^H! How in the eff I typed ^M while typing that is scary and weird. I think I need more sleep or something. Wow. Embarrassed. Thanks for pointing it out. I was wondering what in the heck the initial reply was about! lol! I use ^H for humor all the time... Wow, really, really embarrassed.
In the US at least, they cannot void the warranty for you replacing the software, it just voids the software warranty.
Must have changed. My last phone (heck, I don't even remember what it was at this point; my Nexus 6 has survived and been good for so long!) had a hardware-triggered flag it set in the base firmware that indicated that the phone had been unlocked (hence, modified from factory locked image). This couldn't be reset to look like the phone was unmodified unless you downloaded an app (at the time it was free but ended up costing a lot of money because they realized people really needed it). I don't remember the app's name, either! Ringing a bell with anyone?
I had to exchange the phone because somehow it got set to "hick mode", basically where it stayed connected to a tower for as long as possible until it absolutely couldn't anymore before trying to hop to another. It was some flaw in the hardware or the modem firmware. Not sure because a reload of ALL images on the phone didn't correct it. Note: it started doing it after visiting a relative in TN, hence "hick mode" ~= "country area with few-but-strong towers that are very far apart on mountain tops mode". That made things not work very well when I returned to my "greater-Cincinnati with lots of towers all over the freaking place" area. It would stay connected to a distant tower and even have data speeds so low it was nearly unusable for data until I moved far enough away from whatever tower that was. Then, it would connect to the nearest tower at the time, but when I returned to the area where I was (working or living) at the time, it would be back to crap data speed because I was far away from the tower I used to correct it. Weird, eh? Obviously it's a function that the cell site hardware manufacturers / Motorola / ATT / any of the two together used to auto-set phones to "hick mode" to prevent the device from constantly trying to connect to a stronger tower when out in the country where all towers were weak, relatively speaking, but the strongest of the weak could change if you move an inch in any direction (EM fields are fun). That's why I give it the strong name of "hick mode".
AT&T said they were aware of some kind of a problem that made that happen but weren't sure what exactly did it because very few phones were returned after having it happen, but all were phones that were normally in a city-type area and then traveled out to the less-populated country area, and back to city again. There was no known fix at the time. Since I had to exchange the phone for a replacement, I had to use this app to reset the "user unlocked it code" before I went in to do the exchange with a freshly-installed factory image, because warranty was voided if this code was > 00.
I wouldn't call that a software warranty, given the context. Hence, wondering where you get this term from. I'm not being an ass; please trust me. I'm just wondering.
Well, being able to access production *logs* is useful. The problem was that sensitive data was being written to those logs, not that a developer had access to them.
The cause was probably as simple as some debug code accidentally left in, but something as obvious as private data being logged should have been caught by any of the frequent security audits they claim to have.
There was an audit (this is not arguing with you, just sharing ridiculousness) I had to go through. They thought the line: 12:32:41 fin... in a log, which indicated that a process ran and said it successfully finished was a security violation, BUT the line in another log: 05/23/2016 15:21:19 Current password expired. Hint: 'Long Range'. Exchanged new password successfully.
"...[was] not at all a threat because it didn't give the full password, just like Windows can give you a clue if you forget your password. That's secure."
It was very hard for me to not ask, "Are you a Six Sigma Black Belt or...?"
No, in the end, security is a pain in someone's ass. The more important it is that $person use security measures, the more $person feels that their time is to important for all the extra steps. I've seen this at every single place I've worked, and now I see it at every single client's site.
Sorry to butt in, but I have to on this one. I was at a place where a new lawyer was getting hired. Older guy, but still...
I created a password for an account for him to use, and made it simple to remember, but hard to break. I told him, and I quote, "I created this password so it's secure enough to prevent your information from being accessed by someone internally or externally, but it's easy enough for you to remember if you just repeat it to yourself twice and look at it for about 10 seconds. Really easy one. It's: '{pass here}'*."
The FIRST thing he did was look around for a post-it note and said "I'm not gonna remember that, let me find a post-it..."
I told him that defeats the purpose of password security, and repeated how easy it is to remember if [he] just looks at it and sees that it's got little pieces that make perfect sense and are almost impossible to forget. I told him that it would be more of a pain to remember something like 'ThisIsMyPassword!1' than it is to remember [one created' one!
He said, "I'm sure no one here is going to go around looking for my post-its with my passwords on them."
I literally just did a hand-forehead slap with downward motion with simultaneous rolling eyes, turned, and walked out. It took every bit of energy I had to not blurt out, "And this is why secure legal information gets out and leaked, you #uc%ing IDIOT! Ghawd!"
I stopped buying Nexus phones a while ago when they jacked up their prices. I switched to OnePlus. It is an excellent phone with a nearly stock android experience. I am s still using the OnePlus One, and might upgrade to the OnePlus Four if they put a 4k screen on it.
My Nexus 6 is more than enough for my needs. I treat it nicely and it still looks new. If Google puts a self-destruct mechanism into unlocked bootloader Nexus 6 phones (or any other BS that encourages hardware "upgrade") and I lose this phone, I'm not getting another. I'm getting a mobile phone-phone and using a Linux-loaded tablet.
...This is no different from everyone bitching and complaining about Windows 10... the customers aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to complain and then bend over.
Speak for yourself, ankle-grabber.
Agreed. Shh.. don't tell anyone, but I'm researching a move of all users at my company to Linux with only one Windows machine for Windows-only applications we need to use for our line of work; RDP box, of course.
MS, you lost with the Windows 10 BS. Google started it, but you could have kept more business by being a pseudo-defector.
I don't think any of them are moving to iPhone. Maybe a select few will finally decide to take the CM plunge. But the rest are just going to get the new bloated-up "G" phone, and any others will just get some other Android phone...
If I were a brain at Google, it seems like a good means to a void-of-warranty excuse-maker. More may want to root and block ads or, like you said, CM-it. Either way, warranty is voided and overall cost is reduced. Plus you make a good point about adding extra crap to spy with more. I'm on the fence.
What the eff? Why is this all happening now? What's changed? Did they stop making All the Money? Are the founders going through menopause? Was Google secretly run by a group of elves whose spirit tree just died?
One word: monopoly. Best way to avoid it, have proof of things you did that negated it, so you're not the DIRECT monopoly, but still bringing in buttloads of cash.
I really liked the random unckecking of the "Supress sponsor offers when installing or updating Java" check box in the Java Control Panel after you do updates or before you do the next update (Windows releases). That was definitely my favorite little hidden feature.
Yes, I'm being a smartass, and yes, I'm serious, but not in a good way.
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Sorry, I can't view it and make sense of it. Need some weed first, I guess. I'll check it when I visit Colorado. :>
That's just asinine.
As for long-term, we ARE thinking long-term. We're moving to metric where it makes sense, and at a sensible pace for a highly industrialized nation that has centuries invested into an older system, and an economy that utterly dwarfs those of any European nation. Try buying a new 2016-model American-made car (or any made in the last 10 years for that matter) and see how many English-sized fasteners you can find on it. There aren't any. The stuff you're complaining about is silly and inconsequential.
Oh, we forgot you're the most intelligent, knowledgeable and astute person out of all of the group. You're the leader of the world and we have to follow suit because you said so. Got it. Don't know how we missed the memos!
S3, TriangleAway, yes! Thank you, Anonymous person who probably won't read this. :D
Missed it! What time point is it at?
Just more confirmation that Windows 7 will be my last windows version, ever. When Windows 7 stops getting security updates/gets crippled by MS update I will go Ubuntu/SteamOS for my desktop and console for my gaming.
This is so sad, isn't it? Windows 7 is the most functional and best OS I've seen from MS since the beginning of their OS... OSing. Of course most all good things end with a bang. It's unfortunate I can't use my handgun to shoot software. :(
I'm so suing you. :)
For replacement of your ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H???
Brain.
While researching this more, I found this article explaining the issue and reasoning:
http://motherboard.vice.com/re...
Thank you. I was sifting through legal documentation and trying to find out where I had an opportunity to work around the loosely-worded portion "... or by unreasonable use..."
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Etc. etc. Thanks.
I'm so suing you. :)
OMG! That was me and I didn't realize it until you spelled it out right in front of me! I meant to use ^H! How in the eff I typed ^M while typing that is scary and weird. I think I need more sleep or something. Wow. Embarrassed. Thanks for pointing it out. I was wondering what in the heck the initial reply was about! lol! I use ^H for humor all the time... Wow, really, really embarrassed.
In the US at least, they cannot void the warranty for you replacing the software, it just voids the software warranty.
Must have changed. My last phone (heck, I don't even remember what it was at this point; my Nexus 6 has survived and been good for so long!) had a hardware-triggered flag it set in the base firmware that indicated that the phone had been unlocked (hence, modified from factory locked image). This couldn't be reset to look like the phone was unmodified unless you downloaded an app (at the time it was free but ended up costing a lot of money because they realized people really needed it). I don't remember the app's name, either! Ringing a bell with anyone?
I had to exchange the phone because somehow it got set to "hick mode", basically where it stayed connected to a tower for as long as possible until it absolutely couldn't anymore before trying to hop to another. It was some flaw in the hardware or the modem firmware. Not sure because a reload of ALL images on the phone didn't correct it. Note: it started doing it after visiting a relative in TN, hence "hick mode" ~= "country area with few-but-strong towers that are very far apart on mountain tops mode". That made things not work very well when I returned to my "greater-Cincinnati with lots of towers all over the freaking place" area. It would stay connected to a distant tower and even have data speeds so low it was nearly unusable for data until I moved far enough away from whatever tower that was. Then, it would connect to the nearest tower at the time, but when I returned to the area where I was (working or living) at the time, it would be back to crap data speed because I was far away from the tower I used to correct it. Weird, eh? Obviously it's a function that the cell site hardware manufacturers / Motorola / ATT / any of the two together used to auto-set phones to "hick mode" to prevent the device from constantly trying to connect to a stronger tower when out in the country where all towers were weak, relatively speaking, but the strongest of the weak could change if you move an inch in any direction (EM fields are fun). That's why I give it the strong name of "hick mode".
AT&T said they were aware of some kind of a problem that made that happen but weren't sure what exactly did it because very few phones were returned after having it happen, but all were phones that were normally in a city-type area and then traveled out to the less-populated country area, and back to city again. There was no known fix at the time. Since I had to exchange the phone for a replacement, I had to use this app to reset the "user unlocked it code" before I went in to do the exchange with a freshly-installed factory image, because warranty was voided if this code was > 00.
I wouldn't call that a software warranty, given the context. Hence, wondering where you get this term from. I'm not being an ass; please trust me. I'm just wondering.
Well, being able to access production *logs* is useful. The problem was that sensitive data was being written to those logs, not that a developer had access to them.
The cause was probably as simple as some debug code accidentally left in, but something as obvious as private data being logged should have been caught by any of the frequent security audits they claim to have.
There was an audit (this is not arguing with you, just sharing ridiculousness) I had to go through. They thought the line: .. in a log, which indicated that a process ran and said it successfully finished was a security violation, BUT the line in another log:
12:32:41 fin.
05/23/2016 15:21:19 Current password expired. Hint: 'Long Range'. Exchanged new password successfully.
"...[was] not at all a threat because it didn't give the full password, just like Windows can give you a clue if you forget your password. That's secure."
It was very hard for me to not ask, "Are you a Six Sigma Black Belt or...?"
How come a company with business based on being secure allows employee logins to access production data?
"Uhhh... LOOK AT THAT OMG OMG!"
*silent run*
No, in the end, security is a pain in someone's ass. The more important it is that $person use security measures, the more $person feels that their time is to important for all the extra steps. I've seen this at every single place I've worked, and now I see it at every single client's site.
Sorry to butt in, but I have to on this one. I was at a place where a new lawyer was getting hired. Older guy, but still...
I created a password for an account for him to use, and made it simple to remember, but hard to break. I told him, and I quote, "I created this password so it's secure enough to prevent your information from being accessed by someone internally or externally, but it's easy enough for you to remember if you just repeat it to yourself twice and look at it for about 10 seconds. Really easy one. It's: '{pass here}'*."
The FIRST thing he did was look around for a post-it note and said "I'm not gonna remember that, let me find a post-it..."
I told him that defeats the purpose of password security, and repeated how easy it is to remember if [he] just looks at it and sees that it's got little pieces that make perfect sense and are almost impossible to forget. I told him that it would be more of a pain to remember something like 'ThisIsMyPassword!1' than it is to remember [one created' one!
He said, "I'm sure no one here is going to go around looking for my post-its with my passwords on them."
I literally just did a hand-forehead slap with downward motion with simultaneous rolling eyes, turned, and walked out. It took every bit of energy I had to not blurt out, "And this is why secure legal information gets out and leaked, you #uc%ing IDIOT! Ghawd!"
* Placeholder, not literal.
where are your eggs?
In stupid. :>
That's it, I'm going back to putting passwords on post-it notes with ROT-26. Inside jobs are easier to prosecute, after all.
That's incredibly insecure. You should use a minimum; ABSOLUTE MINIMUM of ROT-104!
Where are teh securities going these days? Sigh.
Heh :>
You're joking, right?
I stopped buying Nexus phones a while ago when they jacked up their prices. I switched to OnePlus. It is an excellent phone with a nearly stock android experience. I am s still using the OnePlus One, and might upgrade to the OnePlus Four if they put a 4k screen on it.
My Nexus 6 is more than enough for my needs. I treat it nicely and it still looks new. If Google puts a self-destruct mechanism into unlocked bootloader Nexus 6 phones (or any other BS that encourages hardware "upgrade") and I lose this phone, I'm not getting another. I'm getting a mobile phone-phone and using a Linux-loaded tablet.
...This is no different from everyone bitching and complaining about Windows 10... the customers aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to complain and then bend over.
Speak for yourself, ankle-grabber.
Agreed. Shh.. don't tell anyone, but I'm researching a move of all users at my company to Linux with only one Windows machine for Windows-only applications we need to use for our line of work; RDP box, of course.
MS, you lost with the Windows 10 BS. Google started it, but you could have kept more business by being a pseudo-defector.
...So what are these people going to do?
I don't think any of them are moving to iPhone. Maybe a select few will finally decide to take the CM plunge. But the rest are just going to get the new bloated-up "G" phone, and any others will just get some other Android phone...
If I were a brain at Google, it seems like a good means to a void-of-warranty excuse-maker. More may want to root and block ads or, like you said, CM-it. Either way, warranty is voided and overall cost is reduced. Plus you make a good point about adding extra crap to spy with more. I'm on the fence.
"We want to load up our devices with even more shit that nobody wants or needs, and make it even harder for you to remove it."
Don't be evil my ass.
But Judge, EVERYBODY'S doing it! Waaaah
What the eff? Why is this all happening now? What's changed? Did they stop making All the Money? Are the founders going through menopause? Was Google secretly run by a group of elves whose spirit tree just died?
One word: monopoly.
Best way to avoid it, have proof of things you did that negated it, so you're not the DIRECT monopoly, but still bringing in buttloads of cash.
I really liked the random unckecking of the "Supress sponsor offers when installing or updating Java" check box in the Java Control Panel after you do updates or before you do the next update (Windows releases). That was definitely my favorite little hidden feature.
Yes, I'm being a smartass, and yes, I'm serious, but not in a good way.
Excellent. Exactly what we, the hackers, wanted. Now we can watch all of the users reset their passwords with the keylogger we inserted years ago.
Eeeeexcellent. Smithers, release the activation metadata!
The transmission only goes in one direction... forward.
Driving in reverse, similar to right clicking on a mouse is too difficult for new drivers to learn.
Without Jobs, it'll never fly. No, literally, it flies, but only if you're hip'n'cool enough to know that.
*ducks*
Ya because corporations are just in business hoping to get bought by Microsoft.
Made a little correction for ya.