I hate to ask, but did your doctor pull one of the "Yes, I considered that as a possibility but didn't have enough information to work with" gigs or were they actually pleased that a solution was reached?:)
No. They are just being wordy that if the US threatens to attack, they will attack first. Plus, we have the tools to detect incoming crap before it gets near us. Then, we will act.
The unfortunate fact is that "the law" goes after those who aren't bringing in money to compensate for their breaking of law, like GoogleTube.
Not to get off-topic, but what I fail to understand is how the "infringer" who downloads stuff to see/listen to/use/experiment with before purchasing it and recommending it to friends is any different. They are buying; you suing them and landing them in jail and/or removing all of the money from their dispensable cash flow is halting your profit.
The case included hacking charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act that was passed in 1984 to enhance the government's ability to
... be so overly vague as to make anyone who uses a computer for any reason, by any method, a felon? Because that act is the quintessential example of how not to do it, and it's quoted by law professors all over the country as a shining example of the problems caused by strict liability laws.
You know, I've always wondered how many misdemeanors and felonies I've committed without any knowledge of having done so. I'm not being an ass; I'm serious. If you go through the laws in every state, as well as federal, with a fine tooth comb, I'm sure there is something that everyone has done with absolutely no idea they were doing it any where no one else knew or cared.
Just something to think about to keep the head a'spinnin'.
They said that if the US is about to start a nuclear war they reserve the right to make a pre-emptive strike, just like all nuclear armed countries do. There is no threat of action, merely a warning to the US that NK will defend itself.
So what they really said was, "we're going to do what anyone else would do...?"
If that's the case, the news is looking for garbage to release because dramatic effect stories are a bit on the slow side.
...I'm cursed, women want me in bed and, it seems, hell as well...
I hear that. I'm in the same boat. I used to favor gratification over punishment but nowadays, I'd rather be single. I kinda switched to single guy mode at about 29 years old (33 now).
Where is the Christian spirit of forgiveness, the very cornerstone of Christianity?
Oh, you only get that when the individual sees fit. See, that's how they're raised. They believe that what they were taught is the ultimate "right" and anything else is the ultimate "wrong." However, when they get positive feedback like MONEY or SEX, that's "okay" in almost every circumstance. Their brains are also really good at twisting the facts around to make it look like they are in the right because of "X part of the Bible" or "experience with the church."
Mormons, don't get me started there. I had a friend when I was in my teens whose mother was devout, sister was nicely brainwashed by mom, and he himself played the game but believed that he didn't have to live a "life like that." Then, one day, mom told him he would get a car when he turned 16 if he got rid of his atheist and agnostic friends. Oh, guess what he did; GUESS. I'm feeling rage so I'd better think about happy stuff now.
If memory serves, the prohibition on materials protected by copyright is on the distributor of said materials. In the same way I'd get in trouble for publishing unauthorized copies of a famous book that was not in the public domain, I'd get in trouble from distributing unauthorized copies of copyrighted digital media.
The 6-strikes law turns that on its head, and is incompatible with copyright law as we know it (don't get me started on the DMCA). The 35 dollar fee collected not by the judiciary, but commercial entities that provide access to a worldwide network, is just a cherry of aggravation on top of a sundae of stupidity.
The complainers are asking that first, the appropriate entities be addressed (i.e. those distributing the files rather than those obtaining them) and second, that there be something remotely resembling due process (that thing where you're accused, can get legal counsel, might have a trial, etc) before any discussion of a fine.
Right on... What are they getting from this stupid appeal process? Do they then send a notification back to the originating reporter that says, "[so-and-so] wishes to appeal. Should we send them another notice now with another appeal offering that you'll get 50% of, or would you like to take over the threat process?"
Oh, crap. I just mentioned the behind-the-scenes sharing of money. Could the appeal money possibly just go right to the copyright holder (certain percentage) to compensate them in a different manner than getting paid by the consumer for a product? Now I'm just rambling conspiracy theory. Psh. That could never happen, right?;)
...And, more importantly, whether an appeal will do anything at all in the first place.
Right on. That's what I've been wondering since this garbage started. What exactly is the appeal going to do?
Do they say, "Okay, we need more evidence to clear you now so let's have police seize your computer for inspection?"
Maybe, "Okay, your appeal is in process"...... *a year later* "...still in process."
Perchance, is it, "Your appeal has been investigated and there is insufficient information to continue this cla... Oh, wait a second.. You just got hit with another notice! Would you like to pay your second appeal fee now or tomorrow?"
Who the FUCK delegated law enforcement to private corporations? I don't care if it's an industry association made up of shysters and leeches, like *IAA, or telco cartels. If they want to be cops, they will be treated like cops.
That aint' pretty, from the customer market angle.
It's just a scare tactic. They've found that there's no way to handle all of the shit they disagree with so they'll just come up with a scare program to keep people from doing it. Trying to look like some sort of legal arbitration entity is just one way they're going to try before they finally evolve. Fucking bill pounders.
Time Warner is one of two providers in my area. If I *EVER* get shit from them (especially considering how much I pay every month), it's their loss.
I bought some tires for my car and they came with locking lug-nuts. The lug-nuts are weird in that, once fastened, nobody can undo them except for the tire manufacturer. If I want to use the tires on another car, I have to call them and they will allow me to move the tires to a different vehicle.
And I would choose to buy these tires why?
It guarantees that your tires are "Genuine". They haven't been secretly swapped with other tires with similar names or have shoddy workmanship. They are 100% unquestionably AwesomeTires(r)(sm).
I'm a Christian, but the US is in no way a Christain nation. For what it;s worth, I have no trouble with gays except for the "ick" factor; what you do is none of my business. Hell, I'm a fan of Queen. I'm friends with gays, atheists, hell, at least one murderer.
I wouldn't be aghast if Richard Dawkins penned it, why is someone so up in arms about an openly anti-gay guy? He's entitled to his opinion. This looks like a McCarthy-style witch hunt, back in the day that gays had to hide. If I were gay, I'd be as outraged that this guy would be treated like gays used to be.
Hatred comes from lack of understanding. Lack of understanding comes from laziness, fear, or shelter from fact. If he doesn't understand this concept and isn't brave enough to ask questions, hell...
Regardless, there is always the possibility of deep denial. The person who screams "I'M NOT GAY" usually is. South Park covered that, if I recall correctly.;)
Where are the environmentalists who should be protesting the increase in the use of resources, especially petroleum products, that will be required when all these employees return to an office? Especially when many of them took the job under the betrayed promise that they would not have to often commute to an office that was perhaps an hour or more away?
...and hey, in an at-will employment state, that's a perfectly "good'n'green" reason to let people go. Good way to get employees to walk away fucked without unemployment.
Wait, if some are leaving early and the others are arriving late, there wouldn't be any crossover. There'd be big empty gaps and they'd never run into each other on their way in/out.
"Will code for food" so says the sign the man on the corner street is holding. While a line of college students outside of Yahoo are saying "I will pay YOU just to work there for experience and references". Ok, not that bad -yet-. Getting there though.
Oh, I'm sure he'll get a job once new news covers the "mysterious jobless guy on the street with the best sign-making artistic skills ever seen"./sarcasm
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Hey, where did all of those people who say anonymity on the Internet isn't necessary run off to?
I'm sorry, could you repeat your question? I couldn't make it out with the extreme echo in the room...
That's not a valid IPv6 address. Remember, an address does have to be hex.
But here are my IP addresses - 192.168.10.106 for IPv4, or fe80::1c98:3703:3f57:f595%16 for IPv6. Have fun!
Okay fine, I'll hex it. beef::cafe:fa65:1410:face
Directed at Prenda, not you, kind sir. :)
I hate to ask, but did your doctor pull one of the "Yes, I considered that as a possibility but didn't have enough information to work with" gigs or were they actually pleased that a solution was reached? :)
Kind of hard to say "you attacked first!" when you're dead.
Yeah... The missile monitor telemetry in place has no effect. Lol
No. They are just being wordy that if the US threatens to attack, they will attack first. Plus, we have the tools to detect incoming crap before it gets near us. Then, we will act.
Let me know when the government and military agree to act on that.
You make a very good point.
The unfortunate fact is that "the law" goes after those who aren't bringing in money to compensate for their breaking of law, like GoogleTube.
Not to get off-topic, but what I fail to understand is how the "infringer" who downloads stuff to see/listen to/use/experiment with before purchasing it and recommending it to friends is any different. They are buying; you suing them and landing them in jail and/or removing all of the money from their dispensable cash flow is halting your profit.
Just... thinking about this hurts. It's stupid.
The case included hacking charges under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act that was passed in 1984 to enhance the government's ability to
... be so overly vague as to make anyone who uses a computer for any reason, by any method, a felon? Because that act is the quintessential example of how not to do it, and it's quoted by law professors all over the country as a shining example of the problems caused by strict liability laws.
You know, I've always wondered how many misdemeanors and felonies I've committed without any knowledge of having done so. I'm not being an ass; I'm serious. If you go through the laws in every state, as well as federal, with a fine tooth comb, I'm sure there is something that everyone has done with absolutely no idea they were doing it any where no one else knew or cared.
Just something to think about to keep the head a'spinnin'.
How long will it take before an 'unfortunate accident' at one of these nuclear sites makes an end to their aspirations?
Perhaps it already has... ;)
They said that if the US is about to start a nuclear war they reserve the right to make a pre-emptive strike, just like all nuclear armed countries do. There is no threat of action, merely a warning to the US that NK will defend itself.
So what they really said was, "we're going to do what anyone else would do...?"
If that's the case, the news is looking for garbage to release because dramatic effect stories are a bit on the slow side.
Wow, that's so easy! I hope you become general!
Yeah, that's a great idea. Attack them only when they're threatening with words so they have an excuse to say "YOU ATTACKED FIRST".
Snap out of video game world and think about real life logic, please, when it comes to war.
Does this sound like nothing but an attempt to get someone else to "throw the first punch so [North Korea] have an excuse"?
Will this work properly in Lynx? Or do I need to file a complaint about cross browser support?
You can file if you can tolerate a complete lack of response. :)
...I'm cursed, women want me in bed and, it seems, hell as well...
I hear that. I'm in the same boat. I used to favor gratification over punishment but nowadays, I'd rather be single. I kinda switched to single guy mode at about 29 years old (33 now).
Where is the Christian spirit of forgiveness, the very cornerstone of Christianity?
Oh, you only get that when the individual sees fit. See, that's how they're raised. They believe that what they were taught is the ultimate "right" and anything else is the ultimate "wrong." However, when they get positive feedback like MONEY or SEX, that's "okay" in almost every circumstance. Their brains are also really good at twisting the facts around to make it look like they are in the right because of "X part of the Bible" or "experience with the church."
Mormons, don't get me started there. I had a friend when I was in my teens whose mother was devout, sister was nicely brainwashed by mom, and he himself played the game but believed that he didn't have to live a "life like that." Then, one day, mom told him he would get a car when he turned 16 if he got rid of his atheist and agnostic friends. Oh, guess what he did; GUESS. I'm feeling rage so I'd better think about happy stuff now.
If memory serves, the prohibition on materials protected by copyright is on the distributor of said materials. In the same way I'd get in trouble for publishing unauthorized copies of a famous book that was not in the public domain, I'd get in trouble from distributing unauthorized copies of copyrighted digital media.
The 6-strikes law turns that on its head, and is incompatible with copyright law as we know it (don't get me started on the DMCA). The 35 dollar fee collected not by the judiciary, but commercial entities that provide access to a worldwide network, is just a cherry of aggravation on top of a sundae of stupidity.
The complainers are asking that first, the appropriate entities be addressed (i.e. those distributing the files rather than those obtaining them) and second, that there be something remotely resembling due process (that thing where you're accused, can get legal counsel, might have a trial, etc) before any discussion of a fine.
Right on... What are they getting from this stupid appeal process? Do they then send a notification back to the originating reporter that says, "[so-and-so] wishes to appeal. Should we send them another notice now with another appeal offering that you'll get 50% of, or would you like to take over the threat process?"
Oh, crap. I just mentioned the behind-the-scenes sharing of money. Could the appeal money possibly just go right to the copyright holder (certain percentage) to compensate them in a different manner than getting paid by the consumer for a product? Now I'm just rambling conspiracy theory. Psh. That could never happen, right? ;)
...And, more importantly, whether an appeal will do anything at all in the first place.
Right on. That's what I've been wondering since this garbage started. What exactly is the appeal going to do?
Do they say, "Okay, we need more evidence to clear you now so let's have police seize your computer for inspection?"
Maybe, "Okay, your appeal is in process"...... *a year later* "...still in process."
Perchance, is it, "Your appeal has been investigated and there is insufficient information to continue this cla... Oh, wait a second.. You just got hit with another notice! Would you like to pay your second appeal fee now or tomorrow?"
Who the FUCK delegated law enforcement to private corporations? I don't care if it's an industry association made up of shysters and leeches, like *IAA, or telco cartels. If they want to be cops, they will be treated like cops.
That aint' pretty, from the customer market angle.
It's just a scare tactic. They've found that there's no way to handle all of the shit they disagree with so they'll just come up with a scare program to keep people from doing it. Trying to look like some sort of legal arbitration entity is just one way they're going to try before they finally evolve. Fucking bill pounders.
Time Warner is one of two providers in my area. If I *EVER* get shit from them (especially considering how much I pay every month), it's their loss.
No. "Patriotic" now means "sitting down and shutting up, unless you're cheering the government."
Wait, don't they do that sort of thing in Chi :)
AAAAAH, almost got me to say it. You sneaky Fjandr, you.
I bought some tires for my car and they came with locking lug-nuts. The lug-nuts are weird in that, once fastened, nobody can undo them except for the tire manufacturer. If I want to use the tires on another car, I have to call them and they will allow me to move the tires to a different vehicle.
And I would choose to buy these tires why?
It guarantees that your tires are "Genuine". They haven't been secretly swapped with other tires with similar names or have shoddy workmanship. They are 100% unquestionably AwesomeTires(r)(sm).
Get a license to practice law in CA, because the shit's about to hit the fan with bandwidth abusers with a refusal to pay. Ingeniously profitable!
I'm a Christian, but the US is in no way a Christain nation. For what it;s worth, I have no trouble with gays except for the "ick" factor; what you do is none of my business. Hell, I'm a fan of Queen. I'm friends with gays, atheists, hell, at least one murderer.
I wouldn't be aghast if Richard Dawkins penned it, why is someone so up in arms about an openly anti-gay guy? He's entitled to his opinion. This looks like a McCarthy-style witch hunt, back in the day that gays had to hide. If I were gay, I'd be as outraged that this guy would be treated like gays used to be.
Hatred comes from lack of understanding. Lack of understanding comes from laziness, fear, or shelter from fact. If he doesn't understand this concept and isn't brave enough to ask questions, hell...
Regardless, there is always the possibility of deep denial. The person who screams "I'M NOT GAY" usually is. South Park covered that, if I recall correctly. ;)
I'm JUST sayin'.
Where are the environmentalists who should be protesting the increase in the use of resources, especially petroleum products, that will be required when all these employees return to an office? Especially when many of them took the job under the betrayed promise that they would not have to often commute to an office that was perhaps an hour or more away?
...and hey, in an at-will employment state, that's a perfectly "good'n'green" reason to let people go. Good way to get employees to walk away fucked without unemployment.
Wait, if some are leaving early and the others are arriving late, there wouldn't be any crossover. There'd be big empty gaps and they'd never run into each other on their way in/out.
Or . . . wait, was that the joke? :D
Car joke; I get it now. Ha. :>
Choose color of tape. No wonder they make the big bucks.
The irony is, both executives were color blind.
...and forgot it was them who came up with the last tape idea. You know, golf really fucks up your short-long term memory conversion. ;)
"Will code for food" so says the sign the man on the corner street is holding. While a line of college students outside of Yahoo are saying "I will pay YOU just to work there for experience and references". Ok, not that bad -yet-. Getting there though.
Oh, I'm sure he'll get a job once new news covers the "mysterious jobless guy on the street with the best sign-making artistic skills ever seen". /sarcasm