The problem is that most people will only spend money when it is convenient to do so. The music industry hasn't twigged to the fact that it's just as easy to download music as warez as it was five-ten years ago, if not easier. They haven't twigged to the fact that it is a lot harder to buy music from stores and use it the way you want. They haven't twigged to the fact that you're getting a better product from warez than what you get from buying it from a shop or buying it from iTunes. Unfortunately for them, we have.
It's much easier to tell people to write in a couple of commands than it is to tell someone how to set their card to record the playback of the computer.
hmm, I've been explained that that's wrong, though I'm not totally sure if the explainer is wrong or not.
Anyway, you can't get a new license just by downloading a new version, because you agree to the license by distributing it, so you can only ever get one "copy" of the license for that code. If your rights under that license is terminated then unless that specific developer explicitly gives you a new license or renews the terms of that license you can never distribute that code again.
But anyway it's a null argument because they have already broken the law by selling the code without any valid license for this.
Not at all! I'm about to go and patent intersteller travel and quantum computing. I did physics in high school, so I figure I'm expert enough to get a patent. I'll get it eventually, or at least someone will.
Don't worry, it's America. Get a few billion dollars behind you and you can get away with anything.
4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance. (copy-pasted from another post)
They have violated the GPL, and thus their rights under the GPL are viod - they can't distribute the program no matter what. That is my interpretation at least.
Can they just open source their "project" now? Is it not too late? Hasn't several developers permanantly revoked the GPL license from CherryOS so they can never use their code?
It's not quite about Microsoft vs. Symbian to most people here. Most people take the piss out of Microsoft because it's sooo easy to do, but actually have no real grudge against them.
I think looking at this case Microsoft scores really big here. Microsoft don't have a good track record but really there's no excuse for a security hole as bad as this. If you grab input from another computer you secure yourself against it as much as possible, including and especially wireless technology, as you can't verify that the person on the other end is a nice guy.
Perhaps some of the Symbian engineers need to go back to Software Engineering first year and retake some (admittedly boring) but needed classes.
There was a time when a virus could install itself just be latching onto a 3.5" disk boot sector and infect tons of machines without anyone having the slightest clue as to its existence.
That brings back horrific memories. I remember my brother tried to install doom off a disk borrowed off his friend. The friend had a virus -> the disk had a virus -> our computer had a virus.
It took us hours to even realise it existed, wondering wtf was happening to our computer. In the end we completely formatted our hard drive, reinstalled dos from 6 floppy disks and then my brother, being the bright spark that he is, reinstalled doom...
So what? I find it very doubtful that people would be using it because of a comic that was around a while before the internet became popular. The joke was a classic line in the Simpsons, after the airing of which people started using it.
you've also got "you insensitive clod", which comes from the lisa tapdancing episode of The Simpsons. "I call shinanigans" which comes from the cow carnival episode of South Park. "In Soviet Russia _____ You!" which comes from an old quote from some obscure American senator "in capitalist America, you find a party. In Soviet Russia, the Party finds you!" Any others?
The most brilliant one in my opinion is Jason from 2001. In the author's words it's 'downright chatty for only having two string literals ("%d \n" and "Y\n : !,.?>")'
The thing is I know theoretically how the program does it, but I just don't know how he wrote it!
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"Hey bob - how come you always arrive at exactly the same time as the train?"
Triple J
Triple M
ABC Radio
And that's just the first three radio stations I could think of in my home city of Sydney.
So when do we get mounted guns?
They were going to make a movie out of Mort? Done well that'd make a hell of a movie!
Though taking out Death would be like taking Ford Prefect out of HHGTTG
Haven't they already said that several times? Someone at dell might just really hate AMD enough to play games with them.
Exactly.
The problem is that most people will only spend money when it is convenient to do so. The music industry hasn't twigged to the fact that it's just as easy to download music as warez as it was five-ten years ago, if not easier. They haven't twigged to the fact that it is a lot harder to buy music from stores and use it the way you want . They haven't twigged to the fact that you're getting a better product from warez than what you get from buying it from a shop or buying it from iTunes. Unfortunately for them, we have.
The geek version of penis envy.
You know, however, that it's all just a hoax to make pancakes tax deductable...
It's much easier to tell people to write in a couple of commands than it is to tell someone how to set their card to record the playback of the computer.
hmm, I've been explained that that's wrong, though I'm not totally sure if the explainer is wrong or not.
Anyway, you can't get a new license just by downloading a new version, because you agree to the license by distributing it, so you can only ever get one "copy" of the license for that code. If your rights under that license is terminated then unless that specific developer explicitly gives you a new license or renews the terms of that license you can never distribute that code again.
But anyway it's a null argument because they have already broken the law by selling the code without any valid license for this.
Not at all! I'm about to go and patent intersteller travel and quantum computing. I did physics in high school, so I figure I'm expert enough to get a patent. I'll get it eventually, or at least someone will.
Don't worry, it's America. Get a few billion dollars behind you and you can get away with anything.
Quite obviously you did:
4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance. (copy-pasted from another post)
They have violated the GPL, and thus their rights under the GPL are viod - they can't distribute the program no matter what. That is my interpretation at least.
Can they just open source their "project" now? Is it not too late? Hasn't several developers permanantly revoked the GPL license from CherryOS so they can never use their code?
"Theeee Siiimpss... Buffering"
Well shit.
no, using the example above, I think it would be |^0|2|.
It's not quite about Microsoft vs. Symbian to most people here. Most people take the piss out of Microsoft because it's sooo easy to do, but actually have no real grudge against them.
I think looking at this case Microsoft scores really big here. Microsoft don't have a good track record but really there's no excuse for a security hole as bad as this. If you grab input from another computer you secure yourself against it as much as possible, including and especially wireless technology, as you can't verify that the person on the other end is a nice guy.
Perhaps some of the Symbian engineers need to go back to Software Engineering first year and retake some (admittedly boring) but needed classes.
It took us hours to even realise it existed, wondering wtf was happening to our computer. In the end we completely formatted our hard drive, reinstalled dos from 6 floppy disks and then my brother, being the bright spark that he is, reinstalled doom...
Australian TV stations now tend to cut off the last five seconds or more before ad breaks to fit in another ad or two.
Australian TV is truly horrific.
because, in my true realist self, even if they did that Longhorn wouldn't be out until 2015 at the earliest.
we can now say "finally Windows has caught up with Linux".
Cue the candid laughter everyone.
So what? I find it very doubtful that people would be using it because of a comic that was around a while before the internet became popular. The joke was a classic line in the Simpsons, after the airing of which people started using it.
you've also got "you insensitive clod", which comes from the lisa tapdancing episode of The Simpsons. "I call shinanigans" which comes from the cow carnival episode of South Park. "In Soviet Russia _____ You!" which comes from an old quote from some obscure American senator "in capitalist America, you find a party. In Soviet Russia, the Party finds you!" Any others?
"holy shit there's an alien over there!"
we do...
The most brilliant one in my opinion is Jason from 2001. In the author's words it's 'downright chatty for only having two string literals ("%d \n" and "Y\n : ! ,.?>")'
The thing is I know theoretically how the program does it, but I just don't know how he wrote it!