It is clear that it is obviously illegal the minute you find out that it is. As you now have found out that the site has no license to operate outside of Russia, then the action is obviously illegal to you. Note: Russian law clearly does apply to you! Try mailing a letter bomb to yeltsin and see if anybody minds.
It has not been found legal by Russia, though it is being tested in court. This has not finished so it currently is not illegal. Searching for "allofmp3 legal" on google gives a list of sites saying how allofmp3 is legal for overseas downloaders. Russian law does not apply for him, unless there are extradition treaties specifically calling for the extradition of a citizen for that specific law. If your government doesn't want to punish you for sending a letter bomb to former Russian presidents then unless Russia invades nothing will happen. It is obviously not the case that for copyright infringements a german citizen can be extradited because of Russian Law. If overseas law applied, then his copying songs of friends would be illegal because of American law. Fortunately it does not.
Finally I don't see how the basic principal between stealing from a supermarket and this case is the same. In fact your analogy would be more accurate if you accused someone of stealing for going to another supermarket with cheaper prices. Allofmp3 gives money to the copyright holders.
not sure forwarding it to police.gov is a good idea, simply because police.gov doesn't exist, and if it did it would be an american site. Probably forwarding it to the federal police at http://www.afp.gov.au/ would be better.
AllOfMP3 isn't cheap by russian standards, and there doesn't seem to be anything stopping people exporting the songs. I'm wondering what will gome of this, since it isn't clear cut.
I must admit I laughed for quite a while seeing how, claiming a up and coming "death" for SpreadFirefox you linked to a page talking about how they had temporary downtime because they had to upgrade their servers because of overwhelming popularity.
I can't think of a single company who wouldn't want to die that way!
What I do know is that none of those 13+ organizations you rattled off has been able to stop genocide in Yugoslavia or Rwanda nor have they been able to prevent the UN from being a money launderer for Saddam.
And they didn't stop the tsunami disaster - that should have been preemtively prevented like America preemted Iraq using WMDs. And of course they should have moved in right away when GWB got reelected.
But tell me, wtf does that have to do with the bloody governmence of the internet?
Ahem. That's why it says "Remember Pong". The word 'remember' means that you've heard of it before. If it expected to be telling people about this cool game a long time ago called Pong it would have said "A long time ago there was this cool game called pong, the first and simplest of video games, which opened up the door to a fascinating new frontier in gaming".
why on earth will they download IE or outlook express, or WMP? Definitely WMP is absolutely worthless on linux, since it can't play anything mplayer can't.
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mmm. As an "educated" guy, I find that the only appeal of Dan Brown is his layer of mystique over what is really just a badly written book.
Technically, Mr. Gates is right. The whole Open Source idea is a communist idea, not in terms of Soviet Russia (where software owns you) but in terms of a community of workers all banding together to produce their own labor, instead of selling themselves to the capitalists.
That's socialism, and communism is a subset of socialism - they're not synonyms. Though RMS could be called a socialist, he is quite simply not a communist, and Open Source most definitely is not a communist idea (at least not a Marxist, Leninist or Stalinist idea).
Because I don't have enough time, I'll just sum up my argument!
1. Communism is on the whole quite anti-capitalist. It cannot coexist with capatilist ideals, communist ideas on the whole seek to break down an economy.
2. Communism doesn't seek to treat everyone the same way. The people with more ability get preference. It's like saying "You're a good programmer, therefore you get all of the code. Sorry mate, you're not so good, you only get the OSS drivers."
3. Open Source software in the most part tries to boost up a capatilist society rather than shun it. By having people share code it enables them to give a better product. For example, RMS himself (I think, I hope I'm not mis-quoting) is quoted as saying somewhere that Game Engines should be open source, but the Games themselves shouldn't. The theory is that being able to not re-invent the wheel and to speed up the development and lower the costs in terms of the engine, they could make a better game for a better price.
I'd go on further, but you're probably tired of reading my argument. I've probably missed a few of my points anyway. This is only my interpretation.
I think one of the major barriers to PSP is that it is too cheap, and because of this it isn't really a competitor to photoshop - pros will pay for photoshop because it's just a drop in a bucket, and newbies will just pirate photoshop. They need to put up a serious case for pros on why they should buy this instead of photoshop.
However this is a different case, even though I'm wondering the same thing. When people choose an operating system, they think "I'm stuck with this for a while aren't I?" They are more likely to dish out an extra bit of money for the "better" (which really means more expensive) Windows op system. If they made lindows just ever so slightly smaller price then more people they will pull into comparing the two as equal competitors. Stress on user friendliness and the huge app stack that comes with it, and Lindows may just win that comparison.
And they need to spread, spread, spread. Put it everywhere.
This is how you get cheap mod points: Google for something like this, see exactly the same post +5 in another slashdot blog and copy the comment in reply that got +5. Since it's only a few days ago you may assume it's still relevant. The other person, of course, will be more funny than you will ever be.
What about the VMS fanboy, we wear cardigans, hush puppies, tweed hats and smoke pipes. We don't normally "shop" but when the leather elbow patches can no longer hang on or the felt is just too floppy, we vist the church op-shop. We always have a pencil and pad in our pocket and a small cylindrical slide rule for a quick estimate. Tuesday trivia night is our social highlight of week and the hot chocolate and lamingtons are wonderfull. We have wives but have grown to realise sex is really just another sports activity and would much rather play with the train set in the shed.
Creds go to TapeCutter. Soon you shall actually find out who or what VMS is...
I wonder with Linspire the same thing I wonder about Paint Shop Pro. If they actually increased the price of Linspire to something only just lower (about five dollars) than Windows XP Home Ed., bundling the extras in, putting it in a pretty box in as many stores as they can (department stores, gaming stores, supermarkets even if they can), and releasing a discounted OEM version, then it might be even more successful. Right now it looks like a cheap Windows knockoff (cause basically that's what it is). If they started to project the same or similar image as Windows, projecting an image of superiority at a better price then people may consider it side by side with Windows very seriously indeed.
People automatically assume you get what you pay for, even when a lot of the time that's completely false. An OS is a big important tool, and people are probably going to be careful. If they raise the price, I think people would take it more seriously, Linspire will make huge amounts of money and hopefully give back to linux, and linux would gain popularity as a result.
See how big that railway system is and see what it does: calculates 1 + 1. Besides the fact that you'd need underlying mechanics to control the other model railroad, it'll also be absolutely enormous and as slow as hell. Just think of how long one train would take to calculate one instruction using that thing, and think of how many instructions required... which would be a hell of a lot.
So if someone says that they are downloading Firefox, they can just get a certificate, say it's from the "Firefox Foundation" (a mythical yet believable organization) downloading a program called "Firefox Browser", and most people would click yes. This defeats the whole purpose of having certificates to prove the content is from who it claims to be, when you can just lie about it!
Tell me then, what's the point of having a certificate when you can get it under any name you want, for any (possibly) malicious piece of software? If it doesn't give any indication of being trust worthy at all then it's absolutely worthless!
It's ironic that a Microsoft representative a little while ago criticising Firefox not paying for a certificate for the download. What is to stop someone registering "Firefox Browser" or "Click Yes to Download" instead? Certificates when they are so easily abused like this are only detremental - they create a fake level of trust.
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Perhaps you should go and get the facts about Microsoft's relationship with linux.
It is clear that it is obviously illegal the minute you find out that it is. As you now have found out that the site has no license to operate outside of Russia, then the action is obviously illegal to you. Note: Russian law clearly does apply to you! Try mailing a letter bomb to yeltsin and see if anybody minds.
It has not been found legal by Russia, though it is being tested in court. This has not finished so it currently is not illegal. Searching for "allofmp3 legal" on google gives a list of sites saying how allofmp3 is legal for overseas downloaders. Russian law does not apply for him, unless there are extradition treaties specifically calling for the extradition of a citizen for that specific law. If your government doesn't want to punish you for sending a letter bomb to former Russian presidents then unless Russia invades nothing will happen. It is obviously not the case that for copyright infringements a german citizen can be extradited because of Russian Law. If overseas law applied, then his copying songs of friends would be illegal because of American law. Fortunately it does not.
Finally I don't see how the basic principal between stealing from a supermarket and this case is the same. In fact your analogy would be more accurate if you accused someone of stealing for going to another supermarket with cheaper prices. Allofmp3 gives money to the copyright holders.
not sure forwarding it to police.gov is a good idea, simply because police.gov doesn't exist, and if it did it would be an american site. Probably forwarding it to the federal police at http://www.afp.gov.au/ would be better.
AllOfMP3 isn't cheap by russian standards, and there doesn't seem to be anything stopping people exporting the songs. I'm wondering what will gome of this, since it isn't clear cut.
I must admit I laughed for quite a while seeing how, claiming a up and coming "death" for SpreadFirefox you linked to a page talking about how they had temporary downtime because they had to upgrade their servers because of overwhelming popularity.
I can't think of a single company who wouldn't want to die that way!
What I do know is that none of those 13+ organizations you rattled off has been able to stop genocide in Yugoslavia or Rwanda nor have they been able to prevent the UN from being a money launderer for Saddam.
And they didn't stop the tsunami disaster - that should have been preemtively prevented like America preemted Iraq using WMDs. And of course they should have moved in right away when GWB got reelected.
But tell me, wtf does that have to do with the bloody governmence of the internet?
would that be called "modoverifying"?
Ahem. That's why it says "Remember Pong". The word 'remember' means that you've heard of it before. If it expected to be telling people about this cool game a long time ago called Pong it would have said "A long time ago there was this cool game called pong, the first and simplest of video games, which opened up the door to a fascinating new frontier in gaming".
I'm more interested in wondering when the new XBox and Playstations will run linux or hacked proggies. */me hugs his xbmc*
It's funny how many people I know don't even think about using XBoxes for actual gaming.
I can't wait. How come that it's only when the site is down when you nearly instantaniously find ten things to look up on it?
why on earth will they download IE or outlook express, or WMP? Definitely WMP is absolutely worthless on linux, since it can't play anything mplayer can't.
mmm. As an "educated" guy, I find that the only appeal of Dan Brown is his layer of mystique over what is really just a badly written book.
You don't even have to use KHTML. You can replace it with Gecko quite ... ahem ... easily (though I can't remember how)
Technically, Mr. Gates is right. The whole Open Source idea is a communist idea, not in terms of Soviet Russia (where software owns you) but in terms of a community of workers all banding together to produce their own labor, instead of selling themselves to the capitalists.
That's socialism, and communism is a subset of socialism - they're not synonyms. Though RMS could be called a socialist, he is quite simply not a communist, and Open Source most definitely is not a communist idea (at least not a Marxist, Leninist or Stalinist idea).
Because I don't have enough time, I'll just sum up my argument!
1. Communism is on the whole quite anti-capitalist. It cannot coexist with capatilist ideals, communist ideas on the whole seek to break down an economy.
2. Communism doesn't seek to treat everyone the same way. The people with more ability get preference. It's like saying "You're a good programmer, therefore you get all of the code. Sorry mate, you're not so good, you only get the OSS drivers."
3. Open Source software in the most part tries to boost up a capatilist society rather than shun it. By having people share code it enables them to give a better product. For example, RMS himself (I think, I hope I'm not mis-quoting) is quoted as saying somewhere that Game Engines should be open source, but the Games themselves shouldn't. The theory is that being able to not re-invent the wheel and to speed up the development and lower the costs in terms of the engine, they could make a better game for a better price.
I'd go on further, but you're probably tired of reading my argument. I've probably missed a few of my points anyway. This is only my interpretation.
lol I was just making sure that "Gentoy" means "Gentoo", checking to see how offended some of my friends should be when I discovered your other post.
Yes it is. I'm not sure to what degree though.
I think one of the major barriers to PSP is that it is too cheap, and because of this it isn't really a competitor to photoshop - pros will pay for photoshop because it's just a drop in a bucket, and newbies will just pirate photoshop. They need to put up a serious case for pros on why they should buy this instead of photoshop.
However this is a different case, even though I'm wondering the same thing. When people choose an operating system, they think "I'm stuck with this for a while aren't I?" They are more likely to dish out an extra bit of money for the "better" (which really means more expensive) Windows op system. If they made lindows just ever so slightly smaller price then more people they will pull into comparing the two as equal competitors. Stress on user friendliness and the huge app stack that comes with it, and Lindows may just win that comparison.
And they need to spread, spread, spread. Put it everywhere.
Creds go to TapeCutter. Soon you shall actually find out who or what VMS is...
I wonder with Linspire the same thing I wonder about Paint Shop Pro. If they actually increased the price of Linspire to something only just lower (about five dollars) than Windows XP Home Ed., bundling the extras in, putting it in a pretty box in as many stores as they can (department stores, gaming stores, supermarkets even if they can), and releasing a discounted OEM version, then it might be even more successful. Right now it looks like a cheap Windows knockoff (cause basically that's what it is). If they started to project the same or similar image as Windows, projecting an image of superiority at a better price then people may consider it side by side with Windows very seriously indeed.
People automatically assume you get what you pay for, even when a lot of the time that's completely false. An OS is a big important tool, and people are probably going to be careful. If they raise the price, I think people would take it more seriously, Linspire will make huge amounts of money and hopefully give back to linux, and linux would gain popularity as a result.
Just me wondering...
See how big that railway system is and see what it does: calculates 1 + 1. Besides the fact that you'd need underlying mechanics to control the other model railroad, it'll also be absolutely enormous and as slow as hell. Just think of how long one train would take to calculate one instruction using that thing, and think of how many instructions required... which would be a hell of a lot.
I just wasted about half a day compiling and recompiling my linux kernel to get it "just right".
But still, I feel even I have the authority to say that some people just have too much time.
So if someone says that they are downloading Firefox, they can just get a certificate, say it's from the "Firefox Foundation" (a mythical yet believable organization) downloading a program called "Firefox Browser", and most people would click yes. This defeats the whole purpose of having certificates to prove the content is from who it claims to be, when you can just lie about it!
Tell me then, what's the point of having a certificate when you can get it under any name you want, for any (possibly) malicious piece of software? If it doesn't give any indication of being trust worthy at all then it's absolutely worthless!
It's ironic that a Microsoft representative a little while ago criticising Firefox not paying for a certificate for the download. What is to stop someone registering "Firefox Browser" or "Click Yes to Download" instead? Certificates when they are so easily abused like this are only detremental - they create a fake level of trust.
The newer versions are a whole lot better I must say.
Ironically a few years ago I was in exactly the same state as you, and now under linux I use realplay almost daily for some reason or another.
Lets be realistic here. The normal "joe" might not be a computer gamer, but most likely the normal "joe"'s son will be.
They have to accomodate for the whole family.