That means that the system is wrong and that also applies everyone else, not just the corporations (remember OJ?). What I'm trying to say is that corporation offers limited liability, not immunity like the parent suggested. A good example is ex-Enron officers that are sent to jail or are in the process of being sent to jail.
Not quite. Try setting up a corporation to setup an online business and use that business to setup fake eBay auctions and swindle money out of people. I cetain that you'll end up in jail.
I could retort by saying your no different than many slashdotters with supersized egoes that will bash any post that says anything remotely negative about Linux or anything they believe in.
I guess you'd be right on that. You didn't turn out to be a rant troll as I expected and actually came back with a thoughtful responds so I'm willing to say I stand corrected on that statement.
I thought a journalized file system should be able to reconstruct itself in such a situation.
One advantage of the journalized file system is that they greatly reduce the need for fsck but there are cases where both Linux (such as ext3) and third party JFSs (such as Veritas JFS and the AIX JFS) get screwed up enough that even running fsck doesn't solve the problem. This shows that there's no replacement for a reliable backup system.
I certainly shouldn't have to go spend any time in newsgroups or man pages or doc project sites or whatever to figure out what arcane commands I need to run from a boot disk that the OS should have managed to do itself.
When Windows 2003 Server came out (I'm a Windows sys admin BTW), one of the changes MS bragged about was that you can pretty much do almost anything you want (admin wise) via the command prompt. In fact, there are many tools that you can only use via command prompt. So even with Windows, you can't really escape from arcane commands.
it shouldn't have gone this far, and each problem they've overcome has been tracked to OS problems by the way (every single one thus far has needed a kernel patch... I'm not intimately familiar with the details frankly, but I get daily reports, and that solution has been used a number of times already).
Do you have details has exactly what software's (since hardware is ruled out) causing the problem? Are they dealing with customized software here?
How am I wrong? Prove it fact by fact. I bet you can't without just repeating my own words in pathetic attempt to demoralize me, but really, this is getting fun.
No, I'm just having fun with that AC by copying and pasting his replies. Besides, as far as I know, you could've been that AC or maybe you are really myself pointing with a second account.
The suit proposes as a class any California resident who has been targeted by abusive messages on a Slashdot board, who tried to get such messages stopped or learn the identity of the message poster.
Same quote except the word Yahoo's been changed to Slashdot. Not much of a difference, is there?
Really, what is your beef? You can't seem to get over the fact that you were wrong.
I did RTFA. What I said goes exactly with the article. What is your beef? That I corrected you and you couldn't take it? Get over it! We are all wrong sometimes in our life. Deal.
It seems that by looking at the comments on that thread, the ground rules really didn't work.
Besides, it didn't stop people from yelling censorship when the major U.S. media didn't show the behading in Iraq even though it's their general policy to not to show things like that.
The suit proposes as a class any California resident who has been targeted by abusive messages on a Yahoo board, who tried to get such messages stopped or learn the identity of the message poster.
If you RTFA, you'll know that this is what the lawsuit is about. Should Slashdot be sued because people here constantly gets abusive messages by ACs? By the definition above, Slashdot's no different can Yahoo.
The link you provided about censorship states this:
I don't think so. Nothing is deleted: if you want to read the raw, uncut Slashdot, simply set your threshold to -1 and go crazy! This system is simply a method for us to try to work together to categorize the thousands of comments that are posted each day in such a way that we can benefit from the wisdom contained in the discussions. It's in there! It just takes some work to find it.
It doesn't say anything about banning people from posting. Really, what's the point for having a debate if you only allow people that agrees with you to speak?
Give me a break... Do you think Linux would have ANY chance WHATSOEVER if Microsoft was allowed to ship Office, Visual Studio, Flight Simulator and, hmm, let's say Norton SystemWorks? Short answer, in case your blind zealotry keeps you from seeing straight: NONE, ZERO, ZIP, NADA, NO CHANCE.
Considering that Office and Visual Studio costs more than Windows itself, why whould MS bundle it with Windows? And why would anyone install Norton Systemworks? In fact, I'd praise MS if they included all those (minus the Systemworks) software with Windows without increasing the price. And what's stoping MS from shipping with OpenOffice, Sun Java VM (not the bastardised MS Jave VM), Mozilla, and other free applications?
Linux is great as a server platform. Actually, I take that back. It's not great, it's good. Seeing as how our IBM consultants are having trouble getting their own products to run on RedHat, and I've seen my share of Linux boxes crash for no apparent reason (and hardware issues were eliminated) and I've seen a number of Linux boxes not boot up again after a sudden power failure and WITH a journaled file system.
Is it your companie's policy to hire consultants that can't even get their own products to run? And as for the sudden power failure, I question the competency of sys admins that have setup those Linux servers/workstations without UPSes to protect against sudden power failures, not to mention that a surge usally following such power outages. And an IT expert like youself should know better than to know the true purpose of journaling file systems.
Make the best software out there, and not just the best software as compared to Windows as judged by 15-year old whiz-kids, but the best products as judged by any neutral observer.
And who should be this "neutral observer"? You? SCO? MS? IBM? Slashdotters?
Harsh? Yes. Reality? Abso-fraggin'-lutely!
You're no different than many slashdotters with supersized egos that you bash on your post.
With a childish design, built in content control and other kid-friendly features, it could be a breakthrough or just another specialized device flop. Do children really need their own specialized computer?
The more important question is... Will it play Doom 3?
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That means that the system is wrong and that also applies everyone else, not just the corporations (remember OJ?). What I'm trying to say is that corporation offers limited liability, not immunity like the parent suggested. A good example is ex-Enron officers that are sent to jail or are in the process of being sent to jail.
Not quite. Try setting up a corporation to setup an online business and use that business to setup fake eBay auctions and swindle money out of people. I cetain that you'll end up in jail.
I could retort by saying your no different than many slashdotters with supersized egoes that will bash any post that says anything remotely negative about Linux or anything they believe in.
I guess you'd be right on that. You didn't turn out to be a rant troll as I expected and actually came back with a thoughtful responds so I'm willing to say I stand corrected on that statement.
I thought a journalized file system should be able to reconstruct itself in such a situation.
One advantage of the journalized file system is that they greatly reduce the need for fsck but there are cases where both Linux (such as ext3) and third party JFSs (such as Veritas JFS and the AIX JFS) get screwed up enough that even running fsck doesn't solve the problem. This shows that there's no replacement for a reliable backup system.
I certainly shouldn't have to go spend any time in newsgroups or man pages or doc project sites or whatever to figure out what arcane commands I need to run from a boot disk that the OS should have managed to do itself.
When Windows 2003 Server came out (I'm a Windows sys admin BTW), one of the changes MS bragged about was that you can pretty much do almost anything you want (admin wise) via the command prompt. In fact, there are many tools that you can only use via command prompt. So even with Windows, you can't really escape from arcane commands.
it shouldn't have gone this far, and each problem they've overcome has been tracked to OS problems by the way (every single one thus far has needed a kernel patch... I'm not intimately familiar with the details frankly, but I get daily reports, and that solution has been used a number of times already).
Do you have details has exactly what software's (since hardware is ruled out) causing the problem? Are they dealing with customized software here?
So my comments about Darl McBride fucking a donkey won't get me in touble because it's true, right?
I'm a /. lover and you've offended me with that comment, so expect to hear from my lawyer soon.
Yes, I am wrong.
Come on dude, don't give up on me! What kind of lawyer do you call yourself!
By this guy, do you mean myself, yourself (the troll AC), the other AC, the lawyer AC, or the AC that could've been me, or the random AC?
That's a good idea although I'm having too much fun with AC lawyers to change it now...
We had guys like this in law school..
It looks like your covers blown, Stephen Galton. Will you sue me now or are we going to continue with this "debate"?
I guess the quote doesn't much to you, does it?
How am I wrong? Prove it fact by fact. I bet you can't without just repeating my own words in pathetic attempt to demoralize me, but really, this is getting fun.
No, I'm just having fun with that AC by copying and pasting his replies. Besides, as far as I know, you could've been that AC or maybe you are really myself pointing with a second account.
The suit proposes as a class any California resident who has been targeted by abusive messages on a Slashdot board, who tried to get such messages stopped or learn the identity of the message poster.
Same quote except the word Yahoo's been changed to Slashdot. Not much of a difference, is there?
Really, what is your beef? You can't seem to get over the fact that you were wrong.
You are a fucking short-sighted moron if you think this would help anyone.
I think that he was joking.
I did RTFA. What I said goes exactly with the article. What is your beef? That I corrected you and you couldn't take it? Get over it! We are all wrong sometimes in our life. Deal.
If you RTFQ (Read The Freaking Quote) that I've posted from that article, Slashdot fits the definition of the lawsuit.
It seems that by looking at the comments on that thread, the ground rules really didn't work.
Besides, it didn't stop people from yelling censorship when the major U.S. media didn't show the behading in Iraq even though it's their general policy to not to show things like that.
Or maybe it's me bashing myself to make everyone think that ACs are someone else.
The suit proposes as a class any California resident who has been targeted by abusive messages on a Yahoo board, who tried to get such messages stopped or learn the identity of the message poster.
If you RTFA, you'll know that this is what the lawsuit is about. Should Slashdot be sued because people here constantly gets abusive messages by ACs? By the definition above, Slashdot's no different can Yahoo.
It's pretty sad when an AC replies to his own post to agree with himself.
The link you provided about censorship states this:
I don't think so. Nothing is deleted: if you want to read the raw, uncut Slashdot, simply set your threshold to -1 and go crazy! This system is simply a method for us to try to work together to categorize the thousands of comments that are posted each day in such a way that we can benefit from the wisdom contained in the discussions. It's in there! It just takes some work to find it.
It doesn't say anything about banning people from posting. Really, what's the point for having a debate if you only allow people that agrees with you to speak?
Yahoo didn't publish those messages, the users did. It's like suing the phone company because someone called you a dork on the phone.
Give me a break... Do you think Linux would have ANY chance WHATSOEVER if Microsoft was allowed to ship Office, Visual Studio, Flight Simulator and, hmm, let's say Norton SystemWorks? Short answer, in case your blind zealotry keeps you from seeing straight: NONE, ZERO, ZIP, NADA, NO CHANCE.
Considering that Office and Visual Studio costs more than Windows itself, why whould MS bundle it with Windows? And why would anyone install Norton Systemworks? In fact, I'd praise MS if they included all those (minus the Systemworks) software with Windows without increasing the price. And what's stoping MS from shipping with OpenOffice, Sun Java VM (not the bastardised MS Jave VM), Mozilla, and other free applications?
Linux is great as a server platform. Actually, I take that back. It's not great, it's good. Seeing as how our IBM consultants are having trouble getting their own products to run on RedHat, and I've seen my share of Linux boxes crash for no apparent reason (and hardware issues were eliminated) and I've seen a number of Linux boxes not boot up again after a sudden power failure and WITH a journaled file system.
Is it your companie's policy to hire consultants that can't even get their own products to run? And as for the sudden power failure, I question the competency of sys admins that have setup those Linux servers/workstations without UPSes to protect against sudden power failures, not to mention that a surge usally following such power outages. And an IT expert like youself should know better than to know the true purpose of journaling file systems.
Make the best software out there, and not just the best software as compared to Windows as judged by 15-year old whiz-kids, but the best products as judged by any neutral observer.
And who should be this "neutral observer"? You? SCO? MS? IBM? Slashdotters?
Harsh? Yes. Reality? Abso-fraggin'-lutely!
You're no different than many slashdotters with supersized egos that you bash on your post.
Look at IBM AIX for example, I think it's superior to IBM linux.
How do you know if IBM AIX is superior to IBM Linux when IBM Linux doesn't exist?
All your spellcheckers are belong to us?
Gosh, you are very demanding, aren't you? Do you expect us to start RTFA, too?
With a childish design, built in content control and other kid-friendly features, it could be a breakthrough or just another specialized device flop. Do children really need their own specialized computer?
The more important question is... Will it play Doom 3?