Perhaps I have different prospective on "self-made right men" as most of the ones that I know of escapes from bad situations, like a guy who came over to the states from Vietnam on a boat, or a guy who fled Iran with only three suite cases. They are all humble as they still remember their roots. Conversely, most of poor people that I know are poor because they spend all their free time/money on weed and/or Evercrack (and other various online games).
"If you ever become that wealthy, my money is on that the only thing you represent is yourself."
I don't think that you have to be that wealthy to represent only yourself. Most people that I know don't donate or volunteer for charity. Why do you think that people spend $1000+ for gamining PCs when they can donate $1000+ to a charity?
But that's like the airline guy saying that all Linux users are hackers. Besides, consumers shop at places like Wal-Mart at the expense of mom and pop stores so I guess most of us are guilty of trying to save a buck or two at the expense of others.
My uncle is a millionaire and do you know how he got started? He came to the States when he was 35 and got a job with a company that cleans office buildings. While he's not at the cleaning job, he worked part time as a painter. After a while, he painted full time and opened his own painting business. Along with his profits from the business, he obtained funding form investors to buy up real estates in California right before the economic boom. And the rest is history. He could have retired years ago but yet he still works. Why? He provides scholarships to disadvantaged college students because he personally knows the hardships of life. And I'll say this in closing; this gung-ho millionaire represents humanity much better that you ever will.
"I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one."
Yes, we should just agree to disagree on this.
"I know that Linux can provide a good drop-in replacement for Windows in certain instances, but I think that consideration has taken a back seat to the desire of PHBs for consistency across networks."
Very true, for both military and private sector.
You should consider getting an actual/. as you are one of the better posters on/. and by posting AC, many viewers will end up missing your posts.
I only called you a dipshit not because you were disagreeing with me but you started name calling without giving a reason. Now since you did backup your disagreement with good reasons, I take my name calling back.
"One of the "hidden" costs of rolling out OpenOffice is also handling the training needs of people who are "used to Word""
I wish that Army would've at least do some controlled testing to see if the soldiers are able to make the switch before they decided to sign a six year contract. I and some others on/. believe the switch won't be a problem whereas you, Mr. Bagwell and others believe that there will be a big problem. But I guess none of us will know for sure without testing, would we?
"This move is about saving money and providing a consistent platform across the entire Army."
I still disagree that the move would save money as I would agree with the AF guy. However, let's pretend that I do agree. By using the same argument, Army should've never moved on to rifles from muskets since that would require money and time spent for aquiring and training for the new weapons.
"My servers don't go down unless I personally take them down"
I have no doubt that your network is stable but how can you trust Microsoft products when they can't even secure their own products? Even as I type, I'm getting notices that GroupShield is blocking Sobig.e worms from getting through the exchange server.
"I'm sure that an upgrade to WinXP will cause its share of problems, but probably not nearly as much as switching to a completely different OS"
I've experimented with Samba server at my civilian job and when setup right, the enduser did not noticed any difference from a Windows file server. Of course, this may not be the case with more complex Army network.
"Would you feel better knowing who I am?"
It's mainly due to the fact that I'm sick tired of AC's who post "I'm right, you suck, just because I said so". Although you seem knowledable, unlike bheer who bashes me for not having any logic without presenting anything logical on his end.
I totally agree. I don't see why people are brining up bash when it unlike the average soldier uses Windows command prompt. Besides, soldiers are expected to countinue to train, otherwise, U.S. Army would still be fighting with muskets.
If you are indeed an Army SA (although posting as AC takes away credibility), can you explain to me why my division is upgrading their computers when Pentium IIs with Windows NT4 does everything that me need to do? This move isn't about saving money, especially when there are plenty of out of work IT workers that can provide training? Since many of administrative MOSes (Army word for job) are thought by civilians, Army should not have any problems finding IT works who know both Windows and alternative platforms. Or maybe you are resisting because that means that either youâ(TM)ll have to learn another OS or get replaced by someone who can.
They didn't provide training for Word or IE so why would they need to provide training for Open Office and Mozilla? I'm speaking from my personal experience and from the experiences of career soldiers that came from various other units. So tell me, how can a dipshit like you make analysis about usage of computers in the Army without experience?
I'm a soldier in Army Reserve and my unit is an administrative unit, which means that we make heavy use of our computers. The computers are mainly used for typing memos, making simple spreadsheets, and downloading new forms and publications off of the Internet. I do not see why a Linux or BSD machines running Open Office, Mozilla, and xPDF (or Reader for UNIX) cannot replace the current Windows machines. I have talked to soldiers that came from other reserve and active duty units and they also use their computers for similar purposes. Only software that we use that is not on Linux is FormFlow, which is one of the crapiest software I've used (yes, even worse than Windows ME). It is a simple software, so it shouldn't cost much to program something like that for non-Windows platform.
"I've been talking to a couple recruiters over the last few weeks and they've all been extremely excited to speak with someone who has a college degree and good computer skills"
They are just blowing smoke up your ass to get you to join. GED's only thing that's required as far as education level goes. Only benefit you would get off of a college degree is that you get to go in as a Specialist instead of a Buck Private.
"At least by buying Office they can havfe their existing techs support it." If their existing techs can't support Open Office, it's time for them to get a new tech.
From reading the article, it looks like they didn't even bother using WEP. It's sad that even with large amount of out of job IT workers, the district can't find someone with network security experience.
I believe that Sun may have more to gain from SCO FUD than M$. SCO even made comments were even M$ OSes may have violated its IP by have trace of UNIX-likeness. SCO stated that Sun is only one who is free and clear from any future law suit, the fact that Sun itself like to flaunt. Think about it.
At first, Sun bashed Linux. When it seemed like Linux was here to say, they decided to praise it and started producing Linux products. After the SCO law suit, Sun jumped on the SCO FUD bandwagon and pushed its products over Linux and AIX as the safe alternative. Iâ(TM)ve decided that from now on, Iâ(TM)ll trust Sun as much as Iâ(TM)ll trust M$.
I'm not too sure about that. SCO is already planning on going against other UNIX-like OSes, such as *BSD, Mac OS, and maybe even M$ OS. Only player that is safe at this moment is Sun.
http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/03/06/24/15 42207.shtml (Can someone show me how to turn that into a link?)
She was interviewing a mother of a political figure (I forgot who). After the interview, the mother told Connie off the record that she felt that Hillary Clinton was a bitch. Not suprisingly, that "off the record" comment made it to the news. The moral of this story is that to the reporters, nothing is "off the record".
NYT Reporter: May I interview you for a story?
bull999999: Kiss my ass. I don't trust you guys.
Next day on NYT
"HEADLINE: bull999999 of Slashdot is a sickco"
bull999999 of Slashdot admits that he's a pervert that enjoys strangers giving oral sex to his behind. He also does not trust the media, rather perfers to consult his imaginary friend "Roy" and Slashdot for all his news needs.
Slashdot Mirror
Perhaps I have different prospective on "self-made right men" as most of the ones that I know of escapes from bad situations, like a guy who came over to the states from Vietnam on a boat, or a guy who fled Iran with only three suite cases. They are all humble as they still remember their roots. Conversely, most of poor people that I know are poor because they spend all their free time/money on weed and/or Evercrack (and other various online games).
"If you ever become that wealthy, my money is on that the only thing you represent is yourself."
I don't think that you have to be that wealthy to represent only yourself. Most people that I know don't donate or volunteer for charity. Why do you think that people spend $1000+ for gamining PCs when they can donate $1000+ to a charity?
But that's like the airline guy saying that all Linux users are hackers. Besides, consumers shop at places like Wal-Mart at the expense of mom and pop stores so I guess most of us are guilty of trying to save a buck or two at the expense of others.
My uncle is a millionaire and do you know how he got started? He came to the States when he was 35 and got a job with a company that cleans office buildings. While he's not at the cleaning job, he worked part time as a painter. After a while, he painted full time and opened his own painting business. Along with his profits from the business, he obtained funding form investors to buy up real estates in California right before the economic boom. And the rest is history. He could have retired years ago but yet he still works. Why? He provides scholarships to disadvantaged college students because he personally knows the hardships of life. And I'll say this in closing; this gung-ho millionaire represents humanity much better that you ever will.
"I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one."
/. as you are one of the better posters on /. and by posting AC, many viewers will end up missing your posts.
Yes, we should just agree to disagree on this.
"I know that Linux can provide a good drop-in replacement for Windows in certain instances, but I think that consideration has taken a back seat to the desire of PHBs for consistency across networks."
Very true, for both military and private sector.
You should consider getting an actual
I only called you a dipshit not because you were disagreeing with me but you started name calling without giving a reason. Now since you did backup your disagreement with good reasons, I take my name calling back.
/. believe the switch won't be a problem whereas you, Mr. Bagwell and others believe that there will be a big problem. But I guess none of us will know for sure without testing, would we?
"One of the "hidden" costs of rolling out OpenOffice is also handling the training needs of people who are "used to Word""
I wish that Army would've at least do some controlled testing to see if the soldiers are able to make the switch before they decided to sign a six year contract. I and some others on
"This move is about saving money and providing a consistent platform across the entire Army."
I still disagree that the move would save money as I would agree with the AF guy. However, let's pretend that I do agree. By using the same argument, Army should've never moved on to rifles from muskets since that would require money and time spent for aquiring and training for the new weapons.
"My servers don't go down unless I personally take them down"
I have no doubt that your network is stable but how can you trust Microsoft products when they can't even secure their own products? Even as I type, I'm getting notices that GroupShield is blocking Sobig.e worms from getting through the exchange server.
"I'm sure that an upgrade to WinXP will cause its share of problems, but probably not nearly as much as switching to a completely different OS"
I've experimented with Samba server at my civilian job and when setup right, the enduser did not noticed any difference from a Windows file server. Of course, this may not be the case with more complex Army network.
"Would you feel better knowing who I am?"
It's mainly due to the fact that I'm sick tired of AC's who post "I'm right, you suck, just because I said so". Although you seem knowledable, unlike bheer who bashes me for not having any logic without presenting anything logical on his end.
Yes, I killed plenty of babies using paper cuts and PowerPoint slide presentations.
I totally agree. I don't see why people are brining up bash when it unlike the average soldier uses Windows command prompt. Besides, soldiers are expected to countinue to train, otherwise, U.S. Army would still be fighting with muskets.
If you are indeed an Army SA (although posting as AC takes away credibility), can you explain to me why my division is upgrading their computers when Pentium IIs with Windows NT4 does everything that me need to do? This move isn't about saving money, especially when there are plenty of out of work IT workers that can provide training? Since many of administrative MOSes (Army word for job) are thought by civilians, Army should not have any problems finding IT works who know both Windows and alternative platforms. Or maybe you are resisting because that means that either youâ(TM)ll have to learn another OS or get replaced by someone who can.
They didn't provide training for Word or IE so why would they need to provide training for Open Office and Mozilla? I'm speaking from my personal experience and from the experiences of career soldiers that came from various other units. So tell me, how can a dipshit like you make analysis about usage of computers in the Army without experience?
"Seriously have you ever notived the vast amount of crud thats posted here? "
Yes, and the worst being yours.
Why do they need to learn bash or mutt? All they need is to have someone setup icons for them on KDE or GNOME and have them click on it.
I'm a soldier in Army Reserve and my unit is an administrative unit, which means that we make heavy use of our computers. The computers are mainly used for typing memos, making simple spreadsheets, and downloading new forms and publications off of the Internet. I do not see why a Linux or BSD machines running Open Office, Mozilla, and xPDF (or Reader for UNIX) cannot replace the current Windows machines. I have talked to soldiers that came from other reserve and active duty units and they also use their computers for similar purposes. Only software that we use that is not on Linux is FormFlow, which is one of the crapiest software I've used (yes, even worse than Windows ME). It is a simple software, so it shouldn't cost much to program something like that for non-Windows platform.
"I've been talking to a couple recruiters over the last few weeks and they've all been extremely excited to speak with someone who has a college degree and good computer skills"
They are just blowing smoke up your ass to get you to join. GED's only thing that's required as far as education level goes. Only benefit you would get off of a college degree is that you get to go in as a Specialist instead of a Buck Private.
"At least by buying Office they can havfe their existing techs support it." If their existing techs can't support Open Office, it's time for them to get a new tech.
And there are people who actually believe that health care run by the government would be better.
I guess this explains why U.S. tech jobs are getting farmed out to India.
From reading the article, it looks like they didn't even bother using WEP. It's sad that even with large amount of out of job IT workers, the district can't find someone with network security experience.
"Its overhyped and accepted because it is FREE!"
That explains why the graphics guys on Windows use M$ paint instead of Photoshop.
I believe that Sun may have more to gain from SCO FUD than M$. SCO even made comments were even M$ OSes may have violated its IP by have trace of UNIX-likeness. SCO stated that Sun is only one who is free and clear from any future law suit, the fact that Sun itself like to flaunt. Think about it.
At first, Sun bashed Linux. When it seemed like Linux was here to say, they decided to praise it and started producing Linux products. After the SCO law suit, Sun jumped on the SCO FUD bandwagon and pushed its products over Linux and AIX as the safe alternative. Iâ(TM)ve decided that from now on, Iâ(TM)ll trust Sun as much as Iâ(TM)ll trust M$.
I'm not too sure about that. SCO is already planning on going against other UNIX-like OSes, such as *BSD, Mac OS, and maybe even M$ OS. Only player that is safe at this moment is Sun.
5 42207.shtml (Can someone show me how to turn that into a link?)
http://newsvac.newsforge.com/newsvac/03/06/24/1
She was interviewing a mother of a political figure (I forgot who). After the interview, the mother told Connie off the record that she felt that Hillary Clinton was a bitch. Not suprisingly, that "off the record" comment made it to the news. The moral of this story is that to the reporters, nothing is "off the record".
I agreed, RATBOON should feel raped after all those unfair mods.
NYT Reporter: May I interview you for a story?
bull999999: Kiss my ass. I don't trust you guys.
Next day on NYT
"HEADLINE: bull999999 of Slashdot is a sickco"
bull999999 of Slashdot admits that he's a pervert that enjoys strangers giving oral sex to his behind. He also does not trust the media, rather perfers to consult his imaginary friend "Roy" and Slashdot for all his news needs.
May North American and UK people would complain less if those "many countries" also outlawed open relays.
You should leave poor Hatch alone. I'm pretty sure that he can use all of $18,000 since he can't even afford $900 for the license.