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Anarchy Online Gamer Responds

An anonymous reader writes "Thought some people might be interested in seeing a follow up on the NYT article about the Anarchy Online player. His reaction to it was less then supportive. You can read about what he had to say and what other players had to say." See the original story for background.

301 comments

  1. "I feel raped." by RATBOON · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I feel raped."

    a little overboard, i feel.

    but it cant have been nice.

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    1. Re:"I feel raped." by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      ""I feel raped."

      a little overboard, i feel.

      but it cant have been nice."


      PSst, mods, that's not off-topic. "I feel raped" is how the dude expressed his feelings about the NYT article. This post was modded in error.

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    2. Re:"I feel raped." by InferiorFloater · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think raped is an adequate way to describe defamation in a national newspaper. The reporter apparently violated thedeacon's trust on several counts, and to do it in a national newspaper is outright heinous.

      Thedeacon has a point when he says that private figures are not subject to the scrutiny of public figures. If the cost of law weren't so prohibitive, he'd probably sue, and would be absolutely justified in doing so. This sort of scandalous reporting deserves some serious publicity.

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    3. Re:"I feel raped." by Bull999999 · · Score: 1

      I agreed, RATBOON should feel raped after all those unfair mods.

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    4. Re:"I feel raped." by Chmarr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rule #1: Never ever EVER trust the media. They're not in it to tell the truth, they're in it to sell papers and advertising space. If the truth gets told in the process, that's a bonus.

      This is something that several 'fandoms' have been learning over and over, and it never truely sinks in. Just when you think you're talking to someone that 'really gets it', and you think you're going to get a fair shake, they turn around and rape you again.

      Stuff that for a joke :)

    5. Re:"I feel raped." by Zebbers · · Score: 0

      how in fuck do you know hes justified in suing. I doubt youre a lawyer, so you have no basis period to say that. Theres already other threads on libel. Read them. Its hard to claim a damaged rep, when you have no rep.

      Secondly, you dont know if its scandalous. YOU dont know the truth. Oh, this guy who was reported as a loser is denying it. Big fucking surprise. All I see is more proof when combined with his other babble on those boards that he does indeed need a reality check. Still, I dont know him. Do you?

    6. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol i think someone has been to jail over this... some girls actually do get raped you know? nowadays even... stupid fuck.

    7. Re:"I feel raped." by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      After having read both his storm posts and that slashdot posts by 'deacon', I don't get that they are posted by the same person. His posting on storm are an order of magnitude more coherent and sane.

      Now it's just possible that when he posted on slashdot he was still royally pissed at the spress in general, ready to take on all comers and slashdot just managed to be the first place he happened on where he could vent his frustrations, but I really don't have a whole lot to link the two entities.

      That having been said, his original posting is a good bit more coherent when you read the raw HTML... It's pretty clear from looking at it that he did NOT expect to have to include <P> all over the place (or just change to 'plain old text') In fact, I think that I'm just going to repost his post, because a simple reformatting job really does change the apparent tone.

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    8. Re:"I feel raped." by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 1

      there are some legit media out there - wire services in particular. the new york times, however, should definitely never be trusted. they are always (and i have anecdotes from primary sources going back forty years) shaping stories for their own agenda.

    9. Re:"I feel raped." by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 1

      He can sue via pro bono , and some lawyers will take
      cases on contingency and work your case til the
      pay off comes in .

      Then tend to charge more overall, but it offers
      recourse to those that cannot swing the $$$ up front .

      Alot of poor ppl get lawyers this way, a ex-friend of
      mine sued the state for poorly marked road signs when
      she drove off the road at 60 miles and hour because
      the road just ended with no warning ....She won...

      Her lawyer took the case on contingecy .

      It was close to 1/3rd of a million, but the lawyers
      took 1/3rd of it .

      There is also a law going before the senate to reduce
      this amount to closer to 20-25% if memory serves right .

      Peace,
      Ex-MislTech

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    10. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy deserves to be raped. Not only that, he should be locked up or sent back somewhere.

    11. Re:"I feel raped." by Cecil · · Score: 1

      Its hard to claim a damaged rep, when you have no rep.

      Oh, so the libel and slander laws are only for the people who are already famous, now. I find it unbelievable to think that courts would tell this guy he has no reputation at all, anywhere, for anything. There have been many similar libel cases that have won. Try reading books on libel, rather than 'threads', eh?

      And since when did you become the moral police? It's pretty obvious what the guy was stating is an opinion. He's entitled to say whatever he feels is true. If Slashdot limited replies to people who are fully informed and involved with a story, there wouldn't BE any comments, and this would be a very boring website.

    12. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

    13. Re:"I feel raped." by blumley · · Score: 0

      The most ridiculous thing I read in his post was the part about "certain private issues (bankruptcy)". Bankruptcy is NOT PRIVATE. Everyone gets to pay for it through higher interest rates and taxes when people file bankruptcy. I don't know about the rest of the nation, but here in Tennessee, they are actually REQUIRED to post it in the newspaper when someone files bankruptcy. No, bankruptcy is not ALWAYS due to stupidity. I almost had to file myself when I took a 66% pay cut. However, when you take advantage (and I don't mean in a bad way) of laws created to help people that are down on their luck, you can't expect to be exempt from exposure.

      My 2 cents...

    14. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After having read both his storm posts and that slashdot posts by 'deacon', I don't get that they are posted by the same person. His posting on storm are an order of magnitude more coherent and sane.

      What's so odd about that? A number Slashdot posters post coherently and sanely elsewhere.

    15. Re:"I feel raped." by Chmarr · · Score: 1

      Oh, I totally agree that there are some legitimate services out there, but there's no way of telling who you're dealing with when a reporter is taking your story.

      Reporter: "Hi, I'm from the Washington Post." Reporter's thoughts: "Which is true, but I'm going to be selling THIS story to Vanity Fair".

    16. Re:"I feel raped." by justins · · Score: 1
      . If the cost of law weren't so prohibitive, he'd probably sue, and would be absolutely justified in doing so.

      Justified perhaps, but he'd never win. First reason: the only damage seems to be that his inner child has been wounded, or something. Second reason: none of the stuff that was printed was false. It's not libel if it's true.
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    17. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent down. Links involve porn site.

    18. Re:"I feel raped." by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 1

      easy way is to call up the news desk from whichever news service (or obudsman at a newspaper) the reporter claims to be from. no editor of any ethical standing won't verify something like that for you.

    19. Re:"I feel raped." by Chmarr · · Score: 1

      Which won't help if the reporter really IS from the washington post, but intends to sell the story elsewhere.

    20. Re:"I feel raped." by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 1

      if she's selling it somewhere else, the editor will know - the editor assigns stories.

    21. Re:"I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goatse.cx? Porn? Nooooooooooooooo.

    22. Re:"I feel raped." by bromodrosis · · Score: 1

      Aww look. He's defensive AND bitter. While I'm impressed by your need to validate yourself everywhere, nobody here really cares that much. You're a blip on the screen. Get back in yer glass house.

  2. more background by the_real_tigga · · Score: 2, Informative

    for even more interesting and insightful "background" visit the somethingawful.com review.

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    1. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This link really isn't fair. AO admittedly got off to a horrible start but I was amazed at the effort they put in to turn it around and the ability to make it suceed. I don't play anymore but this is now a first-rate game and has lasted alot longer then most people would have guessed when it was first released.

    2. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      other more interesting background:

      The deacon's first response on slashdot to the original story.

      The rest of his incoherent ramblings

      This guy is a lunatic, tells a new york times reporter a bunch off things about him that he never wanted published, freaks out whn it is saying he was shocked that the journalist didn't live up to his expectation of the article only containing complimentary information, and then freaks out on the entire slashdot corwd for discussing the article. Why is this news still??

    3. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would you feel after taking over 500 insults from people who don't even know you?

    4. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm you mean like politicians, movie stars, scientists, rock stars and pretty much anyone else that gets articles written about the in the new york times? They generally seem to handle it with a bit more poise. I mean, it's not like random mmo gamers get articles written about them without their consent & involvement. This guy wanted to be a public figure but then freaked out when he wasn't put up on a list of living saints.

      However i would feel aftwerward i'm pretty damn sure i wouldnt come to slashdot and post "YOU JUST GOT PWNED BIATCH"

      lol

    5. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you don't know somethingawful.com do you.

    6. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No..I guess I didn't. I see now that they bill themselves as a 'satire/comedy site'. Of course, given the horrific launch of AO, it truly was somethingawful at the time so it was tough to differenciate the humor from the truth there.

      Still my point that the game isn't the same game that got released stands. It's amazing they were able to pull themselves out of that original mess. I thought for sure it was going to be a huge failure.

    7. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and even have some sympathy on him.

      Until I saw his pathetic attempts at flames. They made me cringe, but not from being intimidated, I just thought "this guy is quite an asshole".

      So, sounds like he's just getting what he deserves.

      --Russell

    8. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i kinda want to meet him, just for kicks :P

    9. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's only 3 people on this site that say "lol" and one of them is LazloToth. I gotta say that you did get "PWNED BIATCH".

    10. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      worship much?

    11. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are asking if I play computer role playing games, no. Know a good flame and some real sorry comebacks when I see it though.

    12. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      great well since i'm not who you thought i was and you're not who i thought you were, we're just two idiots arguing about someone else's conversation. It doesnt change the fact that that guy appears clinically insane and you have no sense of what a good flame is.

    13. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if I ever meet him I WILL KICK Y0UR ASS!!!

    14. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TheDeacon is the most loveable individual I've known in my entire life.

      He is also the most loyal husband any woman could ever wish for.

      These comments against him are harsh, rude and injust, my husband did not deserve these.

      He only came on slashdotdotorg, cause he felt frustrated about the way this New York times reporter has reported on him (all lies about us). Given this type of public humiliation, anyone, would feel like my husband and thus respond the same way on this forum.

      I have been married with TheDeacon for quite a while, he flirts with women on AO, but there is a greater understanding between me and him that you people would not understand. As I've been told, you people have never ever been with a woman, so the love of a woman would be something you could only dream of in a dream.

      My husband and I am very sad and angry at this forum for the kind of character killing stories you have written about us, thus the both of us are going to press civil charages against anyone who made a false comment against us and the owner of this group called Malda Taco.

      Her Footness Mrs. The Deacon

    15. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can find background info on theDeacon on this link. BTW his name is RICHARD L STENLUND.

      Picture of him and his fat wife.

      You can find his e-mail from this link. Enter his name, Madison/Wi as addr and age 27.

    16. Re:more background by orzetto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you sure that AOthedeacon in Slashdot is actually the same person that plays thedeacon in AO?
      It looks to me more like a troll that wants some attention. The writing style is way different from the post on nanoclan.com, and the fact that you post as an AC does not come to your avail.
      I never played AO, don't really liked games I could get too much involved in (except Civilization maybe...). But I have no difficulty believing that some journalists just do as they please, knowing they can lie with impunity.
      As a definition I like goes, A journalist is a person who knows nothing and writes about everything. Well, at least many journalists are like that.

      Cheers

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    17. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      yeah, this guy is legit. I would have assumed he was a troll too, except that the first time i read this shit was via a link i followed while reading a linked thread on anarchy-online.com in it thedeacon was ranting about how poorly he had been treated and by page 4 had linked to him posting here on slashdot with that username.



      http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?s= 25d4136865a685c671b6a3220077497e&threadid=143417&p erpage=20&pagenumber=4


      that is the link that used to show that forum post but it's either been erased or they delete old posts i dont know. There is no question that this guy is real though... pretty strange world.

    18. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well you aren't too much to brag about being with from the pic i saw. and ur husband looks like a fuckin mutant.

    19. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am posting this as an Ac because I do live and work in Madison. And the article in the NYT didn't tell me anything I didn't know about anyone who is involved online. Except his name. Wisconsin has an open records type law. So what I did this morning, not when I first saw the article last week, was to plug it into http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl and checked out his court records to see what sort of person he was in RL. Quite honestly, his record looks average for someone his age. The only thing he doesn't realize is that if he has pissed off someone on line, gives a NYT interview, his RL address can be found. Maybe he shouldn't have talked to NYT?

    20. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ye gods, is he pooping?

    21. Re:more background by ErikZ · · Score: 1


      I find it interesting. I suspect SOME of us have never had to deal with a reporter before.

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    22. Re:more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would you feel after taking over 500 insults from people who don't even know you?

      Pretty sweet, but you can be trolling for years and never get a catch like that.

    23. Re:more background by tuber · · Score: 1

      I think the only thing to do at this point is mod this +5 Funny.

    24. Re:more background by u-238 · · Score: 0

      he also included a legit link to himself in his pathetic rant -- take a look, it matches with the ny times one:

      http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2003/06/12/t ec hnology/12PLAY.wwife.jpg

      i too was not nearly about to believe it was actually him, but yeah, it IS in fact legit.

      painfully pathetic

  3. arrrrgh.... NYT by HowlinMad · · Score: 1, Interesting

    SO I have to come into work on friday night for a DB conversion. This story comes a long, and I go and read the original, but when I go to read the original NYT article, they want me to pay. I tried the PARTNER=google trick, but no dice. This sucks.

    1. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they do that for articles > 1 week old. This one is 8 days ;(

    2. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For orlder ones the free registration doesn't even work. Yet another reason for slashdot to stop posting their articles.

    3. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Fuck linking to NYT. Why the hell are so many /. articles from NYT anyway, when it causes grief to so many of us?

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    4. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by iamhassi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      because the NYT buys a lot of advertising on /.

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    5. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here ya go.

      http://blogs.salon.com/0002501/

    6. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by ZorMonkey · · Score: 1

      I found this. I cant be positive that its the same article, but it seems to be.

    7. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by drewsears · · Score: 1

      Here's a copy of the original article, in case anyone is still looking.

      Thanks, Google!

    8. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by Cloud+9 · · Score: 1
      Why the hell are so many /. articles from NYT anyway, when it causes grief to so many of us?

      Ummm... for the 20 or so (max) comments bitching about NYT articles in comments after one is linking, there are literally thousands of people who just shut up and read the article.

      Maybe you should just stop bitching about it.

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    9. Re:arrrrgh.... NYT by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      you can call it flamebait all you want, but it's the truth. ----

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  4. Jayson Blair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the worst part about the NYT scandal is that it's easy to accuse a bad story of being completely wrong now. All this shows is that somebody is a liar. Which side, I don't know. It's messed up regardless.

    1. Re:Jayson Blair by easychord · · Score: 1

      Hmm, who should I trust?

      The mainstream media that is driven by commercial pressures and has a reputation for disgusting misrepresentation of reality.

      Or on the other hand I could trust a private individual who just doesn't wan't to be thrown to the lions.

      Honestly, in my opinion the people who come away from this looking the worst are slashdot posters. They believed what they read in that article, and with no reflection or pause judged the guy with a series of wafer thin prejudices. More people need to read 1984 and the Principia Discordia and stuff.

      The only thing that surprises me about Jayson Blair is that anyone was surprised by it.

    2. Re:Jayson Blair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

  5. Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thedeacon:

    I'll come right out and say that my future in AO is shaky right now as a result of the slanderous and untrue article posted about me in the New York Times last Thursday. I don't make this post to create more drama, but rather to state my case and also to shed some additional light on what's going on in my life right now in relation to this horrible article.

    Before I go any further, I want to first thank the entire community for all the words of support I received in the past few days. It shows what good people play Anarchy Online, to come to the aid of one of their own. It does make me feel good that you guys don't buy into what that article said, because it's just not true. I'm still reeling in shock over the amount of untrue information was in that article and how certain private issues (bankruptcy) were thrown in that article after the reporter, Seth Schiesel (ingame name Amis) had agreed not release private information such as financial info, school info, etc.

    I got so many wonderful and supportive replies in the forums, through email and through private messages, not to mention the fact that Amis has not had the balls to log into AO since the article broke, so I should feel great, right?

    Well I don't. I did a search on my name, as someone mentioned they had heard about the article from some dutch site. "Dutch site?" I said to myself. So I did a search on my name, both real name and ingame name and I was shocked to find what people were saying about me. It was absolutely crushing to my ego and my self worth, as I know deep in my heart that the article itself was a lie and Seth's motive may have been to exact revenge on me for flaming an old article he did on AO last year

    http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php? s= &threadid=58442 is the link. What I said wasn't even that bad, it was more of a joke, but it bothered Seth enough to mention it to me dozens of times while he was here. That should have been my first clue. This was like right when the Jayson Blair story was breaking, so my guard was down because I hadn't fully read up on the Blair situation.

    You might have noticed I'm not logging in much lately. when I do, I've been trying to pretend like everything is alright, but I get this sinking feeling, a feeling like I'm going to be judged for my online time and it's totally sucked the fun out of the game for me.

    Just reading that article in the Times, looking at the "creative writing" he did and how he left off so much of the positive aspects of my life shows me that he wrote this article with malice. I treated him like family while he was here and he turned around and stabbed me in the back.

    Much of what was in that article that actually was true (VERY little of the article had any truth to it, but things like me filing bankruptcy was infact true) were things I had told him outside of the interview to explain a bit of the situation. Both my wife and I demanded that this be left off the article, which he agreed to. I was told that the article was not about ME per se, but rather a positive article about the online gaming community of AO, as told through my eyes. None of my personal information was to be released in this article. I was lied to, my wife was lied to, my friend stuntiliator who he also interviewed was lied to, and now the world is being lied to via this article.

    I feel raped. There's no other way to describe it. The person described in the Time article is less than pathetic. He's a weak person that gave up on life. And damnit, that just isn't me at all. I'm no recluse, im no social outcast, I'm no mmorpg addict and I'm no quitter.

    7 hours a day. you know what? That's such a load of crap

    I would say it's quite rare that I'm ever online for more than four hours a day. Any longer and it's usually me logged into the chat channel or my character sitting doing nothing while I chat. So why am I on so much? Well figure this: I work from my home. There's the occasional downtime while I'

    1. Re:Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a fucking fag.

  6. NYT... by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    NYT Reporter: May I interview you for a story?
    bull999999: Kiss my ass. I don't trust you guys.

    Next day on NYT

    "HEADLINE: bull999999 of Slashdot is a sickco"
    bull999999 of Slashdot admits that he's a pervert that enjoys strangers giving oral sex to his behind. He also does not trust the media, rather perfers to consult his imaginary friend "Roy" and Slashdot for all his news needs.

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    1. Re:NYT... by wass · · Score: 1
      Actually, that's more of a New York Post kind of headline.

      Anyway, it reminds me of the Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin asks his mom if he can write a story about her for a "newspaper" he's making. She agrees, he asks what she's doing, she says she's making dinner while she's cutting up a fish.

      In the next pane of the comic you see Calvin's article, and the title is "Crazed Knife-Wielding Mother Hacks Icthyoid to Death. 'It's a Daily Custom' says child."

      Calvin and Hobbes was awesome!

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    2. Re:NYT... by crazyphilman · · Score: 1

      But, you forgot the part about "Luckily, bull999999 had a shotgun, a shovel, and a big back yard handy. After the newspaper editor misplaced three reporters in a row, he decided to have his people cover a less dangerous story, like an interview of the head of a doomsday cult about to be raided by the ATF..."

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      Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
  7. Anarchy Online by Zarxos · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I didn't even know that Anarchy Online was that popular. I thought Everquest dominated everything. Oh well, Star Wars Galaxies looks really good and it has a good chance of swallowing up both of them.

    1. Re:Anarchy Online by Scorpio+Blake · · Score: 1

      Not to go too far off topic but SWG isn't what people think it is. I spent the last few months in beta and the game is nowhere near ready to be released though they're releasing it next week. Lots of bugs, and some really bad design flaws that will push a lot of people away.

  8. NYT and journalistic integrity... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

    It's not exactly as if the New York Times is the bastion of journalistic integrity that it likes to think that it is, is it?

    One quick examination of mediagate tells you all you have to know - journalists, even ones that write for the most reputable publications, sometimes lie through their teeth.

    Obviously, the AO player in question doesn't have the financial resources of the NYT and its parent company (market capitalisation in the billions), but perhaps he could find a lawyer who'd be willing to represent him on a "no win, no fee" basis (or perhaps pro bono) if he wanted to take the matter further.

    Normally, I wouldn't recommend litigation, but the player concerned seems to feel that the article was very unfriendly (in his online reply he says he feels like he's been raped) so perhaps the legal route would be good for him, if only to provide a sense of closure.

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    1. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by InferiorFloater · · Score: 1

      "journalists, even ones that write for the most reputable publications, sometimes lie through their teeth."

      If only you were an NYT reporter, then that statement would have some serious irony to it.

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    2. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by dboyles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Normally, I wouldn't recommend litigation, but the player concerned seems to feel that the article was very unfriendly (in his online reply he says he feels like he's been raped) so perhaps the legal route would be good for him, if only to provide a sense of closure.

      Keep in mind that in order to prove that libel was committed, one must prove that (1) something written as fact is false, (2) the person who wrote said misinformation knew it was false, and (3) there existed "actual malice". And if he can prove all of that, he must prove that he suffered actual damages.

      I'm not saying that libel didn't occur, I just don't want anybody to think that all you have to do to win a judgement in your favor is prove that something somebody wrote about you is false.

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      -- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
    3. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      he can probably force a retraction though. Just think if it was published in Europe where he had the right to reply :D

    4. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Libel/slander/defamation of character is almost always easier for a private individual to prove than for a public figure. Take, for instance, the mention of the bankruptcy. (This was true, so it wouldn't really count in this case, but let me use it anyway.) Lets say I tell everyone that you've filed for bankruptcy and its not true. Given that you are a private individual, there is minimal amount of information available about you, your finances, etc. It is reasonable to believe that someone may actually believe me, and either now or at a future time, cause damage (what if a future prospective boss heard this, and denied you a job based on this lie, believing that you were not responsible enough for the position?)

      Now, imagine that I tell everyone I know that Wal-Mart filed for bankruptcy. This would be the same lie, but because of the public face that walmart carries, it would be irrational for anyone to believe that wal-mart had actually gone bankrupt. Thus, it would be more difficult for walmart to show that I had managed to damage them in any way.

      Either way, it generally takes a court to decide if damages had occurred.

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    5. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 1

      From the context of his letter to the NY Times, it appears that the author of the article wrote things out of context, flat out made quotes, and otherwise knowingly lied. The actual malice is perhaps more difficult to prove, but the criticism of the author's original article and his repeated mentionings of it appears to be the cause of the malice.

      If he did lose customers over the story, that is actual damage. Of course, if the NY Times wants to fight this, I'm sure they have quite a few lawyers who could most definitely draw a lawsuit out over a long time and at a large cost. This guy doesn't seem interested in that.

    6. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by IICV · · Score: 1

      But... didn't Wal-Mart really file for bankruptcy? I'm fairly certain I've heard/read something about it within the past six months.

    7. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

      I just don't want anybody to think that all you have to do to win a judgement in your favor is prove that something somebody wrote about you is false.

      For a private figure (which this guy is)regarding a matter not of public concern (which this is not), all he must show is a false statement about him that was published (in the communicated sense of the word) and that it harmed his reputation. Certain things are libel per se, and you don't even have to show any harm, as it is presumed. Falesly stating he has declared bankruptcy would be such a per se libel. So yeah, it's that easy.

      Of course, the NYT will whip out the consent form the guy most likely signed, use the tape recorded interview to show that nothing was false, etc. Lesson: stay away from the media. This guy had a huge ego and let the media come in to "interview" him about how great he is at this mysterious game. Just because he didn't know the times was gonna write a schmuck-piece about it doesn't make it libel (assuming it's all true, of course). He keeps saying there are all these untrue statements, but identifies none. He just didn't like the tone of the piece. I don't blame him. But it's his fault. If he didn't want the reporter to mention something, get the reporter to sign a contract agreeing to not disclose the fact. NDA's aren't only for big evil companies.

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    8. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by xihr · · Score: 1

      To be more accurate, the legal definition of libel varies from state to state and from country to country ... although it's quite true that the elements described in the above comment are often involved, they aren't always, so as usual, take legal advice that you don't pay a lawyer for with a grain of salt. (I doubt that the person in question has much of a case for libel, particularly since he provided information to the interviewer voluntarily.)

    9. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by Sephiro444 · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you check the legal definition (in the United States) of libel, you'll find the plaintiff is not required to prove malicious intent -- it is assumed, should the other criteria be met.

      As I understand it, libelous material must be:
      a) defamatory -- I think, regardless of factuality, a good case can be made that this article is certainly that.

      b) identifiable to a specific person (the plaintiff) -- considering Richard Stenlund is named in and is the focus of the article, this criterion is certainly met.

      and

      c) must be distributed to someone other than the offended party -- I think the NYT fulfills that requirement!

      Although the publication of direct quotes is not admissable as libel, regardless of Mr. Stenlund's requests (yes, he should have had the journalist sign an agreement, but then he likely wouldn't have consented), the doctoring of quotes, as Mr. Stenlund's rebuttal suggested, most definitely is. A recording of the interview, if available, could corroborate that.

      Mr. Stenlund, in my interpretation of libel, definitely has grounds for legal action here. If he can prove the above criteria and show that it has adversely affected his business, he could sue the NYT for damages, eventually recouping the requisite lawyer fees. While I'm less sure of this, he could also potentially bring criminal charges against the author of the article, which given the personal nature of their relationship (according to Mr. Stenlund's rebuttal), might be appropriate.

    10. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he might have something on "actual malice" charge -- why did the NYT send another AO player to interview this guy? Fishy fishy.

      The original article was not that critical, IMO, but it really does sound like the reporter went in with a grudge.

    11. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. WalMart's a very strong company. KMart on the other hand, has been in financial trouble for some time, and has filed for bankruptcy.

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    12. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by crazyphilman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lawyers... God, what wussies we have become. Does anyone else miss the halcyon days of our nation's youth, where a couple of longshoremen could be had for a reasonable fee?

      (longshoreman #1): "Hey, Stu! Look! It's our new friend, the WRITER!"

      (longshoreman #2): "I believe it is, Joe! Hey, WRITER! Ya got any of them long-headed books on ya? C'mere, you..."

      (Writer yelps and takes off.)

      (Longshoreman #1): "Hey, Stu! Gimme that brick..." (throws brick).

      (Writer yelps, falls down, gets grabbed by the longshoremen and dragged into an alley).

      (Longshoreman #1): POUND, POUND, SOCK, SMACK!

      (Longshoreman #2): KICK, KICK, WHACK, SMACK!

      Sigh... We were born in the wrong decade, boys.

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      Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
    13. Re:NYT and journalistic integrity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

  9. Thank goodness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like to say that I'm glad that this was posted. The Deacon from Anarchy Online is nothing like the original article says. He's a really nice guy once you get to know him. The author has a small grudge against him, but Rick (TheDeacon) didn't believe that it would cause him to do this.

    1. Re:Thank goodness... by Atario · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to say, the NYT article didn't make me think this guy is some kind of loser. I think that should carry the weight of a nonbiased observer, coming from someone whose peak of online gaming involvement was "Multiplayer Jeopardy Online!" or "Acrophobia" (anyone remember those?) for a couple hours a week for a month or two. Not exactly Mr. Intarweb Society Supremo.

      There were repeated quotes from various people that he was such a nice guy and he helps people out and everyone loves and admires him and so on. It mentioned he's having some financial difficulties, but hey, who isn't these days? He spends a nontrivial amount of time doing something most people don't? So what? Doesn't nearly everyone? (Particularly everyone reading this right now. I'm looking at you, Gentle Slashdot Reader.) He works, he has a wife...let 'im have his play-time. Such was my reaction.

      Mind you, I have known someone who was truly consumed by this kind of thing; it was a freshman at my college back in '92-'93 (when I was a senior). The guy was clearly unprepared to live on his own effectively. Within a couple of months of the beginning of the year, he was pretty much a fixture in front of his computer, playing MUDs and ordering Domino's. I'm not sure he even attended any classes after awhile. So, clearly, this kind of thing can and does happen, but I by no means got the impression from the NYT article that this was anywhere near the case with this "The Deacon" fella.

      So what am I saying? Simply: No big deal. It's a good item to have in your bag of jokes and/or stories, Mr. Deacon. Something you can tell at barbecues or snicker about over beers with the guys. Move on.

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      "A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
  10. Re:Reality Check! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I laughed my ass off:
    The AO community - your community - loves you. You're one of the most valued, respected and important members of our world - please don't let the idiots get you down.

    Free your Mind, Deke!
  11. MMODTSDG by blair1q · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Massive Multiclicker Offline Due To Slashdotting Game.

  12. Speaking of being raped... by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

    It didn't take long for the /. effect to melt the linked servers.

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    1. Re:Speaking of being raped... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it was just the phpbb forums that're messed up. The Storm page is still running, but I feel bad for whoever pays the bandwidth bill.

  13. Remember Connie Chung? by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She was interviewing a mother of a political figure (I forgot who). After the interview, the mother told Connie off the record that she felt that Hillary Clinton was a bitch. Not suprisingly, that "off the record" comment made it to the news. The moral of this story is that to the reporters, nothing is "off the record".

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    1. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by Jareeedo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe that was Newt Gingrichs' mother.

    2. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by terraformer · · Score: 1
      ...mother of a political figure (I forgot who)...

      Newt Gingrich I believe.

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    3. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was, absolutely. Both parties (Gingrich and Clintons) had a private dinner not too long after, and let the public know about it...a little positive PR to let things blow over (no pun intended toward Clinton). I doubt they had a wonderful dinner conversation, but I'm sure they had a toast to the end of Connie's glory days..

    4. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by Durindana · · Score: 1

      The subject was Barbara Bush, IIRC.

      But anyway: Nothing angers me more than ill-informed accusations maligning the whole profession.

      Except a bad journalist.

      Whether the NYT reporter acted in bad faith is, to put it mildly, unclear. But this reporter, Jayson Blair and Connie Chung are not representative.

      But the vast majority of journalists work long hours, for shit pay and bad benefits, because they feel an obligation to society. Not for money or fame - because we rarely get any of either.

      Your average reporter wants nothing more than to report the truth and, through doing so, somehow "make a difference."

      Please refrain from accusing all of us of misconduct and unprofessionalism. That vast majority of responsible reporters has nothing going for it except the presumption of accuracy and reliability, something we have to earn every day.

    5. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by retro128 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was Newt Gingrich's mom. Connie Chung asked during the interview what Newt thought of Hillary Clinton, but Newt's mom hesitated. So Connie leans in close and says, "well why don't you tell me, just between you and me?", so Newt's mom says "Bitch", and Connie turns around and tells the world.
      Public opinion turned majorly sour on Connie Chung, and it wasn't long before CBS fired her ass.

      Mostly the whole thing was the result of the public view that Newt's mom was victimized by an unscrupulous reporter. Unfortunately I never read the NYT article because I refuse to register, but from the thread provided in this article it seems Deacon was made to look like a total loser in the newspaper.

      I don't really feel sorry for him though. Only one thing can happen when you are living your life in an MMPORG and a newspaper wants to talk to you about your "hobby". It's like the popular kids asking who your favorite X-Man is. The chances are pretty good they don't want to know, and only want to make you look like an idiot. Well newspapers are the same way. If I were in Deacon's position I would have told them to shove off.

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    6. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Please refrain from accusing all of us of misconduct and unprofessionalism. That vast majority of responsible reporters has nothing going for it except the presumption of accuracy and reliability, something we have to earn every day.

      Unfortunately, it's mostly the irresponsible journalists that the public notices...you know: the ones with the camera shoved in the face of a woman who's just learned her kid was killed in a drive-by. "What's it feel like to lose your house in a flood?" "Do you support the war in which your only son was shot dead?" Paparazzi.

      Obviously, these images do not characterize the serious and dedicated journalist who make real contributions, but the evening news and supermarket tabloids carry disproportionate weight as a result of their ubiquity.

    7. Re:Remember Connie Chung? by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      "Ma, how many times do I have to tell you? Connie Chung is EVIL!"

  14. Poor, poor, loser by poopdik · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So.. he's wrapped his whole life around this game, someone made fun of him.. and now he's crying and threatening lawsuits? Maybe he should at the very least find a different game to play.. or do something else entirely.

    1. Re:Poor, poor, loser by SunPin · · Score: 1

      Because I don't equate "troll" and "disagreement", I'll assume you are quite serious about your statement.

      It's one thing to be made fun of. It's quite another to have the entire world know about it. The foot fetish thing smacks of malicious intent by the reporter and will probably cost the Times a load of money before this is all over.

      I think he's a loser also but if it wasn't for the Times, I wouldn't have given it another thought. Neither would anyone else.

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    2. Re:Poor, poor, loser by poopdik · · Score: 1

      Your comments are especially funny considering your signature. I just realized that. :)

    3. Re:Poor, poor, loser by SunPin · · Score: 1

      Glad you liked it. It's the dead giveaway that I don't take Slashdot too seriously.

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  15. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're in seattle, so all we need to know now is your age and sex.

  16. Raped? Please, muthafucka. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comments like the ones this loser spouts trivialize those who have actually been raped. I hope he dies a lonely bitter person.

    1. Re:Raped? Please, muthafucka. by 401k · · Score: 0

      He plays online roleplaying games for seven hours a day! By definition, he's already a lonely, bitter person!

  17. What a fucking loser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope he dies lonely and bitter. Loser.

    1. Re:What a fucking loser. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 1

      Says the AC.

  18. Journalists and horses by SunPin · · Score: 1

    It's deeper than that. Journalists are cannibals if that's what it takes for them to write another day. Years ago, I ran the community college paper and we got caught between some nasty politics. The Palm Beach Fish Wrap's beat reporter decided that keeping his plush lunches for fluff stories was better than telling the truth about how we were getting fscked left and right. It took their competitor's alternative paper XS to set the record straight. Worked out nicely in the end but it was appalling to watch my "elders" attempt to take me down. An eye opening experience. Journalists are fine for trust but only after something significant over time. There's a Spanish saying that translates roughly to "your only friends are the ones you've stolen horses with." True, true.

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    1. Re:Journalists and horses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      HEADLINE: Slashdot user SunPin admits to being a Spanish horse thief!

    2. Re:Journalists and horses by SunPin · · Score: 1

      An AC made me laugh. That was funny. Wish you used your real name. Anyway, you know who you are. Thanks. :)

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  19. He said... by 1984 · · Score: 5, Funny
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    Hell, that's what most geeks say when normal people ask them about their lifestyle.

  20. Anarchy Online by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

    (Couldnt read the story, the site was already slashdoted.)_

    I played anarchy online when it first came out, figured it would be a nice change from magic based mmpogs. Even a few buddies bought it, so we tried to play a couple hours together after work online.

    When it first came out, it had major problems. GFX, Sound, crashs. Tried for 3 months, but the headaches, i finally gave it up. So did everyone I knew.

    Now awhile later, and a free week from AO, figured I would retry it. 2ghz cpu's and ati's 9700 and the the game runs smoothly, but Its dated. The main thrill of playing with friends and family is gone, nobody will touch the game again. Starting over killing leets is not a thrill.

    I also tried the Beta of Planetside, another failure (imho). Maybe starwars galaxy will be the one.

    Of course with halo, counterstrike2, halflife2, doom3 coming out on PC, wont be any time for any a mmpog.

  21. Re:get a grip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You call him a loser, and you post on slashdot?!?

  22. The New York Times... by Psx29 · · Score: 1

    is just headed downhill ever since the top editors have resigned and certain things have been exposed...I really have lost my respect for them as a quality publication

  23. Register at NYT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...wouldn't this be a good reason to add a fake account login and password to every future /. link that sends me to a you-have-to-register-to-read article in the NYT?

    Well, I guess this will be modded/censored down faster than any of the slashdot staff can explain why(!) ;-)

  24. Thanks for reminding me of how much... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love PERL

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    1. Re:Thanks for reminding me of how much... by xihr · · Score: 1

      Uh, right. Like the fault lies with PHP. It's more likely the fault lies with the machine being out of memory, process space, or disk space, or something else environmental. If the machine had hit its ceiling from being slashdotted, a Perl-based system would have failed too.

  25. nice thing that /. has linked to this article by efuseekay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One reason I still read /.

    Although filled with usual bull, sometimes it does give the little guy a bigger voice.

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  26. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    13f

  27. reality by Fubar411 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the guy thought he would make it repairing computers out of his apartment. They're going through some financial difficulties and his wife stands by him. Then what does he do, but plunge himself into this video game where he is a god and the part time gamers have to do things like have their feet sucked and put up with his sexual ennuendos.

    The guy denies it, but from what I've read in the article, his original posts, and now this, he's in serious denial. He should be out there looking for a better job, honing skills, getting some education, loading boxes for UPS, whatever to get motivated to improve himself.

    Instead he is playing the victim, getting lots of attention, probably spending even more time in this pseudo-reality.

    I feel for his wife, this isn't the behavior of a life partner.

    1. Re:reality by bluetrident · · Score: 1

      Fubar hit it on the head. the economy sucks, IT balked, anyone who didn't decide to graduate with a CS or MIS degree got canned. i've been busting ass between delivering pizzas, tech support, and developing small business websites just to make the ends meet. and the don't always justify the . anyone can escape--it just takes someone dedicated to make it.

    2. Re:reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm. I had a rather _good_ impression of the fella after reading the orignal article...

      Now -- after reading that letter -- NOW I think he's a loser...

      IMO, _nobody_ should talk to reporters... guys like this, with _no_ sense of proportion, _definitely_ shouldn't....
      I wonder if he thinks anyone at the NYT actually read that mail. I sure hope he didn't wait by the phone for the guy to call him....

      The best thing I can hope for this guy is that the "millions of people" whom he falsely believes "think he's a loser" NEVER see that letter. Ironically, he'd probably like to personally hand a copy to everyone who saw the Times article (and stand over them while they read it....)

      Okay, dude: you're not blue collar; you think television is dreadfully superficial, and you're errmmm... going to Vegas?

      Say 'hi' to Wayne Newton for me, and don't forget the neediest Elvis impersonators during the holiday season!

    3. Re:reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but his tragedy makes the rest of our lives look all that much more rich.

    4. Re:reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

  28. Off the record.... by HowlinMad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    YOu have to be careful about off the record. For example, in the Connie Chung instance, the mom told Connie Chung she thought Hilary Clinton was a bitch, but there was a camera man there.... So later Connie Chung "asks" the camera man if he knows how the mom feels about Hilary Clinton. He was never told anything off the record, and so he can tell Connie Chung. There are other shady ways that this can happen as well. I for one would be interested in know what the NYT actual, not the one they feed you, off the record policy is.

    1. Re:Off the record.... by Paleomacus · · Score: 1

      I'm fuzzy on this 'off the record' stuff. Is it an actual legal or moral flag that marks a comment as 'for reporter only'? I thought it was more like when people say something that could be taken as a slight and say 'no offense'.

      I don't really know what I mean. It just seems like a way to protect yourself from your own opinion.

    2. Re:Off the record.... by enjo13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would bet (and this is just a guess) that the amount of respect they pay to 'off the record' comments is directly related to the chance that they'll need quotes/interviews from you in the future.

      Some guy who plays computer games likely has no off the record priviliges. On the other hand, someone like President Bush likely has all of the leeway that he could possibly want. It's simple economics really... they can afford to piss off the gamer.

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  29. off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Cornelius+Chesterfie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I played a MUD (www.actofwar.com) in the year 2000 or so for the first time in my life after learning about it in IRC. It's a PK (Player Killing) game where you level up and group with other players from your city, to attack the players of one of the 3 other cities. It was addictive as hell, and rewards smart and fast thinking. I'd spend over 12 hours a day playing it. Nothing I could do could stop it...I'd delete my char (it's not very long to level) sometimes, only to make new ones. When there were no enemies on, instead of logging off I'd start a new char from a different class or run the monsters for good equipment.

    Over a year later I decided I'd had enough, gave away my chars and deleted ZMUD and never went there again. That's about the same time my friend lended me his Diablo 2 + Expansion CDs with a virgin CD key, and BAM! It started all over again. The first week I was a newbie trying to figure out where to go and how to do things, and 2 months later (due to inredible luck from the random item drops) I'm a rich-as-hell elite possessing the rarest bow in the game, and even though I wasn't having any fun, the preciousness (sp) of those virtual items was way too much to just abandon it all. However eventually the same same scenario happened again: I suddenly realized I was wasting my life, gave away the items, and deleted.

    As I type this now, I'm addicted to laziness. I spend my time playing old PC games, games of older consoles via emulation, and downloading music and porn off Kazaa. Once again it's time for a purge except this time it'll be more radical. I'm backing up whatever personal things I've gathered over the years (wacky pictures, rom collections, sex pictures I'm particularly fond of, irc logs, etc) to view again 10 years from now since this is basically the only memories I'll have of my late teenager years, and then I'mformatting my hard drive and giving the computer to my sister.

    If anyone else than me has gaming fucking up their life, I suggest they do the same. It might seem too radical, but you don't need that PC, no matter how big a geek you are (and I doubt you're a bigger geek than me), unless you're choosing a career down the road.

    1. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...no matter how big a geek you are (and I doubt you're a bigger geek than me)...

      I've got a lower UID, so you can just fuck off, Mister Wanna Be.

    2. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha the true sign that someone has been around slashdot a long time is that they almost always post AC

    3. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Wehesheit · · Score: 0

      what the hell is wrong with playing on the computer? Where should we be? At the Mall? I'm 21 and i almost never leave my computer(s), I read books on here, i play games, watch movies, and learn. I also work outside the house and go to the gym and have had a g/f for nearly 5 years. Being an uber computer geek does not make you a fuckup, being a fuckup makes you a fuckup. I for one am sick and tired of people labeling me as a lazy ass bastard because i spend a shitload of my time on computers. I'm 100% totally addicted to computers and computer games and what exzactly is wrong with my life? "If anyone else than me has gaming fucking up their life, I suggest they do the same. It might seem too radical, but you don't need that PC, no matter how big a geek you are (and I doubt you're a bigger geek than me), unless you're choosing a career down the road." Gaming does not fuck up your life, if you have a job and pay for things yourself and have friends(online COUNTS) then why the hell should you have to give up something you like to do? That's total bullshit, I think you need to stop listening to all the "being a geek is a waste of your life" people and do what you like to do.

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    4. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      ummm...ok
      so what are you going to do with your life
      i seriouslly doubt a computer is the fundamental root of your laziness

      maybe
      goto school
      get a job
      find some friends
      unplugging the pc is a start, but...as youve proven before-youll be right back to another addiction if you dont have it replaced with something positive.

    5. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by archen · · Score: 1

      I for one am sick and tired of people labeling me as a lazy ass bastard because i spend a shitload of my time on computers.

      Well there's a difference between what he's talking about and what you're talking about. I got stuck on Everquest for a while, and while I've always been into games, I've never wasted such a large portion of time per day. The key term here is wasting time because getting some crap sword in a game isn't really "productive". Gaming for entertainment is fine, but there's a gray area for just becoming a loser =P . Same goes for instant messenging, or many other things. Saying you're addicted to computers comes with a bad connotation of wasting time because that's what most people do with a computer.

      Saying "I was on the computer all night" to a person and they assume you were just surfing for porn or something. Saying "I was up til 3 am writing a program" to a person usually gets a more "favorable" response. But either way you tend to waste your life if that's all you do and you have no variety.

    6. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd recommend you seek advice for counseling/medication from your family practitioner with regards to depression. From what you wrote, Iâ(TM)m fairly certain this might be the underlying problem for your computer woes. Getting rid of your computer will not solve your problem. Getting professional help will. Depression vented through a computer (antisocial behavior) is actually a problem a lot of people have and folks just write it off as laziness/addiction. Do the right thing--help yourself while you are young.

    7. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one part is to learn that life is more than a hedonistic pursuit of video games... do something bigger than yourself.

    8. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah? Like what?

      Bigger than yourself? Sounds like crap to me. I think living your own life is sufficently big enough.

    9. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by snowlick · · Score: 1

      I'm a rich-as-hell elite possessing the rarest bow in the game

      Ah, windforce. v1.10 will be coming out soon, the channels are abuzz.

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    10. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I though I had Mono for a year. It turned out I was just bored." -- Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

      Buddy it sounds like you're spinning you wheels looking for a mission in life. Once you figure out what you want to do, games and such will fall by the wayside.

      Good Luck

    11. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computers, cars, curing cancer, etc. They are all the same! Each keep you busy, each have some sort of good use, and so on. You just need to control yourself. Don't fix up your "hot rod" all day, and don't download porn all day.

    12. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with purging oneself of gaming/internet is that, like any withdrawal from addiction, a void is life is created that had been filled by the addiction.

      before addiction can stop, something positive must fill in the void. this is the hard part; you can't just quit cold turkey and expect the cravings to stop; something must take its place and fill the gap.

      but how can you find something positive to fill the gap while living the depressing suburban dream or locked into the first year of a numbing college "career"? and how do you connect with other people when other people ignore you for your awkwardness qua awkwardness? to escape from reality: isn't that why you really took to liking gaming in the first place?

      it's not easy to do; it's difficult to reverse years of praticing the art of escaping reality. habit makes you excel at whatever it is you practice, whether this habit be good or bad.

      it is possible to recover. if you can find the right sort of people and the right type of environment. it's possible, i think.

    13. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically, join a cult. They'll be glad to have you.

    14. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If possible, see a specialist (i.e., a psychiatrist) rather than a general practitioner. A G.P. is less well equipped to judge about medications etc.

    15. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Steeltoe · · Score: 1

      Check out the link in my sig. A course should be located near you, it's international. I recommend it heartily, and you seem to be ready for it now. There's so much in life that is supposed to be fun, but the real fun is genuine and not artificial.

      Good luck!

    16. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd recommend you seek advice for counseling/medication from your family practitioner with regards to depression.

      As another person says, better to talk to a specialist. That's because a GP isn't likely to know a heck of a lot more about the topic than somebody who has done a little reading; they are busy people, and medicine is a huge field.

      A specialist will be less likely to make the standard flavor-of-the-month diagnosis: "It's depression! Here's Prozac! Next patient, please!" Although depression can lead people into addictions, it's not the only thing. Also a psychiatrist will be more likely to get you to somebody to provide the necessary therapy. Medication can help with underlying chemical problems in the same way that surgery can help remove the cause of a limp. But removing the original cause isn't enough; as anybody who's had knee surgery can tell you, physical therapy is a must to bring things back to a balanced, functioning whole.

    17. Re:off-topic, but regarding gaming addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The condition that best describes my situation is Dysthymia. This situation doesn't sound much different, though the poster provided not much detail.

      Probably worth reading up on...

  30. Morale of the story by Junky191 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When dealing with journalists, get *everything* in writing. Just saying "don't put this in print, okay?" "okay" is worth absolutely nothing. Life 101.

    1. Re:Morale of the story by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I honestly don't see why people are so surprised. This is what Journalists do. Story: Anarchy Online Player is an obsessed perv sells alot more papers than Anarchy Online player is just like everyone else, and this wouldn't even be a story if it involved beer and football instead of a Computer game and the Internet. Primarily, a journalists job is to keep his job, by selling papers. Welcome to the real world. There are no Clark Kents or Edison Carters. Well maybe one or two, but chances are they don't get read much.

      I believe it was Salman Rushdie that said/wrote: "Writers and Whores. I see no difference between the two."...Hey that sounds like a good sig.

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    2. Re:Morale of the story by xihr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Better yet, simply don't tell them what you'd rather them not know. (They may find out independently, but that's another story.) If you tell them something that you didn't want them to know and they publish it for the whole world to see, you've only yourself to blame.

  31. More Text by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    NYTimes.com, with its usual economic stupidity, has priced its archived content past what anybody will pay for it. This guy has the article into his blog. Read it now before the lawyers notice it!

    As for the accusations from TheDeacon: OK, the article was painfully sensationalistic. But there's no libel here. Yeah, they paint a picture of him and his life, he doesn't like. Yeah, they put stuff in the article about his financial situation he wanted to keep private. But there's no real misinformation. Just interpretations TheDeacon doesn't like.

    Get real, dude. Nobody sees a person as they see themselves. And no competent journalist will let the subject of an interview have editorial input. If you want your life to be private, be more careful who you talk to.

    1. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but since he is a private individual and not a public figure, he may very well have a case.

    2. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A case for what, though?

    3. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More succinct letters to the editor?

    4. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, I concur. I've written newspaper articles. I have edited and published newspaper articles.

      Never have I seen a story go by my desk where the peope in the article liked their portrayal.

      Newspapers, reporting, it's all shit. And if you think this NYTimes article is an anomaly... you're dreaming. Every single article you read misrepresents people in the same way.

      I don't consider newspapers to be a primary source of information. People who do are irresponsible. Newspapers are entertainment.

    5. Re:More Text by psxndc · · Score: 1
      I took a journalism class and as one of my assignments was "Everyday Heroes". I decided to interview a member of the now defunt "Daily Entertainment Network". The girl spent her day giving people, mainly teenage geeks, dating and life advice. The summary I just gave doesn't really do her justice. She helped a lot of people everyday and gave people a forum to ask honest questions and get honest answers. When I submitted the article, my journalism professor called it fluff. Maybe it was. But what he wanted was the story about the girl who was fed intimate details about people everyday, yet kept HER life secret. Like any professional counselor, she didn't share her personal life and instead made her job about the people she was helping. It really soured me on the whole journalism system because my professor always emphasised "the story behind the story", but at the cost of the story's subject. I don't know. Yeah, my article was probably fluff about an "everyday hero". But I'd rather write fluff than trash someone trying to help people while not revealing they're own private details. Blech

      psxndc

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    6. Re:More Text by falloutboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      fm6 wrote:
      And no competent journalist will let the subject of an interview have editorial input.


      That isn't necessarily correct. There are often times that a source wishes to remain anonymous. For example, the identity of Woodward and Bernstein's "deep throat" was kept secret when they broke the Watergate scandal.

      For a journalist, cultivating sources means cultivating trust. In many instances, people are dying to talk, to get their name in the press (for example, Linda Tripp). In many other instances, people with valuable information may need to be assured of a certain level of control with regard to the information they divulge. A journalist who expects to do more than one story with a source that trusts them absolutely must respect boundaries.
    7. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

    8. Re:More Text by TPIRman · · Score: 1

      Respecting boundaries is entirely different from editorial input. Tailoring a story to cultivate stories is a judgment call on the part of the reporter -- s/he makes the choice of whether to write the story in a certain way to respect the source. This is understood by the reader. When a newspaper reader sees a quote sourced to a "senior Bush administration aide," there is an implication that Powell/Rumsfeld/whoever has given the information under certain conditions. There is also the implication that the reporter has decided the information was worth the sacrifice. Both sides of the deal are obvious to the reader.

      Note that the reader (rightly) assumes that all editorial decisions were made by the reporter and the editorial staff of the newspaper. It is acceptable for a reporter to make accommodations for sources that are at least partially transparent to the reader. But it is extremely poor journalism for the reporter to give a source decision-making power as to what goes in/out of the article, or how a certain issue is framed -- these decisions are entirely the domain of the reporter and editors. There is an unspoken but critical agreement between the paper and the readers that the reporter chooses what to report and accepts the consequences.

      This is the distinction between savvy source management and allowing sources to have editorial input.

    9. Re:More Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are actually about three real levels of journalisting quoting.
      1) John Smith, CEO at Microsoft said.
      2) A reliable source at Microsoft said.
      3) A reliable source ,that would like to be kept anonymous, working for a big software company said.
      Dan

  32. MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how the fuck is a review from 2001 supposed to contriubute anything informative in the context of this thread?

    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Methinks the answer to your question is related the answer to this one:

      How many of those who modded my post interesing have actually clicked the link?

  33. The sad part. by LouSir · · Score: 1

    The sad part is will we never know the truth. We are all taking a side based on whichever lie sounds better. One we can identify with. The truth is probably part of both stories. But, we'll never know which. Commence arguing. LouSir

    1. Re:The sad part. by xihr · · Score: 1

      Profound. You know, in the real world, you never know what the truth about any human affairs are, because you only hear the story from different people who are fallible.

    2. Re:The sad part. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, I can only hope to understand people by how they present themselves, and Judging by his posts here and elsewhere, he comes across like a little child with a bruised ego.

      That is how he represents himself, regardless of what was said in the Times. Without his pathetic attempts at flaming, I could believe he was handed a raw deal from a reporter, like so many others. But man, spewing out pages upon pages of self righteous garbage gives me a better glimpse into who he is than any article could hope to.

      Immature, self centered amd sociallly inept. The irony is that if he'd have just kept his mouth shut, he would have ended up looking better.

    3. Re:The sad part. by xihr · · Score: 1

      No argument there; the misery he is going through now is largely, if not almost totally, his own doing.

  34. It's always sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    when a real loser realizes that he is a loser.. Let this be a warning shot for the rest of you out there, it's tough to look in the mirror and be 100% honest. I liked the 4 hours part in particular. Like there is that much difference between 7 hours and 4 hours either way you're pissing your life away. buddy, go out, hire a hooker and get yourself laid! Try doing something in the sunlight, it's good for you!

    "hehe, no I don't usually jerkoff 15 times a day, usually only about 8 or 9 times.. hehe, I'm not like that, I've got a life and I'm pretty good with the ladies hehe, I'm not one of those losers.."

    1. Re:It's always sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's married, asshole. Just because you need to pay hookers doesn't mean everyone else is a loser like you.

  35. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't know that...explains alot...

  36. That's more than he said to me... by psoriac · · Score: 1

    When I tried to see what he said he didn't even respond! Just gave me a blank page instead.

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  37. Maybe this is one of those situations... by HornyBastard77 · · Score: 1

    ... where something like this would be a good idea?

  38. Re:get a grip by ergo98 · · Score: 1

    ...ergo he is a loser...

    That's it buddy! You're going down!

    Seriously, though, the majority of average Joe's spend 4 or more days watching television every night, and that is absolutely okay. In the grand hierarchy of "worthwhile things to do", I'd cast playing a highly social, challenging, creative online game several parsecs above mindless sitcom watching. (I'm not trying to claim that you're supporting television watching, but am just pointing out the hypocrisy of media types that point out what to them is "unhealthy" periods of computer time ["Addiction!"] to a readership that is largely sedentary couch warts).

  39. How would you feel by 3770 · · Score: 1

    if you were slandered in the New York Times?

    What if everyone you know read the article and go "Hmm... maybe he _is_ a pervert?". Would you not feel bad? Would you try to defend yourself? If you defended yourself, would you then think it was unfair if someone said it was "Drama!!!".

    It doesn't matter that it is about a game. This guy was violated.

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    1. Re:How would you feel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would feel strange since slander is spoken, not printed.

    2. Re:How would you feel by dhowe01 · · Score: 1

      Violated? Hardly
      Deac had an unflattering NYT article written about him, and he is prolonging the embarassment by constantly posting about it.
      In a way, he is supporting the writer's suggestion that his life is unfulfilled and consumed by AO.

      Deac should just let it go, and forget about it. We would have by now.

    3. Re:How would you feel by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      CAREFULL! They might mod you flamebait for that!

      To reply to the reply from my original post, eat me, I never said anything about it being fair he was libeled, I said the whole dramatic nonesense in his artice AND his forum thread were ridiculous "my status in the community is in jeopardy" omg, GET OVER IT. People say stupid, false, hurtful sh!t all the time, it's life, you deal with it, move on, and learn to ignore those people because they have their heads up their a$$es....if saying that makes me flamebait then, color me shocked, from the mature /. community of mods.

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      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
  40. AO Junkie by The-Isz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >>7 hours a day. you know what? That's such a load of crap

    >>I would say it's quite rare that I'm ever online for more than four hours a day.

    Ummm...did anyone else find this amusing? It was as if saying "Hey! I'm not a junkie! I only shoot up a couple of times a day!"

    I was sympathetic to his story...until I read that.

    As for the NYT report, I have no idea what transpired, and maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle (as it usually is). I DO know several newspaper reporters who after an interview get irrate calls saying:

    interviewee: "I didn't say that!"

    reporter: "Actually I have it on tape, and my notes...that's exactly what you said word-for-word."

    interviewee: "Ok..but... that's not what I meant!"

    Conversation, when written out, can end up sounding very different to a reader who is divorced from the event/situation. It happens all the time.

    1. Re:AO Junkie by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      It sounds like he just started getting goons calling him a loser and got annoyed. I can understand that, every so often there's one of those Something Awful awful link-of-the-day things that isn't all that bad, and I kinda feel sorry for the flood of "UR teh geyh!" shit that's gonna burn up their guestbook/email whatever.

      It sounds like the reporter changed the target of his story once he started writing, which isn't terribly unusual, especially for a human interest thing like this. Deacon was expecting an impersonal sort of thing that focused on the game, the Times prefered the personal angle, and Deacon didn't like the way his life came out when it was boiled down to a few hundred words. He'll get over it. I was misquoted as a random man-on-the-street in the NY Daily News a year or two ago, (seriously, not just my bad memory, they changed 5 or so words to a rambling paragraph on a tangentially-related subject) made me sound like a fucking illiterate baboon, but that's the way it goes. This is a bit worse, but it's not like he came across as THAT much of a loser in the article. Computer guy, got pinched by the bust, filled in free time with games. That's about 3/4 of /. for fuck's sake. I think the 13 year olds just got to him.

  41. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woah, a female. This AC FUCKS TONIGHT.

  42. Summary: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Pathetic loser is approached by New York Times reporter and is tickled so pink by the attention from a major media outlet that he goes on and on about what it's like being a pathetic loser.

    2. Article comes out and loser realizes that his 15 minutes of fame isn't worth being outed as a pathetic loser.

    3. Loser, being pathetic and having neither a concept of personal dignity nor any idea how to handle situations in which the social acumen of an adult is required, throws a hissy fit and goes off on the NYT reporter, the /. crowd, random strangers who call him a loser, etc.

    4. Two months later, the world has moved on. The pathetic loser still blames the world instead of himself for being a dumbass. Oh yeah, and he's still pathetic. EL FIN.

    1. Re:Summary: by jimsxe · · Score: 1

      You are a frickin genius!

      You cant have hit the nail any truer than that

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  43. Re:First Post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    exit(EXIT_FAILURE);

  44. Re:get a grip by S.Lemmon · · Score: 1

    4 or more days a night! Darn, These "Joes" you speak of have some mighty amazing viewing skills! Why just the atemporality of it alone is astonishing. I have enough trouble just cramming 24 hours into a whole day.

  45. Yeah, right by xihr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think people who claim they feel like they've been "raped" when they haven't actually been sexually assaulted need a refresher course on exactly what rape is.

    Substituting "I feel raped" for "My feeling have been hurt" is an exaggeration of unimaginable proportions, and only manages to make the person in question look foolish.

    1. Re:Yeah, right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you need a refresh course on the definition of rape. It's not just sexual assault

    2. Re:Yeah, right by DrSbaitso · · Score: 2, Informative

      from a sexual assault website:
      "There are many types of sexual assault, including rape, forced sodomy (anal intercourse), and forced oral copulation (oral-genital contact), rape by a foreign object (forced penetration by a foreign object, including a finger), and sexual battery (the unwanted touching of an intimate part of another person for the purpose of sexual arousal)."

      All rapes are sexual assaults. Not all sexual assaults are rapes. You are the one needing a refresher course. I thought the parent's comment was quite apt.

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    3. Re:Yeah, right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not all rapes are sexual assault. Try looking for a definition that's NOT on a sexual assault web site.

      From dictionary.com.. note # 2 and 3

      rape1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rp)
      n.
      1) The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
      2) The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
      3) Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

    4. Re:Yeah, right by cyranose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Having had same thing happen to me (in a book, libeling me, etc...) "rape" is the perfect word for the feeling. No one is saying it's the same as physical rape -- the legal punishments are totally different, for one thing. But the _feeling_ was that I was totally powerless, ruined, damaged, ashamed, unworthy of self respect and contunially subject to someone who could to run over my life with a steamroller; like someone had bent me over and rammed me against my will, and they kept on doing it, over and over. That's really how it feels.

    5. Re:Yeah, right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who are you to say whether someone's feelings are valid. He's just describing the way he feels, don't be so pedantic.

  46. AOTheDeacon's original response (formatted) by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
    Obviously AOTheDeacon didn't bother to hit the 'preview' button when he posted, because he really did separate it into paragraphs... It's really obvious when I read the raw html... So obvious that I just grabbed the text and viewed it in VI. The next thing I did was
    :%s/^ *$/<P>/

    Other than that, this is his post, unedited. I don't think it just makes it more readable, I think it actually makes it seem more coherent.

    On thing I'll add: If this really was the deacon posting, I'll guess that he was still shell-shocked by the NYT article, pissed off at the press in general and found slashdot as the first place to express his anger/frustration. His posting on 'storm' seems a good bit more coherent, and makes a better read.

    What's below is his words, not mine.
    ____________

    Last year I cleared just under $100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGLOLROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

    If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a $50 game and $200 in clothes that day?

    Easy. The guy lied.

    I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

    Here's what I see you people writing:

    "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

    the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

    You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

    Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

    I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

    Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

    Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

    I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

    People, get your collective heads out of your asses and don't be so naive......The article was a lie. Seth Schiesel (aka Amis ingame) harbored a grudge over an AO article I picked apart nearly a year back. His writing has the flow of an 8th grade essay and structure to match. You know the Times has to be hurting for talent and news when they make a post about a video game.

    Really people, log off your super admin whatever Linux geek shit for a sec and think about it. Take a good hard look at your own hobbies and think about it again. Let's see: you spend all day arguing about Windows versus Linux on what it by far the nerdiest webpage in existence, based on what I've read so far today.

    Look at the news post icons, look at the topics. Fuck man, look at yourself.

    this is me: http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/juneau/RickS.JPG

    Now post your pics. The people flaming me are

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    1. Re:AOTheDeacon's original response (formatted) by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

      Is that Slashdot user "AOTheDeacon" really him?

      I mean, there's a crapload of posts from the account that make Derek Smart look mature.

      Maybe it's just somebody playing the crowd. If that's not the case then, well, everything makes sense.

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      The ratio of people to cake is too big
    2. Re:AOTheDeacon's original response (formatted) by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

      (Note: I am operating under the assumption that this really is the person mentioned in the story, I have no way to affirm or disprove this)

      Coherant or not, this guy sounds like an angry 13 year old. To me, this whole post boils down to "Oh ya? Who wants some? I'll kick all your assess! I am the awsomest!!" IT sounds like the short guy in school that was always going around talking shit as if he was better than everyone. This leads me to believe that there is more truth than fiction in the orignal article. I cannot see someone who is as well off and well adjusted as this guy claims to be flying off teh handle as a bunch of /. geeks. I can see getting mad at the Times, of course, but more an icy, vengence kind of angry. To fly off and threaten and brag like this implies to me a very low level of maturatiy and social competence, almost certianly couple with self esteem problems. Hence I would be generally inclined agree that this person probably not in a good situation and is in denial of reality.

      Of course, this could just be a troll. Also I could be mistaken, it is possable to be successful and still have no social skills or emotional control, but it is rare.

    3. Re:AOTheDeacon's original response (formatted) by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      Coherant or not, this guy sounds like an angry 13 year old. To me, this whole post boils down to "Oh ya? Who wants some? I'll kick all your assess! .....

      Like I said: If you read his (more coherent and reasoned) comments pointed to in the main article, it's clear that he feels upset, betrayed, etc.

      These posts were done soon after the NYT article went out, so if this was really him, he would still have been in the middle of the shock and upset. It's easy to look at those posts and think "what a childish response", but try recording the next four arguments with your Significant Other or close family member before you seriously suggest that you would do better under similar circumstances.

      I, for one, would like to think that I would do better, but I'm not sure I'd bet my life on it.

      Having been on the inside of some reasonably high-profile news events, I can say that the media can get things very wrong -- sometimes willfully so. The first time I realized just how bad it could get, I was in shock for a while.

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      Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
  47. Just hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This hopeless addict don't do something stupid to himself over this... Either way the whole affair will be forgotten in one week (if it's not already forgotten).

  48. His real problem. by Mir322 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not staying anonymous.

    He's let a game (and its related interpersonal associations) ruin his ego, his financial well being, and general happyness.

    Maybe this is a no brainer. Maybe saying this is akin to saying, i told you so. Hell, call it a troll. But gee, you know...

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    "There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness."- Friedrich Nietzsche
  49. so, who cares? by xeeno · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why is this news?

    1. Re:so, who cares? by rknop · · Score: 1

      Why is this news? Because there was a previous Slashdot story on this.

      If the guy really was poorly treated by the NY Times, then Slashdot owes it to him to have a front page story setting the record straight. Otherwise Slashdot would be an unwitting accessory in parrotting the NY Times article. (And, yeah, while there's the comments which may be the opportunity to set things straight, the comments don't have nearly the prominence that the front page headlines do, and not everybody reads them.)

      -Rob

  50. The Real MMORPG Gaming Story Is... by golemite · · Score: 1

    SWG's Beta NDA lifted.. and the fallout. Where's the beef?

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  51. *sigh* by siyavash · · Score: 1

    *sigh* ...slashdotters...can't do anything else but complaining and bitching... heh...

  52. Here is his first response, reformatted by RLiegh · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here's his first post, reformatted for easier reading after doing a ^U on this link

    Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

    Let me ask you this:

    If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

    Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

    Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

    "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

    Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

    Rent: $645/mo
    Cable: $60/mo
    Internet: $50/mo
    car: $299/mo
    Insurance: $shit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
    Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
    AO: $12.95/mo
    Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly $500 a month.
    Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

    Last year I cleared just under $100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGLOLROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

    If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a $50 game and $200 in clothes that day?

    Easy. The guy lied.

    I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

    Here's what I see you people writing:

    "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

    the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

    You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

    Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

    I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

    Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

    Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

    I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

    People, get your collective heads out of your asses and don't be so naive......The article was a lie. Seth Schiesel (aka Amis ingame) harbored a grudge over an AO article I picked apart nearly a year back. His writing has the flow of an 8th grade essay and structure to match. You know the Times has to be hurting for talent and news when they make a post about a video game.

    Really people, log off your super admin whatever Linux geek shit for a sec and think about it. Take a good hard look at your own hobbies and think about it again. Let's see: you spend

    1. Re:Here is his first response, reformatted by Jardine · · Score: 1

      I just looked at the picture and I'm pretty sure I saw him on a show called Red Dwarf.

  53. misquoting is common and not necessarily malicious by Baric · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was sent a C&D letter from MLB Properties last summer concerning my website and was subsequently interviewed by several different newspapers within a week or so. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them misquoted me. The most common error was paraphrasing something I said, but maybe not exactly the same, and then placing quote marks around it as if I had uttered those exact words. One New York paper even inserted grammatical errors into sentences I never spoke! The key thing is that I believe all of these reporters were composing stories from memory rather than tape. About a month after the initial wave of publicity, a reporter in the Philly area (Harrisburg?) named David Jones contacted me for an interview. The first thing I did was relate my previous misquotes and asked if he was using a tape recorder. He was, and he produced a very accurate and fair story. Sometimes what looks like malicious reporting could be nothing more than sloppiness.

  54. What actually happened was... by funwithBSD · · Score: 2, Informative

    Taken from here

    Chung: "Mrs. Gingrich, what has Newt told you about President Clinton?"
    Kathleen: "Nothing. And I can't tell you what he said about Hillary."
    Chung: "You can't?"
    Kathleen: "I can't."
    Chung, leaning forward: "Why don't you just whisper it to me. Just between you and me."
    Kathleen, leaning in and whispering: "âShe's a bitch.â(TM)"
    Chung: "Really? That's the only thing he ever said about her."
    Kathleen: "That's the only thing he ever said about her. I think they had some meeting, she takes over."
    Chung: "She does?"
    Kathleen: "Oh Yeah, yeah. But when Newtie's there, she can't."

    For some odd reason, she was fired, not the producer of the segment. The page has a link to a realplayer clip if you care.

    Mrs. Gingritch was very naive, to say the least, after all, she was talking to the wife of Maury Povitch!

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    Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
  55. Misrepresentation vs Interpretation by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

    >Every single article you read misrepresents people in the same way.

    I wouldn't say misrepresents. I would say the interpretation might not be to your liking.

    Itâ(TM)s the same with all media, and the best example is movies. Make a movie about pilots and real pilots will say that itâ(TM)s fake and inaccurate. Make a movie about war and history buffs will complain that itâ(TM)s fake and inaccurate. The only "real" movie that can be made is a movie about making a movie, as that's what they're really doing.

    I think you're right that no one likes how he or she is portrayed in the media. A glowing piece is usually followed by a statement like, "I'm not a hero, Iâ(TM)m just an ordinary guy." A more or less objective piece forces the grim light of another personâ(TM)s perspective on your life and the results are usually never to the liking of the subject. And of course a bad piece will always solicit a negative response.

    1. Re:Misrepresentation vs Interpretation by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Make a movie about pilots and real pilots will say that itâ(TM)s fake and inaccurate. Make a movie about war and history buffs will complain that itâ(TM)s fake and inaccurate. The only "real" movie that can be made is a movie about making a movie...

      Hah! Every movie I've seen that was (in whole or in part) about making a movie has been ridiculously fake and inaccurate. I'd even say that they do airplanes and war better because few [script writers/directors] think they "know everything" about those topics and usually hire consultants to help. For example, I've yet to see a "movie in a movie" where the crew is utterly exhausted because the director wants "one more shot" for the fiftieth time because he's only been on set since 2pm and they've been there since 6am.

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    2. Re:Misrepresentation vs Interpretation by mink · · Score: 1

      So to see a real movie we should all go and watch The Man from La Mancha ?

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      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  56. Because he's a giant fucking faggot loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And probably likes Anime too, a clear sign of burgeoning homosexual lust.

    Oh sweet man meat! Sing me tales of your loins!

  57. The key point here by jtheory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and even though I wasn't having any fun

    This is the most important line in the post. Something is wrong when you're driven to keep going, but *you aren't having any fun anymore*.

    I have a personality type that makes this kind of addiction very easy. My first experiences with computer games were the early *text* adventures -- Adventure, Zork, and others (xyzzy, maze of twisty passages all different, etc.).

    Before I knew it, I found myself glaring red-eyed at the computer screen as the sun came up, surrounded by maps, notes, etc., feeling sick and aching all over. I wasn't playing because I was having fun -- it was frustrating as hell. I felt horrible. But I was going to figure out every last puzzle if it killed me. I felt like the game was a malevolent being fighting against me.

    Nowadays, I just don't start playing the games. I don't own any (though I did once spend a dozen hours or so honing winmine strategies before I realized what I was doing).

    I have similar rules in other aspects of my life. I never ever gamble (not even penny poker). It just sucks the fun out of it for me, because I feel like I have to win, and I can't enjoy the game.

    I was an athletic kid in school, but I ran track instead of playing basketball, or football, or any game like that where there's more personal interaction and physical contact. Yeah, you can get spiked or elbowed in a race, but running a good race involves self-control much more than exerting your will over the other runners.

    There isn't anything specifically wrong with playing a game for hours on end, especially a game where you're interacting with other live players, if you're enjoying it. It can be one form of social interaction, or just like watching TV but more interactive. It's when you're harming your own well-being (mental or physical) and you still can't stop that you should get a clue that something is awry.

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    1. Re:The key point here by Nindalf · · Score: 1

      I'm like that, too. It bothers me enough when I catch myself losing time like that, but when I started making games, and saw users get hooked doing something they probably don't really enjoy, I just felt awful.

      It's kind of a life goal for me to find ways of turning that sort of impulse to productive ends, such as with my current project.

      Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people playing games and having fun, but I like the idea of taking the guilt factor completely out of it.

  58. Message to the deacon and /. by dsr9996 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I read the NYT article about Rick Stenlund (the Deacon) when it was published only because /. had a link to the story on it. I am a computer programmer and a recreational gamer (mostly Starcraft and Civilization type games), and I have always been interested in MMORPG's since Ultima Online came out. So I was very interested in seeing an article in a paper as big as the NYT about a person who has a character in one of these games.

    After reading the article, I felt somewhat depressed about Rick's life _because that is how the article portrayed him_. I think anyone reading that article would feel the same way: "This guy is kind of weird, down-and-out to some degree, without much hope for the future", which then led to the thought, "This is the kind of person who plays these MMORPG'S."

    Then I just read (again, because /. posted a story), Rick's reply to this article, as well as his fellow Anarchy Online gamers in that game's forum. After reading his reply and defense of himself, I feel sincere sympathy for him. Basically, Rick says this article's writer at best misrepresented him, and at worst, outright lied about things that he said. I believe Rick when he says these things.

    And I was taken aback when I saw the top-modded posts on /. slamming this man without any kindness at all. Many of the posts said, in effect, "Rick could be lying as easily as the NYT article writer, and it's his fault anyway, even if the srticle writer did lie." I disagree with this rationale, and here's why: Do you think someone would submit to an interview like Rick did if he knew that he would be portrayed as a hopeless, pathetic loser with weird and even offensive behavior? I don't think so. Especially since Rick is now upset about this story. So I give Rick the benefit of the doubt when it comes to believing him or the writer of the article.

    I am a Christian, whereas I think many (if not most) people who read /. are not. If you want to challenge this, just read people's sig lines or posts and be aware of the amount of anti-Christian and anti-religious content. That being said, I used to be an atheist, and I put up with the anti-Christian junk here because _I used to feel the exact same way_. I've changed now though, and so there you go. I have always been interested in technology (games, programming, gadgets, etc.) so I enjoy /. I give that disclaimer because I am going to say something sincerely religious (yes you read it right!) intended especially for Rick:

    I believe in Jesus Christ, a man who was also falsely accused of many things, whose words were twisted around to condemn him, and who was killed on the basis of these lies. I also believe that he is God, and so God himself, knowing that he would be betrayed by someone who called himself his friend, much as you were by the article writer, willingly gave himself over to his betrayer so that the salvation of human beings could be made possible. Because of this, I believe that Jesus Christ himself is, in a special way, right beside all people who are wrongly condemned, who are misrepresented, and who are lied about. People called him the devil, they called him a demon, they tried to murder him, and eventually they did. He bore all of these insults and lies with love, for he knew that the people who did these things were doing wrong, and that doing wrong hurts the person who does it far worse than the person they hurt because they separate themselves from God by doing it.

    Rick, I do not know if you are a Christian or not, and whether you are or not, I just want you to know that I have prayed for you and your family, that Christ will be with you, to comfort and console you, to help you through this difficult time where you feel defamed, and to restore you to peace of heart and mind. Ultimately, I pray he will give you the grace to forgive this man who did this to you, and all the people at the NYT who allowed it to happen. When Judas came to betray Jesus, Jesus looked into his eyes and said, "Friend, do what you came to do." He forgave his worst enemy, and in doing so followed his Father's desire, for in forgiving, we will be forgiven.

    Peace be with you,
    Devin

    1. Re:Message to the deacon and /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, proselytizing at its best :).

    2. Re:Message to the deacon and /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what did you do to many drugs and fall into the lap of god? heart broken too hard? drink too much?

    3. Re:Message to the deacon and /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't drugs or drink that brought me to the lord. It was the love of a good woman which saved me, and her name was natalie...blessed be that sweet, sweet name!

    4. Re:Message to the deacon and /. by GreggyBUIUC · · Score: 1

      Hey man,

      I appreciate what you're trying to do here. There are some out here that share your beliefs, and it takes some balls to say what you said on here when you know it won't even be given a fare chance.

      Stay strong man.

      Greg

    5. Re:Message to the deacon and /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and blessed be that sweet, sweet pussy!

  59. Well Jesus Christ on a Pogo Stick! by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny
    Don't trust a journalist! What the hell is wrong with you? Journalists are even worse than Corporations!

    Ok, let me explain this to you... A journalist is a person who started out with a bunch of starry-eyed ideals. His head was all full of things like the idea that he could make a difference or that he could actually make a living on a journalist's salary. For a select few, the wage might be OK but most of them would have been better off with a career in 1-hour photo development.

    So over the years as reality sets in, the journalist's hopes and dreams are crushed and he turns into a sadistic and cynical bastard, unable to realize that some human beings might even be able to find peace and happiness in their lives. At the same time, his twisted spirit aches for the big scoop that will break him out of the doldrums of sub-minimum wages and canned dog food three times a week. As he gets older, he becomes more desparate.

    Assuming he ever can manage to attain any respect at all in the industry, he HAS to keep producing blockbuster stories on a regular basis or it's back to the canned dog food for him.

    And you would trust one of these wretches to represent your story in a manner that's not sensationalistic and negative? People don't want to read the fluff stories about someone who's life is kind of a bummer but he's finding happiness anyway. The journalist knows this.

    Yes my friend, you should sooner trust Bill Gates with your immortal soul than trust a journalist.

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  60. "Future"? by globalar · · Score: 1

    I'll come right out and say that my future in AO is shaky right now as a result of the slanderous and untrue article posted about me in the New York Times last Thursday.

    Who has their future in a game? The real reason we are reading this is because this guy plays computer games too much and it is sad and disturbing. It is not disturbing enough to be made into a movie, but good enough for a few rounds in /.

    I've been trying to pretend like everything is alright, but I get this sinking feeling, a feeling like I'm going to be judged for my online time and it's totally sucked the fun out of the game for me.

    That sinking feeling is him realizing that he has invested large amounts of his life in a game and that the game is only a game. Your time is a sunk cost (as economists term it) and you will be judged by individuals based on your actions. This is reality.

    If he cannot be proud of what he invests his time in, he is hiding. It is like hiding under the covers as a child. There is no logic to it, it is all based upon your limited perception and desire to escape from reality. Children tend to grow up though.

    1. Re:"Future"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you quite understand what he's trying to say.

      Whenever you get involved in any sort of social activity, be it sports, a weekly poker night, or in this case, an MMORPG, you develop social bonds with the people you interact with. Since this 'story' broke on NYT, thedecon has felt like he's become an object of redicule among people he felt were his freinds. It'd be the same if a number of your freinds were to start talking behind your back, and mock you mercilessly. The fact that it's virtual doesn't lessen the sting.

  61. To the courts? by klasikahl · · Score: 1

    As I understand it from theDeacon's response to this article, there is quite a bit of slander contained within Seth's writings. I don't know if anyone is thinking the same thing that I am, but this much slander would qualify as defimation of character. The article's author has commited libel.

    Personally, if I were the subject of the article, I would bring a civil liberties suit up. This kind of article is a violation of the subject's civil rights.

  62. Thedeacon is a public figure... by cnelzie · · Score: 1

    The article points out how he is Sooo well known amongst a community of people. In that community he is looked up to, he helps people all that he can and nurtures and hopefully provides a shining example to those "beneath" him.

    How is that different from a major sports figure?

    For instance, I am only able to mention a tiny number of sports figures and most of those are from my youth, when I was into sports more then I am now.

    Just because he plays an online game makes him no less famous then say, Linus Torvalds. Thedeacon is just famous within a very particular circle of people. It's just that simple a fact.

    --
    If you ignore the other uses of a tool, does that make the tool less useful, or you less useful?
    1. Re:Thedeacon is a public figure... by Com2Kid · · Score: 1
      • The article points out how he is Sooo well known amongst a community of people. In that community he is looked up to, he helps people all that he can and nurtures and hopefully provides a shining example to those "beneath" him.


      • How is that different from a major sports figure?


      AO is a closed members only community, even though access may be easily gained, it is still in essence a closed community.

      Thedeacon is no more a public figure than a player at a LAN party.

      Indeed, being a pay-for-play player he is more akin to a fan at a football game, the administrators of the game servers would be the actual "football players" in your analogy, they are the ones who are being paid to entertain us all, Thedeacon is just like any other goer at a football game, he is a having a good time enjoying what he paid his money for.

      Just because a fan at a football game paints their face and wears a big foam hand does NOT give the New York Times the right to do an exposé on their personal financial life!

      More so, by some chance if a New York Times reporter comes up and asks the fan why they are such a big fan of their team, the fan may indeed think that this is a great opportunity to explain to the world why their football team is the best darned football team out there.

      If in the process of talking to the reporter the fan and the reporter explicitly make a verbal agreement that some such issues are for background purposes only for the story to explain motive and are NOT to be included in the story itself, well then, the fan mentioning that going to the games helped him get through an icky divorce (or whatever personal issues, the original NYT article is now archived and I am not going to pay to read it!), the sum total of what should be mentioned of that times in the players life is something to the effect of

      • ...and attending his team's games has helped FanBoy743 get through trying and difficult times in his life.


      and that is it! No more, not who he was divorced from, not a SINGLE mention of his purchase of season tickets in the luxury box seats as being a "pathetic example of how much money these poor fools spend on football" and definitely not a mention of

      • surly a sign of addiction, to be spend so much money on those season tickets while he filed for bankruptcy.


  63. Here's a quote from the forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not saying I'm leaving, I just don't know what to do. If I quit, then he wins. I love my AO peeps, I love my Funcom, I enjoy AO, so why quit? I've never been a quitter.

    Except that, he QUIT LIFE and surrendered to a video game.

    I love video games. But I love them because I love life.

    Someone who gives up on life and loves alcohol is a quitter. Just like this guy.

  64. the anarchy by tq_at_sju · · Score: 1

    the anarchy quoted a php error, big deal.

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  65. SURF'S UP FAGS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Augusta is a JAP (jewish American Princess) by definition only. She is Jewish and very spoiled yet she has strikingly blonde hair and soft facial features. She is very petite with small hand and very tiny feet. Five foot tall with a proportional figure that fits her height and well shaped breasts which are small yet round and firm. She is also very pregnant. Her husband is off on another of his so called business trips leaving her to fend for herself this last month before the baby is expected. I dropped by one Saturday afternoon to check to see how she was doing and I must admit I found out. "Hi there, what brings you here?" "I came over to see if you were alright." "Fat, tired and sore, but other than that I'm okay." "You're about ready to have the baby aren't you?" "Yep, next month, and if he don't come out I am going to have a fit." "How do you know it's going to be a he?" "Oh I don't know." "Maybe it'll be a she and she be as beautiful as her mother." "Well right now I don't feel so pretty, I feel fat and my sides hurt. It hurts when I sit or lay down and it definitely hurts for me to walk." "Here this will help." "What are you doing?" "I'm going to massage your sides. They hurt because you aren't quite used to carrying all that weight around and it makes your muscles sore and this will make them feel better." "Oh God! that does feels good. Where did you learn that?" "I do have a few kids you know." "Yes and I'm sorry you and Toni split up. Do you see the kids at all?" "No, she has them in Ohio." I said massaging her sides. She fell silent to enjoy the massage I guess. I stood behind her chair with my hands rubbing her sides. Standing there looking down at her I could see her breasts through the loose open necked maternity top that she had on. I reached around cupping one small breast in each hand. "They aren't sore." "No but I bet they haven't been rubbed in a while either." "Please don't do that." "If you want me to stop, I'll stop if not I won't." I I said slowly rubbing her breasts in small circles, cupping them in the palm of each hand. "You better stop, it gets me excited." "I'm going to keep rubbing them until you are and then I am going to rub you all over." "You can't" "Why, you can't do it because of the baby?" "No, it's not that it's, well, it's complicated." "When was the last time you went to bed and had sex the way you wanted it?" "Don't, it's been a long time, almost two months." Then lean back and enjoy." She leaned back and closed eyes her eyes but she wasn't enjoying. I turned the chair around then knelt between her legs. I lifted her maternity top exposing her swollen stomach. I kissed her navel then teased it with my tongue. I leaned forward pulling up her maternity top and her bra. I took each nipple in my mouth and teased them until they stood straight out. As I licked and sucked them she reached behind her unsnaping her bra. Her skirt was and old skirt with a draw string sewn to it and the front cut out to make room for her swelling stomach. It didn't have the extra insert that you see with a maternity skirt to cover her stomach. Her panties came part way up but just barely managed to cover anything at all. I undid the little bow she had tied in the draw string then pulled the skirt down. "Stand up so I can pull them off." She got to her feet then I pulled off her skirt. I grasp the elastic waist band of her panties and pulled them down slowly. The hair on her pussy was damp and matted down but brilliantly blonde with an aroma that I couldn't resist. Before I got her panties to her ankles so she could step out of them I pressed my face to her crotch. I had to tilt my head back to get close to it but I reached my tongue into to taste the wetness of her snatch. She held onto my shoulders as she stepped out of her panties and skirt. I helped her unbutton her maternity top and bra leaving her very pregnant and very naked in front of me, exposing herself for desire a

    1. Re:SURF'S UP FAGS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  66. no, the AC was right by Scudsucker · · Score: 3, Informative

    From dictionary.com:

    1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
    2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
    3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

    from a sexual assault website:
    You are the one needing a refresher course.


    Sounds like you're the one who needs to get a clue. Common, you know that words can have multiple meanings and that a website about assault is likely to have only one of them.

  67. lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by AOthedeacon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    OMG 1 KN0W T3H D34C0N B3TT3R TH@|v |-|3 KN0vv5 |-|1|v|53L|= B3CAUSE 1 @M T3|-| UBAR HACKAR TYPE D00D. come on guys, Please come to me for information. All the speculating is kinda funny and mostly wrong :p Yeah, who the hell wouldn't be excited to be approached for an interview by the Times (this was BEFORE the jayson blair story broke btw) While the guy was here, I played a bit of AO (please once more keep in mind that I work from my home office and a BIG perk of working at home is that while waiting for a customer to arrive, I can load up ao, grand theft auto, UT, watch a movie, etc and play during downtime. that's nothing to look down on, as I bet 99.9% of the human race wishes they could do the same. Please let's not kid ourselves here :D I work for 9 hours a day with no lunch break, oh heavens forbid I play a game when I get a few seconds to catch my breath. Oh yeah, regarding all the IT speculation stuff. Yes, I did not complete college, I went the cert route (net+, A+, MCP, etc etc etc). Back when I started out years ago, certs had a buttload more clout than they do now, which basically made college far less of an immediate concern. These days, certs mean absolutely nothing. The tests are easy and everyone has them, so degrees are where it's at.....which is why I'm going back to school :p Surely that's gotta make alot more sense now, right? Yup, I didn't like the bankruptcy crap posted and yup I put down how much I (approximately) pulled in last year to counter attack the bankruptcy stuff. There's alot more to bankruptcy than "oh we didn't make any money", but I won't go into that here :D You know what? Alot of shlashdotters just seem bitter to me. Many of you are so unhappy with your lives that you lash out at the nearest target in order to make yourselves feel better. Last time I came here it was with the written form of a bag of nickels, busting everyone upside the head with the poorest grammar and most ghetto talk. Was that the real me? I'm much more calm now. Is this the real me? Ingame I talk about putting women's feet in my mouth (which is just so off the wall that you gotta laugh...OMG TEH FOOTNESS!) is that the real me? The Times says I'm this depressed, lonely anti-social individual that withdrew from society to play AO.....buuuuut, I still hold down a job, have a wife and an active social life. Is that the real me? You base your opinions on one facet of a person's personality instead of looking at the bigger picture. Really, for those speculating on who I am or what I'm like, get your heads out of your butts and think for yourself. Has anyone even thought about contacting me instead of guessing? I mean um, wouldn't that be the logical thing to do? Not flaming here, but really....think about it :p Meh, this is kinda cool actually. The Times article itself sucked major goat balls, but here I am getting flamed on slashdot (this site seems popular....how the fekk have i never heard of it? Oh..."news for nerds" :D j/k of course). Heh, I think when it all comes down to it, I'm just a guy like everyone else. Nothing too spectacular, except for my enormous penis....really, it's enormous....stop laughing. The Times is out there to sell newspapers. Im sure when the guy got here, he was expecting me to suck on severed feet and spank off to foot fetish videos. When he saw a working guy with a wife that likes to go out and party and doesn't really even have a foot fetish, he was probably pretty damn disappointed. So he made some shit up, exaggerated, released info he overheard my wife and I talking about, etc. Someone could actually do a story on him. The entire time he was here, he was sweating his AO game. "I really wish I could log in AO" times like a million. I finally got tired of his crying about Anarchy Online and let him log into his char from my comp. Heh, from what he told me, the article was delayed a bit because......well, he did nothing but play AO....a

    1. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen asshole.

      List your IP here.

      Then you'll see who's bitch you are.

    2. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by nacturation · · Score: 1

      For those who don't have time to deciper the mega uni-paragraph which is the parent post, here's a convenient summary:

      "If there is a mistake...well, you should have used the 'Preview' button!"

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    3. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab your asbestos panties. I'm about to flame the hell out of your jelly belly, Dr. Schole's, pencil protector wearing, ain't had pussy since pussy had you, slashdot reading, wannabe flaming asses.

      Let me ask you this:

      If I was as poor as this fella makes me out to be, how in the hell can we afford car payments, insurance, Cable TV, High speed internet, entertainment (not AO, ya goobs)

      Easy.....the guy lied. Um, and here I though slashdot readers were supposed to be smart?

      Wow...I don't get out much, yet somehow I find time to go dancing every weekend, go to trips out of town, etc.

      "Shy"....Come to Madison or log into AO and see how "shy" I am.

      Let's break it on down for the less estute among us:

      Rent: RSPC@home.com645/mo
      Cable: RSPC@home.com60/mo
      Internet: RSPC@home.com50/mo
      car: RSPC@home.com299/mo
      Insurance: RSPC@home.comshit, I forgot. I think it's 1-200 or something. Yeah, I got speeding tickets, bite me.
      Food: roughly 300/mo (I like my steaks)
      AO: RSPC@home.com12.95/mo
      Clothes: I buy alot of clothes, so sue me? roughly RSPC@home.com500 a month.
      Other entertainment: meh, 5-800 a month or so.

      Last year I cleared just under RSPC@home.com100k after expenses. No, I'm not poor at all. in fact OMFGRSPC@home.comROOFLESMAYO. Do the numbers. I make 50-100 per hour times 20-40 billable hours per week. That equals: a buttload more than half you bitches pull in :p

      If the walls were "crashing down around me" and I was so poor, how the hell was I able to afford a RSPC@home.com50 game and RSPC@home.com200 in clothes that day?

      Easy. The guy lied.

      I mean, there's so much about the article that doesn't make sense. Yes, I'm oh so poor, let me lean back in my leather chair and play AO on my brand new 21" monitor.

      Here's what I see you people writing:

      "OMG this guy is such a loser, he plays MMORPGS and has no life, blah blah blah how pathetic. I think I'm going to spend the next 26 consecutive hours blasting him on the slashdot forums.

      the very fact alone that you bother to read the article and then post flames about it makes you look far more pathetic than even that article could make you look.

      You call those flames? Panty waists. Amateur flamers. Get some meat behind some of these weak ass jabs and maybe you'll be blessed enough to have Thedeacon own your Linux lubbin asses individually.

      Um guys? YOU READ SLASHDOT. You read slashdot and troll the forums for all day. Hey, it's reality calling. JOO ARE A DORK.

      I play for 40 hours a week. Heh, to be honest, when you consider how much TV (and forum trolling) most americans do, that number is not too horrible.

      Of course that number is grossly exaggerated (I work for 9 hours a day, make dinner, watch a movie with my wife, I write, work out, I do stand up comedy, I read, etc, so it's a physical impossibility that I play that many hours, unless I've gained the magical ability to increase the length of the day by 6 hours or something).

      Wow, the Linux freaks on this boards sure are in a place to talk. Lessee, "Slashdot: News for nerds". Um, "nerds". And you guys are proud of this. What does that say about you?

      I think the flamers on this thread are more pissed that I play games and still get the pussy, while they're spanking it to midget porn.

      People, get your collective heads out of your ass

    4. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by AOthedeacon · · Score: 0

      :p wrong email address bud....or did you forget that @home went out of business like 5 years ago? ;)

    5. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by AOthedeacon · · Score: 0

      are you threatening me with felony computer hacking on a public message board? Lol um... ...and here I thought I was a bit off in the head. Some of you guys make me look absolutely sane and here I thought that was impossible. oh.. RSPC@home.com. heh. :p

    6. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by mrmez · · Score: 1
      Wow. I never read the Times article because I really wasn't interested. I didn't think "who wants to read about some loser who games" or "silly gamer, get a life" or anything such; I just didn't care. I doubted the story could have been so outrageously untrue as it was suggested to be - no more than 5% of what you read in the papers is untrue/miscontrued - but I wasn't certain. However, after reading only two Deacon comments on Slashdot I feel that it would be impossible for any story to properly express what a waste of existence the fellow is unless it consists solely of massive quotes (to keep them completely in context) from the Deacon. It is incredibly rare that I encounter evidence of the existence of such a vicious, warped, obnoxious, judgemental fellow - although the second posting is less outrageous than the first.

      I'm particularly amused by his description of slashdotters. Saying "I work from home - that's why I'm online so much" to the same folk he calls losers partly because they're online posting all the time is too much. The kettle calling the pot black, perhaps. The defense of bankruptcy with discussion of income - anyone who makes that much and can't pay the bills has serious problems. There's no excuse unless The Deacon has about 10 relatives in need of financial support. Get a cheaper apartment, dump the car for a nice $800 honda with double the mileage and low insurance payments, eat more rice, beans and vegetables cooked at home... Live within your means! When you make over $20,000/year it's not difficult. I was only making $37,000 when I moved to Madison and I was saving money. After two years there, Deacon, I was only making $53,000 and feel free to laugh at me if you like - but I paid the bills, splurged on expensive meals, bought a car and still saved money.

      I do give the Deacon credit for having the guts to post that embarassing photo of himself, though. Anyone willing to show a photo of himself looking like such silly, goofy loser has something going for him. Of course, most of us have had to take goofy poses such as that in HS but at least most of us don't have such a silly, arrogant expression.

    7. Re:lol oh god....slahdot strikes back :D by k03+kalle · · Score: 1

      Hey fuck. I run FreeBSD... This makes me leeter than the average Linux nub. What does this make you? Still a nub! You lose. GG Die now plztq.

  68. The night who says Ni says! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arrest this man! Quick!! He is obviously a serial killer (or worse a terrorist) in the making! FBI!

  69. THE AO PLAYER IS FALLING APART AT THE SEAMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    I just read the stuff he wrote.

    He is a wreck, he is totally falling apart. "What a lunatic" is right.

    AO is his Prozac, just keep the IV loitering until the money is gone and you're really alone.

  70. BAHAHAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, this shit is hilarious.
    Pal, you need to get away from the computer and smell real life. You truly are a first class lunatic and moron. I'm not surprised you were dumb enough to get screwed by the New York Times.

    1. Re:BAHAHAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boo-yeah!

    2. Re:BAHAHAH by AOthedeacon · · Score: 0

      *yawn* Again, this is the kettle calling the pot black, my friend. Please allow me to extend the same advice to you and send you on your way...TA TA junior :p

    3. Re:BAHAHAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      *yawn*
      How mature of you, "junior". Your general attitude around here is a prime example of how you brought this whole mess down on yourself. The best part of this is that you got exactly what you deserved, as all assholes and degenerates inevitably do. As many have pointed out, what did you think was going to happen? He's a reporter for god sake. Reporters prey on gullible morons. And you got picked clean.

      The New York Times will print no retraction, because they were more or less on the money. You can sue, but you will likely be laughed out of any court you can't bribe. I guess trolling Slashdot is all you have left, since your own community will have nothing to do with you. No, I stand corrected. The ones who believe your lies will stand behind you. But even they are few and far between.

  71. Just read the original article by Pettifogger · · Score: 1

    Hmmm... I don't see any libel in there. I'm not a player of online games, but I thought the article was somewhat sympathetic. A business bankruptcy isn't exactly private information. They're usually published in local newspapers and since they're filed in court, completely public information. It's not difficult to take *any* name and see if that person has filed. And as for not attending college, who cares? Lots of people don't attend, so why the hardcore whining? And for that matter, why does anyone care about this? It'll be a topic of discussion for players in their chatrooms for some time to come, but I don't think he realizes how little the rest of the public cares.

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  72. 2 Simple Rules for Life by Synn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rule 1:

    If you're ever arrested for anything say the following 4 words to the police and only the following 4 words: I want my lawyer.

    Nothing else you say will help you, it will only hurt you.

    Rule 2:

    If a reporter wants to talk to you about anything only ever say the following 2 words: No comment.

    Anything else you say can be twisted into making it sound like you said whatever that reporter wants.

    1. Re:2 Simple Rules for Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But even saying "no comment" can be used against you.

      So here's my idea: pretend you can't understand what they are saying no matter what. Keep asking them to repeat themselves more clearly until they give up in frustration.

    2. Re:2 Simple Rules for Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As a news reporter for a Los Angeles NBC affiliate, your advice is bad. Go ahead and say, "No comment." I'll just say, "Mr. Synn refused to comment on the allegation against him." The public sees that as "Mr. Synn is hiding something. After all, if he didn't have anything to hide, he'd talk."

      We're not as heartless as you might think. But go ahead and hate us. You watch the news anyway.

    3. Re:2 Simple Rules for Life by sgtrock · · Score: 1

      Actually, the best advice I ever heard was to ask a television or radio journalist how much time the sound bite had. Give an answer that fits in that sound bite, and not one syllable more.

      If it's more of an open ended interview, be prepared to NOT respond to anything other than direct questions. Keep your answers short, direct, and above all, polite. If the reporter tries to rile you to get the sound bite that s/he wants, DO NOT respond. Just sit there with a smile.

      Whatever you do, don't just answer "No comment". That's too easy to twist into an apparent admission of guilt by clever editing.

  73. On the record by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 1

    I'll say Hillory seems like a bitch. If she takes offense to people calling her a bitch, it confirms this too.

    1. Re:On the record by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      I think Jim's head looks like a penis. If he takes offense to people saying his head looks like a penis, it confirms this too.

      That's not making a point about judging people or anything, I just like to type penis. Penis, penis, penis, penis, penis, penis, penis, PENIS.

      Everybody now...

  74. MOD PARENT UP! by shigelojoe · · Score: 1

    I too am a budding journalist, and I am aiming to be a journalist not because I want the money or the fame (because I know I won't get either), but I just enjoy the process of finding the truth behind a situation; like Woodward and Bernstein, except on an incredibly smaller scale.

    Obviously, in this case, the journalist was clearly an asshat with conflict of interest, but like the parent comment said, 99.995% of journalists don't want to screw you over, they just want to tell the reader the story of something they might not necessarily know about.

    I know it may be hard to trust journalists when bad seeds make headlines (Jayson Blair, this guy, Connie Chung), but can't you be reassured that a dishonest journalist is a hugely noticed exception rather than the rule?

  75. I think I understand what he says by vadim_t · · Score: 1

    I just don't get it when people I know point to some famous person and say "Oooh, he's so cool! I want to be famous too!". With the current media, if I suddenly became famous I'd dig a hole in the ground and hide there.

    Of course he's upset. Who'd like having an article like that being written about them, and people in all countries discussing everything that was said about him. I think he should sue the journalist. If he doesn't have enough money he could get a paypal account, I'm pretty sure there are people who understand how disgusting that crap was and would be willing to help.

  76. Breaking my rule of not feeding the trolls... by Renshi's+Girl · · Score: 1

    OMFG. GET. OVER. YOUR. SELF.

    And while you're at it, take note of how your postings to your forums got a score of +5, while according to your posting history, I think that your best score has been what, a +1? I surf with a twit filter of +4, down from +5 since my husband surfs at +4 and we like to talk about what we read here. *GASP* you read correctly, not only am I *FEMALE* but I'm also married to one of the "nerds" that as you so eloquently put it need to "Move the fuck out of your mom's basement and grow a few pubes."

    BTW, I asked him if he knew who Cowboy Neal was on our first date just to see if he was "nerdy" enough for me.

    I'm sorry that you have issues with being comfortable with who you are and embracing your inner geek and even sorrier for your wife. Might I suggest some haldol and years of intensive therapy as a good place to start. You'll find the haldol to be much better than the "chill pills" you're trying to pass off on the rest of us.

    1. Re:Breaking my rule of not feeding the trolls... by AOthedeacon · · Score: 0

      Yes, please teach me how to be hip and charming like a true slashdotter *rolls eyes* Oh wait, you're asking me to embrace my "inner geek".... :p This is pure comedy to see you guys get this worked up :D

    2. Re:Breaking my rule of not feeding the trolls... by Renshi's+Girl · · Score: 1

      Get a clue! I realize they are expensive, but JHC!

      I was not suggesting that you learn to embrace your "inner geek". It was more along the lines of learning not to be a poser...err wait, I meant loser...l and p are fairly close together on the keyboard and I got the wrong one. ie be true to yourself and who you really are instead of worrying about being made fun of or if people consider you a social reject...how long has it been since you left junior high?...I know plenty of "nerds" that are well adjusted and have friends contrary to your beliefs. Somehow, I have the feeling that this reality escapes you, as seen by your necessity to point out how you proved that you were socially acceptable by tormenting those of us who weren't (even though you are how old now?) and none of this matters to adults (although you wouldn't know this since you aren't one).

      So, tell me, can your wife relate to you when you've had a hard time trouble shooting or with anything else work related, or is she one of those "socially acceptable trophy wives"? I'll give you a clue that I can afford: if you answer no to the first one then the second one is correct. And if, as I suspect, the latter is true, it might help to explain your misguided anger towards those of us patient enough to wait until we find someone who could relate to us instead of doing whatever was/is necessary to have a steady supply of ass (and yes, I would prefer a lifetime of "midget porn" to a lifetime of with someone who gave me a blank look when discussing work or anything else I'm passionate about). And since I know you are dying to know, my husband is a software engineer and I'm a chemist whose hobby is computers.

      You had my sympathy and my husband's sympathy until I read a little of the drivel you posted on our forums. Like I said: note how links and "cut and paste" copies of *YOUR OWN POSTS* from the AO forums got a score of +5. The crap that you have been posting scores so low that it ends up being read mainly by those who are bored (hey, I'm waiting for my HP in EverCrack to regen...it takes awhile when you have to regen >600HP at 2 HP every 6 seconds...I need some form of entertainment [such that this is] while I wait) and those who have moderator points (ie a statistically insigificant portion of the forum's population).

      All sympathy and support for you and your "predicament" vanished in less than a femtosecond after reading your drivel. Gratz. You are a l33t H4x0r. Hope you are proud of yourself. I now can't help but feel that Seth Schiesel (ingame name Amis) must have hit the nail squarely on the head and seeing yourself for the loser you are through the eyes of another has pissed you off with yourself to where you have the need to abuse others to feel like a man again. Like the guy who hates homosexuality to the point of making others believe that he is one, you have bitched and screamed in the rudest and most uneducated manner (I would add loudest but, fortunately, our moderating system prevents that) that I can no longer believe that you were in anyway maligned if anything, he painted you in a more positive light than you deserve. And, given the majority of the opinions on this forum, I doubt that I am the only one with this opinion.

      You would have been much better off having kept your mouth shut or simply posting a link to your rebuttals/explainations of your side on the AO forums, as you would have realized that people were talking from the point of view of the article being truthful. However, like an enraged moron, you opened your mouth, let your true IQ level show, and lost the respect of people who would have otherwise supported you.

      *Please*,learn what a paragraph tag is and how to use it. We even give you a hint in the line that appears under the comment box. You know, the one that starts "Allowed HTML". Oh wait, you're a jackass, not a geek...you wouldn't understand. Sorry. My bad. For someone who bitches about other people's writing capabilities, yours won't be getting you qualified for a Puli

    3. Re:Breaking my rule of not feeding the trolls... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is pure comedy to see you guys get this worked up

      Sure. It's what lifeless trolls like you enjoy the most.

  77. Hang On!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean... an Internet troll was publicly flamed in a national newspaper?

    Am I the only one that notices the irony and enjoys it?

    1. Re:Hang On!!! by AOthedeacon · · Score: 0

      Well consider this: You might be next.... :p None of us are safe....

    2. Re:Hang On!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe so but we're all a hell of a lot saner than you buddy

    3. Re:Hang On!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well consider this: You might be next

      Nah, I wouldn't be so fool to make such a mess ;)

  78. Legit link to original article (no $$$, no reg) by Markmarkmark · · Score: 1

    http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikk el?SearchID=73138713905032&Avis=WM&Dato=20030612&K ategori=ZNYT05&Lopenr=306120314&Ref=AR

    Warning: remember to remove any spaces in the URL inserted by /.

  79. A dump on gammers in general by Felinoid · · Score: 1

    In my arrogent opinion the 'news' artical was writen as a dump on all gammers.
    The target has a bad rep amoung some so the reporter must have figured he's be scum of the earth in real life.
    But supprise. Just like any troll or such online in real life it's just a normal person with a hell of a lot to blow off and the internet is just the place to blow it off.
    Trying to paint this guy as a loser has hurt him in some sereous ways. In as much that he's already having problems making a living now he is losing clients becouse the artical paints him as disfunctional and untrust worthy.
    This reminds me of an "inteeview" with a hacker that consisted mostly of the reporters opinions. The few quotes didn't appear to support those comments eather. It's just reporting the populare stereotype as fact.
    The same is happening here.
    Just a convenent fiction reported as fact.
    "All you gammers are moral rejects"
    By publishing this the reporter is saying "This is your typical gammer".

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  80. Fast-food Reporting by jamesmartinluther · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The "better than thou" attitude of Seth Schiesel (the NYT reporter) here is remarkable:

    Thedeacon is a celebrity. Mr. Stenlund, meanwhile, feels trapped - trapped in a town too far from big cities where big things happen, trapped in a hand-to-mouth existence, trapped in a mean little culture of cheap thrills and fast-food television.

    What could drive a reporter to shun their supposed "objectivity" and engage in such social denigration? Was it just making the NYT reader feel good about themselves? "Big" Schiesel appears to have been irked by Thedeacon's interpersonal power in AO, perhaps because a powerful in-game community standing is something which those in the physical world may never attain.

    This lack of respect toward emerging cultures and communities is a sign of the irrelevance of the media establishment. A reporter would not be able to get very far with this kind of twisted prejudice toward any given creed, race, or religion. Schiesel's blunt attack on a person who merely loves a new form of expression cannot hide behind the thin moniker of journalism, a profession which the NYT has nearly defined (and certainly destroyed).

    - JML

    1. Re:Fast-food Reporting by justins · · Score: 1
      Thedeacon is a celebrity. Mr. Stenlund, meanwhile, feels trapped - trapped in a town too far from big cities where big things happen, trapped in a hand-to-mouth existence, trapped in a mean little culture of cheap thrills and fast-food television.


      What could drive a reporter to shun their supposed "objectivity" and engage in such social denigration? Was it just making the NYT reader feel good about themselves?


      It's interesting the way people can read things differently. I don't read this passage as the reporter trying to denigrate anybody. If anything I find myself having a little more empathy for the guy than I otherwise might, if no explanation of his circumstances had been offered.

      Of course I don't have a strong opinion on the orginal article because I thought it was very boring and I just skimmed it. :)
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  81. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    *grunt*
    eeeerrrrggh.... ahh....

    *PLOP*


    aaaaahh....


    It feels so good to take a shit on crapdot.

  82. A viewpoint from the media... by nordicfrost · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just for the record: I speak for myself. Not my employer.

    Now that I have said that, there's something more to say about being written about in the media.

    I have never met a person who think that he / she was depicted 100% correctly in an article. As a writing journalist myself, I have some theories about this.
    When a person writes an article, it's imperative that the article is neutral and fact based. The article about Thedeacon probably has an angle, a focus. This focus may differ from what the article subject thinks is the focus and lead to a different (usually negative) view on the article. Thedeacon said that the article is factual, but the composing makes him view the article as bogus. This does not meant that it is.

    It is easier for Thedecaon to simply brush off the article as bogus than actually take a deeper look into himself from another persons angle.

    Furthermore, I'd like to adress the myth about the Vendetta Reporter. Some persons think that the article in NYT is a personal attack on Thedeacon for being a success in the MUD scene, staged by the reporter. Why? Does anyone here seriously think that a professional reporter would have something against this person and merge it into an article? It is difficult to be 100% objective in writing, but most of the journalists view this as a goal. If you absolutely need to worry about something? Go worry about the media melting that is currently going on in the US.

    As for the ON / OFF-record thingy: Unless a third person is taking notes, there's NO record. A journalist seeks the truth. Thedeacon told a lot of things that he claims were "off the record" but can't prove this. Furthermore, they were relevant for the article. Maybe the the journalist could have taken the "No, everything you tell me is on the record" stance, but I don't know if he did. Anyway, the golde rule is don't tell a journalist something you don't want the journalist to hear...

  83. Okay, let's get something straight by sdeath · · Score: 1

    First of all, it would be "libel" if it is published in a written form. "Slander" entails _verbal_ communication. Second, truth is an affirmative defense for a charge of libel. What does that mean? It means that if what was said in the article was _provably true_, then it doesn't matter if there was any hostile or malicious intent on the part of the author. You cannot be fried for reporting fact. If "TheDeacon" has a foot fetish, and Joe Reporter reports that he has a foot fetish, whether or not he portrays that in a favorable or unfavorable light, it is _provably true_ and therefore is not libel. Third, being a private citizen is not a silver bullet to prevent libel. Yes, it is true that being a public citizen makes it nearly impossible to successfully sue for libel. That does _not_ mean that being a private citizen makes it _easy_ to successfully sue for libel. Someone else posted the three criteria for defining "libel" above, which must _all be met_, and which I encourage the reader to go back and review. I will concede that IANAL, but unless my memory core is getting seriously rusty these days, I know these preceding three points to be true nonetheless.

    Lose the FUDstorm and pick up a a copy of the Reporter's Stylebook, Slashdot. And find a fucking dictionary while you're at it. It contains words and their _proper_ meanings.

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  84. Off the record by Britz · · Score: 1

    For anybody that cares to know what "off the record" means:

    If I am a politcian or a celebrity and I have many stories to give out over the years there is a relationship going on between the reporter and the clebrity. If I tell them something "off the record" and they would publish this they would loose all the future stories, because they destroyed the relationship and from then on they won't get any stories from that person. So usually they won't tell (maybe even the paper would take a hit so they won't print something "off the record").

    A "one story person" on the other hand doesn't tell anybody "off the record" anything, because the reporter has nothing to loose. If someone can't keep their mouth shut... I am sorry.

    Sidenote: That "relationship thing" between politicians and reporters hase some really bad effects considering reporting and nonreporting nowdays. Read about it elsewhere.

  85. no civil liberties violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You should retake civics class.


    Only the government (or someone acting under the auspices of the government) can violate your civil liberties.

    You did make the correct distinction between slander and libel (slander is spoken, libel is printed), but if the things written in the article were true (regardless of whether or not they were on or off the record), a libel suit would be difficult.

  86. You should be grateful to the NYT by goldspider · · Score: 1
    Reading your carrying-on here, I would think you'd be grateful that the NYT didn't accurately portray you. You sound like a maladjusted 12-year old who's just looking for any excuse to throw a temper tantrum.

    Honestly, I don't know why the NYT would run an article about some angry douchebag who plays video games and is sorely lacking in social interaction skills. Must have been a slow news day.

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  87. To sum it up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is a loser.

    Talked to the press to make him feel c00l.

    Tryed to make someone feel sorry for him.

    What he told a reporter actually made it in the story.

    Said loser is pissed that people now know he is a loser.

    Said loser is pissed because the story is not written in a light that he would like.

    Moron.

  88. Everytime I thing people have brains.... by Psychosnyder · · Score: 1

    Ok i used to respect slashdot readers now I have no clue what to think You guys spend just as much fing time read and posting to this fing site as he plays games i play games, It is just about the only thing is do. Guess what, I'm happy. Im not some loser that has no jab. Shit i have to have a job to support my job habit. Yes it is a habbit, everyone has them. You either waste away you time working, wacthing mindless tv, doing arts and craft, being relgious (yes this is just as much a habit to some as crack is to others) I cant fing believe the stupidity of the people that responded to this article. Do i play AO? Hell fing no. I do play Sof2 and diablo2 and severale other online games that consume about as much time as you would be doing other things. i am one to agree with one quate of Thedeacon. The more your around people, the more you realize that people are idiots.

  89. Re:misquoting is common and not necessarily malici by BgJonson79 · · Score: 1

    One could argue that a sloppy reporter is malicious, since it's their job to GET THE TRUTH.

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  90. He's lying about his city by soaper · · Score: 1
    Any definition you look at is entirely untrue. There are no factories and few companies close by that could be considered âblue collarâ(TM). Seth attempted to paint us in a âFalse Lightâ(TM) of living in squalor, which is entirely untrue. The East side of Madison is quite affluent and white collar if nothing else.

    As somebody who lives in Madison I had to laugh when he wrote that about the east side. Quite affluent? Hmm, maybe he was thinking of the west side. The city breaks down like this:

    Far west side & suburbs: well to do, families, soccer mom's, that sort of scene.

    Downtown: Lots of college kids and young working people. And the ladies are hot.

    Near east side: Starting to leave any area of affluency, but at least the people there are cool about it. Hippies (both burnt out and still going), hipsters, generally a funky area of town.

    Farther east (where he says he is from): One of the two seedy areas of town, the other being the south side. Most buildings (with the notable exception of the mall) are run down. Not a lot of development, as opposed to downtown and the west side where there is a lot. If there are blue collar places to work in this city, this is where you go. Hell, you can find the headquarters of Oscar Mayer on the east side. There's one major factory, and there are plenty more around it. This is where you go if you live in Madison but can't afford to live closer to downtown or on the West side.

    Anyway, all i meant to say is that, perhaps he meant the *West* side of madison is affluent and white collar, and the *East* side is visibly poor and blue collar.

  91. An interesting stance by Double-O-Penguin · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that the article may have been written to play on society's existing perceptions of what a computer gamer is. You even mention that stereotype on one of your posts at another board. Something to the effect that watching X number of hours of television is ok, but using the same number of hours at a computer seems to turn you into a loser. I agree, that's a double-standard and it's wrong.

    Let's take a look at your posts on slashdot though. I see a similar theme with your characterization of slashdot readers. No, I don't spend all day reading the message boards. In fact, I'm an ASIC designer/verification engineer for Hewlett-Packard. I too leave applications open for "downtime" when I can take a break and scan the boards. I understand you're angry with the results of the article, but then you lash out at slashdot readers for commenting.

    Let's look at that now. What information did the readers have access to? As far as I know, unless they played AO, all they knew about was the article. Are you going to question their judgement if that was their only source of information? Then you jump on slashdot and assault the posters for not being endowed with the psychic ability to know the ins-and-outs of your personal life. Instead of ranting, perhaps you should have posted a well-thought out response that laid out the situation in detail; similar to the letter to the NYT editor you posted on another board. However, you decided to bash the posters, resorting to the stereotypes associated with "nerds" and "geeks" from a high school era, even claiming that you beat them up then and socially reject them now. Remind me to tell you to never consider a career in politics.

    Your post above seems to be a poor attempt to cover up the extremes you exhibited in your first post. I have dealt with people in life who feel they can make whatever negative comments they like and get away with it by smiling or giggling after they say it. I get that impression with all your attempts at smileys "j/k of course" type statements. That only works for the the very naive. I am not naive, and I would wager a great deal of money that a large number of slashdot readers are not that naive either.It makes us believe that you have not changed your perceptions, and are simply trying to save face.

    I'm also a little suspicious of your posts here as compared to other boards. The other boards' messages seem fairly well thoguht out (though lacking in specific detail and are repetitive). Here, you've shown a level on par with the fourth-grade spelling and grammar you accuse the article's author of. So, are these messages on the other boards your own work, or were they written by your wife or someone else for you to bolster the image you wanted to portray (that of a calm, intelligent, and articulate individual who was horribly wronged). I have to say, the fact that you submitted to your anger when you posted here is strong evidence they were written on your behalf, and the posts here are a more accurate reflection of your personality.

    I hope you'll also take note that I did not resort to name-calling or throwing insults as part of this post. That is how reasonable people go about discussing a subject.

    P.S. Yes, I run Linux. Yes, I take pride in being knowledgable about computers and how they operate. "Geek" and "nerd" are just labels society has placed on people that share my interests. I have no more control over those labels than you had over the content of the article. Simply because I'm not walking around with a picket sign protesting the use of those names does not mean I have less worth as a human being.

  92. Bankruptcy? by Gnissem · · Score: 0

    Isn't a declaration of bankruptcy in the public record?

  93. Actualy by G00F · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rape isn't all about sexual assult.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=raped

    3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

    3. To plunder or pillage.

    So, did he feel raped, yes.

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  94. Let's Mildly alter the example... by cnelzie · · Score: 1

    Let's correlate Thedeacon with a mildly famous musician...

    This musician wants to have a record made with his/her music in it. This musician is typically personally charged for all time in the recording studio, which is VERY similar to Thedeacon having to pay a monthly fee to be his larger then liafe self in Anarchy Online.

    By his actions, he has made himself someone that is famous, with his posts to all the newsgroups he has made himself well known, with his endless assistance that he has provided to others, he has become publicly known.

    Even if that public is a particularly small one that is a "limited" membership, only in that you have to pay each month to be a member.

    Now, he has taken the next step to shower in the "fame" he has built in AO. He allowed himself to be interviewed.

    He has done MUCH to be viewed as a public figure. Although none of that condones the showing of his dirty laundry, he should have kept that information entirely to himself if he didn't want that in the story.

    Personally, I think it sucks that happened to him. However, he also brought it upon himself.

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  95. Read a book by forkboy · · Score: 1

    The more your around people, the more you realize that people are idiots.

    Your stunning grasp of the English language certainly proves your moral superiority to the rest of us "idiots."

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  96. You cleared $100K? Let's let the IRS know. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need to make sure you have paid your taxes. I have just reported you for possible evasion of taxes.

  97. Re:misquoting is common and not necessarily malici by bafu · · Score: 1

    Back when I ran a business I used to get contacted a lot by reporters for comments on Internet-related news. I eventually got so frustrated with having them incorrectly paraphrase what I said inside quote marks that I gave up on it. Well, more accurately, I started telling them that I would only agree to the interview if they would give me a chance to review whatever they were going to attribute to me and surround with quote marks (IOW, they could still say things like 'bafu says that spam is ...' without running it by me for accuracy, but not 'bafu says, "Spam is ..."'). The difference being that most folks assume that if something is attributed to someone, in quote marks, then it is an actual quote, and not just some reporter paraphrasing you incorrectly. Hell, I didn't even care if they paraphrased me inside quote marks, as long as the new version was something I agreed with. Of course, they wouldn't agree (I hadn't expected they would), but after repeating the process enough times, with different organizations, I was eventually spared interviews. That was fine with me... I was tired of being quoted saying things that I would never say. ;-)

  98. What does that have to do with anything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God damned weasel..