Maybe it's unfair to the entire economy as a whole (and I do agree that capitalism is getting us 99% there) but I think that fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders should not be law. A shareholder should hold TRUST with a company that the company is operating in their best interests given the shareholders' own voting records within the company. Making it a law that a company should have to try to maximize their short term gains is eroding the foundation of our society.
The problem is the shareholders. There is no law that says you have to maximize short term gains. You do have to look out for shareholders financially though. The problem is shareholder greed. They want to make money quickly rather than build a stable company or a long-term portfolio. So if you, as the CEO, are not squeezing every ounce of short term profit out of a company you will probably be cast aside in favor of someone who will.
Much simpler and much easier to deal with and it doesn't try to redefine terms like all of this nonsense of "Free Software" does. Free means "without cost", nothing more, nothing less.
Actually the word "Free" has many more meanings than "without cost":
grant freedom to; free from confinement
rid: relieve from; "Rid the house of pests"
dislodge: remove or force out from a position; "The dentist dislodged the piece of food that had been stuck under my gums"; "He finally could free the legs of the earthquake victim who was buried in the rubble"
able to act at will; not hampered; not under compulsion or restraint; "free enterprise"; "a free port"; "a free country"; "I have an hour free...
exempt: grant relief or an exemption from a rule or requirement to; "She exempted me from the exam"
unconstrained or not chemically bound in a molecule or not fixed and capable of relatively unrestricted motion; "free expansion"; "free oxygen"; "a free electron"
make (information) available for publication; "release the list with the names of the prisoners"
I'm saying that attempting to assign a rational reason to irrational behavior is futile. I can understand why some people do not particularly like Microsoft but hatred of a software company is purely irrational. I'm not against discovering what kind of mental illness is the cause of the irrationality though if that's what you mean.
That makes sense. However, it is only one thought deep. Carry the analysis to the next level: What is Microsoft doing that causes many people to dislike the company, and is so intense that some people become irrational?
I think you missed the point. Irrational hatred doesn't have a reason, that's why it's irrational. Looking for a reason for the hatred is as useless as looking for a reason why people deny the moon landing or the holocaust. The only reason is a lack of rationality.
The release notes were clear in what features were included. It did not claim full feature parity with 3.5.9.
I already addressed that. No one cares.
Don't claim this was an evil ploy to lie to you and trick you into using something you didn't want to.
The devs said as much. They said if we don't name it 4.0 then no one will use it because of the beta tag.
Gnome has never once had a release with all the features I want. I doubt they ever will. Given a choice between the two, I GREATLY prefer KDE.
Good for you. I don't care. I just made the point that I hope GNOME doesn't fuck up their 3.0 release like KDE fucked up their 4.0 release. Can you even tell me what point version of KDE4 will be the completed version?
The people 'doing' distros now are on the wrong path. I don't care what they think of Chrome-OS and I don't care if they bring their substandard software with them to the party.
Ok well I was replying to the comment about porting old applications to a new windowing system, which still seems pointless to me.
I don't really care for KDE anyway so no I haven't. That wasn't really the point though. It doesn't matter if it works perfectly now. It was rather stupid to go about the 4.0 release the way they did. It should have never been labeled a *.0 release. I don't care what kind of disclaimer the devs gave. It was obviously a ploy to get some people to use it, it worked and it pissed people off. Now KDE has a problem where no one knows when stable really hits. Did it hit already? What version number? Is EVERYTHING working that worked under KDE3? If not then is it really stable? I just hope GNOME doesn't do it this way. They need to have everything in place when 3.0 drops. None of this half-done shit, waiting for release after release just to be able to achieve things we could do years ago on GNOME 2.x.
Yeah, he is joking or trolling. Installation of drivers under x64 Linux is far easier then on 64-bit Windows (for me even 32-bit windows fetch-the-driver and install procedure is tiresome comparing to just-works Ubuntu way). But there is some stuff that works with Win64 and not with Linux, i.e., I didn't manage to have audio over HDMI on Ubuntu (which "just worked" in Vista x64).
While that may be true it has nothing to do with the actual distinction between 64-bit and 32-bit. 64-bit Linux is well supported by applications and drivers alike to the point that I don't even notice I'm running 64-bit. You're constantly reminded in Windows that you're running 64-bit because half the hardware that is supported under Win32 isn't supported under Win64.
Google are doing the right thing, the same thing Apple did to UNIX - fresh start, clean slate, force everyone to re-evaluate and do things right.. then and only after a few years maybe consider adding a rootless X-server (I believe it was OSX 10.3 that finally had X as an install option?)
Considering the amount of backlash against cloud computing in general I don't think you'll find many people agreeing with you that this is the "right thing" to do. I don't think many developers are going to care to port their application to another platform either. No doubt you'll get people to write new applications and port some existing ones over but it's far fetched to think this is somehow going to change the way things are done on a standard Linux distro. No one is going to throw the baby out with the bath water just because Google doesn't use X. There is a lot invested in X and the new acceleration architctures that are being actively developed are far and away more advanced than something Google can come up on its own with in a short amount of time.
You're joking right? 64-bit Linux has way less issues with driver compatibility than does any version of 64-bit Windows. I can't even think of a driver that doesn't work on 64-bit Linux.
Considering how close C# is to other languages like C and Java I would love to see them try to patent the syntax. Literally dozens of languages would be affected by a patent on syntax if it was allowed to go through. If you're waiting for MS to extend the community promise to every possible piece of software in existence I wouldn't hold my breath.
1) Dump X11 and all its 1950s cruft. its just NOT APPROPRIATE
2) provide porting guidelines for people who wish to make/convert native applications for chrome OS, for those things one doesnt want to do on the web (DVD replay/ripping, video editing, photo editing, online backup clients, scanner/printer utilities
Why dump X and then make it possible to run native applications that require they be ported? Wouldn't it be so much easier to just provide a root-less X server and instantly make native applications available? It sounds like a lot of work to port everything to a new windowing system when providing a root-less X server would achieve the same thing without having to port individual applications.
I've always suspected the underpinnings were at fault (sorry X, I love you but still) so maybe Google's new system could even be useful for GNOME and KDE too! I guess we'll just have to wait and see:)
I think you're going to be severely disappointed when Google does release their display system for ChromeOS. It doesn't need to do much (just display a browser or prism application or whatever) so I can't imagine it being very advanced. It's more likely going to be extremely lean and simple, without many options. Perhaps it will use something akin to the card system of the Palm Pre. In other words don't expect something that is going to be useful to 90% of the Linux desktops already out there.
You just can't win in the software world. People bitch when you create new features because there are still issues to be fixed but people also bitch when you just just fix bugs because they want new features! Personally I'm not begging for many new features in GNOME right now and I think the KDE fiasco was a mistake. I hope GNOME gets it right when they start on GNOME 3.0.
What kind of car do you have that can travel 500 miles on a single tank? That's not very common but 300 miles per tank is common. The charge time is probably the biggest obstacle but 300 miles on a single charge isn't bad at all and is comparable to the range of most vehicles on the road today.
The biggest problem with having private citizens monitor you is that you don't know what they are reporting or not reporting. They could protect people they know and punish people they don't like. Who monitors them? What happens if someone does something legal but generally frowned upon? Private citizens can release the video but law enforcement has regulations that disallow that sort of behavior. Law enforcement has mechanisms for investigating internal illegal activities. Who monitors private citizens and what they do with their surveillance.
Have you people never signed up for a cell phone before? Every cell phone contract requires a credit check. Credit checks are generally performed with the SSN. There is no conspiracy here. This isn't anything specific to the Pre or to Sprint.
Windows Mobile certainly does suck. My girlfriend manages a small cell phone store and the don't carry a single Windows phone. They will order you one if you really want it but not before warning you how much the OS sucks. They have a service center so they deal directly with phone issues and Windows has proven to be too much of a hassle. People constantly complain that the system is slow as hell and crashes often and there is nothing the service techs can do about it because it's the shitty OS, not a physical problem with the phone. I know one of her techs and he's a Windows fanboy and he can't even stand Windows Mobile.
What happened to a userspace that you could almost remember off the top of your head?
People decided they wanted to do more with their Linux Desktop than just play nethack.
What happened to being able to compile your own system without spending a week tracking down some minor version update to some package that you need in order to compile your FRICKING CORE system?
The problem is the shareholders. There is no law that says you have to maximize short term gains. You do have to look out for shareholders financially though. The problem is shareholder greed. They want to make money quickly rather than build a stable company or a long-term portfolio. So if you, as the CEO, are not squeezing every ounce of short term profit out of a company you will probably be cast aside in favor of someone who will.
Actually the word "Free" has many more meanings than "without cost":
I'm saying that attempting to assign a rational reason to irrational behavior is futile. I can understand why some people do not particularly like Microsoft but hatred of a software company is purely irrational. I'm not against discovering what kind of mental illness is the cause of the irrationality though if that's what you mean.
I think you missed the point. Irrational hatred doesn't have a reason, that's why it's irrational. Looking for a reason for the hatred is as useless as looking for a reason why people deny the moon landing or the holocaust. The only reason is a lack of rationality.
Yes.
I already addressed that. No one cares.
The devs said as much. They said if we don't name it 4.0 then no one will use it because of the beta tag.
Good for you. I don't care. I just made the point that I hope GNOME doesn't fuck up their 3.0 release like KDE fucked up their 4.0 release. Can you even tell me what point version of KDE4 will be the completed version?
Ok well I was replying to the comment about porting old applications to a new windowing system, which still seems pointless to me.
I don't really care for KDE anyway so no I haven't. That wasn't really the point though. It doesn't matter if it works perfectly now. It was rather stupid to go about the 4.0 release the way they did. It should have never been labeled a *.0 release. I don't care what kind of disclaimer the devs gave. It was obviously a ploy to get some people to use it, it worked and it pissed people off. Now KDE has a problem where no one knows when stable really hits. Did it hit already? What version number? Is EVERYTHING working that worked under KDE3? If not then is it really stable? I just hope GNOME doesn't do it this way. They need to have everything in place when 3.0 drops. None of this half-done shit, waiting for release after release just to be able to achieve things we could do years ago on GNOME 2.x.
While that may be true it has nothing to do with the actual distinction between 64-bit and 32-bit. 64-bit Linux is well supported by applications and drivers alike to the point that I don't even notice I'm running 64-bit. You're constantly reminded in Windows that you're running 64-bit because half the hardware that is supported under Win32 isn't supported under Win64.
Considering the amount of backlash against cloud computing in general I don't think you'll find many people agreeing with you that this is the "right thing" to do. I don't think many developers are going to care to port their application to another platform either. No doubt you'll get people to write new applications and port some existing ones over but it's far fetched to think this is somehow going to change the way things are done on a standard Linux distro. No one is going to throw the baby out with the bath water just because Google doesn't use X. There is a lot invested in X and the new acceleration architctures that are being actively developed are far and away more advanced than something Google can come up on its own with in a short amount of time.
You're joking right? 64-bit Linux has way less issues with driver compatibility than does any version of 64-bit Windows. I can't even think of a driver that doesn't work on 64-bit Linux.
Maybe I missed the joke but X has nothing to do with sound.
There is a huge difference between porting complex applications like media players and creating an application that farts on command.
Considering how close C# is to other languages like C and Java I would love to see them try to patent the syntax. Literally dozens of languages would be affected by a patent on syntax if it was allowed to go through. If you're waiting for MS to extend the community promise to every possible piece of software in existence I wouldn't hold my breath.
A beta is, and has been available for months now.
Why dump X and then make it possible to run native applications that require they be ported? Wouldn't it be so much easier to just provide a root-less X server and instantly make native applications available? It sounds like a lot of work to port everything to a new windowing system when providing a root-less X server would achieve the same thing without having to port individual applications.
I think you're going to be severely disappointed when Google does release their display system for ChromeOS. It doesn't need to do much (just display a browser or prism application or whatever) so I can't imagine it being very advanced. It's more likely going to be extremely lean and simple, without many options. Perhaps it will use something akin to the card system of the Palm Pre. In other words don't expect something that is going to be useful to 90% of the Linux desktops already out there.
You just can't win in the software world. People bitch when you create new features because there are still issues to be fixed but people also bitch when you just just fix bugs because they want new features! Personally I'm not begging for many new features in GNOME right now and I think the KDE fiasco was a mistake. I hope GNOME gets it right when they start on GNOME 3.0.
Vala is nothing like C# other than syntax.
Actually it does mean something. As a representative of Microsoft making a promissory statement has legal implications.
What kind of car do you have that can travel 500 miles on a single tank? That's not very common but 300 miles per tank is common. The charge time is probably the biggest obstacle but 300 miles on a single charge isn't bad at all and is comparable to the range of most vehicles on the road today.
The biggest problem with having private citizens monitor you is that you don't know what they are reporting or not reporting. They could protect people they know and punish people they don't like. Who monitors them? What happens if someone does something legal but generally frowned upon? Private citizens can release the video but law enforcement has regulations that disallow that sort of behavior. Law enforcement has mechanisms for investigating internal illegal activities. Who monitors private citizens and what they do with their surveillance.
Have you people never signed up for a cell phone before? Every cell phone contract requires a credit check. Credit checks are generally performed with the SSN. There is no conspiracy here. This isn't anything specific to the Pre or to Sprint.
Windows Mobile certainly does suck. My girlfriend manages a small cell phone store and the don't carry a single Windows phone. They will order you one if you really want it but not before warning you how much the OS sucks. They have a service center so they deal directly with phone issues and Windows has proven to be too much of a hassle. People constantly complain that the system is slow as hell and crashes often and there is nothing the service techs can do about it because it's the shitty OS, not a physical problem with the phone. I know one of her techs and he's a Windows fanboy and he can't even stand Windows Mobile.
People decided they wanted to do more with their Linux Desktop than just play nethack.
Like what?
Mono is only 25MB. Boost is 24MB and gtkmm is 16MB. The dependencies for Gnote take up more space than the dependency of Mono for Tomboy.