That WAS a good one. Posts like his should get a "special" moderation of -2. I can't believe that someone who reads this site, being bombarded by free information on _the_way_things_are_ could actually post like that, unless it was a joke which is almost more believeable.
First and last, I'd just like to say DONT FUCK WITH ME AND MY FAMILY OR MY COUNTRY. This includes everyone brain washed into believing Britney Spears is a diety to the litigous and scanalous entities who push the whole image, along with the lawmakers who enforce this thought policing.
We kicked the rest of the worlds ass for this place and we will do it again all day long if we have to. We dont need paperwork and beauracracy to keep the peace, we need an ugly stick and a good motto ( you feelin' froggy?) hanging on the wall in everyones house.
This just goes to show how few people will stand up for what they believe in anymore, let alone even know what they believe in.
Good point, but I know of thousands or even millions of Americans who would be better served with a hot meal than a robot watching them suffer at their own expense. You are a NAZI.
a search for the exact string "linux is better than windows" yeilds:
1-10 of 1,686 containing "linux is better than windows" (0.30 seconds)
on msn.
on google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 795 for "linux is better than windows". (0.34 seconds)
its only in beta though, so im sure theyll fix that soon.
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Ill tell you what I think is wrong with the whole idea: microsoft will do whatever they want to the linux kernel. Their bastardization of the OS/Kernel will violate the GPL, be the death of the Free OS, and will probably be the big event that tests the GPL in court. What I dont get is how their EULA stands without question in a court but something like the GPL has to be "tested".
It will wind up in a pawn shop after someone steals it anyway, if it doesnt break first from someone sneezing near it.
Where is the source code? I bet they saved a ton on R & D. It probably took them a day to hack up the kernel and fit in their cheap hardware and a week to find(fix?) the bugs. $700? That thing better check my mail, call mom, and walk the dog! Where is the source???? What if it panics on me and I need to fix it?? Send it off, wait 6 months only to find out it fell off the boat into the pacific?
Seriously though, its great that theyre not spending money on crapware that would ultimately raise the price of the product, but I still disagree with the premise of buying in to planned obsolescence.
Sorry - it just pisses me off to picture some dork plugging into an XP box not knowing a damn thing about whats going on inside either machine.
How about giving it to the Open Source community so we can replace Crapware 2010 XP PRO v5.595z Post-Millenium Pre-Eon Server Station Media Edition with something that people can learn from instead of dump money into.
Aside from my views, it is truly sad, in reading posts regarding where monies would otherwise go if not spent on microsoft, that people would use thier 'discretion' on the same old bullshit like fancy clothes, pointless music, and of course the obligatory yin-yang coffee tables.
Youd think they could style out the lander with a better camera. Billions spent on putting that thing on some remote moon and they equip it with some convenience store disposable camera.
yep, "we were bashing microsoft". very perceptive. i bet you get paid to be perceptive.
this is slashdot.org, ran by Open Source advocates and frequented by a million Slashdotters. don't expect to sell many copies of XP around here.
true enough, Windows is an "ENTIRE OPERATING SYSTEM", as you so tactfully put. that is not our fault, sir.
besides, you are acting like there is some sort of comparison between the security of any GNU/Linux OS and a give Windows "OS", for lack of a better word. go click on your new spyware removal tool hahaha...
True enough, but does this illegally extend their monopoly or are they finally owning up to the problems they have caused by releasing a sub-standard (contrast Firefox) browser for all to use and abuse?
"this might be a good PR for Microsoft who is taking some hard hits from critics"
You got that right. Its about time they did something. Talk about TCO. Think of the amount of money spyware ridden Windows machines have costed end users and businesses to repair.
for downloading crap that these organizations push. Its all junk designed to make people buy useless crap and live in a fantasy world where everyone is a supermodel and nothing bad ever happens without a happy ending.
Of course what they are doing is bullshit, but what can the hapless masses do? These organizations and their affiliations have claws so long and so sharp that if they pulled them out of your tender hides you would probably bleed to death for lack of sensory input.
Do something original. Listen to something original. Contact the bands you like directly and ask to buy music straight from them if you MUST subscribe to mainstream media. Otherwise, go park your ass in front of the TV, eat some big macs, boot into your AOL/OS Optimized for Stealing Bandwidth from Dumbasses, crank up KORP, and get out the credit card youve given to half the internet through IE. If you dont have the money to live the way they want you to live, then you must not deserve to live. You COULD fight back and tell them to take their brainwashing bullshit music and movies and stick them in their ass... but then you wouldnt be COOL.
"...and if you don't like it, i believe you can go to hell..."
I currently do the UNIX tech support thing for a big web hosting company. Talk about multi-tasking...
When I first started I had alot of energy, especially after taking time of from employment in general as a wiring tech, and was a little amazed at how tired the majority of the day crew seemed. I was up and about running around fixing the hell out of the massive operation, doing my little job, but I found more often than not the most I could do was take notes and submit a ticket for others to work on as time became available. It didnt take long for me to figure out why everyone in there looked dead.
Now I work nights and I close just as many requests as during the day, but I have minimal call backs and am able to learn much more as the time I spend is focused mostly to the single problem at hand.
Interestingly enough that in itself is multi-tasking. The troubleshooting of DNS, mail server configurations, network issues, general user error, abuse, security, SPAM, databases, third party software blunders, scripting, PHP, Santy, firewalls, file permissions, passwords, billing errors, you-name-it-and-its-happened, and those especially important customers' issues with dozens of domains spread across as many computers can make one small problem feel like many.
All of that under the policy of NOT screwing up ANYTHING adds to the stress exponentially!
Nevertheless life moves on as we fix and fix and fix. Back and forth between the NOC, the Data Center, and the phones during the day with heavy call volume makes working at night with just as much work seem much more structured and productive. It is a lesson that goes unheeded by management as they continue to push people to their limits ultimately driving them away by over working them. I know I wont be going anywhere soon because the work I get to do is one by one clean up of left over tickets from the day crew. Poor guys.
Day or night, we are just used to it. Some people have been there for years and are just as happy as I am even though I am relatively new. Much of this has to do with loving the job and being able to actually get paid to fix a Linux box! I guess that in itself is the most important factor to consider when looking at how stressful a given occupation can be.
one thing this article fails to take into account is when microsoft does turn around and buy up something like ubuntu and dump billions into it. they will eventually have to do something like that because WE ARE KICKING THIER ASS, man.
yes its sad, but its true. they will proprietize it eventually and try to figure out a way to push all of use free thinkers out of the picture for good. i hate the idea, and i hate the possibility of it becoming a reality, but honestly i just dont see anything else happening.
we allready know they had some dude who wrote a UNIX re-write NT for them, or whatever. we allready know they nabbed the tcp/ip stack from BSD, denied it, and then were forced to admit it when the BSD guys called them on it after pushing buttons in the stack that proved it was thier code and only thier code. in all probability microsoft steals gpl'ed code left and right but we will never have any way of proving it unless we incorporate obfuscative techniques in coding to verify its authenticy. on that note, as it stands there is only one contention we must follow, and that is to assume that the personalized comments in your code will dispappear with the openness you created it with.
so what does all this mean? not a damn thing in all probability, but ill tell you what i think: i think its time we start building in fool-proof fail-safe authentication mechanisms into our code so that it would cost microsoft more money to steal it, tear it up, and implement it than it would for them to write the usual sub-standardly buggy software that we are used to from them.
thats my 10 cents, since 1+1=10 in our world. too bad it doesnt mean that to my bank. im just content knowing deep inside that it takes dedicated people to work on NIX boxes, and only those people will have the jobs that this kind of article brings into question.
sig: if you don't like it, i believe you can go to hell.
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That WAS a good one. Posts like his should get a "special" moderation of -2. I can't believe that someone who reads this site, being bombarded by free information on _the_way_things_are_ could actually post like that, unless it was a joke which is almost more believeable.
First and last, I'd just like to say DONT FUCK WITH ME AND MY FAMILY OR MY COUNTRY. This includes everyone brain washed into believing Britney Spears is a diety to the litigous and scanalous entities who push the whole image, along with the lawmakers who enforce this thought policing.
We kicked the rest of the worlds ass for this place and we will do it again all day long if we have to. We dont need paperwork and beauracracy to keep the peace, we need an ugly stick and a good motto ( you feelin' froggy?) hanging on the wall in everyones house.
This just goes to show how few people will stand up for what they believe in anymore, let alone even know what they believe in.
Good point, but I know of thousands or even millions of Americans who would be better served with a hot meal than a robot watching them suffer at their own expense. You are a NAZI.
a search for the exact string "linux is better than windows" yeilds:
1-10 of 1,686 containing "linux is better than windows" (0.30 seconds)
on msn. on google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 795 for "linux is better than windows". (0.34 seconds)
its only in beta though, so im sure theyll fix that soon.
Ill tell you what I think is wrong with the whole idea: microsoft will do whatever they want to the linux kernel. Their bastardization of the OS/Kernel will violate the GPL, be the death of the Free OS, and will probably be the big event that tests the GPL in court. What I dont get is how their EULA stands without question in a court but something like the GPL has to be "tested".
Some people have no sense of humor. Eat some ass, all of you.
Go buy more stuff!
It will wind up in a pawn shop after someone steals it anyway, if it doesnt break first from someone sneezing near it.
Where is the source code? I bet they saved a ton on R & D. It probably took them a day to hack up the kernel and fit in their cheap hardware and a week to find(fix?) the bugs. $700? That thing better check my mail, call mom, and walk the dog! Where is the source???? What if it panics on me and I need to fix it?? Send it off, wait 6 months only to find out it fell off the boat into the pacific?
Seriously though, its great that theyre not spending money on crapware that would ultimately raise the price of the product, but I still disagree with the premise of buying in to planned obsolescence.
Sorry - it just pisses me off to picture some dork plugging into an XP box not knowing a damn thing about whats going on inside either machine.
How about giving it to the Open Source community so we can replace Crapware 2010 XP PRO v5.595z Post-Millenium Pre-Eon Server Station Media Edition with something that people can learn from instead of dump money into.
Aside from my views, it is truly sad, in reading posts regarding where monies would otherwise go if not spent on microsoft, that people would use thier 'discretion' on the same old bullshit like fancy clothes, pointless music, and of course the obligatory yin-yang coffee tables.
Just goes to show how well the money donated to education was actually spent.
To pay more when they raise the rates in six months...
Youd think they could style out the lander with a better camera. Billions spent on putting that thing on some remote moon and they equip it with some convenience store disposable camera.
yep, "we were bashing microsoft". very perceptive. i bet you get paid to be perceptive.
this is slashdot.org, ran by Open Source advocates and frequented by a million Slashdotters. don't expect to sell many copies of XP around here.
true enough, Windows is an "ENTIRE OPERATING SYSTEM", as you so tactfully put. that is not our fault, sir.
besides, you are acting like there is some sort of comparison between the security of any GNU/Linux OS and a give Windows "OS", for lack of a better word. go click on your new spyware removal tool hahaha...
what do you need the cd for?
hint: boot parameters...
peestawf@cracked:~/testing/93% ./test
child 1 VMAs 0
[+] moved stack bfffe000, task_size=0xc0000000,
map_base=0xbf800000
[+] vmalloc area 0xff400000 - 0xffffd000
[-] FAILED: open lib (/dev/shm/_elf_lib not
writable?) (Permission denied)
Killed
i guess botching up a kernel compiles has its perks.
?
and look at the amount of code it took. at least it aint javascript...
this is newsworthy? the regular development cycle of an open source product is as such. bugs are found, made public, and FIXED ASAP.
the submitting party is either involved with microsoft, needs glasses, or a swift kick in the ass.
moron.. it says right ON THE PAGE that this has been fixed.
hahahaa, your'e all pissed off. cheer, up, at least you dont work for microsoft or intel. oh, wait, you probably do. is that why you are so mad?
Three people shocked by news of planned obsolescence in consumer products!
Please RTF history about their businesses practices before you criticize someone else's foresight.
Where were you when the rolled out Office? Running around telling people to download the free beta I'm sure.
They just bought the company afterall."
True enough, but does this illegally extend their monopoly or are they finally owning up to the problems they have caused by releasing a sub-standard (contrast Firefox) browser for all to use and abuse?
"this might be a good PR for Microsoft who is taking some hard hits from critics"
You got that right. Its about time they did something. Talk about TCO. Think of the amount of money spyware ridden Windows machines have costed end users and businesses to repair.
And Microsft claims that open source software stifles innovation...
How long would this 'beta version' have taken to be released, if at all, if it were not for Firefox pushing the standards to a higher level?
for them to charge consumers for what they have allready charged consumers for.
for downloading crap that these organizations push. Its all junk designed to make people buy useless crap and live in a fantasy world where everyone is a supermodel and nothing bad ever happens without a happy ending.
Of course what they are doing is bullshit, but what can the hapless masses do? These organizations and their affiliations have claws so long and so sharp that if they pulled them out of your tender hides you would probably bleed to death for lack of sensory input.
Do something original. Listen to something original. Contact the bands you like directly and ask to buy music straight from them if you MUST subscribe to mainstream media. Otherwise, go park your ass in front of the TV, eat some big macs, boot into your AOL/OS Optimized for Stealing Bandwidth from Dumbasses, crank up KORP, and get out the credit card youve given to half the internet through IE. If you dont have the money to live the way they want you to live, then you must not deserve to live. You COULD fight back and tell them to take their brainwashing bullshit music and movies and stick them in their ass... but then you wouldnt be COOL.
"...and if you don't like it, i believe you can go to hell..."
I currently do the UNIX tech support thing for a big web hosting company. Talk about multi-tasking...
When I first started I had alot of energy, especially after taking time of from employment in general as a wiring tech, and was a little amazed at how tired the majority of the day crew seemed. I was up and about running around fixing the hell out of the massive operation, doing my little job, but I found more often than not the most I could do was take notes and submit a ticket for others to work on as time became available. It didnt take long for me to figure out why everyone in there looked dead.
Now I work nights and I close just as many requests as during the day, but I have minimal call backs and am able to learn much more as the time I spend is focused mostly to the single problem at hand.
Interestingly enough that in itself is multi-tasking. The troubleshooting of DNS, mail server configurations, network issues, general user error, abuse, security, SPAM, databases, third party software blunders, scripting, PHP, Santy, firewalls, file permissions, passwords, billing errors, you-name-it-and-its-happened, and those especially important customers' issues with dozens of domains spread across as many computers can make one small problem feel like many.
All of that under the policy of NOT screwing up ANYTHING adds to the stress exponentially!
Nevertheless life moves on as we fix and fix and fix. Back and forth between the NOC, the Data Center, and the phones during the day with heavy call volume makes working at night with just as much work seem much more structured and productive. It is a lesson that goes unheeded by management as they continue to push people to their limits ultimately driving them away by over working them. I know I wont be going anywhere soon because the work I get to do is one by one clean up of left over tickets from the day crew. Poor guys.
Day or night, we are just used to it. Some people have been there for years and are just as happy as I am even though I am relatively new. Much of this has to do with loving the job and being able to actually get paid to fix a Linux box! I guess that in itself is the most important factor to consider when looking at how stressful a given occupation can be.
one thing this article fails to take into account is when microsoft does turn around and buy up something like ubuntu and dump billions into it. they will eventually have to do something like that because WE ARE KICKING THIER ASS, man.
yes its sad, but its true. they will proprietize it eventually and try to figure out a way to push all of use free thinkers out of the picture for good. i hate the idea, and i hate the possibility of it becoming a reality, but honestly i just dont see anything else happening.
we allready know they had some dude who wrote a UNIX re-write NT for them, or whatever. we allready know they nabbed the tcp/ip stack from BSD, denied it, and then were forced to admit it when the BSD guys called them on it after pushing buttons in the stack that proved it was thier code and only thier code. in all probability microsoft steals gpl'ed code left and right but we will never have any way of proving it unless we incorporate obfuscative techniques in coding to verify its authenticy. on that note, as it stands there is only one contention we must follow, and that is to assume that the personalized comments in your code will dispappear with the openness you created it with.
so what does all this mean? not a damn thing in all probability, but ill tell you what i think: i think its time we start building in fool-proof fail-safe authentication mechanisms into our code so that it would cost microsoft more money to steal it, tear it up, and implement it than it would for them to write the usual sub-standardly buggy software that we are used to from them.
thats my 10 cents, since 1+1=10 in our world. too bad it doesnt mean that to my bank. im just content knowing deep inside that it takes dedicated people to work on NIX boxes, and only those people will have the jobs that this kind of article brings into question.
sig: if you don't like it, i believe you can go to hell.
-trinity from The Matrix