But FP, you forget, whenever the feds have been caught with things they shouldn't have had, the discipline has been handed out and laws/measures passed to make sure it never happens again (tm).:)
It may not be likely, but you never knew. High tech surveillance may have prevented dozens of major terrorist attacks. They certainly are going to make that public knowledge
Exactly my point when I address these people who insist, vehemently, that surveillance is only used when properly authorized by a court order.
Agreed, and the fact that we're still learning today what was done 60 years ago gives me no illusion about the extent to which it's being used today and the extent to which it was used long before the Patriot Act was a politician's dream.
Notice how many laws have been passed since then to enforce civil rights and equality.
And notice how police still beat down young African men in California, how a disproportionately large number of young African men are in the incarceration system, and how no one is a slave because we conveniently get paid with bank notes--but living conditions in the deep south, or even many northern ghettos, are hardly any better than during slavery. As for slavery being a matter of buying and selling people: there are plenty of examples with job recruiters (headhunters) and staffing agencies (Manpower, On Assignment, Lab Support, etc.). As for rights there are no end of people who acknowledge that they get treated like sh_t on the job but can't do anything about it because it, just barely, pays the bills.
So what did we pay politicians to write all those laws for? The existence of a law in a book doesn't make me feel any better about the state of society.
C.) Nobody's been investigated for discussing anti-Bush views via SMS
What makes you think they'd put it on the front page if they were? Investigations are, by nature, kept secret so as not to alert the person under investigation. Any front-page news investigation that you hear about was either leaked, it was decided that the better tactic for that instance would be to scare the person out, or else the investigating agency already has all the information that they really need and want to creat the media circus act for political reasons.
There are two types of crack. There is the "I don't give a f__k crack" and there is "I'm a patriotic fool crack". You're obviously on the second kind.
(1) We have the second amendment. The chinese don't. If the government gets out of hand, we always have the upper hand
Right. How many lawyers can you afford if your government decides to spy on you? Oh, you're rich? Good for you. The majority of us can barely pay the 60% tax/fee/surcharge rate that the government has on everything from direct income to toilet paper to mowing your neighbor's lawn for them.
(2) We have a seperate judiciary, for the most part
Of judges who aren't technically savvy enough to decide if digital wiretapping is protected by the same laws as telephone wiretapping. Of judges who aren't conscious enough to decide if e-mail in the 21st century deserves the same confidential treatment as tampering with US postal mail in the 19th century. Puh-leez.
How many terrorists have you caught today? Didn't think so.
And how many terrorists have been caught in the last three years using powers allocated by these new gargantuan bills? Didn't think so. Any terrorists who have been caught recently have been under surveillance for a _LONG_ time. We didn't need the Patriot Act or any other new wiretapping laws because the Intelligence Community already had the line on these fools.
Citizens (that means YOU, unless you are a cop) have more rights to investigate crime and build cases against criminals than police do
That's crap. Attempting to launch a private investigation could very well lead to stalking charges.
Ask a bounty hunter
Bounty hunters are licensed by the state.
(4) The United States is the BEST and the LAST defense agaisnt tyranny.
And the United States, being the strongest tyrannical force on the planet, is the BEST and (currently) ONLY global force exercising tyrannical powers.
Oh the hypocrisy...
If you really think the US is stinkier than other countries
No said the US is worse. The US is still better. Your post acts like it doesn't stink at all. You're not living in reality. Perhaps you should leave to find someplace that is perfect so that you can truthfully go on your cheerleading crack-rant?
Their government just serves as a reminder of how far we in America have yet to fall
I think our news stories about their government serve as a reminder of how many news stories we don't publish about what our government has already been doing for years.
Another government apologist citing extreme hypothetical examples to push a point.
How many terrorists or plots has all of this surveillance stopped? Close to zero. How many terrorists or plots have been stopped by plain old, word-of-mouth, guy-on-the-street info? More than the high-tech surveillance. How much does it all cost? Far too much.
How do you know AT&T doesn't notify the police? Would the police tell you immediately if they were notified of your private messages? No. They investigate first and then decide whether to notify you.
Such blind trust is, while admirable, also laughable.
I don't think the concept of coming up with a pity story to get around stealing is complicated. It's as old as dirt. So my question still stands: How could the founding fathers _NOT_ see it coming when they gave Congress the right to borrow money on everyone else's credit?
People have a greater tendency to freak out when trying anything new, be it a psychological experience, sky diving, scuba diving, driving, motorcycling, snowboarding, bicycling, or anything which requires intense concentration.
P.S. Since I advocated the use LSD or shrooms, please note: Never, ever, ever, ever take it alone and if you have never taken it, take it with some one who has. If you don't follow those rules, you will have a bad time. Guaranteed.
Oh give me a break. You wannabes with your hand-holding advocacy should give it up already. You just want to have a better chance of someone involving you with their experience.
Modems would not send NO CARRIER out to the remote end. Rather, the NO CARRIER that a BBS would record would be the report from it's own local modem indicating that it no longer had a signal from the remote end. Proof? Many of my friends and I ran BBSs and we all set our modems to V0--numeric error messages. Not once did our logs ever show "NO CARRIER". It was always 0 (OK), 2 (RING), or 3 (NO CARRIER). In the earliest days dropped carrier was a big problem because many modems were not equipped to detect a loss of carrier and would happily continue talking with an end which had hung up.
The same goes for the escape sequence. You could send your own modem into command mode but you cannot send a remote modem into command mode.
If you really feel strongly about your hoax then please point to some real citations. My friends and I have been using my style of.sig for many, many years and have yet to be contacted by any sysadmin, user, or other friend that it causes any problems.
Typically I like to run against the government grain simply because I don't believe Big Brother is a good concept. Overhead always causes problems: greed, graft, bribes, special interests, unaccountability. Ask the Soviet Union about it. Ask Afghanistan about it. Ask Cuba about it. Heck, ask Saddam Hussein about it. I'm sure he'll gladly point out that any overhead power is a ripe field for exploitation.
So we have this ping-pong match of people who hold the government in dreamy-eyed awe and people who see only the ill uses of governmental power. Somewhere in between lies the truth. Sometimes Big Brother gets it right, sometimes Big Brother gets it for himself. The only real way to eliminate the problem is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. That's a fine and dandy solution but Big Brother writes too many paychecks, makes too many people feel warm fuzzy and comfortable, and keeps too many bankers and politicians living a very easy luxurious life.
As for prisoner abuse that's a touchy subject. I've heard that some of the fellows who were stacked up on each other were being disciplined for attempting to start an exercise yard riot. Some of the people who were blindfolded and threatened with dogs were guilty of assaulting prison guards or officials. Certainly there are some legitimate cases of abuse but, all in all, every society has it. The Taliban had it, it happens in Paris and Amsterdam, the British _definitely_ have some neat B&D equipment, and American civilian police are caught abusing and bullying citizens all the time.
There is the hypocrisy to address. Well, crap, that's just part of life. I don't like it anymore than anyone else. The US likes to strut around the world and point fingers and meddle in affairs and tell everyone else how to run their nations when, in all reality, the US gov't isn't doing such a hot, fair, honest, or kind job within its own borders. Once again it's the Big Brother syndrome. The only way to fix it is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. And, again, there are too many paychecks, too many leeches, too many bleeding hearts (who don't have what it takes to do something on their own but like to bleed with someone else's money), and too many comfortable and wealthy politicians, bankers, brokers, and attorneys.
So what of this "see through walls" technology? What if it is used by the local police someday to scan each and every house as they drive slowly down the block? Unless we can fix the Big Brother problem there's absolutely no sense in working yourself into a froth over the obligatory abuses that come from Big Brother.
Personally I'd like to get rid of Big Brother. I'm an advocate of small efficient government just like I'm an advocate of small efficient software. But just like Microsoft, Big Brother has a monopoly on the field and plenty of loyal (or at least contractually trapped) followers.
So they were for being against opposing patents. This is your brain on drugs
Agreed. If it weren't for the context my initial reading was to think that corporations had gotten the better of politics. Perhaps it should read: "the European Council of Ministers, to keep software patents out of Europe, voted in favor of throwing out the European Parliament's efforts".
The issue is the prepositional phrase "to keep software patents out of Europe". Is it serving as an adjective or an adverb? Does it modify "efforts", meaning the European Parliament had been striving to keep software patents out of Europe, or does it modify "voted", meaning the action of voting served to keep software patents out of Europe? The meaning of the prepositional phrase, in its published position, does not become apparent without the context around it.
What a bunch of complete, perfectionist, apologist drivel.
Overweight can be as bad as malnourished or even worse. Malnourished people work harder to get nourished. Overweight people just slop around like the world owes them the right to flatulate and get paid.
The parent said that two people have to work two support a lifestyle which was had by a single income here in the US. Why are you bringing in comparisons to other countries? Let's not broaden the argument.
The 9/11 thing was no more unexpected than the attack on Pearl Harbor. The US gov't knew that it's policy of self-righteousness was pissing off everyone from French farmers to Chinese monks and they kept doing it because they have small-penis syndrome. I love America and I hate what happened but, damnit, if you keep pushing people around eventually one of them is going to egg your house.
Spending billions on defense does not guarantee effectiveness and your proposition to throw up your hands in despair is not the proper alternative. We could probably end all the animosity if we would take the military budget and just flat out GIVE IT to the poor people in Muslim nations, install running water and electricity for them, and then LEAVE. It'd sure be cheaper and there'd be less violence involved. Too bad the US has a horrible reputation at trying to stick around to meddle with anything they ever want to help with as if helping someone gives a slaveowner's right over them.
You're delusional if you think we pay less in taxes than other industrialized nations. They pay more up front, we pay more in hidden fees. I have a spreadsheet where I keep track of my income taxes, my sales taxes, my liquor taxes, my gasoline taxes, the tax on my cable bill, my telephone bill, the fees for my car, the taxes that I pay in rent for my landlord's property taxes, registration for my vehicle, government tolls on the roads, etc. etc. etc. Last year it was 56.4%. This year, so far, it's at 58.3%.
If it's not the responsibility of the US to placate everyone why is it our responsibility to police them? Saddam Hussein wasn't on the verge of doing anything more than shooting his mouth off again. You don't like to listen to him? CHANGE THE CHANNEL! American citizens, driven mad by tax-induced poverty, commit more crime than any terrorists have ever added up. The difference is that one is a steady trickle and the other is a sudden event that makes news and feeds the reactionary ego.
Get off your high horse. The US government has been listening to you, or me, or anyone for that matter, for decades. They do what they want to do and all your flag waving just makes them feel proud. Maybe if you'd grow a pair and quit living vicariously through their bully tactics they'd start to grow a conscience.
if it wasn't so serious it would be actually funny
Is there an echo in/.? Read the last line of the post.
As for how long the American people are willing to put up with it, consider this: at NO OTHER TIME IN HISTORY has currency been as liquid as it is today. Former empires fell apart because they couldn't get the wheels of the pyramid scheme turning fast enough. In today's world of electronic money moving transactions it's quite easy for the controlling top of the pyramid to quickly allocate funds to any segment below which begins to shake things up. Whether that be in disinformation to squelch reformers or in funding additional propaganda to spread the facade of perfection the fact remains that the money can be allocated at the drop of a hat.
So, the way I see it, the American people have no choice but to put up with it. We simply have no check and balance on the power which is running the pyramid.
Ok, so spying on, detaining, forcing, and stealing doesn't happen. Certainly not in a country that has shiny great rights.
Of course it happens. From my parent post: "At best the concept of rights serves as a deterrent to such violations but, should such a violation actually occur, recouping any sort of compensation requires police reports, proof, evidence, an attorney who gives a plaid rabid flying badger's patootle, and usually more time and hassle than it's worth. For the most part, if a person is targeted, the best thing they can do is pick up, move on, and hope to h-e-double-toothpicks that it doesn't happen again."
Then what in the hell is court all about?
Court is for poster children. From my parent post: "If an attorney happens on a case which is in the right place at the right time then a poster child will be made who rides the political and media wave."
Tell that to SCO/RIAA
From my parent post: "If the rights of a _large_ number of people are violated then the outcry is enough to draw significant attention and warrant the popularity contest of a public lawsuit."
In general I believe in the _concept_ of rights, but, from my parent post: "I have yet to see the concept of rights given justice on an individual basis."
Yikes. Don't be so defensive. I've begun making sport out of the "Try Gentoo!" plugs that appear more often than the software salesmen in the media commercials--"So... how much software do you want to buy today?" "TRY GENTOO!"
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But FP, you forget, whenever the feds have been caught with things they shouldn't have had, the discipline has been handed out and laws/measures passed to make sure it never happens again (tm). :)
It may not be likely, but you never knew. High tech surveillance may have prevented dozens of major terrorist attacks. They certainly are going to make that public knowledge
Exactly my point when I address these people who insist, vehemently, that surveillance is only used when properly authorized by a court order.
Agreed, and the fact that we're still learning today what was done 60 years ago gives me no illusion about the extent to which it's being used today and the extent to which it was used long before the Patriot Act was a politician's dream.
Notice how many laws have been passed since then to enforce civil rights and equality.
And notice how police still beat down young African men in California, how a disproportionately large number of young African men are in the incarceration system, and how no one is a slave because we conveniently get paid with bank notes--but living conditions in the deep south, or even many northern ghettos, are hardly any better than during slavery. As for slavery being a matter of buying and selling people: there are plenty of examples with job recruiters (headhunters) and staffing agencies (Manpower, On Assignment, Lab Support, etc.). As for rights there are no end of people who acknowledge that they get treated like sh_t on the job but can't do anything about it because it, just barely, pays the bills.
So what did we pay politicians to write all those laws for? The existence of a law in a book doesn't make me feel any better about the state of society.
C.) Nobody's been investigated for discussing anti-Bush views via SMS
What makes you think they'd put it on the front page if they were? Investigations are, by nature, kept secret so as not to alert the person under investigation. Any front-page news investigation that you hear about was either leaked, it was decided that the better tactic for that instance would be to scare the person out, or else the investigating agency already has all the information that they really need and want to creat the media circus act for political reasons.
Is that bleating I hear?
There are two types of crack. There is the "I don't give a f__k crack" and there is "I'm a patriotic fool crack". You're obviously on the second kind.
(1) We have the second amendment. The chinese don't. If the government gets out of hand, we always have the upper hand
Right. How many lawyers can you afford if your government decides to spy on you? Oh, you're rich? Good for you. The majority of us can barely pay the 60% tax/fee/surcharge rate that the government has on everything from direct income to toilet paper to mowing your neighbor's lawn for them.
(2) We have a seperate judiciary, for the most part
Of judges who aren't technically savvy enough to decide if digital wiretapping is protected by the same laws as telephone wiretapping. Of judges who aren't conscious enough to decide if e-mail in the 21st century deserves the same confidential treatment as tampering with US postal mail in the 19th century. Puh-leez.
How many terrorists have you caught today? Didn't think so.
And how many terrorists have been caught in the last three years using powers allocated by these new gargantuan bills? Didn't think so. Any terrorists who have been caught recently have been under surveillance for a _LONG_ time. We didn't need the Patriot Act or any other new wiretapping laws because the Intelligence Community already had the line on these fools.
Citizens (that means YOU, unless you are a cop) have more rights to investigate crime and build cases against criminals than police do
That's crap. Attempting to launch a private investigation could very well lead to stalking charges.
Ask a bounty hunter
Bounty hunters are licensed by the state.
(4) The United States is the BEST and the LAST defense agaisnt tyranny.
And the United States, being the strongest tyrannical force on the planet, is the BEST and (currently) ONLY global force exercising tyrannical powers.
Oh the hypocrisy...
If you really think the US is stinkier than other countries
No said the US is worse. The US is still better. Your post acts like it doesn't stink at all. You're not living in reality. Perhaps you should leave to find someplace that is perfect so that you can truthfully go on your cheerleading crack-rant?
I think the USSR died because it tried the "Keep up with the Jones'" game with the US. We flat out broke their economy.
China, on the other hand, is not so easily sucked in by economic games of chicken with the US.
Their government just serves as a reminder of how far we in America have yet to fall
I think our news stories about their government serve as a reminder of how many news stories we don't publish about what our government has already been doing for years.
Another government apologist citing extreme hypothetical examples to push a point.
How many terrorists or plots has all of this surveillance stopped? Close to zero. How many terrorists or plots have been stopped by plain old, word-of-mouth, guy-on-the-street info? More than the high-tech surveillance. How much does it all cost? Far too much.
How do you know AT&T doesn't notify the police? Would the police tell you immediately if they were notified of your private messages? No. They investigate first and then decide whether to notify you.
Such blind trust is, while admirable, also laughable.
It'd be okay if you could right-click and choose "Ungroup". Sometimes I want quick access, sometimes I want the organization.
They bought those for the laptop docking stations at work after two laptops disappeared from the office.
Maybe, but that's way too complicated.
I don't think the concept of coming up with a pity story to get around stealing is complicated. It's as old as dirt. So my question still stands: How could the founding fathers _NOT_ see it coming when they gave Congress the right to borrow money on everyone else's credit?
People have a greater tendency to freak out when trying anything new, be it a psychological experience, sky diving, scuba diving, driving, motorcycling, snowboarding, bicycling, or anything which requires intense concentration.
There is no substitute for calm and experience.
First, to release a patch to a commercial application used by millions of people is inherently troublesome.
sed s/commercial//
apt-get seems to work just fine for me.
More "I wannabe your mentor" drivel.
P.S. Since I advocated the use LSD or shrooms, please note: Never, ever, ever, ever take it alone and if you have never taken it, take it with some one who has. If you don't follow those rules, you will have a bad time. Guaranteed.
Oh give me a break. You wannabes with your hand-holding advocacy should give it up already. You just want to have a better chance of someone involving you with their experience.
I think you're on crack.
.sig for many, many years and have yet to be contacted by any sysadmin, user, or other friend that it causes any problems.
Modems would not send NO CARRIER out to the remote end. Rather, the NO CARRIER that a BBS would record would be the report from it's own local modem indicating that it no longer had a signal from the remote end. Proof? Many of my friends and I ran BBSs and we all set our modems to V0--numeric error messages. Not once did our logs ever show "NO CARRIER". It was always 0 (OK), 2 (RING), or 3 (NO CARRIER). In the earliest days dropped carrier was a big problem because many modems were not equipped to detect a loss of carrier and would happily continue talking with an end which had hung up.
The same goes for the escape sequence. You could send your own modem into command mode but you cannot send a remote modem into command mode.
If you really feel strongly about your hoax then please point to some real citations. My friends and I have been using my style of
Typically I like to run against the government grain simply because I don't believe Big Brother is a good concept. Overhead always causes problems: greed, graft, bribes, special interests, unaccountability. Ask the Soviet Union about it. Ask Afghanistan about it. Ask Cuba about it. Heck, ask Saddam Hussein about it. I'm sure he'll gladly point out that any overhead power is a ripe field for exploitation.
So we have this ping-pong match of people who hold the government in dreamy-eyed awe and people who see only the ill uses of governmental power. Somewhere in between lies the truth. Sometimes Big Brother gets it right, sometimes Big Brother gets it for himself. The only real way to eliminate the problem is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. That's a fine and dandy solution but Big Brother writes too many paychecks, makes too many people feel warm fuzzy and comfortable, and keeps too many bankers and politicians living a very easy luxurious life.
As for prisoner abuse that's a touchy subject. I've heard that some of the fellows who were stacked up on each other were being disciplined for attempting to start an exercise yard riot. Some of the people who were blindfolded and threatened with dogs were guilty of assaulting prison guards or officials. Certainly there are some legitimate cases of abuse but, all in all, every society has it. The Taliban had it, it happens in Paris and Amsterdam, the British _definitely_ have some neat B&D equipment, and American civilian police are caught abusing and bullying citizens all the time.
There is the hypocrisy to address. Well, crap, that's just part of life. I don't like it anymore than anyone else. The US likes to strut around the world and point fingers and meddle in affairs and tell everyone else how to run their nations when, in all reality, the US gov't isn't doing such a hot, fair, honest, or kind job within its own borders. Once again it's the Big Brother syndrome. The only way to fix it is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. And, again, there are too many paychecks, too many leeches, too many bleeding hearts (who don't have what it takes to do something on their own but like to bleed with someone else's money), and too many comfortable and wealthy politicians, bankers, brokers, and attorneys.
So what of this "see through walls" technology? What if it is used by the local police someday to scan each and every house as they drive slowly down the block? Unless we can fix the Big Brother problem there's absolutely no sense in working yourself into a froth over the obligatory abuses that come from Big Brother.
Personally I'd like to get rid of Big Brother. I'm an advocate of small efficient government just like I'm an advocate of small efficient software. But just like Microsoft, Big Brother has a monopoly on the field and plenty of loyal (or at least contractually trapped) followers.
So they were for being against opposing patents. This is your brain on drugs
Agreed. If it weren't for the context my initial reading was to think that corporations had gotten the better of politics. Perhaps it should read: "the European Council of Ministers, to keep software patents out of Europe, voted in favor of throwing out the European Parliament's efforts".
The issue is the prepositional phrase "to keep software patents out of Europe". Is it serving as an adjective or an adverb? Does it modify "efforts", meaning the European Parliament had been striving to keep software patents out of Europe, or does it modify "voted", meaning the action of voting served to keep software patents out of Europe? The meaning of the prepositional phrase, in its published position, does not become apparent without the context around it.
What a bunch of complete, perfectionist, apologist drivel.
Overweight can be as bad as malnourished or even worse. Malnourished people work harder to get nourished. Overweight people just slop around like the world owes them the right to flatulate and get paid.
The parent said that two people have to work two support a lifestyle which was had by a single income here in the US. Why are you bringing in comparisons to other countries? Let's not broaden the argument.
The 9/11 thing was no more unexpected than the attack on Pearl Harbor. The US gov't knew that it's policy of self-righteousness was pissing off everyone from French farmers to Chinese monks and they kept doing it because they have small-penis syndrome. I love America and I hate what happened but, damnit, if you keep pushing people around eventually one of them is going to egg your house.
Spending billions on defense does not guarantee effectiveness and your proposition to throw up your hands in despair is not the proper alternative. We could probably end all the animosity if we would take the military budget and just flat out GIVE IT to the poor people in Muslim nations, install running water and electricity for them, and then LEAVE. It'd sure be cheaper and there'd be less violence involved. Too bad the US has a horrible reputation at trying to stick around to meddle with anything they ever want to help with as if helping someone gives a slaveowner's right over them.
You're delusional if you think we pay less in taxes than other industrialized nations. They pay more up front, we pay more in hidden fees. I have a spreadsheet where I keep track of my income taxes, my sales taxes, my liquor taxes, my gasoline taxes, the tax on my cable bill, my telephone bill, the fees for my car, the taxes that I pay in rent for my landlord's property taxes, registration for my vehicle, government tolls on the roads, etc. etc. etc. Last year it was 56.4%. This year, so far, it's at 58.3%.
If it's not the responsibility of the US to placate everyone why is it our responsibility to police them? Saddam Hussein wasn't on the verge of doing anything more than shooting his mouth off again. You don't like to listen to him? CHANGE THE CHANNEL! American citizens, driven mad by tax-induced poverty, commit more crime than any terrorists have ever added up. The difference is that one is a steady trickle and the other is a sudden event that makes news and feeds the reactionary ego.
Get off your high horse. The US government has been listening to you, or me, or anyone for that matter, for decades. They do what they want to do and all your flag waving just makes them feel proud. Maybe if you'd grow a pair and quit living vicariously through their bully tactics they'd start to grow a conscience.
if it wasn't so serious it would be actually funny
/.? Read the last line of the post.
Is there an echo in
As for how long the American people are willing to put up with it, consider this: at NO OTHER TIME IN HISTORY has currency been as liquid as it is today. Former empires fell apart because they couldn't get the wheels of the pyramid scheme turning fast enough. In today's world of electronic money moving transactions it's quite easy for the controlling top of the pyramid to quickly allocate funds to any segment below which begins to shake things up. Whether that be in disinformation to squelch reformers or in funding additional propaganda to spread the facade of perfection the fact remains that the money can be allocated at the drop of a hat.
So, the way I see it, the American people have no choice but to put up with it. We simply have no check and balance on the power which is running the pyramid.
I think you should expand the "Day" to "Month" or even "Day" to "Three Month" but, other than that...
Yep. Spot on. I've been on the short end of that stick twice.
Ok, so spying on, detaining, forcing, and stealing doesn't happen. Certainly not in a country that has shiny great rights.
Of course it happens. From my parent post: "At best the concept of rights serves as a deterrent to such violations but, should such a violation actually occur, recouping any sort of compensation requires police reports, proof, evidence, an attorney who gives a plaid rabid flying badger's patootle, and usually more time and hassle than it's worth. For the most part, if a person is targeted, the best thing they can do is pick up, move on, and hope to h-e-double-toothpicks that it doesn't happen again."
Then what in the hell is court all about?
Court is for poster children. From my parent post: "If an attorney happens on a case which is in the right place at the right time then a poster child will be made who rides the political and media wave."
Tell that to SCO/RIAA
From my parent post: "If the rights of a _large_ number of people are violated then the outcry is enough to draw significant attention and warrant the popularity contest of a public lawsuit."
In general I believe in the _concept_ of rights, but, from my parent post: "I have yet to see the concept of rights given justice on an individual basis."
I think Gentoo is a fine, upstanding, and decent distro as well.
I'm simply making sport of the "TRY GENTOO!" plugs that are becoming as common as popup ads for singles sites or debt reduction.
Yikes. Don't be so defensive. I've begun making sport out of the "Try Gentoo!" plugs that appear more often than the software salesmen in the media commercials--"So... how much software do you want to buy today?" "TRY GENTOO!"