Trust me, I turn on my PC. I don't really have a problem with any of my machines crashing: 1 red hat, 1 os x, one win xp pro, one freebsd. The mac did crash fairly often when it was on os 9, but since being upgraded it has only crashed a handful of times (now safari on the other hand). My windows box hasn't really had any problems since I got rid of windows 2000 and a horrible driver for a horrible USB modem.
I can say with out question that my iMac running OS X crashes more often than my PC running Win XP. But anecdotal evidence is really no evidence at all.
then don't buy the content. I don't object to people making DRM available, there are certain times when I'll admit it makes sense. I just don't want it on media I purchase. If we choose to not purchase said media, it will go away.
veryone should have? I think everyone should have firewire! Especially since sync'ing over USB 1.1 would take 3.5 lifetimes.
When I said everyone should have USB, I meant that almost all computers out there are equipped with at least USB. Sure all new computers should have firewire, but we all don't have a new computer.
So your car doesn't have a radio in it, huh?
If I was driving to work this would be a mute arguement, and I wouldn't even be carrying an MP3 player as my car also has a cd player and tape deck. I take public transportation to work though so having a radio on my portable player is a big deal to me.
I'm sorry, but that comment is just downright hilarious! WMA is a proprietary format owned by Microsoft. The stores you mention have SO MUCH LESS CLOUT than Apple to make deals with the record labels and don't have anything I can't get from iTMS. Not to mention the restrictive DRM. Any future store that uses WMA? Oh, there's a catch-all. Apple can make zippo on music and still make money on the iPods; the other stores you mention can't do that.
And the DRM on AAC bought from the iTMS is a proprietary format owned by apple. If it wasn't you'd see hundreds of other players supporting it.
Why does any other store have less clout than Apple? Places like best buy, dell, wal-mart are all much bigger corporations than apple is. Plus if Microsoft gets into the game, they will have much more clout.
If you look at the other stores I bet they all have something that you can't get at the others. But at least with a WMA player you have a choice of which store to shop at (or all of them), Apple only gives you the one choice.
All the stores also have DRM that is mostly equivalent. There are a few that are worse, but they are the exception not the rule and will quickly be weeded out.
Well napster is making money on napster branded music players. MusicMatch and BuyMusic.com are making money by licensing their music stores to others. I personally would rather buy a MP3 player that isn't being marked up enough to help pay for the music store. That's why if I where to purchase a HD player now I would pick the Rio Karma. The only downside to it is that there is no radio. I would also consider the nomad zen mx and the iHP-120. But non have the featureset I'm really looking for right now.
The iPod (new ones) support USB 2.0 anyway. I personally run Firewire on my home machine, but work only has built in USB 2.0 ports, so get the cable and it works a treat!
That does require an optional cable does it not? I'm no expert on the iPod (if I were to buy a player it would be a Rio Karma), but if one only had USB as an option; I wouldn't purchase something that had optional USB support.
What buy DRM tainted music files??? on slashdot? You aren't serious are you? Actually, I don't use iTunes Store (Being in Australia and all) and never will. The ability to play either WMA or Apples own fluff is pretty mute. MP3's are fine for the commute on the train.
I didn't say I buy them. I was just making a point. I think the idea of buying a digital file is kind of silly, I'd rather have the CD; but both WMA and AAC from music stores contain DRM. It all comes down to which store do you want to shop at, and the iPod only gives you one choice.
Just because the software supports DRM doesn't mean it has any affect on you. WMA 9 is just as capable of creating DRM free files as any other version of media player. It is also just as capable of playing open files as any other media player. The difference is that it can create DRM'd files if you want and it can play DRM'd files if you happen to come across them.
To me DRM isn't a big deal until I'm forced to use it. And I don't forsee a time when players are unable to play DRM free media.
No one is going to re-buy a song they already own in a inferior format. If they want to make millions selling the same content over again they're going to need to push SACD or DVD-A. The problem is that CD is good enough for most listeners, and old content doesn't gain that much from being put on one of the superior formats.
Actually, the spoilers started when a couple of people got access to the shooting script. Which came about while they were doing principal photography. This time it doesn't appear that anyone leaked the entire shooting script, but there are multiple people who have privy to parts of the script.
I think the real reason that spoilers are lighter this time is the fact that Lucas gave away so much with the HyperSpace service, greatly reducing the demand for spoilers.
2) Surround sound? Are you telling me you're setting up a surround system to a PORTABLE music player. Ha! And since when is surround sound important for MUSIC?
SRS surround sound will work through headphones, or when you hook it up to a stereo. It may not be a deal breaker, but it is a nice feature. I very often listen to music in surround sound on my stereo when I'm not doing critical listening.
3) USB2.0? Who frigging cares? Firewire kicks ass.
What if you don't have firewire? USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 1.1 which everyone should have. Given the choice I would prefer firewire myself, but if I were interested in syncing with multiple machines USB would be the way to go.
Built in radio? Um, with up to 40 gigs of music I LIKE on hand, I am NOT tuning to some commercial-laden mainstream swill music.
Not all radio is commercial. Say I'm on my way to work and want to flip over to NPR to hear the news. Or I want to hear an interview with a band I like on the greatest radio station in the world (KEXP). Just because you might not see the point of a feature doesn't mean it's not great for some people.
5) WMA support - irrelevant.
Not if you want to buy songs from any of the other music services besides iTunes. They all use WMA. So with the iRiver, I get a choice of music stores.
6) iPod is practically a PDA - storing your contacts, calendar, notes.
So, you can harp on features you think our dumb but then say a feature a lot of other people think is dumb is great? I have a PDA, so this is an unimportant feature. Why do I need another set of contacts (address book, PDA, phone). I'd much rather have a radio.
7) iPod plays songs from iTunes Music Store - iRiver does not.
iPod does not play music from buymusic.com, napster 2.0, musicmatch, or any of the future music stores that are going to use WMA. The iRiver can. So technically the iRiver gives you more choice in this regard.
1. I keep my music library in my hip pocket. No need to worry about damage from extreme temperatures or loss due to theft, resulting in the need to "take all of 15 minutes to burn the disc again".
So your ipod is somehow immune to dammage from extreme temperatures, theft, or the hard drive going out? I think it would take longer than 15 minutes to replace if anything went wrong.
2. Changing CD's while you drive is neither easy nor safe. I cue up long playlists before I start driving, and can ignore the controls for my entire trip.
I don't know about you, but 99% of my trips are less than the length of a CD. Not to mention that those that are longer include frequent stops for gas etc. And that's an audio CD. If I had a head unit that played MP3's burned on to a CD, I would never drive anywhere where I wouldn't need to stop before the CD ran out.
3. 10 GB may seem like overkill to somebody who's married to the idea of using disks, but once you have it you will wonder how you ever tollerated less.
To me having any more information than the thing can play on one charge is pointless. If I have to recharge the damn thing, I may as well put new music on it. The onl advantage to have more space to me would be if the player supported FLAC so I wouldn't have to re-encode my music before transfering it to a portable device.
Hmmm... i can't say that I would never use 20 gigs. But that is enough for 40+ albums recorded in FLAC. If the thing holds more data then it can play on one charge (which I would assume 40 albums would be), it has more space then I would ever need.
The DC sniper? Henry Lee Lucas? But that's really a stupid arguement. Your chances of getting killed by a serial killer are probably pretty low compared to other kinds of murder.
Well it comes down to the fact that the studio isn't giving the people what they want at a price they feel is fair. Adding bonus material is one way to do that, as you show with the LOTR extended DVD. Apparantly the stop gap DVD doesn't have that value. So what the studio should do is cut the price on the first DVD.
Perhaps something similar can be done with records? Have a minimal version available for downloading at low cost or purchasing on media at low cost, and a bonus edition with extra material at a fair cost?
I think a lot of the problem has to do with the ego's involved in the music industry. Think for example of two different executives. Both sign 10 artists. The first invests $1,000,000 in each but has 9 flops and one mega star who earns the label $11,000,000. The second executive invests almost zero in his artists (they record their records independently). Each of his artists makes the label $120,000. The second exectuive actually made the company more money, but he may not be seen as a big of success because he didn't develop a mega star.
true there are those people. And those are the kind of people who aren't going to buy anything unless it's free. trying to keep everyone from stealing is a pointless endevour.
Yes, as 1000's of indie rock albums will attest to. But marketing, and buying the bling-bling that rappers need, and various other costs are necessary to have a mega-star. Very rarely do self made indie musicians have an album that makes the record companies 10's of millions of dollars. The problem is that most executives would rather loose a million dollars 9x on artists who fail and make 10 million on one successful artist than make $100,000 on ten artists who have marginal success.
Because their is so much more to music than making it. By your definition Wilco is a group of looser musicians who are dragging the ship down and Britney Spears is what everyone should aspire to be. Not all of us think this way.
Sure it can be ripped. But who wants to download a 60 minute movie. Just because something can be stolen doesn't mean that it will be. If a majority of people think that the value of the product meets or exceeds it's price they won't steal it.
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Trust me, I turn on my PC. I don't really have a problem with any of my machines crashing: 1 red hat, 1 os x, one win xp pro, one freebsd. The mac did crash fairly often when it was on os 9, but since being upgraded it has only crashed a handful of times (now safari on the other hand). My windows box hasn't really had any problems since I got rid of windows 2000 and a horrible driver for a horrible USB modem.
I can say with out question that my iMac running OS X crashes more often than my PC running Win XP. But anecdotal evidence is really no evidence at all.
then don't buy the content. I don't object to people making DRM available, there are certain times when I'll admit it makes sense. I just don't want it on media I purchase. If we choose to not purchase said media, it will go away.
veryone should have? I think everyone should have firewire! Especially since sync'ing over USB 1.1 would take 3.5 lifetimes.
When I said everyone should have USB, I meant that almost all computers out there are equipped with at least USB. Sure all new computers should have firewire, but we all don't have a new computer.
So your car doesn't have a radio in it, huh? If I was driving to work this would be a mute arguement, and I wouldn't even be carrying an MP3 player as my car also has a cd player and tape deck. I take public transportation to work though so having a radio on my portable player is a big deal to me.
I'm sorry, but that comment is just downright hilarious! WMA is a proprietary format owned by Microsoft. The stores you mention have SO MUCH LESS CLOUT than Apple to make deals with the record labels and don't have anything I can't get from iTMS. Not to mention the restrictive DRM. Any future store that uses WMA? Oh, there's a catch-all. Apple can make zippo on music and still make money on the iPods; the other stores you mention can't do that.
And the DRM on AAC bought from the iTMS is a proprietary format owned by apple. If it wasn't you'd see hundreds of other players supporting it.
Why does any other store have less clout than Apple? Places like best buy, dell, wal-mart are all much bigger corporations than apple is. Plus if Microsoft gets into the game, they will have much more clout.
If you look at the other stores I bet they all have something that you can't get at the others. But at least with a WMA player you have a choice of which store to shop at (or all of them), Apple only gives you the one choice.
All the stores also have DRM that is mostly equivalent. There are a few that are worse, but they are the exception not the rule and will quickly be weeded out.
Well napster is making money on napster branded music players. MusicMatch and BuyMusic.com are making money by licensing their music stores to others. I personally would rather buy a MP3 player that isn't being marked up enough to help pay for the music store. That's why if I where to purchase a HD player now I would pick the Rio Karma. The only downside to it is that there is no radio. I would also consider the nomad zen mx and the iHP-120. But non have the featureset I'm really looking for right now.
The iPod (new ones) support USB 2.0 anyway. I personally run Firewire on my home machine, but work only has built in USB 2.0 ports, so get the cable and it works a treat!
That does require an optional cable does it not? I'm no expert on the iPod (if I were to buy a player it would be a Rio Karma), but if one only had USB as an option; I wouldn't purchase something that had optional USB support.
What buy DRM tainted music files??? on slashdot? You aren't serious are you? Actually, I don't use iTunes Store (Being in Australia and all) and never will. The ability to play either WMA or Apples own fluff is pretty mute. MP3's are fine for the commute on the train.
I didn't say I buy them. I was just making a point. I think the idea of buying a digital file is kind of silly, I'd rather have the CD; but both WMA and AAC from music stores contain DRM. It all comes down to which store do you want to shop at, and the iPod only gives you one choice.
Just because the software supports DRM doesn't mean it has any affect on you. WMA 9 is just as capable of creating DRM free files as any other version of media player. It is also just as capable of playing open files as any other media player. The difference is that it can create DRM'd files if you want and it can play DRM'd files if you happen to come across them.
To me DRM isn't a big deal until I'm forced to use it. And I don't forsee a time when players are unable to play DRM free media.
Who doesn't hate Michael Eisner? I thought pretty much everyone hated him.
Although most flash players have removable media, which can be replaced when it wears out.
No one is going to re-buy a song they already own in a inferior format. If they want to make millions selling the same content over again they're going to need to push SACD or DVD-A. The problem is that CD is good enough for most listeners, and old content doesn't gain that much from being put on one of the superior formats.
Actually, the spoilers started when a couple of people got access to the shooting script. Which came about while they were doing principal photography. This time it doesn't appear that anyone leaked the entire shooting script, but there are multiple people who have privy to parts of the script.
I think the real reason that spoilers are lighter this time is the fact that Lucas gave away so much with the HyperSpace service, greatly reducing the demand for spoilers.
2) Surround sound? Are you telling me you're setting up a surround system to a PORTABLE music player. Ha! And since when is surround sound important for MUSIC?
SRS surround sound will work through headphones, or when you hook it up to a stereo. It may not be a deal breaker, but it is a nice feature. I very often listen to music in surround sound on my stereo when I'm not doing critical listening.
3) USB2.0? Who frigging cares? Firewire kicks ass.
What if you don't have firewire? USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 1.1 which everyone should have. Given the choice I would prefer firewire myself, but if I were interested in syncing with multiple machines USB would be the way to go.
Built in radio? Um, with up to 40 gigs of music I LIKE on hand, I am NOT tuning to some commercial-laden mainstream swill music.
Not all radio is commercial. Say I'm on my way to work and want to flip over to NPR to hear the news. Or I want to hear an interview with a band I like on the greatest radio station in the world (KEXP). Just because you might not see the point of a feature doesn't mean it's not great for some people.
5) WMA support - irrelevant.
Not if you want to buy songs from any of the other music services besides iTunes. They all use WMA. So with the iRiver, I get a choice of music stores.
6) iPod is practically a PDA - storing your contacts, calendar, notes.
So, you can harp on features you think our dumb but then say a feature a lot of other people think is dumb is great? I have a PDA, so this is an unimportant feature. Why do I need another set of contacts (address book, PDA, phone). I'd much rather have a radio.
7) iPod plays songs from iTunes Music Store - iRiver does not.
iPod does not play music from buymusic.com, napster 2.0, musicmatch, or any of the future music stores that are going to use WMA. The iRiver can. So technically the iRiver gives you more choice in this regard.
Has Pepsi actually confirmed this, or is this just like the McDonald's rumor.
1. I keep my music library in my hip pocket. No need to worry about damage from extreme temperatures or loss due to theft, resulting in the need to "take all of 15 minutes to burn the disc again".
So your ipod is somehow immune to dammage from extreme temperatures, theft, or the hard drive going out? I think it would take longer than 15 minutes to replace if anything went wrong.
2. Changing CD's while you drive is neither easy nor safe. I cue up long playlists before I start driving, and can ignore the controls for my entire trip.
I don't know about you, but 99% of my trips are less than the length of a CD. Not to mention that those that are longer include frequent stops for gas etc. And that's an audio CD. If I had a head unit that played MP3's burned on to a CD, I would never drive anywhere where I wouldn't need to stop before the CD ran out.
3. 10 GB may seem like overkill to somebody who's married to the idea of using disks, but once you have it you will wonder how you ever tollerated less.
To me having any more information than the thing can play on one charge is pointless. If I have to recharge the damn thing, I may as well put new music on it. The onl advantage to have more space to me would be if the player supported FLAC so I wouldn't have to re-encode my music before transfering it to a portable device.
Hmmm... i can't say that I would never use 20 gigs. But that is enough for 40+ albums recorded in FLAC. If the thing holds more data then it can play on one charge (which I would assume 40 albums would be), it has more space then I would ever need.
Nahh... they're spot on. We knew everything that was going to happen in AOTC in advance. Sometimes 2 years in advance.
How many serial killers use guns?
The DC sniper? Henry Lee Lucas? But that's really a stupid arguement. Your chances of getting killed by a serial killer are probably pretty low compared to other kinds of murder.
Well it comes down to the fact that the studio isn't giving the people what they want at a price they feel is fair. Adding bonus material is one way to do that, as you show with the LOTR extended DVD. Apparantly the stop gap DVD doesn't have that value. So what the studio should do is cut the price on the first DVD.
Perhaps something similar can be done with records? Have a minimal version available for downloading at low cost or purchasing on media at low cost, and a bonus edition with extra material at a fair cost?
I think a lot of the problem has to do with the ego's involved in the music industry. Think for example of two different executives. Both sign 10 artists. The first invests $1,000,000 in each but has 9 flops and one mega star who earns the label $11,000,000. The second executive invests almost zero in his artists (they record their records independently). Each of his artists makes the label $120,000. The second exectuive actually made the company more money, but he may not be seen as a big of success because he didn't develop a mega star.
It is possible to do both. You can make a living on your music and still make quality music without business intervention.
true there are those people. And those are the kind of people who aren't going to buy anything unless it's free. trying to keep everyone from stealing is a pointless endevour.
that would be better. But i really wish I could just listen to the whole damn thing. Why not make is stream in FM quality?
And that is? What does the iTMS have that I can not get on CD?
Yes, as 1000's of indie rock albums will attest to. But marketing, and buying the bling-bling that rappers need, and various other costs are necessary to have a mega-star. Very rarely do self made indie musicians have an album that makes the record companies 10's of millions of dollars. The problem is that most executives would rather loose a million dollars 9x on artists who fail and make 10 million on one successful artist than make $100,000 on ten artists who have marginal success.
Because their is so much more to music than making it. By your definition Wilco is a group of looser musicians who are dragging the ship down and Britney Spears is what everyone should aspire to be. Not all of us think this way.
Sure it can be ripped. But who wants to download a 60 minute movie. Just because something can be stolen doesn't mean that it will be. If a majority of people think that the value of the product meets or exceeds it's price they won't steal it.