Just think of all of the plastic as a way to store petroleum resources for your grandchildren. Some day people will be mining landfills for plastic to recycle! Just imagine it....
"Hey Jim! We hit the motherload, there's diapers from here all the way through! We're RICH!! RICH!!"
So why don't you just explain it to them? If they are old enough to see Porn and have any desire to try it out then they are obviously old enough to have it explained to them and the risks and rewards laid out in front of them. Once that is done then you don't have anything to worry about, do you? Your kid understands everything involved and is less likely to be taken advantage of.
Don't worry folks, I run interferance for shit like this. So whenever I'm in the room you can rest assured that I will be the main focus for all government scrutiny with my constant comments on my the progress of my 'Incindiary Projectile Project' and my vacation plans to DC this summer. Not to mention my 'Bush is such a fucking asshole someone should really off him to make room for an intellignent administration' speech and my 'Y'know, I can see why people would want to fly planes into a bunch of buildings in the US, we're all assholes!' speech. So don't worry! Despite the fact that I don't actually have any bomb making equipment, and don't give a flying fuck about Bush, and think that the people who crashed those planes should all burn in hell for eternity, the government agents should hopefully be too busy creaming their jeans over the new 'Terrorist Axis of Evil' they've found in my apartment to bother the rest of you about whether you're smoking a joint or a cigarette. >:) I also make misleading comments on my phone, and in my e-mails. And I'm pretty sure this slashdot post will be archived and editted to take out all of the non-incriminating stuff so they can use it against me some day!
Considering that there is already a childrens section of the library, it seems like this would be a logical solution. RWE: Athens Regional Library has a childrens network setup in the kids section of the library. You can access all KINDS of information, Encyclopedias, Dictionaries, general information on lots of things, including Anatomy, but only in a text book kind of way. They created this so that kids could get access to most of the information they needed without their parents having to worry that they would come up on hardcore porn while trying to do their biology report. If they can't find what they need there, then the parent can take them over to the un-blocked systems and look it up for them. I think this is a nice compromise and it seems to work very well.
I think the problem is the perception that is passed on by these films that is harmful, not necessarily the literal content. It teaches impressionable children that women (and I guess men, in some cases) are little more than recepticals for pleasure, whose feelings and emotions are non-existent. Without a responsible parent to tell them otherwise (and believe me, there are plenty of irresponsible parents out there who won't engage their children in this kind of discussion) they may learn everything they know about sex from raw, emotionless videos.
I admit to haveing viewed a substantial amount of pornography. With that in mind, all of the pornography I have viewed with very few exceptions has given the impression that everyone involved was having a good time. It made Sex seem like an enjoyable activity between 2 (or frequently more) adults. I realize that there is pornography in which this is not the case, but it seems that mutually enjoyed sex is the theme behind the majority of pornography. So are you afraid that your child will learn that sex is an enjoyable activity?
Then you have to start defining 'Natural'. If you define Natural as not-involving humans, then you've gone and labeled humans to be unnatural. I think that's bullshit. Humans are as natural as every other product of the universe. Our effect on the planet in the long run will be 0. We have no reason to worry about harming the earth, we have every reason to worry about fucking it up so much that we can't live on it anymore. Our only concern should be our ability to continue living in relative comfort here until we can spread out.
And lastly, the fact of the matter is, $250k of assets (the guideline used by the people who conducted this study) is not rich. I stand by my assertion that it's not even middle class.
This I agree with. My in-laws have WAY over 250K worth of assets, but they are in CC debt up to their ears...
And wow, even after all of those species got wiped out, the ecosystem hasn't collapsed! Either the species were redundant or they served no useful purpose. So who fucking cares if they went extinct? Humans are a natural part of existence, just like everything else. There's not such thing as an unnatural object. So what if something is man-made? Spidersilk is spider made, it doesn't occure anywhere else, so does that make it unnatural? No. If we want to start cloning extinct animals and reintroducing them, fine, but admit that we're doing it for our own amusement, so stroke our egos, or to assuage some phantom guilt. It's not necessary, it's not going to mysticly make the animal more able to survive in a world dominated by humans.
I agree with you that not every animal should be brought back... However, the thylacine is only extinct because of massive over-hunting by humans... Without human involvement, they would still be alive.
And without GIANT METEOR involvement the dinosaurs would still be alive, too fucking bad. Species go extinct all the time, it's not a big deal. These little buggers apparently didn't occupy any critical niche in the ecosystem since the system hasn't collapsed without them. There is no reason to bring them back for any reason other than study.
Then their motive isn't to make money is it? It's to invent stuff. If they want to make money they should find a partner who will market and produce their inventions. Not try to sell them off to corps for a quick buck.
This is not about whether they should spend it, it's about whether they WOULD spend it. Wealthy people buy things like Yachts, million dollar mansions, and villa's in the Alps all the time. Tell me those aren't frivilous purchases? They certainly aren't investments! Wealthy people aren't living in 1 bedroom apartments eatting pasta and drinking kool-aid. They OBVIOUSLY are buying things that are frivolous. So why not a spaceship ride?
Of course I'm an imbecile. We all are. >:) But I've seen it spelled both ways from semi-reputable sources, so I tend to use both. As for inventing and making money, your grandfather made the cardinal mistake, he tried to get rich quick by selling the invention to someone else instead of making it himself. If you invent something, you should then begin to produce it, or go to some bankers and get a loan to start a company which produces it. You don't go showing it to people who can then copy it and use it. You DO IT YOURSELF.
Umm, you completely misconstrued the entire premise of the survey. The people surveyed had 500K that they could spend. That's after taxes, etc... They also supposedly still have the income source from which they originally derived that 500k. So it's not like their lifetime networth is 500K and it's slowly bleeding out of them.
Flame away... I'm expecting a karma hit. But I'll keep writing those software patents and suing the theives (yes -- THEIVES) who infringe them anyway.
No! Not 'THEIVES' you imbecile, Thieves! And the lack of IP laws didn't stop Leonardo De'Vinci from inventing a whole SHITLOAD of stuff, nor did it stop anyone before him. If you do something first and you do it best, you'll make money off of it, regardless of whether someone else copies it later. So quit bitching.
Looked more like a midget Jet Li doing some badass wirework to me.... I found the CGI in ep II to be very unobtrusive. More on par with people in REALLY good costumes than digital constructs. Yoda looked just like he always looked, and his whole whirling dervish fighting style seemd appropriate.
As a former telemarketer I can tell you that the highlight of my night was usually when someone did something like the above poster described. Anything witty, funny, or interesting was a great break from the normal routine of calls. And we get paid pretty reasonably in addition to our comission. So don't feel about about making our night more interesting.
Kintanon P.S. My favorite phone call is still the one where I called up and asked for some girl, and the guy who answered the phone responds with, 'She's busy sucking my dick right now.'
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They first claimed we were. And they would send us our modem etc... Then we called back when we didn't recieve it and they said we weren't elligible. This was after they had already gotten all of our information.
I thought the corny puns between C3PO and R2D2 were great. Lent some silliness to an otherwise highly dramatic scene, but not stupid silliness. It sets the stage for their relationship in the later movies.
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This happened to me too! I thought it was just a fluke. We tried to sign up for Earthlink DSL and were told that we weren't elligible due to location. So we signed up with Bellsouth instead. A few months later we start seeing charges for Earthlink DSL on our account. Took us 2 months to get it cleared up but we DID get them to refund every penny they charged us since I was able to prove that they had never even sent us a DSL modem or anything.
Why does everyone keep assuming that if you just pile enough money in front of a corporation you will automaticly own them? No one can force the company to sell to MSFT. And the current BoD are quite happy with their current exorbitant profits. They have no reason to sellout to MSFT. Especially when they can just buddy up to Sony and have a platform for their games for the forseeable future.
I think the vibrating device solution is already perfectly viable. Theatres just need to make it clear that anyone causing a disturbance WILL be removed. Me and my wife had to have a couple of parents with a small crying child kicked out of Spiderman because they refused to either shut the kid up or take it outside voluntarily. But the theatre management was very nice about it.
So, you're telling me you would be annoyed if the persons vibrating pager/cellphone went off and they left the theatre to answer it, but it would be A-OK if some girl came into the theatre and wandered around looking for some specific person in the dark to tell them they had a phone call so they could then get up and go answer it? I'm confused...
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Just think of all of the plastic as a way to store petroleum resources for your grandchildren. Some day people will be mining landfills for plastic to recycle! Just imagine it....
"Hey Jim! We hit the motherload, there's diapers from here all the way through! We're RICH!! RICH!!"
Kintanon
So why don't you just explain it to them? If they are old enough to see Porn and have any desire to try it out then they are obviously old enough to have it explained to them and the risks and rewards laid out in front of them. Once that is done then you don't have anything to worry about, do you? Your kid understands everything involved and is less likely to be taken advantage of.
Kintanon
Don't worry folks, I run interferance for shit like this. So whenever I'm in the room you can rest assured that I will be the main focus for all government scrutiny with my constant comments on my the progress of my 'Incindiary Projectile Project' and my vacation plans to DC this summer. Not to mention my 'Bush is such a fucking asshole someone should really off him to make room for an intellignent administration' speech and my 'Y'know, I can see why people would want to fly planes into a bunch of buildings in the US, we're all assholes!' speech. So don't worry! Despite the fact that I don't actually have any bomb making equipment, and don't give a flying fuck about Bush, and think that the people who crashed those planes should all burn in hell for eternity, the government agents should hopefully be too busy creaming their jeans over the new 'Terrorist Axis of Evil' they've found in my apartment to bother the rest of you about whether you're smoking a joint or a cigarette. >:) I also make misleading comments on my phone, and in my e-mails. And I'm pretty sure this slashdot post will be archived and editted to take out all of the non-incriminating stuff so they can use it against me some day!
Cheers!
Kintanon
Considering that there is already a childrens section of the library, it seems like this would be a logical solution. RWE: Athens Regional Library has a childrens network setup in the kids section of the library. You can access all KINDS of information, Encyclopedias, Dictionaries, general information on lots of things, including Anatomy, but only in a text book kind of way. They created this so that kids could get access to most of the information they needed without their parents having to worry that they would come up on hardcore porn while trying to do their biology report. If they can't find what they need there, then the parent can take them over to the un-blocked systems and look it up for them. I think this is a nice compromise and it seems to work very well.
Kintanon
I think the problem is the perception that is passed on by these films that is harmful, not necessarily the literal content. It teaches impressionable children that women (and I guess men, in some cases) are little more than recepticals for pleasure, whose feelings and emotions are non-existent. Without a responsible parent to tell them otherwise (and believe me, there are plenty of irresponsible parents out there who won't engage their children in this kind of discussion) they may learn everything they know about sex from raw, emotionless videos.
I admit to haveing viewed a substantial amount of pornography. With that in mind, all of the pornography I have viewed with very few exceptions has given the impression that everyone involved was having a good time. It made Sex seem like an enjoyable activity between 2 (or frequently more) adults. I realize that there is pornography in which this is not the case, but it seems that mutually enjoyed sex is the theme behind the majority of pornography. So are you afraid that your child will learn that sex is an enjoyable activity?
Kintanon
Then you have to start defining 'Natural'. If you define Natural as not-involving humans, then you've gone and labeled humans to be unnatural. I think that's bullshit. Humans are as natural as every other product of the universe. Our effect on the planet in the long run will be 0. We have no reason to worry about harming the earth, we have every reason to worry about fucking it up so much that we can't live on it anymore. Our only concern should be our ability to continue living in relative comfort here until we can spread out.
Kintanon
And lastly, the fact of the matter is, $250k of assets (the guideline used by the people who conducted this study) is not rich. I stand by my assertion that it's not even middle class.
This I agree with. My in-laws have WAY over 250K worth of assets, but they are in CC debt up to their ears...
Kintanon
And wow, even after all of those species got wiped out, the ecosystem hasn't collapsed! Either the species were redundant or they served no useful purpose. So who fucking cares if they went extinct? Humans are a natural part of existence, just like everything else. There's not such thing as an unnatural object. So what if something is man-made? Spidersilk is spider made, it doesn't occure anywhere else, so does that make it unnatural? No. If we want to start cloning extinct animals and reintroducing them, fine, but admit that we're doing it for our own amusement, so stroke our egos, or to assuage some phantom guilt. It's not necessary, it's not going to mysticly make the animal more able to survive in a world dominated by humans.
Kintanon
I agree with you that not every animal should be brought back... However, the thylacine is only extinct because of massive over-hunting by humans... Without human involvement, they would still be alive.
And without GIANT METEOR involvement the dinosaurs would still be alive, too fucking bad. Species go extinct all the time, it's not a big deal. These little buggers apparently didn't occupy any critical niche in the ecosystem since the system hasn't collapsed without them. There is no reason to bring them back for any reason other than study.
Kintanon
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Then their motive isn't to make money is it? It's to invent stuff. If they want to make money they should find a partner who will market and produce their inventions. Not try to sell them off to corps for a quick buck.
Kintanon
This is not about whether they should spend it, it's about whether they WOULD spend it. Wealthy people buy things like Yachts, million dollar mansions, and villa's in the Alps all the time. Tell me those aren't frivilous purchases? They certainly aren't investments! Wealthy people aren't living in 1 bedroom apartments eatting pasta and drinking kool-aid. They OBVIOUSLY are buying things that are frivolous. So why not a spaceship ride?
Kintanon
Of course I'm an imbecile. We all are. >:) But I've seen it spelled both ways from semi-reputable sources, so I tend to use both.
As for inventing and making money, your grandfather made the cardinal mistake, he tried to get rich quick by selling the invention to someone else instead of making it himself. If you invent something, you should then begin to produce it, or go to some bankers and get a loan to start a company which produces it. You don't go showing it to people who can then copy it and use it. You DO IT YOURSELF.
Kintanon
Umm, you completely misconstrued the entire premise of the survey. The people surveyed had 500K that they could spend. That's after taxes, etc... They also supposedly still have the income source from which they originally derived that 500k. So it's not like their lifetime networth is 500K and it's slowly bleeding out of them.
Yeesh.
Kintanon
Flame away ... I'm expecting a karma hit. But I'll keep writing those software patents and suing the theives (yes -- THEIVES) who infringe them anyway.
No! Not 'THEIVES' you imbecile, Thieves! And the lack of IP laws didn't stop Leonardo De'Vinci from inventing a whole SHITLOAD of stuff, nor did it stop anyone before him. If you do something first and you do it best, you'll make money off of it, regardless of whether someone else copies it later. So quit bitching.
Kintanon
Hmmm... So I should get rid of my 'Network God' business cards? Man! And I really liked the seraphim and trumpets I got with them...
Kintanon
They have good relations with Sierra right now. Sierra has a couple of games coming out for the Xbox, but as far as I know nothing earthshattering.
Kintanon
Looked more like a midget Jet Li doing some badass wirework to me.... I found the CGI in ep II to be very unobtrusive. More on par with people in REALLY good costumes than digital constructs. Yoda looked just like he always looked, and his whole whirling dervish fighting style seemd appropriate.
Kintanon
As a former telemarketer I can tell you that the highlight of my night was usually when someone did something like the above poster described. Anything witty, funny, or interesting was a great break from the normal routine of calls. And we get paid pretty reasonably in addition to our comission. So don't feel about about making our night more interesting.
Kintanon
P.S. My favorite phone call is still the one where I called up and asked for some girl, and the guy who answered the phone responds with, 'She's busy sucking my dick right now.'
They first claimed we were. And they would send us our modem etc... Then we called back when we didn't recieve it and they said we weren't elligible. This was after they had already gotten all of our information.
Kintanon
I thought the corny puns between C3PO and R2D2 were great. Lent some silliness to an otherwise highly dramatic scene, but not stupid silliness. It sets the stage for their relationship in the later movies.
Kintanon
This happened to me too! I thought it was just a fluke. We tried to sign up for Earthlink DSL and were told that we weren't elligible due to location. So we signed up with Bellsouth instead. A few months later we start seeing charges for Earthlink DSL on our account. Took us 2 months to get it cleared up but we DID get them to refund every penny they charged us since I was able to prove that they had never even sent us a DSL modem or anything.
Kintanon
Why does everyone keep assuming that if you just pile enough money in front of a corporation you will automaticly own them? No one can force the company to sell to MSFT. And the current BoD are quite happy with their current exorbitant profits. They have no reason to sellout to MSFT. Especially when they can just buddy up to Sony and have a platform for their games for the forseeable future.
Kintanon
I think the vibrating device solution is already perfectly viable. Theatres just need to make it clear that anyone causing a disturbance WILL be removed. Me and my wife had to have a couple of parents with a small crying child kicked out of Spiderman because they refused to either shut the kid up or take it outside voluntarily. But the theatre management was very nice about it.
Kintanon
So, you're telling me you would be annoyed if the persons vibrating pager/cellphone went off and they left the theatre to answer it, but it would be A-OK if some girl came into the theatre and wandered around looking for some specific person in the dark to tell them they had a phone call so they could then get up and go answer it?
I'm confused...
Kintanon