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Slashback tonight with more on deep linking, wireless access during Spider-Man, abusing terrycloth, Linux on the mainframe and more. Read on below to find the details. Update: 05/15 15:00 GMT by T : (Note the two updates below re: Towel Day, Observed.)

They're also good for drying off after bathing. Snitty writes "Douglas Adams passed away a little over a year ago now, and as tradition will soon dictate the first Thursday after May 11th every year is International Towel Day. This happens to be this Thursday, so make sure you all show up to the 12:01 am showing of Attack of the Clones with your favorite lightsaber and a towel. Always know where your towel is."

Update: 05/15 00:11 GMT by T : Hmmm -- this seems to clash with a link another reader submitted, which suggests "the last Friday of every May," which this year would be the 31st.

Update: 05/15 15:00 GMT by T : D Clyde Williamson writes: "Towel Day (since I'm the guy who started it) is on May 25th every year." So ... it's not a portable feast?

Three guesses where they each get that money from. mblase writes "CNet, among others, informed its readers that Macromedia successfully countersued Adobe for patent infringement to the tune of $4.9 million, almost double the $2.8 million Adobe recently won from Macromedia. The article notes Macromedia has another patent suit against Adobe going to court in June 2003."

Listening material when Prairie Home Companion is over. Ender, Duke_of_URL writes "The second portion of Rep. Boucher's interview is up (MP3). This has been discussed previously on Slashdot."

They're also opposed to front doors. dringess writes "Wired has yet another article about deep linking. This one has some fun lawyer rebuttals. I guess I am deep linking right now!"

I especially like this quote: "... but this would set a terrible precedent implying that links have to have a certain amount of ads."

Keeps popcorn out of your keyboard, at least. smashed writes: "After being slashdotted and geekaustin'd and touted for being the first theater with wireless access .... I went to see Spider-Man tonight at the Alamo Drafthouse North in Austin. Apparently you can't have 'electronic devices on' during the feature. I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"

Wouldn't you like a mainframe in the closet? Writing in regards to this posting on Linux on mainframes, rudy writes: "Your reference was to the first one in the series, the second one has been up for about a week and the third, and last, one in the series will go on late this week or early next."

307 comments

  1. In the immortal words of Towelie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't forget to bring a towel!

    ...you wanna get high?

  2. Deep linking? by flewp · · Score: 0, Troll

    Deep linking? DEEP LINKING?! What about Deep Hurting?!

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    1. Re:Deep linking? by Qrlx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      sandstorm....SANDSTORM!!!!

  3. Wireless devices during a movie by jimmcq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on.

    Personally I'd be pretty pissed if the person next to me had their laptop/PDA on during the movie. The bright screen would be very annoying in a dark theatre, and the tapping of stylus or keys would drive me mad.

    1. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if they geeks laptop beeped even once when turning off, I'd get up and proceed to pummel his face.

      Got to keep up with the spirit of the action movie genre.

    2. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by VEGx · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think POPCORN should be banned from theaters. Mind me, but I can't make half as much noise using my keyboards (except maybe if I slam it against someone's head) as the popcorn eating monsters around me!!!

    3. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by qqtortqq · · Score: 1

      I used to code at a club, it was the only place where I could have 100% concentration and a clear vision. I found that if I turned the screen all the way down, I could easily see it due to the darkness, but it wasn't bright enough to bother anyone else. No one could hear the keyboard due to the music, obviously, so I think that might be the only problem with using a laptop in a movie theatre (during the quiet parts of the movie), but a stylus tapping on a PDA screen is almost silent.

    4. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, yeah, but why bill it as a "cyber theater" if you can't use electronic devices?

    5. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by wik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here at CMU, we have dollar movies 4 times a week in a theater with good sound. We also have a wireless network throughout campus. In the past, I have been guilty of bringing my laptop to movies so I can code while waiting in line (shouldn't I be talking with friends? Maybe). I haven't done this in a long time, however.

      I saw a number of other people with laptops and I found it incredibly distracting -- even before the movie, when the lights are on. When the lights are out, it's even worse. It's not like a cell phone that runs four times before someone finally shuts it off. If you sit behind it, you can't help but glance at the glowing screen. It doesn't matter whether you're in the row just behind the person, or twenty rows back, it's still annoying.

      I'd also say similar things about people who bring their laptops to class and browse the web without listening, while in the front row, but I'm rambling now. :) In short, be polite. If you don't want to watch the movie or participate in class, go to sleep or go away. Don't distract the rest of us who care.

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    6. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by hank · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Would you, as a slashdot-reading-type, be more likely to go to a "theater" or a theater advertised as "the first cyber-theater?"

      Most people love going to the movies, and just adding "cyber-" or any other buzzword in front of it makes it that much more appealing to most people, let alone all those geeks in the Austin area.

    7. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by generic-man · · Score: 1

      I saw a number of other people with laptops and I found it incredibly distracting -- even before the movie, when the lights are on. When the lights are out, it's even worse. It's not like a cell phone that runs four times before someone finally shuts it off. If you sit behind it, you can't help but glance at the glowing screen. It doesn't matter whether you're in the row just behind the person, or twenty rows back, it's still annoying.

      But when the lights go out, the laptops go off. The only time I've seen laptops in use in McConomy is during presentations where the lights are on: the Shamos/Touretzsky IP-Law debate, the Wozniak presentation, Building Virtual Worlds, etc.

      During movies, when the lights go off, some 29-year-old undergrad will inevitably shout "TURN OFF THE DAMN LAPTOP!" That always works.

      As far as class goes, it's true that laptops and PDAs are completely counterproductive. Of course, I'm one to talk. I once watched an entire Simpsons episode in 15-211 lecture. ;)

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    8. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      I agree 100%. If you're so friggen busy that you can't shut off your laptop, PDA, cell-phon etc for the 2 hours it would take to watch a friggen movie, then you shouldn't be at the theater. Some of us actualy like to enjoy our lesure time as such.

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    9. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      As far as class goes, it's true that laptops and PDAs are completely counterproductive. Of course, I'm one to talk. I once watched an entire Simpsons episode in 15-211 lecture. ;)

      You are easily the l337357 man alive.....

    10. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by cscx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you kidding me? Movie popcorn is the best! That's cause they make it with coconut oil, which unlike some other oils is a saturated fat and usually comes as a solid. Mmm mmm good. It could kill a small animal if you gave it enough!

    11. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by brilliant-mistake · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Leave the computer behind for two hours and just watch the movie. And at the Alamo you can drink beer while you watch the movie. Isn't that better than playing with your computer?

    12. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      Yeah, if you think the liquid they put on your popcorn is "butter", you're sadly mistaken. That liquid has no relation to any dairy product ever created.

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    13. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Uuuuhh, I'm not sure on how certain you are of the concept, but having a laptop at a geek affair marks you as "one of the chosen". If you don't have a laptop and are not ostentatiously using it within plain sight of everyone, how is anyone to know that you are a dangerous hacker coder? One might as well just show up to an art opening wearing jeans and an A-shirt for all the distinction it gets you.

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    14. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Grab · · Score: 2

      The irritation of that is pretty minimal compared to some asshole with "Windows sounds" turned on. If you think a phone going off during a film is annoying, imagine hearing "You got mail" all the damn film.

      Grab.

    15. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But those bright screens would make a dandy illuminated target for popcorn, jujube's, and other small edible projectiles. I doubt they would surf much after a partly chewed jujube bounced off the screen and landed on the keyboard.

    16. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by ethereal · · Score: 2

      How is someone browsing the web with their laptop in the front row more distracting than someone taking notes on their laptop in the front row? Either way the screen is as bright. The taking notes even involves more typing, although I admit that the web surfing will probably involve more changing images on the screen.

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    17. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      two things, 1) sometimes we have weds night movies too, so *5* times a week...
      as for that "29 year old undergrad" - I'm not even 25 and I graduated a couple years ago..
      it also happens I'm the same person who heckles on sunday, or at least one of them.
      and if you give me trouble either night,
      i'll "rip your arms off" - since Tetsuo II:Body Hammer, truly the only really punishment in mcconomy...
      Yeah!

    18. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Snard · · Score: 2, Funny

      How is someone browsing the web with their laptop in the front row more distracting than someone taking notes on their laptop in the front row?

      I guess it would depend on what web sites they are browsing. Especially if the screen is full of lots of flesh-tone...

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    19. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's one thing to be distracted by a laptop screen in a dimmed theater, it's quite another thing to be distracted by a laptop in a fully light lecture hall.

      I and many others bring laptops all the time to 15-211 (CS) lecture in the Wean lecture hall. I've never been distracted by other people's laptop, and I imagine the vast majority of people don't either.

      If you're so easily distracted by a laptop in a well light lecture hall with stadium type seating, then you're definitely in the minority.

    20. Re:Wireless devices during a movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"


      The point is, you are just the biggest freakin' nerd. Unplug for two hour to enjoy a movie, you gear freak. Don't you EVER wanna get laid?!

  4. Towelie by lugonn · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Whenever you go someplace new...you should always bring a towel." - Towelie


    Wanna get high?

  5. wireless theater by DHR · · Score: 2, Funny

    is a bit of an odd concept, but even more strange is that they only have it allowed when a movie *isn't* playing... who hangs out in a theater when there's no movie on?

    1. Re:wireless theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe when your *waiting* for the movie to start. We don't all show up late you know.

    2. Re:Wireless theater by hank · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe the reason why laptops and other PDA-type devices aren't allowed in this theater (or others) are for reasons above just the sheer annoying blips and beeps. What about people with digital cameras stealing the movie to their laptop's HDs? I don't think Lucas or any other producer would be too happy to hear that this theater knowingly let 50 geeks in with laptops (all with the knowledge to steal his movie and distribute it via P2P/FTP/copyright-infringement-method-of-choice), let alone allowing them to be on during the movie.

    3. Re:Wireless theater by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      That's a bit far-fetched. Sure, it's possible, but it's a lot more likely that it's just annoying to hear all sorts of beeping going on during a movie. The theatre cared enough to give its patrons an all-digital experience, not to have it ruined by an ass clicking away on his laptop.

    4. Re:wireless theater by MaineCoon · · Score: 1

      People who got into the theater 30 minutes before the show starts, to get a good seat, and are waiting for the movie to start.

      - Maine Coon

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    5. Re:Wireless theater by steveha · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Ummm... read the article, please. I quote:

      Typical theaters may not work well for this concept, but the Alamo Draft House has table seating for movie goers, so they can order drinks and food while watching the movie. So Internet use would not add anything more to the tolerated commotion that already exists with wait staff taking and delivering orders to the crowd.


      If I had a PDA or laptop in there you probably couldn't hear it over the chewing and slurping noises, and the more beer people drink the more likely they are to chatter noisily.

      In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.

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    6. Re:Wireless theater by dubl-u · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I had a PDA or laptop in there you probably couldn't hear it over the chewing and slurping noises[...]

      Having spent many an evening at Chicago's Brew & View I can say that this is just untrue; it's certainly no worse than in a normal movie theater. Moreover, many of the noises that electronic devices make are designed to catch your attention. Plus, very few foods, even in Chicago, glow; most handheld computing devices do.

      In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.

      Seeing a good, serious movie at Brew & View isn't great. But it's a great place to see something funny; the South Park movie was a blast there. And there is nowhere better see a really bad movie; between the beer and the sassy heckling from the audience, even Jar Jar Binks is tolerable.

    7. Re:Wireless theater by jacobito · · Score: 2

      As a sometime patron of the Alamo Drafthouse, I can assure you that cellphones and the like are noticed over the commotion of the eating, drinking, and laughing. The impulse to murder moveigoers with ringing cellphones does not vanish just because the theater has waiters. If anything, the impulse only becomes stronger, because small, independent theaters like the Drafthouse create the expectation that the moviegoers are there to have fun and watch the film in a pleasant social atmosphere, and won't have to put up with the same rude shit they face at the anonymous suburban 5-screen megaplexes.

      God, for the life of me, I don't know why anyone would want to diddle around with a PC or a PDA while watching a movie.

    8. Re:Wireless theater by 56ker · · Score: 2

      They going to ban crunchy popcorn eating, groups of girls whispering and giggling, coughing and everything else too? I mean what harm is a laptop - although if you were clicking the keys throughout the quiet parts of the films I can see how it would get annoying.

    9. Re:Wireless theater by 56ker · · Score: 2

      When I go to see a film I try to sit as far away from noisy people as possible - so it obviously varies from cinema to cinema. Also it is possible to mute the speakers on a laptop.

    10. Re:Wireless theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      ... and the more beer people drink the more likely they are to chatter noisily.

      In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.


      You're going to need all the beer you can muster to wash down dialogue like: "I don't like the sand.. it's rough and irritating- not like you, you're so soft and smooth"

    11. Re:Wireless theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean what harm is a laptop

      Well, maybe not that much harm to the other patrons watching the movie, but a lot of possible harm to the owner. If someone next to me were to fire up their laptop while I was trying to get my Spiderman groove on, then the might find out how delicate the lcd is when I slam it down on their typing fingers.

    12. Re:wireless theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ones waiting for Star Wars tickets to go on sale.

    13. Re:Wireless theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my goodness, if this is actual dialog, I'm going to piss myself when I see the movie. Maybe I will be taking a towel after all.

    14. Re:Wireless theater by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 2

      I concur to the last statement, especially at the Drafthouse. As theaters go, it's a pretty shitty place to go watch a movie. The food is pretty good, plus they serve beer, but the main reasons people go there are to watch indie films or really, really bad movies. Hell, they devote two nights of the week to the really bad movies, with Mister Sinus Theater (sort of a live MST3K, very, very funny) and Something Weird Wednesdays (where they show the most god-awful and obscure flick they can find, a few weeks back I saw "Bruce Lee Fights Back from Beyond the Grave," an absolute classic Drafthouse flick.. It was horrible, but hilarious.)

      I'd also be pissed if someone opened a laptop during a movie. You went to the movie to see the damn movie, not surf the web. You can do that on your own time. If you absolutely insist on watching a movie while surfing the web, go to Blockbuster, plop in front of the TV, and have at it. By abusing public service, you're just going to ensure that nobody else offers it. From what I've heard, the Drafthouse is having more trouble than they bargained for with the 802.11, and are considering disabling it when the place is not rented out to a conference (they also do large theater-style corporate presentations during the weekdays.) Too many geeks going in and thinking along the lines of this guy.

    15. Re:Wireless theater by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

      This sounds as though you are referring to the Alamo Drafthouse South (original), not the North.

      North has bigger screens and while not perfect audio quality at least it has some sound deadening to kill echoes.

      South is like watching a movie in a high school cafeteria. South plays second run features, cult classics, and does special events frequently.

      North has 4 screens while South has only 1. North plays 1st run movies and mostly big name movies while occasionally running special events. This may change as Alamo North's indie feature competition in North Austin, The Arbor 7 (a Regal Cinemas property), has been forced out of its yuppie strip mall location (in favor of a Cheesecake Factory). And since the seating and presentation are significantly better than South it is likely that more of the specials will move to North.

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    16. Re:Wireless theater by Soulslayer · · Score: 1

      One other tidbit.

      If you happen to own the Evil Dead "Book of the Dead Edition" DVD go to the extras and watch Bruce Campbell's highly amusing Fanalysis.

      The segment in which Bruce walks along a line of movie viewers signing is outside the Alamo Drafthouse South.

      The crazed drunken fans he is wearing his "hide the spilled beer" shirt for are that same group.

      The interior shot of people sitting behind wood faced freestanding bar table type arrangements is the inside.

      The end of the little documentary is shot from inside the ticket booth as Bruce talks to a girl who thinks people that like Evil Dead are idiots and has no idea who she is talking to. :)

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    17. Re:Wireless theater by NerdSlayer · · Score: 2

      If I had a PDA or laptop in there you probably couldn't hear it over the chewing and slurping noises, and the more beer people drink the more likely they are to chatter noisily.

      In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.


      As someone who has actually been to the drafthouse, I feel I'm entitled to actually comment on it.

      The Drafthouse has a very strict "Shut the hell up" policy and state before the movie starts to tell a waitress if other patrons get out of hand and they will be immediately dealt with.

      Obviously they dealt with the original poster of the story effectively, huh?

      It's also been my experience that the waitress only comes around 2 or maybe 3 times during the whole 2 hour movie, which I would say is significantly less distracting than the 2 hour glow of your Vaio backlighting.

    18. Re:Wireless theater by 56ker · · Score: 2

      A career in politics must await me then!

  6. Excuse me Slashdot dudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot DUDES!!! Isn't it illegal to post telephone numbers on the internet that do not belong to you? That 888 number might just use their Automatic Number Identification on you.

  7. What's the point? by ciole · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Exactly my question. Why do you need to use a laptop during a show again?

    Even film critics typically just use a 'light pen.'

    1. Re:What's the point? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      unless their watching star wars - in which case its a "light sab.... oh forget it.

    2. Re:What's the point? by Wanker · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well, to quote the austinwireless.net site:

      Some may ask, why would I want internet access while in a movie theater?

      Well you could:

      • See Theater Schedules & Order Movie Tickets to coming shows.
      • Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking.
      • Messaging to Fellow Movie goers in adjacent screens in multi-screen venues without talking.
      • Surfing to related or official websites for the current movie showing.
      • Surfing to the InternetMovieDataBase for related data to movie, actors and screen writers.
      • Connecting to promotions related to movie sponsor.
      • Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters.
      • Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking.
      • Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance.
      • Watching an alternate streaming movie if the one on the big screen doesn't make it for you.

      It would seem that they were trying to set things up exactly to do the sorts of things they prevented "smashed" from doing.

    3. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not actually watch the movie you paid to see? I can surf at home.

    4. Re:What's the point? by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Well, I use my laptop by putting my wife on it... Oh wait, that's my LAP...

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    5. Re:What's the point? by MoneyT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      See Theater Schedules & Order Movie Tickets to coming shows

      Do this when you're out of the theater. 5 minutes at home can get you a months worth of tickets. If you can't remember the preview you saw, then it didn't make that big of an impression on you, and you don't want to see it that bad anyway.

      Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking.

      What makes you think they want to listen to you in the first place? And even if you're not talking, any noise or flashing indication that you have a message will be just as (or more annoying) to movie goers.

      Messaging to Fellow Movie goers in adjacent screens in multi-screen venues without talking.

      When the hell would you ever want to do that?

      Surfing to related or official websites for the current movie showing.

      What could be on those sites that is more interesting than the movie at hand? Character bios? OH JOY!

      Surfing to the InternetMovieDataBase [imdb.com] for related data to movie, actors and screen writers.

      Wait till you get home. The last thing we need is someone wanking off to the latest modeling pictures of Angelina Joli (sorry for the name butcher)

      Connecting to promotions related to movie sponsor.

      Right, cause not only do I like watching preview, I love reading advertisements while I watch my movie.

      Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters.

      I can see this now, some 20 year old college student pushing the button for more blood and sex while some 40 year old mom is sitting there pushing the "Cuddly Soft" button.

      Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking.

      It would be less distracting for you to get up and get the food yourself than to have an attendent walk in and yell out "Which person ordered the double buttered grease tub bucket -o-popcorn?"

      Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance.

      Once again, wait till you get home. It won't get there any faster if you order it at 12 or at 3

      Watching an alternate streaming movie if the one on the big screen doesn't make it for you.

      I'm sure this violates the DMCA somewhere. And not only that, but if the movie doesn't interest you, you're supposed to walk out and demand your money back, that's how theaters know which movies are doing good, which are doing ok and which just plain suck.

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    6. Re:What's the point? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      That's good, only not. See the problem is when you do all that in the theater you disturb other people who paid to see the movie ..at least you could wait until you're at home to buy the soundtrack or look for nude photos of the leading actress or whatever.

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    7. Re:What's the point? by HCase · · Score: 0, Redundant

      i like the way you think. couldn't have said it better myself.

    8. Re:What's the point? by 1Oman · · Score: 1

      What kind of geek are you? I want wireless access everywhere (I'm sitting at the cave in chapel hill right now).

      If nothing else I could stream the movie to and from my website.

      Oh no I've said too much.

    9. Re:What's the point? by imuffin · · Score: 2

      Don't forget the upstream bandwidth! It's probably mostly unused. Bring your webcam and stream the movie to all your friends so they can watch the movie simultaneously. You can really make the FIRST DivX of that new release!

    10. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh, really... sorry for saying this... but...

      uh the Light Pen is Mightier than the Light Sabe..... Ok, I can't finish it, its that bad

      =)

    11. Re:What's the point? by British · · Score: 2

      Sounds like they just want to bring e-commerce into a theater, so you can buy more stuff during a movie.

      Watching an alternate streaming movie if th ebig screen doesn't make it for you? Uh, why not just leave the theater? I'm sure that the main screen's going to be loud enough for you to distract you from watching an alternate streamed movie.

      I predict this "cyber theater" will be a thing of the past in less than a year.

    12. Re:What's the point? by Moonshadow · · Score: 3, Funny
      You forgot:

      Stream the movie to all your friends at home with your built-in webcam.

    13. Re:What's the point? by anaplasmosis · · Score: 1

      How about having some consideration for the other movie goers? If you use your laptop near me in the theater, then some testing as to whether your laptop is stronger than your nose will ensue. I paid to watch the move; not to watch you being an effing geek.

    14. Re:What's the point? by Tottori · · Score: 1
      Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking.
      I can imagine it now... uh oh! uh oh! uh oh! uh oh! uh oh! uh oh! uh oh! uh oh!
      Wait till you get home. The last thing we need is someone wanking off to the latest modeling pictures of Angelina Joli (sorry for the name butcher)
      He said IMDB, not CNDB!
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    15. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well at the Alamo, you got other distractions going on at the same time....people eating and the runners/waiters running to grab the piece of paper with your order and using a flashlight to check it to make sure it's right and then asking you if that's what you want while you are sitting in your seat. All through out the movie they are running back and forth in front of you delivering food/drinks and taking orders.

    16. Re:What's the point? by Thurn+und+Taxis · · Score: 1

      Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters.

      You mean I can pause the movie while I run off to take a leak? That's awesome, but I imagine everyone else in the theater will be a little pissed off.

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      On stereophonic equipment, the monaural sound obtained through multiple channels will enhance your listening pleasure.
    17. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy should be thankful to the theater for shutting him down... Because if I was sitting next to someone actively using a laptop during a movie they might very well find their appliance permanently disabled. No lights, grinding hard drives, or ticky-tacky on the keyboard on MY watch, thank you very much. This is just like cellphones- it has nothing to do with any legitimate desire or need to communicate and everything to do with getting a very fucked-up self-esteem massage from having this hyperaccess to communications technologies. Remember that scene in Snow Crash when Hiro realizes he's become a Gargoyle?

  8. During the movie... by iMMo · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    ...wouldn't you rather _watch_ the movie?

    1. Re:During the movie... by wadetemp · · Score: 2

      No they'd rather record the movie so that they can post it on Kazaa after the show. I'm surprised they even let anyone bring a laptop into the theatre. It seems like just making you turn it off is pretty considerate.

    2. Re:During the movie... by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      exactly how are you supposed to record a movie with a laptop? oh maybe it has a camera. with that logic you should not be allowed to wear clothes to the theatre because you can conceal a camera inside them. actually that is not a bad policy. i think i am going to head down to the local theatre now and convince them to institute this rule for those rampantly pirated teen/college films. :P

    3. Re:During the movie... by Julian+Plamann · · Score: 1

      Think about it for a moment.

      Laptop:
      1. Clicking keys. Possibly annoying paying cutomers.
      2. Most LCD screens are pretty bright. Sounds like another annoyance to paying customers.
      3. General machine noise. Fans and the like can be pretty annoying. Especially to those around it.
      4. There's always the chance that some schmoe will turn on AOL, forgetting their volume has been left full blast. As "You've got Mail!" roars through the theatre, it's sure to cause mass panic.

      It's about general respect for paying customers.

    4. Re:During the movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As "You've got Mail!" roars through the theatre, it's sure to cause mass panic.

      I didn't think the movie was that bad...

  9. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    RIP Douglas Adams
    i wonder if dying is like entering a total perspective vortex...

    42, amen, and we'll miss you. looking forward to salmon of doubt and the moive.

    1. Re:RIP by qqtortqq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For Adams' sake, I hope death is just like the total perspective vortex- he would be able to understand just how big of an impact he had on the universe.

    2. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean Stephen King?

  10. Re:Adams again? by VEGx · · Score: 1
    Am I the only one who doesn't enjoy his writing?

    Yep, it's official. You're the only one!

  11. Slashdot editors are morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All these stories have been posted before. Read your own site damnit.

    1. Re:Slashdot editors are morons by ksuMacGyver · · Score: 0, Troll

      Read the name...hmmm "Slashback" let's see what does this sound like, ah "Flashback"!!!! DUH

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  12. I'd want you kicked out too by Phasedshift · · Score: 1

    After being slashdotted and geekaustin'd and touted for being the first theater with wireless access .... I went to see Spider-Man tonight at the Alamo Drafthouse North in Austin. Apparently you can't have 'electronic devices on' during the feature. I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"

    Uh... Its a movie... laptop displays can be pretty bright in a dark room, and it is almost (but not quite as bad..) as bad as turning on a flashlight in a theater if your close to the person... I'd ask to have you kicked out if I was trying to watch the movie and was sitting a seat or two behind you..

    Also, why have internet access WHILE your watching the movie? I can see it while your waiting for it to come on, or while your waiting in the lobby, but yeesh.. heh

    1. Re:I'd want you kicked out too by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 2
      Also, why have internet access WHILE your watching the movie? I can see it while your waiting for it to come on, or while your waiting in the lobby, but yeesh.. heh

      Or you could either engage in polite conversation with the person next to you, watch the avderts, or even, horrors, not arrive insanely early.

      What's next, "wireless public toilets", arrive 1/2 an hour before you have to pee so you can browse the web for a bit ?!?!

      It's like WAP on cell phones... yeah I guess it's interesting, never mind that it's utterly pointless for 99% of the population.

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  13. wow, lots of resolutions by tps12 · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    It's great to see some of this stuff.

    Douglas Adams passed away a little over a year ago now, and as tradition will soon dictate the first Thursday after May 11th every year is International Towel Day. This happens to be this Thursday, so make sure you all show up to the 12:01 am showing of Attack of the Clones with your favorite lightsaber and a towel. Always know where your towel is.

    Anyone know if this is coincidence, or if G. Lucas is paying tribute to a strong influence?

    CNet, among others, informed its readers that Macromedia successfully countersued Adobe for patent infringement to the tune of $4.9 million, almost double the $2.8 million Adobe recently won from Macromedia. The article notes Macromedia has another patent suit against Adobe going to court in June 2003.

    This is good news for, well, everybody. Think about it: Open Sourcers like all of us here on /. get to attract people to The Cause, and Adobe and Macromedia are just going to keep prospering under patent law, giving back value to all of their non-OSS customers.

    Wired has yet another article about deep linking.

    I remember I used to think deep linking was okay, but have obviously since changed my mind. If companies deep linked to /., now that /. relies heavily on ads for its revenue, we probably wouldn't have it. :(

    Writing in regards to this posting on Linux on mainframes

    Yum, more! If you are familiar with my business concerns, you know that I have a lot of experience with Linux on mainframe hardware. Mainframes and Linux are both a boon to the enterprise, and we will just continue to see more success in this area. You should see one of these babies run Quake, it is impressive. ;)

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    1. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by Matthaeus · · Score: 1

      Douglas Adams passed away a little over a year ago now, and as tradition will soon dictate the first Thursday after May 11th every year is International Towel Day. This happens to be this Thursday, so make sure you all show up to the 12:01 am showing of Attack of the Clones with your favorite lightsaber and a towel. Always know where your towel is.

      Anyone know if this is coincidence, or if G. Lucas is paying tribute to a strong influence?

      I think George Lucas already paid tribute to Adams in The Phantom Plot. The announcer for the podrace bore a striking resemblance to Adams' description of Zaphod Beeblebrox.

    2. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by peter · · Score: 2

      > I remember I used to think deep linking was okay, but have obviously since changed my mind. If companies deep linked to /., now that /. relies heavily on ads for its revenue, we probably wouldn't have it. :(

      I would guess that most of /.'s traffic comes from ordinary readers who start at the front page, or people who follow links to whole stories, rather than individual comments. This being the case, there wouldn't be much decrease in the amount of adds shown.

      Other web sites might have a different situation, where most of their traffic comes from deep linking. However, news web sites always seem to have some adds thrown in with their articles, so people aren't avoiding adds by following deep links.

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    3. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember I used to think deep linking was okay, but have obviously since changed my mind. If companies deep linked to /., now that /. relies heavily on ads for its revenue, we probably wouldn't have it. :(

      Slashdot was a lot different back in the day when they relied on selling chilly dogs for revenue. :P

      Seriously though... If you link to a comment you still end up getting a banner ad.

    4. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by Max+Threshold · · Score: 1

      Seriously though... If you link to a comment you still end up getting a banner ad. Holy macaroni, you're right! I guess I've been stealing Slashdot articles ever since I installed that ad filter on my optic nerve.

    5. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      If companies deep linked to /., now that /. relies heavily on ads for its revenue, we probably wouldn't have it.

      If you deep link to a /. story - say a link to your post - there's still an ad. (Or at least, a peak at the source tells me there would be one, if I wasn't running Junkbuster.)

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    6. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by kangolo · · Score: 1

      One thing to remember though is if someone follows a link to a good article, they're likely to come back to the site that was linked, and do so using the main page.

    7. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by ethereal · · Score: 1

      If you link just to a /. comment, you still get an ad. So deep linking doesn't hurt /..

      Personally, I feel like if you don't want your web server giving out pages to certain people, you should instruct it not to. There are already adequate technical options for controlling deep linking - we don't need to get the legal system involved.

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    8. Re:wow, lots of resolutions by AJWM · · Score: 2

      deep linking

      If people don't want deep links to items on their web site, they should configure their web server to check the "referer" field before serving such items up, or require password access.

      If they're too incompetent/lazy/whatever to do that, too bad: if it's on the web, it's public.

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  14. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, Yes, Yes, Only one... THE One.....

  15. Answers by dirvish · · Score: 1

    Yes, he was very influential.

    Yes, you are the only one who doesn't enjoy his writing.

    Yes, you are the only one thoroughly tired of hearing about him.

    There is, and only will be, one Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe

    RIP Douglas

    1. Re:Answers by dirvish · · Score: 1

      Doh! I meant Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    2. Re:Answers by Enahs · · Score: 2
      Hrm. I'm somewhat amused by Adams, but don't really care for his writing all that much (not enough to show up to a movie premier with a towel, at least.)



      I, for one, am a bit tired of the Adams worship. Then again, I'm growing tired of just about any sort of worship of pop icons. ;-D

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  16. Party time... by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Back in college, my house threw a "come as you come out of the shower party." Had nothing to do with Douglas Adams., and eveything to do with getting girls to show up wrapped in a towel.

    We didn't have a network, or hi-speed connection, but we had a full bar, a nice bong, and a house band which are far more attractive to girls.

    1. Re:Party time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget that you had girls wearing only towels. That's the most important part.

    2. Re:Party time... by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 1

      Of course, only the lame ones would wear robes.

    3. Re:Party time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "come as you come out of the shower"

      Please rephrase that. Thank you very much.

    4. Re:Party time... by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
      Please relinquish your Slashdot account, step away from the computer with your hands where we can see them. You are not a Nerd and cannot participate in the Nerdly festivities called Slashdot.

      I mean, heck, anyone in a fraternity in college doesn't qualify to be a Nerd. Especially one that was successful at getting girls to show up wrapped in towels.

      Nerds everywhere are drooling...

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    5. Re:Party time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up. Fuck you very much.

  17. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, you are the only one. Seriously though, he wrote some really great stuff.

  18. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you think we should give up our freedom to earn money for slashdot?

    1. Re:WTF? by tps12 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Tell me about it.

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  19. What's the point indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the point of having your laptop open and geeking out during a movie? Um... instead, why don't you WATCH THE MOVIE.

    People like you are why I love my CRT projector.

  20. Then am I to understand there's been a towlie-ban? by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1

    > Wanna get high?

    No Towlie!

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  21. Towel Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't Towel Day May 25? It's Two weeks after his death, not the first thursday. More information can be found at:

  22. Towel day site says 25th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.systemtoolbox.com/towelday/

    Says 42 days after his death. What's up with the 15th?

  23. Re:Adams again? by qqtortqq · · Score: 1

    We needed all of them, and a few more in my opinion.

  24. Re:Adams again? by VEGx · · Score: 1

    I would suggest you visiting a doctor ASAP!

  25. Wireless theater access... by stienman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The restrictions for the wireless theatre access is more for copy protection than anything else. No reasonable person would want to watch the movie through a slow internet connection with a web cam, but the movie studios certianly don't want it to even be considered.

    -Adam

  26. Shut your laptop off? Good! by greenfly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"

    Good. If I'm watching a movie, I don't want the backlight from your laptop or PocketPC glaring at me, the clunking of your keyboard or beeping (or worse) from your laptop.

    Cellphones have shown that there are plenty of people who have no concept of others in public places, and who can't be bothered to turn it off.

    If you arrive early at a movie, and want to browse the web to pass the time, fine. Once the movie starts though, I want everything (including your mouth) shut off.

    Just watch the movie. That's what you paid $10 for anyway.

  27. Wireless theater by colmore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If at any time in the future, someone has a laptop, ipaq, or any other glowing, clicking, beeping little device on around me in a movie theater, i reserve the right to confiscate said device and return it to them at the end of the movie... via anus.

    I'm serious, movie theaters had better not allow this sort of thing.

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  28. Copyright infringement by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 3, Informative
    There has been ruling that the act of loading a webpage into a browser is copyright infringment. This is in a case where the user did not, or was not supposed to have access to that web page.

    Under this theory a deap link into a pasword protected site (like NYT) could be a contributory infringment.

    1. Re:Copyright infringement by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      Um, just HTTP content or could FTP content be covered as well? Like a situation where a company forgets to block anonymous access to a directory on their FTP server?

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    2. Re:Copyright infringement by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1
      I would argue that FTP or even telnet.


      But,the person who is making that copy must have been informed that they are exceeding the permitted access. That is where terms of use comes into play.

      The court would probably frown on someone having a website/ftp that would just trap users into violation without warning. But, if they ignore the notices (robots.txt) then it should be able to be won.

  29. Thursday after May 11th? by JMMurphy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was under the impression that Towel Day was May 25th. A quick search reveals (http://www.systemtoolbox.com/towelday/) that at least some people consider May 25th to be Towel Day...

    I, presonally, have been prepping my towels for the 25th, and I don't think I'll change my plans in light of this Slashdot story.

    random

    1. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by darthBear · · Score: 1

      I am similarly confused. Can these groups please come together, it loses all effect when there is no cohesion.

    2. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by MrCreosote · · Score: 2, Funny

      No! No! No!
      *EVERY* day should be Towel Day

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    3. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by shogun · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I realized a short time ago that Towel Day was coming up and came up with the same page. I'm surprised noone has claimed towelday.org or the like and put up 'official' information there. Especially as the above (incorrect?) page is the first google hit for 'towel day'

    4. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by Nathan+Brazil · · Score: 1

      Write your Congressman! Get the people who know how to make days of importance to the American People to nail this bugger down but good!

      Or maybe your UN Rep. It could be International Towel Day, I hear Douglas Adams spent quite a bit of his time overseas.

      :)

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    5. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes he did spend a lot of time overseas, some of it in America.

    6. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by gosand · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You know, I never did read The Hitchhiker's Guide. I have the latest version/compilation, I got it last year for Xmas. I have been wanting to read it, just because it is famous. But every reference I read to it is just dumb. I have known people who have read it, and they seemed to make dumb references to dumb things. They don't even seem remotely funny. I guess I should read it before passing judgement, but I have a feeling that the book isn't that great, and that it is a cult classic because a few dorks found it entertaining.

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    7. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by Cally · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The books are funny mostly because they remind us how superb the radio series was (is.) The last three places I've worked have ALL had copies on the local mp3 server. They were good places to work:)

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    8. Re:Thursday after May 11th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on.

      Stuff from books or movies is rarely funny when taken out of context and it's often lame. The whole point of "out of context" statements is to find others who have had the same "shared experience". Those who laugh obviously have read/seen the entertainment in question, those who don't are the uninitiated.

      For instance, I can break in to the whole "arguement" scene from MPFC or simply say "this isn't an argument", and if you respond correctly than it's funny. In the first case I would be a geek/dork in the latter case we already understand something about eachother with only a few words of conversation.

  30. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amen!

  31. Linking... by Magustrench · · Score: 0

    Isn't the linking issue a little old? I mean, are lawyers so stupid that they accuse people of something that isn't illegal?? Oh wait, I should never underestimate an angry hoard of lawyers (equipped with OfficeXP generating fucked up html, of course).

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  32. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by wadetemp · · Score: 2

    Hey, speak for yourself! I pay $10 to eat popcorn, not watch a movie.

  33. Why??? by Restil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Granted, when I'm in a typical movie theatre, I kindof expect that everyone won't have thier cellphones out and their laptops running.

    However, when I go to a wireless, geek based theatre, I DO expect it, and SHOULD expect it and should not be surprised in the slightest when everyone, INCLUDING ME, has this equipment running. The theatre can set the policy. Obviously they saw a market for a theatre that actually ALLOWED those very "distractions" since so many people seemed compelled to distract others. This is actually a perfect idea. Give these people a place they can go that this activity is welcome and they'll leave the rest of us alone.

    Alas, apparently all is not what it seems to be.

    -Restil

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    1. Re:Why??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever hear of bold font? Get the fuck off your caps lock key anyway, especially if you have nothing intelligent to say.

    2. Re:Why??? by jacobito · · Score: 2

      To be honest, I don't think the Drafthouse has ever billed itself as a "cyber-theater," and if they (rather than local geek groups) have promoted their wireless access point, I haven't noticed. The linked article contains statements by an Austin wireless networking user group, not by the theater. And I really don't understand why people would even want to use a computer in a theater. The reasons listed in the article were far from compelling. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply watch the movie?

    3. Re:Why??? by sahala · · Score: 1
      To be honest, I don't think the Drafthouse has ever billed itself as a "cyber-theater," and if they (rather than local geek groups) have promoted their wireless access point, I haven't noticed.

      I second this. The Drafthouse (any of the locations) are hardly geek-targetted, although perhaps a few cult films might cater to the geek crowd. If any part of the population is targetted, it's probably the part of the population that likes to have a few bottles of beer or glasses of wine while watching their movie.

      I could potentially tolerate other people using their laptops if a) they're quiet typers and b) their laptop screens are dimmed down enough that no backlight is noticeable. Of course, this probably wouldn't make for great computer use, so why bother whipping out your laptop anyway.

    4. Re:Why??? by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 2

      They don't market themselves as a "Cyber Theater." The 802.11 access point was installed by a local WLAN group. The main users of it, I would believe, would not be the nightly movie patrons, but the businesses they rent the theater out to for presentations during the day. Hell, the Drafthouse doesn't even tell anyone that they have it, said local WLAN group has been doing all the advertising (much to the Drafthouse's chagrin, now they have to deal with laptop-toting geeks)

    5. Re:Why??? by Werelock · · Score: 1

      So long as there is a warning posted on the outside of the theater that this is a digital domain - fine. I'm going to be a bit more than pissed if there isn't a warning and I spend $10 to see a good movie and find 20 backlit displays nearby during the flick. I've got a laptop and love the idea with a cafe/dining setup, but not for the typical movie theater.

  34. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    I mean, how many "Hitchhiker's Guides" did we really need?

    Just the original version, in it's durable plastic case with the simple 'Don't Panic!' logo. I mean, sure, you -could- go for the prototype Guide seen in 'Mostly Harmless', but that thing's just plain scary, IMHO...

    "It's all fun and games, 'til you realize it's only streams of 1's and 0's..."

  35. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His books (at least Hitchhiker's Guide) made it onto the lists of "100 Best Books of the Century" a few years ago - lists created by the literary critics who hate popular books. That book showed up at around 60ish. Why? Probably because they are well-done books even from a literary perspective.

  36. My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a notch by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the article: "The score is now Adobe-1, Macromedia-1, customers-0," Rob Burgess, Macromedia's chairman and chief executive, said in a statement. The company declined further comment through a representative.

    An excellent and sobering quote. Very good sense of perspective.

  37. Deep linking by mikosullivan · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Deep linking by Wanker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah, that's nothing. How about this 35,800 foot deep link.

    2. Re:Deep Linking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course since the the referrer is sent by the client, people can make it say whatever they want. The smart ones, anyhow.

    3. Re:Deep Linking by demi · · Score: 1

      I agree. Isn't a technical solution a lot easier than cease-and-desist notices and bad press?

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  38. Drafthouse 802.11b by ikeleib · · Score: 1

    The idea for 802.11b access is to make it an attractive place for corporate meetings, you meatheads. It's not so you can surf when the on screen action is boring to you.

    1. Re:Drafthouse 802.11b by Arrgh · · Score: 1

      Wow, I've been waiting for The Authority On Recommended Uses Of Technology to come around. Thanks!

    2. Re:Drafthouse 802.11b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh, why would you have a corporate meeting at the Drafthouse? If I were to have a corporate meeting it would be in my meeting room.

    3. Re:Drafthouse 802.11b by ikeleib · · Score: 1

      People go to meetings that have movies, food, and beer afterwards.

  39. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you even belive that yourself? They're cheap pulp.

  40. Deep Linking by baralong · · Score: 1

    It seems to me it should be possible to stop people (the vast majority at any rate) from deeplinking to the ad-free/print-friendly versions. Just check the http-referer tag in the http header, if someone isn't coming from your site then just redirect them to the non-print-friendly/ad-rich version of the page with a note about why that happend.

  41. Re:Then am I to understand there's been a towlie-b by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

    > > No Towlie!

    To misquote comic book guy, "Oh Towlie, everyone hates you but me.".

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  42. save lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. "
    she may have saved your life, espcially if you were trying to use that crap next to me at a theater.
    you know what a theater is, dont you?a place where people go to watch movies because of the quality of the screen, sound, and eniviroment?

    get a clue. guess what? I don't want you talking on your cell phone at a library either.

    Have some respect for the people around you. If not respect at least acknowledge some common courtsy, you fuck.

  43. OK by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 1
    I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on.

    This would have been the appropriate moment for the old toss-the-smoke-grenade-and-scream-FIIIIRRRE prank.

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  44. To theatre laptop users... by ByronEllis · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's really for your own good, nobody wants to be beaten to death with their own laptop.

  45. Just when IS towel day? by Galvatron · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the old h2g2 site, the first towel day was May 25th, which happened to be the last Friday of the month. The author of that node therefore suggests that it always be the last Friday of the May. This explains why some people think it's May 25th and some think the last Friday of May. Where the first Thursday after May 11th came from, I have no idea. To allow those of us with sufficiently lenient casual Friday policies to participate, the last Friday of May sounds more reasonable.

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    1. Re:Just when IS towel day? by stcanard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But, isn't it just implicit that any event commemorating Douglas Adams has to be on a Thursday?

      I don't know where the idea of a Friday would come from. A towel on a Thursday just makes sense. Helps you get the hang of Thursdays.

    2. Re:Just when IS towel day? by CyberGarp · · Score: 3, Funny

      I say we should do it alternating Thursdays and Fridays every other year with alternate leap years on a Tuesday. Maybe there should be a planning panel together composed of hair dressers and lawyers. Also no day should feel left out or discriminated against, so there should be the capability for a "wild-card" day every third year to celebrate this day. This will be announced long after the event was supposed to happen, so that proper planning can be made for all week day inclusiveness under calenders that haven't been invented yet. You'll have to pick up the time off a tachyon stream on your sub-ether transmitter.

      Oh hell, how about we put a Vogon planning committee in charge of deciding when the holiday is?

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    3. Re:Just when IS towel day? by Galvatron · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Alright, with a bit more searching, it seems that more people agree with May 25th than the last Friday in May. However, there is also "Happy Adams Day" set for Feb. 11th, the 42nd day of the year (also exactly 1 month before his birthday, and 3 months before the anniversary of his death). Therefore, in the spirit of community cohesion, I abandon my stance that it should be May 31st, going instead with May 25th.

      I would like to further propose that this be the LAST towel day, and that starting next year, we all celebrate DNA on February 11th, and that said celebration include carrying towels. Sound good to everyone?

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    4. Re:Just when IS towel day? by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 1

      You just don't get it... Time is an illusion: Towel Day doubly so.

      *grin*

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  46. Re:Adams again? by MoneyT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obviously you are not one to take much of an observance of life. Nor one who is a fan of british humor.

    In his H^2G^2 Series, Adams took a rather playful and accurate punch at life, and nailed it on the nose. Life truly is silly. There are so many things that happen arround us every day that we take for granted as perfectly normal and yet would make anyone who was not acustomed to our lives go "What the hell?"

    Life was meant to be enjoyed in a way that is condusive with happiness. The infamous "Don't Panic" mantra is one that should be taken to heart. Life does have a mysterious way of working out, and even if it doesn't, in the end we die anyway, so why should you worry that your toast was burned thismorning, or that you can't find your socks. Just take life one breath at a time and enjoy.

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  47. PocketPC in Theater by xelph · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    People should learn to do only one thing at a time and do it well. Here are some examples of things to do: watching a movie, using a PocketPC, eating at a restaurant, talking on a cell phone, fucking your girlfriend, reading the Kama-sutra, etc. Get it, PokePCmon?

  48. Don't mean to sound sappy, but... by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He has definately been one of the most influential writers in my life, I'd put him on a par with Vonnegut. There is a whole category of contemporary authors/thinkers I like to call "Science Fiction Philosophers," which both Adams and Vonnegut belong to. Vonnegut is a little more blunt with his philosophy, while Adams is more fanciful, but their views of the life and the universe (and so on) definately come out in the books, and it has touched many people's minds. My mom read HHGthG to me when I was an impressionable young kid, which perhaps explains some things...

    While I doubt you are the only person who dislikes DNA, It's hard to realistically say that his works aren't important to many, many people. For some reason, the "geek community," which I'm not really sure I belong to (if it even really exists), has adopted his writings as one chapter of a "geek bible."

    I've never been so attached to anyone I've never met as to him.

    -If

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    1. Re:Don't mean to sound sappy, but... by fdisk3hs · · Score: 1

      Yeah, DNA got me through my late teens/ early twenties. When I needed to forget about things and have a laugh, I read h2g2 or his Dirk Gently Holistic Detective stuff (Long Dark Tea-time of the Soul shows his maturity as a writer, something that is missing somewhat in the Hitchhiker's guide stuff). He had such a sense of humor in looking at the absurdity of the world, which is a good perspective to have once in a while.
      Good on ya, DNA...

  49. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You asked:
    I mean, how many "Hitchhiker's Guides" did we really need?

    42, actually.

  50. That's what runnersworld.com did by ahecht · · Score: 1

    If you go to the deep linked page: http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-0-0-1963 -1-0-P,00.html, you will be redirected to the non-printer page. However, clicking the printer link in the article will take you to the same URL.

  51. z900 linux port by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    Interesting article. In the first part, it's shown that a z900 is very expensive for what it does. In the second part, the author claims that IBM tries to justify the cost with claims of superior resource management-- but the only reason that resources need to be managed so effectively is that the resources are artificially limited by IBM's sky high prices.

    So why the 390 port? Is it a gimmick-- a source tree designed first to enhance Linux's reputation for scaling from palmtops to mainframes, and then to make IBM's outdated mainframes seem hip?

    1. Re:z900 linux port by PoiBoy · · Score: 1
      I thought the first article in this series tended to be a bit negative toward toward zSeries Linux, but this second installment went way over the edge. IIRC there was some discussion on /. that those articles were sponsored by Sun.

      What I'd really like to see are some case studies from companies who have actually used Linux on the mainframe. What are their impressions of cost effectiveness? Why did they choose the mainframe instead of a UNIX server as this guy is preaching?

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  52. Deep Linking is like... by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Deep Linking is exactly like Magazine #1 writing:

    "There's this interesting article on page 42 in this month's Magazine #2 issue."

    Would Magazine #2 sue Magazine #1 in the real world? Then why do lawyers seem to think it's perfectly normal to sue over exactly the same thing in the digital world?

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    1. Re:Deep Linking is like... by shepmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While you have a good point, a better analogy would be one unordered encyclopedia referencing another.

      A magazine you could point to and it would have a table of contents, etc, as well as being compact.

      An encyclopedia of my type would be hard to find something, and your readers would have little luck finding what you were talking about. This is the point of deep-linking.

    2. Re:Deep Linking is like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      a better analogy would be one unordered encyclopedia referencing another.

      No, you see, like with magazines, you still have to buy the things to follow the 'deep links'.

  53. Re:Adams again? by jd142 · · Score: 2

    I'll get flamed for this, but I find his writing only mildly humorous at best. It is very lightweight reading, and most of it, especially the Dirk Gently stuff, seems to have been lifted from Dr. Who stories that aired when he was script editor. He wasn't credited with writing those scripts though.

    His writing is like cotton candy, not bad, but certainly not filling. Very light and with a tendency to dissolve a few seconds after you get it.

    I also stopped enjoying the non sequiter humor of Monty Python funny after I was about 15 years old. I can only watch about 5 minutes of it before it gets old.

    After all, the man had the nerve to try and pass off the hoary old "cookie swap" story as actually happening to him. See http://www.snopes2.com/crime/safety/cookies.htm

  54. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by supabeast! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Agreed!

    Cellular phone jammers are illegal in the USA... is anyone else up for joining me on a bill that allows (If not mandates.) jamming devices to be installed in every theatre in the country?

  55. Quake Death Match at the movies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all those chick flicks all the guys that have an obligation to go see it with their girlfriends could frag each other during the movie...

    And could be considerate enough to dim the screens a little...

  56. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, in the US already, it seems to me like the problem is going away; as more and more people have cell phones, they ring in theatres less and less. I don't have a study for you, but this is what I've observed. People seem to have a better understanding now that they're more used to the phones.

    It used to be really bad too. A few years ago I remember somebody's cell phone going off during a symphony! To make things worse, they *answered* it, and *talked* for a while! In a perfect society that would be a hanging offense. But more recently, when I went to see LOTR in a crowded theater? Not a peep.

  57. Just because you don't agree don't mod FLAMEBAIT by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

    I wish I had mod points left to soothe this poor guy's karma.

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  58. Insightful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    High-school style drivel more like.

    Fact is, Adams wrote in the same manner as harlequin novels are written. Sure, he can make up a story. But his writing-style is much like Star Trek fan-fic. Repetitive and boring.

    1. Re:Insightful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't speak for Star Trek fanfic (who the heck would read *that*??) but some of the anime fanfic is quite awful. Bad spelling, bad grammar, bad plot, it's really quite horrific.

      I think the main problem you're coming up against with Adams' work is that it requires some level of intelligence to find any humor in it. If you've grown up with Hollywood's bathroom humor/teen movie crap, you just won't get it.

  59. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by ergo98 · · Score: 1

    I'd say that another reason why it's less likely to occur is that the "exclusivity" of having a cell phone has diminished dramatically, hence the pompous self-important ass who just must take that critically important call asking him "Wazzzzappppp?" doesn't get quite the props he may at one time have thought he would get. The same thing holds true with laser pointers: Ha ha, you're funny kid, but when 30 kids all had their laser pointers it lost the novelty. I think there was a Seinfeld along those lines at one time.

    I've heard about incidents like what you mentioned (though I've never seen one that bad), and honestly I would ostracize that person: Anyone so unbelievably devoid of social skills to think that that is even remotely acceptable is a scourge. On a more common note are those on the GO train here in the GTA who insist upon YELLING into their cell phone (totally unnecessary to begin with), apparently under the belief that their conversation is of interest to all of us.

  60. theaters and towels by RestiffBard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    firstly, I always figured geeks had a pretty good sense of what was the right way to act in a theater. You come in sit down and shut up. You don't do anything to annoy the other people. I swear if I see a jackass with a laptop while I'm trying to watch a movie I'm gonna knock your block off. thats just fucking rude as hell. You don't want to watch the movie and pay attention then go home. also, aren't you supposed to have your towel with you at all times anyway?

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    1. Re:theaters and towels by Quadrature · · Score: 1

      I'm gonna knock your block off. thats just fucking rude as hell.

      THAT is rude?
    2. Re:theaters and towels by RestiffBard · · Score: 2

      knocking the block off someone tapping away instant messaging his buddies in other theaters is not rude. it is a service to the movie going community.

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  61. Different Kind of Theater by waldoj · · Score: 2

    Remember that this isn't a regular movie theater -- this is a fancy one, with tables and dinner being served and stuff. So there's got to be enough light to eat, people will be doing things like passing salt, getting up for fresh drinks, etc. A laptop isn't as grossly out of place as you might normally expect it to be.

    -Waldo Jaquith

    1. Re:Different Kind of Theater by Soulslayer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ok some adiitional info about the Alamo Drafthouse.

      Orders are taken before the show and during previews.

      Staff are very quiet and make as little noise or visual (crouching once the feature presentation has started) distraction as possible.

      One of the theater created bumpers before the show is a clip from the 80's version of "The Blob" where a noisy movie patron is blabbing in a normal conversation tone about what is happening on the screen and gets consumed by the blob. At which point giant block letters come on the screen to inform the Drafthouse crowd that if you talk during the the presentaion, "We'll kick your ass out."

      The wireless access is very cool for the drafthouse type crowd that typically arrives 30 minutes to an hour before the showing to get their seats and order and wants something to do while waiting for the movie.

      People like the guy that was acting all annoyed about being told to close his notebook are just as bad as the people that feel they have the right to leave their phones on audible ring and talk in loud voices like the theater was their own personal living room. Wireless access does not equate to the right to do whatever you want.

      As a movie-aholic that frequents the Alamo Drafthouse among many of the other theaters in Austin there are times when I totally feel like this Real Life comicstrip.

      If you can't have basic respect for other people trying to watch the movie stay home, please.

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    2. Re:Different Kind of Theater by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1


      I get the feeling that there are many people out there that just can't grasp the basic concept of how going to the movies politely is supposed to work.

      That strip was right on target; I found this rant that really sums up a lot of it as well.

    3. Re:Different Kind of Theater by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was the guy and no I do not leave my cell phone on audible when I watch movies. All the hoopla about the Alamo being a Cyber-Theater is what pissed me off. It isn't a cyber theater at all. I would have left my laptop at home, but since it was portrayed as being a laptop friendly theater, I brought it.

  62. Ok, some one please explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why anyone would pitch a fit about deep-links, or any links, to their site? I'm completely lost on this one guys and gals - I don't understand the rational of how you loose money by having consumers directed to your site and its ads. Why would anyone get angry about this?

  63. 888-977-1577 by isolation · · Score: 0

    Has a modem on it.
    Time to put on the blackhat =P

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  64. Go Leafs Go!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're gonna take it this year baby!!

    1. Re:Go Leafs Go!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're damn right. The Hartford Whalers can't stop us! And the Dead Wings or the Avalunch will be so worn down after their seven-game series that they will wilt like the pansies they really are under the mighty onslaught of the Leafs.

      35 years is way too long... may the most sacred of all Cups find its way back to Toronto where it belongs.

  65. Internet -- not optical by Whyrl · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else notice the congressman's bill's definition of the internet? Apparently if spam is sent only to recipients with fiber optic connections to the net and if the message originates from a computer with a fiber optic connection then it's not spam, because it's not on the internet...good news for spammers on Internet2. Perhaps this will lead spammers to lobby for HIGH SPEED internet infrastructure....that'd be irony, ay?

  66. How about Towel Month? by WEFUNK · · Score: 1

    Obviously there's some confusion here...

    I say we just call it a draw and declare the entire month of May to be Towel Month.

    After all, anything as massively important as a towel deserves more than just a day...

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  67. Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no by Swaffs · · Score: 2

    How much did these companies spend on these cases though? Is it even fair to say that Adobe and Macromedia even get a point each?

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  68. Faraday cage by DarkMan · · Score: 2

    You don't need a jammer. A jammer would broadcast losts of noise in radio frequencies. There is, however, another method that could be used to block cell phones.

    Build each screen inside a Faraday cage. Essentially, the idea is to encase the whole room in a sheet of metal. The will block the radio frequency waves, and thus the phones won't work. The Faraday cage operates on the principle that the metal screen need not be complete, but that there can be gaps, provided that these gaps are small (and you can calculate how small they need to be.

    To be quite honest, the simplest retro fit solution is to put a layer of tin foil on the walls, under wall papere (or paint it). Stick a sheet in the door, and you've got most of the place, and you'll probably be attenuating the signal by a good proportion. It might not prevent them from working, but it'd be

    a) damn cheap

    b) somewhere near 70% efficent.

    Of course, the best solution is to educate the audience. Preferable with a good sized LART.

    1. Re:Faraday cage by brer_rabbit · · Score: 2

      Jammer, faraday cage? Screw it, get me a big friggin electromagnetic pulse. Just warn me ahead of time so I can get the hell out of there.

    2. Re:Faraday cage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Optimal solution:

      Anyone whose phone rings during a movie is taken outside. If it is a legitimate emergency, fine.

      If not, a .45 to the skull.

      Social Darwinism. It's the only way.

  69. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by dfenstrate · · Score: 1

    Cellphone Jammers are illegal, true.... but Faraday Cages are not.... something to think about in the future construction of theaters.

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  70. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by G-funk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, because some people's need for communication devices (doctors, for example) far, far outweighs our right to a quiet theatre. I hate phones in theatres as much as you, but sometimes there are exceptions... Plus people like me like to have their phone on silent and vibrate so I at least have the option of leaving the cinema if I feel the call is important enough to me.

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  71. Towelday website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.towelday.net/

  72. Re:Adams again? by Tralfamadorian · · Score: 1

    As a reader who is also looking for literature more "filling", what do you recommend? This is an honest question.

  73. Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no by G-funk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Yes I agree. Although flash can be (and often is) misused by "designers" the world over, it's a good product, made by a decent company. And it's good to see somebody in a position to bitchslap adobe, because frankly they're evil, greedy bastards, always have been.

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  74. Prarie Home Companion is the best by On+Lawn · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Since Duke of URL mentioned it in his Slashback, I just wanted to pause and note.

    1. Re:Prarie Home Companion is the best by BubbaFett · · Score: 2

      Well you gotta have your news from Lake Wobegon.

    2. Re:Prarie Home Companion is the best by On+Lawn · · Score: 1


      My wifes favorite are the Guy Noir episodes. I like the music, I remember an all electric guitar version of Bethoven's Fuge in G.

      But hey, what can you say about a place where all the children are above average...

  75. Re:Adams again? by Tralfamadorian · · Score: 1

    I think the people who enjoy Adams' work have probably never read a classic epic in their lives, an d thus think more of Adams' writing than they should.

  76. I have the perfect solution for cell phones. by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 4, Funny


    The last time someone down the isle had to take not one, not two, not three, but four calls all of them answered with "Yo HO whass the happs?!". The last pound of popcorn from my supersized popcorn bucket, 4 ounces of butter, and the bucket also hit him in the back of the head from 6 chairs over. Not only did he shut up but he left in a real big hurry when his anger was squelched by the 60+ people clapping and laughing their collective asses off. Poor sap...I almost felt bad.

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    1. Re:I have the perfect solution for cell phones. by ambientboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I nominate this man for president of the United States.

    2. Re:I have the perfect solution for cell phones. by tomlouie · · Score: 2, Funny

      God, I've always wanted to do that to people who constantly talk during movies.

      I think we have a business plan here for "Remote Slap-Upside-Their-Head" (tm). If someone constantly performs ThoughtlesslyRudeAndAnnoying Act during a movie, you speed-dial and SMS a request for a "Remote Slap-Upside-Their_Head" (RSUTH), plus a destination vector. The nearest authorized employee of "RSUTH" will receive the message, and carry out the request. *SLAP*!

      Vigilante Justice is so underrated.

      Tom

  77. Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

    I was thinking the actual score is Adobe - 0 Macromedia - 1/2 Lawyers - 2 Customers - 0, but still the original point that I cited is well taken.

  78. Re:Ahem by Zapper · · Score: 1

    Actually, this may be the only time [goatse.cx] shouldn't be considered a troll. :-)

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  79. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Cycle+23 · · Score: 1

    Cell phone jamming in theaters is already commonplace in Israel where cell phones are more common than land lines.

    But if that's where we're going, why stop at theaters? I want a jammer in my car so I don't get run off the road again by another Prozac Princess on the phone.

  80. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, because some people's need for communication devices (doctors, for example) far, far outweighs our right to a quiet theatre.

    So, let's say you are a really important Dr. on the upper echelons of society where you need to be available for that all important call 24/7/365... Your saying that my 8 bucks a ticket for some relaxing entertainment is not as important as your phone call? Gimme a break.

    If you are SOOOO damned important and obsessed with that all important call please don't go to the fucking theater. As a matter of fact get out of the theater and stay out as you are presently slacking your important tasks and have no business seeking entertainment amongst us unimportant, ticket buying, riff raff.

    People just want to see a film, any film, without it being interrupted at least 5 times during the presentation. Stay home, go out to dinner or what have you but let us enjoy the show without you and your phone.

    And yeah, I am aware that you have a 'silent' or 'vibrate' mode on your phone. Unfortunately most folks totally foget about that feature until after it has rang at least twice and that TOTALLY MOOTS THE POINT!

  81. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit .... new technology comes along that a minority feel they need to use 24/7 and the rest of us are denied the pleasures we've been enjoying beep-free for years? Damn! No! You want a cellphone then you better respect everyone around you. Instant communication is not a right,

  82. Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish they would donate the difference of the money the won and the money they lost to some worthwhile software-related cause.

    Maybe lobbying against software patents or something, I dunno.

  83. Re:Douglas Adams should have heeded his own advice by nickgrieve · · Score: 1

    Man, the mods are on crack. Thats at least +1 funny, mod it up.

  84. Alamo Drafthouse by DarkZero · · Score: 2

    This is the Alamo Drafthouse. It's the home of several talks, movie marathons, and things that could almost be called movie fan conventions. From what I've heard, there are LOTS of people there when movies aren't on.

  85. I know a better place by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Navy ships. We panned movies mercilessly. Trash got talked back to. One particularly bad movie (73-76, couldn't tell you any closer) was some sorry-ass French Foreign Legion pot boiler, where the commandant's wife was in love with the rebel leader, and distracted the patrol on top of the wall with a striptease, while her hero snuck over said wall and opened the gate. The projectionist ran that strip scene back and forth until the film started to overheat, and he apologized for having to stop.

    This was on the messdecks of USS Midway, CV-41, somewhere in the Pacific. Sometimes we had movies on the hangar deck, but not often. Messdecks were big enough.

    Military crowds do not coddle movies. Turkeys get hoots and hollers, plenty of talking back, etc. Best damn way to see a movie there is.

  86. you need some organization in your life... by mookoz · · Score: 1

    ...if you're so far behind on a project that you have to bring a laptop and code while waiting in line for a movie.

    Of course, you're in college, so I guess it's standard procedure to lollygag until the last minute, then expect to do all the things you're normally entitled to do while crunching on a deadline.

    Sounds like a good work ethic to me!

  87. Easter by Hythlodaeus · · Score: 1

    I have visions of holy wars over the True Date of Towel Day. It just so happens I'm writing an essay right now largely dealing with the conflict in the 7th century over the proper date of Easter. I want someone centuries from now to write about the social movements spawned from the works of Douglas Adams.

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  88. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by zenyu · · Score: 1

    No, because some people's need for communication devices (doctors, for example) far, far outweighs our right to a quiet theatre.

    B*llshit! Beepers have been around for years and theaters have been holding them for doctors on call almost as long. If you are a doctor or fighter pilot or whatever either don't go to the theatre when on call or use the services. If you're at a low end place give 'em the $5 tip before the show.

    I personally think the laptop guy should have been kicked out, people with their vibrating cellphones and backlit palms are annoying enough.

    Enjoy the wireless before the film, get a good seat, and if the film sucks enough to be browsing slashdot, leave.

    Use some common sense.

  89. Re:Douglas Adams should have heeded his own advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you. I was being tongue-in-cheek. I adore Douglas Adams. I think that Douglas Adams would find it humorous that mod nazis are "protecting" him from some good natured humor. I don't think he'd want that kind of "protection".

  90. case citation by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1

    The case that I refer to is Intellectual Reserve, Inc. v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry, Inc., 75 F. Supp. 2d 1290.

  91. Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's Customers - -2. Who do you think will end up paying for all the lawyers?

  92. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Locke_CJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Doesn't it suck to be persecuted when you haven't done anything wrong? I wear a mobile phone so that I am available to people I choose to make myself available to. Since I am the only one interested in the calls I receive, I have my phone perpetually set to vibrate, thus avoiding any situation where it might be inappropiate for it to ring. I can personally come up with several reasons where I might not be expecting a call, but still want to be available in an emergency. A movie theatre is one of them. To take away my ability to receive calls in a public place because others have abused that privilege is just wrong in my book.

  93. Re:Adams again? by Prizm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Talk about unfair. I had no intention of troll'ing. I was merely writing the above comment to inquire as to just how influential Douglas Adams really was. I see a lot of fuss being over made over his death and subsequent "Days of Rememberance," yet I personally don't agree with it.

    Save the -1 scores for real trolls. I'm just not a fan of Douglas Adams, and I found his work repetative.

    Things could be worse...I could be blaspheming dilbert, right?

  94. This "posting" by ralian · · Score: 2

    Writing in regards to this posting on Linux on mainframes

    What posting? A link, people?

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  95. towel day by manofherb · · Score: 1

    April 20th should be the new "official" towel day in honor of Towlie the pot-smoking towel!

  96. Just don't forget... by vspazv · · Score: 1

    to bring a copy of The Salmon of Doubt with you so you have something to do when Jar Jar is on screen.

  97. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by cosyne · · Score: 2

    Cellular phone jammers are illegal in the USA... is anyone else up for joining me on a bill that allows (If not mandates.) jamming devices to be installed in every theatre in the country?

    What i'd rather see is a protocol to let cell phones conform to rules for the environment. Theatres and libraries could have transponders which tell the phones to switch to vibrate as long as they are in range of the transponder. Classrooms too. Airplanes could have transponders which turn the phone off and schedule it to turn back on at flight time + 15 minutes. Then there's no high power jamming intereference, doctors or whoever else _need_ to use their phones can (and trust me, if you have a heart attack you don't want your doctor be starting watching LOTR and be out of reach until s/he leaves the theatre), and people who insist on being assholes about it are still going to be assholes, but there wasnt much you could do about that anyways.

    While we're at it, do any of the new plam/phones have ringer control in the scheduling, so i can hit a checkbox on an appointment and the phone switches to vibrate for that hour and then back when it's over? And do any phones have vibrate VIBRATE ring RING modes? and if not, why the fuck not?

  98. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Snoopy77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What is wrong with me setting my phone to 'Silent' so that when I receive a call only I know about it. Reaching for my phone is no different to reaching for some more popcorn and getting up and leaving to take the call is no different to getting up to take a piss.

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  99. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by iainl · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry to break it to you, but a cinema isn't a public place. Its a privately owned building that the company lets you into in exchange for cash. If they want mobile phones banned then thats up to them, just as I can tell you to not come in my house during a film with your phone turned on too.

    You're also well within your rights to insist on only going to cinemas where they don't enforce this mobile ban, and let capitalism do its thing, but there you go.

    Short answer; the worst thing about telling people they are doing wrong is when they refuse to see it that way.

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  100. UK cinemas = no mobile phone reception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't gt mobile phone reception in cinemas in London UK.

    I don't know if this is done by active jamming or by passively blocking the signals, but it works, and works well in cinemas on this side of the pond.

  101. Re:Adams again? by Mikoca · · Score: 1

    I am sorry but my personal observations contradict your opinion. A lot of people I know with broad and profound literary education can definitely appreciate why the Guide is a unique and profound book in its own late 20th century way.

  102. Re:Adams again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well it depends there.

    HHGTTG is great but the sequels SUX0R BADLY.

    It happens to many writers (even Lucas with StarWars and sequels).

    Suppose the guy just happened to read a sequel...

    +5 Insightful

  103. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    So don't go to this theater when on-call, or just go to a different theater. Duh! Maybe I should bring my performing monkey troupe to the theater...I mean I have to make a living somehow...why is The Man putting me down!?

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  104. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Storm+Damage · · Score: 1

    I know people who leave their phone on silent and vibrate for an entirely different reason....

  105. Re:Adams again? by jd142 · · Score: 2

    It depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for British humor of a "wacky" vein, try Robert Rankin. For a little less wacky and a little less style, there's Tom Holt. Of the two, I prefer Rankin. I would say that if you like the non sequiter, bizarre happenings style of Adams, then go with Rankin. The characters aren't as three dimensional, they appear to be along for the ride and there just to be funny.

    There's always Pratchett of course if you like British humor. His books are a mix of humor and character development. If you want something with just a lot of jokes and not much characterization, get one of the Discworld books with Rincewind in it.

    For pure lunacy, there's always Wodehouse.

  106. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by eMilkshake · · Score: 1
    Doctors, for example, could leave their device with a cell check girl in a non-jammed area and get a tag. When the device rings/buzzes/jumps, they display the number in the lower-right hand corner of the screen. This isn't rocket science.

    Btw, how often is a doctor called when off-duty? Sure, I can image drug interactions and high-risk pregnanant women needing their specific doctor, but in general?

  107. Re:Adams again? by fdisk3hs · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So stay out of our Love-Fest! If you don't like him, shut up :) But the judge will have to give you the same leeway when you are questioning the witnesses...

  108. I got it... by ogar572 · · Score: 0

    Macromedia's new slogan....If you can't beat them, sue them!!!

  109. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by ogar572 · · Score: 0

    I agree with G-funk. This is why. A loved one of yours need some immediate surgery and the only doctor around to do this type of surgery is in the movie theatre watching (Insert one of your favorite movies here) but he does not get the page/call until he leaves the theatre and your loved one is dead. You are also telling me that a doctor cannot live a normal life, like going to the movies. So tell me, what is more important then, jamming signals coming into theatres so things like this can happen, or putting up with the seat next to you vibrating for 5 seconds so the guy next to you can save a life.

  110. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by SilkBD · · Score: 1, Troll

    Doctors and certain other professions are ALWAYS on call. Do you suggest that they should never be allowed to view a movie in public?

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  111. Wireless Spiderman? by telstar · · Score: 2

    I was always under the impression that Spiderman needed the wires to fly.

  112. Useless "rebuttal" by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This response fits into an annoying category that we see quite a bit on Slashdot: 'I don't have the same interests and ideas as you, so I'm going to go through your post point by point and explain that your ideas have alternatives and detractors and are therefore invalid.'

    For Christ's sake, the poster listed a dozen possible uses for a new technology, some of which are personally interesting to me and some of which are not. Pointing out alternatives does not negate the creativity of the poster.

    Perhaps you had this exchange in the early 90's:

    Internet? Who needs it?

    I can send email to my relatives!
    Why email when you can call or fax?

    I can do my banking online!
    Why not just do it on the phone or in person?

    I can check movie times online!
    Why not just call the theater or look in the paper?

    I know you're tempted to go through my examples and rebutt each one by pointing out why the sample online activities are actually better than the alternatives provided. Go on, you know you want to.

    The only thing more exciting about technology than emerging capabilities is the creativity and imagination that leads to more USES for those capabilities. When someone proposes new uses, you are free to embrace them or not. Taking the time to point out that you personally would not do each and every one is a waste of time and makes you sound like a close-minded philistine.

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    1. Re:Useless "rebuttal" by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure I see any good use for a laptop in a normal theater. But I did like the idea about the audience-driven content. If this could be done with a low-light handheld device, I could see this as a very popular system: the audience can choose the course of the story (does the guy die, does the girl get nekit, etc.) I would not be at all surprised to see this happen in the near future. I don't think this idea sucks ass.

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    2. Re:Useless "rebuttal" by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      The difference of course being that all of your situations and alternatives apply to and affect only one person. If you're in a private screening with just your firends, by all means type away at a laptop while you watch the movie. However, as a movie goer, I would prefer you don't do it while I'm there. The same applies to cell phones at concerts. I'm a big fan of cell phones, but taking them to a concert and leaving them on (unless you are a doctor on 24 hour call) is just plain rude.

      Speaking from an audience members stand point, it (either the laptop in a theater or cellphones) is distracting, and detracts from the experience.

      Speaking from a performer's standpoint, we hate it. We put a lot of time and effort into what we do, and if you're going to come see us, than give us your undivided attention. If you want to surf the net, order merchendise etc etc etc, do it on your own time, not ours.

      Technology has it's uses and it's places. Just as you would not bring a stereo to a musical or a play, you don't bring a laptop to a movie.

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  113. Re:Then am I to understand there's been a towlie-b by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1

    "I'm afraid his brain is no longer in 'mint-condition'" -- Comic Book Guy

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  114. Google and Deep Linking by zylinder4 · · Score: 1

    So how does this "Deep Linking" affect search engines like google? When I want to know about a story, I punch it in google, and get "Deep Linked" the stories I'm looking for. (Geez...I never knew my actions were so ominous. I feel pretty Secret-Agent Sly doing all this Deep Linking :) )

    But seriously...this is disturbing. Now that the most natural and fundamental concept has an ominous name, it can't be long before someone really tries to make it illegal.

    Realistically, the web content available on the net is basically useless without "Deep Linking." Whether we are talking about Google's spiders crawling and categorizing everything available publically, or the more sophisticated but less efficient data mining of a forum sharing links to content of community interest, these "Deep Link" collections are the lifeblood of the Internet.

    2 years ago, I never would have worried that this would become regulated. Now, I'm not so sure.

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  115. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1

    As long as you have it on vibrate and actually leave to take the call, there's no problem. It's the people that actually answer and say "Hey, I'm at the movies. Yeah, Spider-Man. Yup it's really cool. Ooh, he just did that thing...yeah, that thing! Hey are we meeting at Fuddruckers later? Cool. Bye." Now THAT'S annoying.

  116. Jamming not necessary... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

    Since theaters will probably be digital eventually, I propose a system by which the movie can be made to pause if anyone in the audience receives a phone call. This way, important audience members can receive their phone calls, and other viewers will not miss any of the movie.

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  117. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by ShmuelP · · Score: 1

    Hear, hear! Great suggestions.

    Motorola StarTacs (at least my 7868) has a "vibrate then ring" mode. I presume that most Motorolas have a similar option.

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  118. Towel Day 2002 is May 25 by dclydew · · Score: 1

    Greeting DA fans,

    A year ago, I wrote the article that made Towel Day a reality. This is the original story. There is a wrap up of Towel Day here.

    This year, Towel Day is again on May 25th. The new story is here.

    We are inviting anyone who would like to write an essay on Towel Day and Douglas Adams, to submit them to us and we'll get them posted on http://towelday.org

    That gives everyone about a week and a half to prepare for this memorial event.

    D. Clyde Williamson

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  119. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by RadioTV · · Score: 1

    Normally (especially at smaller or private hospitals) one doctor will make all decisions about a patents care. There are also some doctors (usually very specialized surgeons) who are always on call.

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  120. Annoying Noises In A Theatre by Petersko · · Score: 2

    I wear a pager 24/7 roughly 40 weeks per year. I can't wait two hours to respond to a page.

    All of you morons who think I should "stay out of a theatre" as a result, well...

    If you have any of the following:

    1 - Crunchy Food
    2 - Overly Loud Laugh
    3 - A Tendency To Whisper To Your Compatriot
    4 - Body Odor

    ...I guarantee you've annoyed more people than I ever have. YOU should stay the hell out.

  121. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Chelloveck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some people are on-call 24x7x52. And others (like me) would prefer that the babysitter can get ahold of us if something dire should happen. Of course, my phone is left on vibrate and I'd leave the theater before answering. Anyone not considerate to do likewise deserves exile to the Saturday Matinee.

    I agree that laptops, PDAs, and the like should be turned off during the movie. They may not be loud, but the light is surely going to bother everyone behind you.

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  122. Well duh. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1
    "After being slashdotted and geekaustin'd and touted for being the first theater with wireless access .... I went to see Spider-Man tonight at the Alamo Drafthouse North in Austin. Apparently you can't have 'electronic devices on' during the feature. I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"

    And I am sure that you didn't have a digital cam attached to that laptop either.

  123. What do do in line for the movie by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 2

    Practice getting everybody to say "whop" at the same time.

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  124. Better than... by huckda · · Score: 1

    the know-it-all-Lord of the Rings-guru-wannabe sitting next to me with his girlfriend explaining every damn scene to her, it's historical relevance and what each character had eaten for lunch that day, as well as when they went to the bathroom and what toilet paper they prefer to wipe with.

    Bitter? Nah...just pissed off that assholes like that can't wait for the bloody DVD to give an entire commentary DURING the freaking movie!

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  125. American Towel Day, British Towel Day by RumGunner · · Score: 1

    Looks like American Towel Day is the first Thursday after May 11, British Towel Day is May 25th.

    2 Towel Days are better than one.

  126. Ideas with group impact NEED scrutiny by Jasn · · Score: 1
    It's most certainly not a waste of time. Creativity is great, but ideas that can have adverse effects on whole communities (like a movie crowd) need their merits picked over, and asking "who the hell would do that?" could stand to be asked of much more of technology. That's the difference with your analogy; one person can bank online and another in person and they're not interdependent, so bully for both of them. I have a stake in what happens at the movies.

    It's scrutiny like this that can make [creative uses] as a variable into USES, with real merits.

    I suppose if nobody asked "Who the hell really needs a Snickers delivered to their door at 11 p.m.?" investors might still be sending bad money after good at Kozmo.

    I'm a big Drafthouse fan. Speaking as a frequent customer, the food service as it's currently practiced is distracting enough without people doing more tasks unrelated to the shared purpose of seeing the film. If I really need to hear every whisper of the dialogue, I won't see that film at the Drafthouse. It's more of a party-movie destination; films like "Snatch" and "Spider-Man" have worked really well there. Seeing "A.I.," not so much.

  127. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about people who have kids? Both my wife and myself have cell phones just so we can be contacted if something happens with our children or other family member. Granted, I put my phone on vibrate (most people should) but phone blockers could cause more harm then good.

    If it would make you happy I will turn off my cell phone and bring my 7 month old to the move so he can cry through the whole thing. Now which is the lesser of the 2 evils?

    Is your ability to watch a movie ($10 -$15) more important then my ability to be contacted in an emergency (perhaps a life)?

  128. Obviously not a hacker by cylence · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What apparently doesn't occur to you, is that there are people in this world who actually code for fun, and not only when they have a massive project due.

    There are some of us who would much prefer bringing a laptop to code on during a long wait over twiddling our fingers.

    'Course, a good technical book is perfectly adequate as well. But if you're in the midst of something fun, you're not gonna let something like a little movie stop you.

  129. Re:for everything else theres.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then go to the movies when you aren't on call, or go to one that doesn't have jammers (i don't see why all should). Doctors have no "rights" above the average citizen. They have additional "responsiblities" and "duties" because of choices they personally made in their own lives, not the other way around. Other people should not be made to suffer because of their choices. Besides, they managed before pagers and cellphones, are they less capable now? Even with the pagers and cellphones i've seen them take hours to respond. WTF?

    Or the devil's advocate response...
    Then lets use cellphones in hospitals, some peoples need for communication devices (military personel, for example) far, far outweighs our right to a safe hospital.

  130. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by orb · · Score: 1

    I didn't know they are illegal, but it is a good thing. I don't think anyone should have the right to restrict your communication like that.

  131. Re:The One True Date by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It shouldn't matter what the True Date of Towel Day is. You should always have your towel with you anyways...

    You do, right?

  132. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Kintanon · · Score: 2

    So, you're telling me you would be annoyed if the persons vibrating pager/cellphone went off and they left the theatre to answer it, but it would be A-OK if some girl came into the theatre and wandered around looking for some specific person in the dark to tell them they had a phone call so they could then get up and go answer it?
    I'm confused...

    Kintanon

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  133. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's an auditorium in town here that has come up with a nice compromise. Cellphones/pagers are not allowed in the theater, but you can leave your phone or pager at a desk where they make note of your seat number. If the phone rings they answer it and take a message, or take down the number/message on the pager, and if it is urgent they bring you the message at an appropriate point in the performance (between musical pieces, during intermission, etc). Works pretty well; allows those who NEED to be reachable to remain so, without interrupting everyone else's enjoyment.

  134. Mod up parent!!! by Zalgon+26+McGee · · Score: 1

    Vicious, violent, yet holds an element of truth.

    (not that I'd endorse such a thing...)

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  135. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 1

    You don't have ANY idea how people solved this problem before the age of cellphones, do you? Give the babysitter phonenumbers to the places you are going to.

  136. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by eMilkshake · · Score: 1

    Uhm, what did my post say? I believe it said, put a small number in the lower corner of the screen. I think that would be tons less annoying than a ringing, yes. Or, have people w/o vibrating devices exchange for a vibrating device like restaurants do.

  137. Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! by Kintanon · · Score: 2

    I think the vibrating device solution is already perfectly viable. Theatres just need to make it clear that anyone causing a disturbance WILL be removed. Me and my wife had to have a couple of parents with a small crying child kicked out of Spiderman because they refused to either shut the kid up or take it outside voluntarily. But the theatre management was very nice about it.

    Kintanon

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