It's a substance that terminates the threads. I can't remember the name. It roughly works the way that on each cell division, less of the material is left on the DNA strands, and when the remainder is gone, the DNA strands will be destroyed. In theory, depositing more should be enough to prolong life to extreme levels, but I suspect you'd run into other problems as well... Also, it wouldn't prevent dementia of different types, nor cancer etc.
Isn't that Telomers? Also, I remember some bio-tech corp a few years ago that was working on regrowing nerves and braincells in mammals using some kind of chemical found in starfish.... Didn't hear anything about it after that though. So I don't know if they had any luck, I kind of doubt it though.
Hmm, has anyone ever read any of the spin-offs of Assimov's 'I, Robot' and 'Robot's of Dawn', specifically one called 'Changeling' (I think). It talked about the embedding of a positronic brain into an infiniately maleable substance so that the brain could define what it's body was.
Those things could be extremely interesting if the software could modify the hardware to accomplish its goal. Imagine, Linux decides it needs more CPU cycles, and more RAM, so it gets to work redesigning your motherboard for you. You open the case up a few weeks later to see some kind of shimmery silver blob where your motherboard was, and your PC is running at 25Ghz, with 100TB of RAM! >:) Sounds like fun.
I will never feel ethically obligated to keep any piece of electronic equipment operating, even if it is "intelligent."
Ok. Think for a few minutes about what runs the human body. Hmmm... Electricity... Uhoh... Looks like we are all just a bunch of poorly designed and rather stupid robots. Guess I can unplug you with impunity...
Umm, what the guy was doing was ILLEGAL. And in poor taste, but that's subjective. Stealing doesn't really 'hurt' anyone, but it's still wrong.Any number of crimes don't really 'hurt' anyone. Also, children aren't designed to be participating in sex acts, that's what puberty is for. If you aren't CAPABLE of sex, then you definately don't need to be having it.
It is not the job of US citizens to improve the civilization of every third world country on earth. They should get their collective asses in gear and develop a civilization on their own. So what if it takes them 70 or 100 years to become an industrialized nation? It's not our responsibility to baby them into the technology age, or even provide food and shelter to them. Go bitch at their government.
Get your facts straight. Homosexuality is a natural form of population control. If you overpopulate a rat cage they start becoming homosexual pretty quick. War and disease are 2 other methods, but all things being equal I think I prefer having homosexuals around to shooting at each other and getting ebola.
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However, the FBI has absolutely no e-mail address from their page for contacting them concerning job openings. They have a crime report form, but no e-mail address. How odd.
I wonder if this means the FBI might be in the market for some 'puter Savvy folks like us? And would accepting a job like that be selling out? Is it ethical to assist in the prevention of certain 'crimes' if you don't believe they are crimes? What kind of penalties would there be if you claimed you were unable to crack a system because you believed the information it held should be legal? How much do you think the FBI would be willing to pay? I wonder if they would outsource to a consulting company...
You reapeatedly tell me you're not a racist, and I sincerely hope you're not. I have no reason to believe one way or another until you prove otherwise. I am able to say, however, that you are sheltered from the malignancy of racism in a way in which I don't think any amount of my trying to explain will ever make you understand. I don't know if you've ever been followed around a store because the owner thinks you're going to steal, but I have. I don't know if you've ever been told "my, but you speak so well!" by some surprised person who assumes that you shouldn't be able because of the color of your skin, but I have. Racism won't go away just because you choose to ignore it.
Yes, and Yes.
I'm from the south, I have long hair and dress in blue jeans and t-shirts. If I'm walking around the mall late at night after a movie I get trailed around the mall by security guards. I recently moved to baltimore, some people realize I'm from the south and immediately say, 'But you speak so clearly!'
So what's your point? Almost all young people get followed around by cops, and if you go anywhere that has a different dialect then people are going to marvel if you don't speak the way they percieve people where you are from to speak. This is NOT helped by the number of black people who can not, or do not, enunciate words. It also isn't helped by the number of southern people with heavy southern accents, or the number of Bostonians with that northern whatever it is. That isn't exactly racism.
Racism is 6 black kids yelling, 'White muther fucker! I'm gonna kill yo' ass!' while they kick the shit out of one of my friends while none of us were around. Stop pretending that racism is all one way against black people. It isn't. And I promise you that if you put a mix of small children of all different races into a room they won't care what color anyone is.
HOW the HELL is a test going to be racially biased if you don't know the race of the person taking it?! Give me an example of a Racist question that could be asked in the US that someone couldn't be reasonably expected to know the answer to. I can't think of any.
Rich people buy more stuff. The more stuff they buy the more jobs there have to be to support that. The more jobs there are the smaller the labor pool is and the more workers must be paid to continue working at a place.
It seems like Rich people seem to be plenty useful... Of course, the rest of the population does the same thing, on a smaller scale. The common man isn't exactly going to fuel the Yachting industry, or Porsche...
Now, let's say some workers start a business, it is extremely succesfull, they become very wealthy. Are they then evil now?
You seem to forget that a lot of people who are wealthy now weren't wealthy 50 years ago, or 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago. Why do people like you keep insisting that greed is a bad thing? Everyone is motivated by greed. There isn't a worker on the planet that is doing his job ONLY because he wants to.
Also, it isn't that difficult for workers to start their own businesses. Why gee, look how many independant resteraunts there are... Any business where the owner also works on the product is a worker owned business.
But any succesfull worker owned business quickly grows too large to be managed from the plant floor. How can someone know what's going on, how much money is being made, where it is being spent, etc... if they are busy all day building widgets?
Gee, the stark logic of your argument has defeated me, I guess I should find the nearest black person and give them my every worldly posession because my some odd great grandfather owned slaves. Of course, that's only logical...
Wow, I didn't know you were psychic... I guess you can just dictate to me what I do and do not think, you can just declare me a racist and that's that. I wonder what you are basing that on? I really can't say I care if you personally believe anything I say. But for my own peace of mind, I am equally afraid of all varieties of crackheads.
So why were the stupid enough to start a family they couldn't support? I refuse to pay for anyone elses idiocy if I can find a way around it. Condoms aren't that fucking expensive.
Aren't the ones in schools and community centers after hours the ones who are already escaping? They have found a way to learn and have the desire, they don't need our help anymore. Wouldn't it be the ones who say, 'Fuck you!' that need our help most??
Ok, first of all, SOME slaves were treated well. MOST slaves were not, but some were.
Second, the point most of us are trying to make is that if people no longer bring up racial differences then people will forget about and ignore them.
Third, Racial violence is NOT a one way street. I spoke of an incident at my own high school were a white boy was hospitalized by 6 black boys, the black boys were not punished, the white boy was.
Fourth: Thirty years ago a lot of things were legal that aren't now, and a lot of things were illegal that aren't now. In 30 more years Racism will almost certainly have died out and vanished because people are not longer being taugh to be racist. My grandfather was one racist mutha, he would bitch about 'Niggers' all day long if you'd listen. My dad was mildly racist, in that he would usually avoid contact with black people. I'm not racist at all in that I don't give a shit what color you are. BUT, I am paranoid, so if I see some guy dressed in leather with 2 nose rings, scars on his hands and face, and a wild look in his eye I don't care what color he is I'm going to assume he wants to kill me for no apparent reason.
At the moment it is legal and encouraged to pass over qualified white candidates in favor of equally or less qualified black candidates. Do you believe this is not a racist practice? Racism is the judging of a person based on the color of their skin. Racism is NOT defined as being prejudiced against Blacks. That is a form of racism, but being prejudiced against any group based on skin color is racist.
despite the fact that only 12% of the US population is black. 96.5 % of those tried for crack cocaine charges are minorities, although 2/3rd of all crack cocaine users are white.
Anyone care to get some numbers validating this statistic? I find it kind of hard to believe that everyone should be bending over backwards to please 12% of the population... Heck, I imagine 12% of the population is also Short... But no one is going out of there way to make sure that 12% of the players in the NBA are short...
Let me rephrase, no one is Actively opressing ONLY black people. The government is shafting all of us. And perpetuating racist dogma to keep the people from uniting and destroying it.
I find your statement to be racist and offensive. No one is allowed to express any negative inclinations along racial lines. It's not nice.
Lemme think here... Middle Ages... Serfs... Born into poverty... never knew anything better... Violent revolution... I'd say that one way or another poor folk who want to get a better life will. And they don't need a handout from some yuppy geek that wants to make himself feel better.
Umm, Where did I say the word Black?? A massive chunk of the people in Baltimore are white, a proportionate number of white people live in the inner city and ghetto of Baltimore. 999 out of 1000 of those people would knife a wealthy looking person of any race who was walking alone through the streets. I think the fact that you just assumed I was talking about black people says a lot about your own racist attitude. I'm equally afraid of getting knifed by a strung out white crackhead as a strung out black crackhead if I go into downtown baltimore after 5pm.
As long as the high-tech industry has people in it who believe that 99.9% of all black kids are thieves, anyone who says this is a non-racist business has his cracker head so far up his ass that that he's probably browner than the people he hates so much.
I really pity this idiot, but his attitude is not uncommon, and that's why there aren't more blacks in this business. Putting up with crackers like this is stomach turning. Would you want to be white and work next to this guy's black equivalent? And you wonder why so few blacks get into computers. Open your eyes a little and maybe you'll figure it out.
I'll assume from the Baltimore Ghetto line that this was directed at me.
Okay, not sure where the hell that came from. The Baltimore ghetto line is directed at noone - since I live exceedingly close to one it seemed as good an example as anything. Feel free to s/baltimore/$your_city/g.
However I never said anything about anyone being able to build/program from a complete lack of knowledge. That's why you don't see a lot of 4 year old sysadmins.
But that was the point the original person made - that 'if they can't afford it, they can just build it themselves' - poor people who've never seen a computer _have_ a complete lack of knowledge on the subject. Therefore that person's argument was crap.
Ok, sorry about that misunderstanding. I used the Baltimore Ghetto line a while back because I also live fairly near Baltimore. From the similarity of the phrases I just assumed it was directed at me.>:)
You are either a blithering idiot, or you completely misunderstand me. I want everyone in this country to have equal opportunity, not standing... that does not exist right now. And I believe our tax dollars should go towards mending our mistakes in the past. And I want people like you to understand why these were mistakes.
This is where you are screwing up. You can send your money wherever you want to. BUT as soon as you start dictating where MY money should go I start getting pissed. What if I believed 'our' tax dollars should go towards teaching Dolphins sign language? would you let me just drag another 50$ a week out of your paycheck for it?
I understand that slavery was bad, and slavery was wrong and that slavery never should have happened. But Get a CLUE Slavery was not INVENTED in America. Africans sold each other into slavery for guns so they could kill their neighbors. They had been practicing slavery for centuries before we ever caught onto it. If I personally find out I have opressed someone I will apologize to that person and attempt to right my wrong. BUT, I'm not going to reimburse someone just because my great great great grandfather owned his great great great grandfather.
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It's a substance that terminates the threads. I can't remember the name. It roughly works the way that on each cell division, less of the material is left on the DNA strands, and when the remainder is gone, the DNA strands will be destroyed. In theory, depositing more should be enough to prolong life to extreme levels, but I suspect you'd run into other problems as well... Also, it wouldn't prevent dementia of different types, nor cancer etc.
Isn't that Telomers?
Also, I remember some bio-tech corp a few years ago that was working on regrowing nerves and braincells in mammals using some kind of chemical found in starfish.... Didn't hear anything about it after that though. So I don't know if they had any luck, I kind of doubt it though.
Kintanon
Hmm, has anyone ever read any of the spin-offs of Assimov's 'I, Robot' and 'Robot's of Dawn', specifically one called 'Changeling' (I think). It talked about the embedding of a positronic brain into an infiniately maleable substance so that the brain could define what it's body was.
Those things could be extremely interesting if the software could modify the hardware to accomplish its goal. Imagine, Linux decides it needs more CPU cycles, and more RAM, so it gets to work redesigning your motherboard for you. You open the case up a few weeks later to see some kind of shimmery silver blob where your motherboard was, and your PC is running at 25Ghz, with 100TB of RAM! >:) Sounds like fun.
Kintanon
I will never feel ethically obligated to keep any piece of electronic equipment operating, even if it is "intelligent."
Ok. Think for a few minutes about what runs the human body. Hmmm... Electricity... Uhoh... Looks like we are all just a bunch of poorly designed and rather stupid robots. Guess I can unplug you with impunity...
Kintanon
Umm, what the guy was doing was ILLEGAL. And in poor taste, but that's subjective. Stealing doesn't really 'hurt' anyone, but it's still wrong.Any number of crimes don't really 'hurt' anyone. Also, children aren't designed to be participating in sex acts, that's what puberty is for. If you aren't CAPABLE of sex, then you definately don't need to be having it.
Kintanon
It is not the job of US citizens to improve the civilization of every third world country on earth. They should get their collective asses in gear and develop a civilization on their own. So what if it takes them 70 or 100 years to become an industrialized nation? It's not our responsibility to baby them into the technology age, or even provide food and shelter to them. Go bitch at their government.
Kintanon
Get your facts straight. Homosexuality is a natural form of population control. If you overpopulate a rat cage they start becoming homosexual pretty quick. War and disease are 2 other methods, but all things being equal I think I prefer having homosexuals around to shooting at each other and getting ebola.
Kintanon
Christians too, you can hate christians without any other groups coming after you.
Kintanon
I hit the FBI.gov page and found this:
The I.T. environment at the FBI: It's not what you expect. In a world that is changing by the second, FBI information technologies solve ever-increasing challenges more intelligently, and at higher levels. So do the skilled professionals who provide the vision and the human intelligence. We invite you to join them at our headquarters in Washington, D.C.
Computer Science & Engineering Professionals:
Computer Scientists
Computer Specialists
Computer Specialists (Programmer)
Computer Specialists (Systems Analyst)
Electronics Engineer
Telecommunications Managers
High priority technologies...and compensation.
Equally as high profile as our I.T. impact are the compensation packages we offer. They are highly competitive, recognizing the unique expertise of today's brightest technical leaders. Consider:
Salaries up to $125,900
Sign-on bonuses available to those who qualify
Excellent group health & life insurance plans
Vacation & sick pay
Comprehensive retirement plan
However, the FBI has absolutely no e-mail address from their page for contacting them concerning job openings. They have a crime report form, but no e-mail address. How odd.
Kintanon
I wonder if this means the FBI might be in the market for some 'puter Savvy folks like us? And would accepting a job like that be selling out? Is it ethical to assist in the prevention of certain 'crimes' if you don't believe they are crimes? What kind of penalties would there be if you claimed you were unable to crack a system because you believed the information it held should be legal? How much do you think the FBI would be willing to pay? I wonder if they would outsource to a consulting company...
Kintanon
You reapeatedly tell me you're not a racist, and I sincerely hope you're not. I have no reason to believe one way or another until you prove otherwise. I am able to say, however, that you are sheltered from the malignancy of racism in a way in which I don't think any amount of my trying to explain will ever make you understand. I don't know if you've ever been followed around a store because the owner thinks you're going to steal, but I have. I don't know if you've ever been told "my, but you speak so well!" by some surprised person who assumes that you shouldn't be able because of the color of your skin, but I have. Racism won't go away just because you choose to ignore it.
Yes, and Yes.
I'm from the south, I have long hair and dress in blue jeans and t-shirts. If I'm walking around the mall late at night after a movie I get trailed around the mall by security guards. I recently moved to baltimore, some people realize I'm from the south and immediately say, 'But you speak so clearly!'
So what's your point? Almost all young people get followed around by cops, and if you go anywhere that has a different dialect then people are going to marvel if you don't speak the way they percieve people where you are from to speak.
This is NOT helped by the number of black people who can not, or do not, enunciate words. It also isn't helped by the number of southern people with heavy southern accents, or the number of Bostonians with that northern whatever it is.
That isn't exactly racism.
Racism is 6 black kids yelling, 'White muther fucker! I'm gonna kill yo' ass!' while they kick the shit out of one of my friends while none of us were around. Stop pretending that racism is all one way against black people. It isn't. And I promise you that if you put a mix of small children of all different races into a room they won't care what color anyone is.
Kintanon
HOW the HELL is a test going to be racially biased if you don't know the race of the person taking it?! Give me an example of a Racist question that could be asked in the US that someone couldn't be reasonably expected to know the answer to. I can't think of any.
Kintanon
Correct, Wealth != Virtue.
However, Wealth == Spending Power.
Rich people buy more stuff. The more stuff they buy the more jobs there have to be to support that. The more jobs there are the smaller the labor pool is and the more workers must be paid to continue working at a place.
It seems like Rich people seem to be plenty useful... Of course, the rest of the population does the same thing, on a smaller scale. The common man isn't exactly going to fuel the Yachting industry, or Porsche...
Now, let's say some workers start a business, it is extremely succesfull, they become very wealthy. Are they then evil now?
You seem to forget that a lot of people who are wealthy now weren't wealthy 50 years ago, or 20 years ago, or even 5 years ago. Why do people like you keep insisting that greed is a bad thing? Everyone is motivated by greed. There isn't a worker on the planet that is doing his job ONLY because he wants to.
Also, it isn't that difficult for workers to start their own businesses. Why gee, look how many independant resteraunts there are... Any business where the owner also works on the product is a worker owned business.
But any succesfull worker owned business quickly grows too large to be managed from the plant floor. How can someone know what's going on, how much money is being made, where it is being spent, etc... if they are busy all day building widgets?
Kintanon
Gee, the stark logic of your argument has defeated me, I guess I should find the nearest black person and give them my every worldly posession because my some odd great grandfather owned slaves. Of course, that's only logical...
Kintanon
Wow, I didn't know you were psychic...
I guess you can just dictate to me what I do and do not think, you can just declare me a racist and that's that. I wonder what you are basing that on? I really can't say I care if you personally believe anything I say. But for my own peace of mind, I am equally afraid of all varieties of crackheads.
Kintanon
So why were the stupid enough to start a family they couldn't support? I refuse to pay for anyone elses idiocy if I can find a way around it.
Condoms aren't that fucking expensive.
Kintanon
Aren't the ones in schools and community centers after hours the ones who are already escaping? They have found a way to learn and have the desire, they don't need our help anymore. Wouldn't it be the ones who say, 'Fuck you!' that need our help most??
Kintanon
Ok, first of all, SOME slaves were treated well. MOST slaves were not, but some were.
Second, the point most of us are trying to make is that if people no longer bring up racial differences then people will forget about and ignore them.
Third, Racial violence is NOT a one way street. I spoke of an incident at my own high school were a white boy was hospitalized by 6 black boys, the black boys were not punished, the white boy was.
Fourth: Thirty years ago a lot of things were legal that aren't now, and a lot of things were illegal that aren't now. In 30 more years Racism will almost certainly have died out and vanished because people are not longer being taugh to be racist. My grandfather was one racist mutha, he would bitch about 'Niggers' all day long if you'd listen. My dad was mildly racist, in that he would usually avoid contact with black people. I'm not racist at all in that I don't give a shit what color you are. BUT, I am paranoid, so if I see some guy dressed in leather with 2 nose rings, scars on his hands and face, and a wild look in his eye I don't care what color he is I'm going to assume he wants to kill me for no apparent reason.
At the moment it is legal and encouraged to pass over qualified white candidates in favor of equally or less qualified black candidates. Do you believe this is not a racist practice?
Racism is the judging of a person based on the color of their skin.
Racism is NOT defined as being prejudiced against Blacks.
That is a form of racism, but being prejudiced against any group based on skin color is racist.
Kintanon
despite the fact that only 12% of the US population is black. 96.5 % of those tried for crack cocaine charges are minorities, although 2/3rd of all crack cocaine users are white.
Anyone care to get some numbers validating this statistic? I find it kind of hard to believe that everyone should be bending over backwards to please 12% of the population... Heck, I imagine 12% of the population is also Short... But no one is going out of there way to make sure that 12% of the players in the NBA are short...
Kintanon
No one is actively opressing black people.
No, they're only oppressing you.
Let me rephrase, no one is Actively opressing ONLY black people. The government is shafting all of us. And perpetuating racist dogma to keep the people from uniting and destroying it.
Kintanon
I find your statement to be racist and offensive.
No one is allowed to express any negative inclinations along racial lines. It's not nice.
Lemme think here... Middle Ages... Serfs... Born into poverty... never knew anything better... Violent revolution... I'd say that one way or another poor folk who want to get a better life will. And they don't need a handout from some yuppy geek that wants to make himself feel better.
Kintanon
Umm, Where did I say the word Black?? A massive chunk of the people in Baltimore are white, a proportionate number of white people live in the inner city and ghetto of Baltimore. 999 out of 1000 of those people would knife a wealthy looking person of any race who was walking alone through the streets. I think the fact that you just assumed I was talking about black people says a lot about your own racist attitude.
I'm equally afraid of getting knifed by a strung out white crackhead as a strung out black crackhead if I go into downtown baltimore after 5pm.
As long as the high-tech industry has people in it who believe that 99.9% of all black kids are thieves, anyone who says this is a non-racist business has his cracker head so far up his ass that that he's probably browner than the people he hates so much.
I really pity this idiot, but his attitude is not uncommon, and that's why there aren't more blacks in this business. Putting up with crackers like this is stomach turning. Would you want to be white and work next to this guy's black equivalent? And you wonder why so few blacks get into computers. Open your eyes a little and maybe you'll figure it out.
Kintanon
I'll assume from the Baltimore Ghetto line that this was directed at me.
Okay, not sure where the hell that came from. The Baltimore ghetto line is directed at noone - since I live exceedingly close to one it seemed as good an example as anything. Feel free to s/baltimore/$your_city/g.
However I never said anything about anyone being able to build/program from a complete lack of knowledge. That's why you don't see a lot of 4 year old sysadmins.
But that was the point the original person made - that 'if they can't afford it, they can just build it themselves' - poor people who've never seen a computer _have_ a complete lack of knowledge on the subject. Therefore that person's argument was crap.
Ok, sorry about that misunderstanding. I used the Baltimore Ghetto line a while back because I also live fairly near Baltimore. From the similarity of the phrases I just assumed it was directed at me.>:)
Kintanon
You are either a blithering idiot, or you completely misunderstand me. I want everyone in this country to have equal opportunity, not standing... that does not exist right now. And I believe our tax dollars should go towards mending our mistakes in the past. And I want people like you to understand why these were mistakes.
This is where you are screwing up. You can send your money wherever you want to. BUT as soon as you start dictating where MY money should go I start getting pissed. What if I believed 'our' tax dollars should go towards teaching Dolphins sign language? would you let me just drag another 50$ a week out of your paycheck for it?
I understand that slavery was bad, and slavery was wrong and that slavery never should have happened. But Get a CLUE Slavery was not INVENTED in America. Africans sold each other into slavery for guns so they could kill their neighbors. They had been practicing slavery for centuries before we ever caught onto it. If I personally find out I have opressed someone I will apologize to that person and attempt to right my wrong. BUT, I'm not going to reimburse someone just because my great great great grandfather owned his great great great grandfather.
Kintanon
Please reference my post concerning the true owners of the US.
Kintanon
Please reference my post concerning the true owners of the US.