Let's be clear here: Obama is not, and will not be remembered as the worst president ever - nor as the worst in recent history.
Dood, I wouldn't be so sure of that -- sure, he's got competition from Bush #2, #1, Reagan and Clinton (the four neocons preceding neocon Obama --- and let's not parse words, these ain't neolibs, they ARE ALL NEOCONS!) --- but Obama HAS continued and expanded upon Bush's policies, increased foreign assassinations by UAVs, "preemptively" arrested anti-war activists and community organizers, appointed the most neocon-ridden administration possible (Wall Street lobbyists, Monsanto lobbyists, pharmaceutical industry lobbyists, etc., etc.), and, oh yeah, been awarded the Nobel Prize for liberating pollution! (Actually, the Swedish Central Bank's International Prize in Economics in Memory of Nobel)
....I love it whenever these douchebaggers who aren't capable of locating their own vaginas claim that Obama's some kind of "centrist" ---- like in China they "preemptively" arrest activists and community organizers. Like in Myanmar they "preemptively" arrest activists and community organizers. Like in Bahrain they "preemptively" arrest activists and community organizers.
Like in Bush's, and now Obama's, Amerika they "preemptively" arrest acitivists and community organizers....... 'Nuff said.
....and so many of those characters involved in attempting to extradite Assange are financially connected to the Bonnier family??? (And the Brits should be focusing on extraditing the Murdoch family, given everything coming out about their knowledge and collusion with all that cellphone spying!)
...the Swedish Central Bank was also a recipient of some of that $16.1 trillion spewed forth from the Fed (thanks to GAO audit), and Carl Bildt was a director at Lundin Petroleum when those massacres were taking place in Sudan (moving people off of the oil-rich lands they lived on, etc.). Plenty of reasons, not even counting DoD contracts to Swedish defense firms, for pressure from the USA.
Huh....have/.ers gone completely 'tard???? Asking this clown, Kevin Kelly of "the New Economy" bilge awhile back....and that crazy piece he did on searching for God in Amerika????? This guy is the ultimate douchebagger, for chrissakes????
Gee whiz, now how many offices has Fed Ex recently closed around the country (hundreds, I believe)? How many summers have the movie theaters consecutively lost money in America (the last four, I believe)? How many consecutive quarters has Walmart experienced dropping revenues (the last seven, I believe)?
It's called offshoring the production assets and offshoring the capital assets ---- are people really still clueless about this??????? I.e., there is NO ECONOMY, and since there's NO MEDIA, you'll have to do the arithmetic on your own.
Why should that be astonishing since the media in America is essentially controlled by one or two corporations today (technically 5, but since they collude so much it really comes to to primarily GE and Murdoch or Clear Channel).
America has Narus boxes at strategic switching centers and EPs or IXPs (physical points of concentrated ISPs connections) while Narus (a Boeing subsidiary, along with Extreme Rendition Airlines -- Jeppesen DataPlan) opened offices in China back in 2005, so I'd imagine a similar situation exists there, also the Chinese government charges retail sites which offer free wi-fi for installing Web tracking software to track their individual users.
Furthermore, I hear they exchange information with one another on their "dissidents" --- yup, any differences between the Totalitarian Capitalist State of China, and the Corporate Fascist State of America are quickly disappearing.
..grammed. Listen, I appreciate you can hear, and without ever cognitive reflection taking place, repeat what you've head.
Now let's examine the facts, shall we? American-based multinationals have offshored the jobs, the technology, the US foreign aid (to build all those factories, production facilities, high-end chip factories, R&D labs, etc., etc.) as have Japanese and Euro multinationals as well, so what exactly is the logically framed problem????
If they don't like the cyberespionage (only repeating that godawful word "cyber" in context) then they wouldn't ship all the tech there, now would they??? That's rather obvious now.
As for that talking point mantra you repeated, it's a symbiosis, although it is both economically and financially too complex for you to grasp, they shipped the jobs to China due to the cheap labor, and there's a reason the third-world countries have the cheapest labor, dood, it's called poverty ---- and what do you suppose China originally purchased American bonds (junk paper) with???? Obviously, there's a Ponzi scheme of international proportions taking place --- the Transnational Capitalist Class offshores the jobs and technology and aid to build the infrastructure there and elsewhere, and they purchase the Treasuries and bonds, etc. (Beginning to grasp the overall structure by this time, one hopes?)
Remember, David Rockefeller established his bank branches in Beijing and Moscow back in 1973. 1973, got that? Figure it out for yourself, the next time.......
Yup, tj, I believe you've gotten it. What should be obvious to everyone, is evidently too subtle for them, or else you are highly gifted and the gifted can comprehend the obvious.
It is pertinent to mention that one of the directors on Murdoch's News Corp. board is none other than the author of that USA PATRIOT Act, Viet Dinh, who was hired in 2003 "by ChoicePoint to advise the company on developing its government homeland security contracts." (Wikipedia quote)
ChoicePoint, as we may recall, was that corporation which purged 91,000 Black-American voters from Florida's voter registration database, colluding with Florida neocon sleazoid, Katherine Harris. Bush "officially" won Flordia by only 537 votes, and it was later shown that the majority of those 91,000 purged (ostensibly for felony convictions) turned out to have been "in error" and were eligible to vote in that election.
Murdoch's Fox News early on reported that state to Bush, (and I believe it was a Bush cousin and employee of Fox who did the reporting that night).
Murdoch/Fox ---- ChoicePoint ---- Viet Dinh ---- USA PATRIOT Act: note any pattern here???
Well stated The O Rly Factor....although I rather despise your handle, as I despise that Irish-American cretinous draft-dodger.
But let us not forget the many tentacles of the Bonnier media family (Bonnier AB, among the top 10 media corporations in existence) to every single accuser on the Assault on Assange, along with the connections between Wallenberg family and the American DoD, etc. (Anna Ardin worked for several Bonnier publications, and also through the Swedish foreign office; Thomas Bodstrom publishes his fiction through a Bonnier company -- he's attorney #2, and former Justice Minister who aided the CIA in their unlawful, and as it turned out, incorrect, extreme rendition of two Swedes of Arab extraction; Claes Borgstrom, attorney #1, whose two sisters work for Bonnier companies, Carl Bildt, a close associate of the Wallenberg family (they attend all those Bilderberg meetings, don'tcha know?), and Bildt was the first to appoint the present Justice Minister, Beatrice Ask, to a cabinet position when Bildt was a previous Swedish prime minister; and Ambassador Elisabet Bonnier, a member of the Bonnier family, who expedited Anna Ardin's entrance into Israel and Gaza when she was escaping media attention in Sweden. (Wallenberg is heavily invested in ABB and Investor AB --- Rumsfeld was a director at ABB during the '90s, when ABB sold nuclear technology and materials to North Korea.)
Sorry, dood, but while you doubtless believe you sound really, really hip, Mr. Hipster, you really sound like the classic douchebagger who is clueless to the existence of the Financial-Intelligence-Complex, which has long existed --- NOT for any National Security Purpose --- but to collect financial intelligence for their very own profit and gain, and for ever greater control of the masses (which would be you and me, dood). It's always been their thievery of the economic surplus (Thorstein Veblen), or the thievery of public funds for private use (Gustavus Myers), or Other People's Money (Louis Brandeis). It's called grand theft-larceny, douchebagger dood, and they've been getting away with it for far too long.....
...after all, THE CONSUMER is always the responsible perpetrator in Amerika!!! Why, we were the ones at McSoftware who created the advapi.dll, after all. And we created that Narus box over in Israel, financed through the Walden private equity fund, whose funds flowed from the Amerikan DoD. But why quibble over trifles, heh????
After all, that NSA/CIA department which does that (officially now known as the Arizona college system) must be kept busy for receiving all those government monies?????? And payoffs for claiming that Ivens from Ft. Detrick was the "responislbe party" for that Anthrax???? Surely you're not serious, shirley????
Dood, please see my earlier comment --- you appear to be hopelessly nontechnoid with regard to Internet, Narus, forensic software, and a host of other subjects.....Man oh man, the illiterates on this site lately -- espcially those nimrods trashing me from their very own abject ignorance --- should only be posting in Scandinaiva.
This is one of those absolute nonsensical non-issues, which only makes sense if the person posting it is completely and tehnically ignorant??? Obviously, with Narus boxes at all the major switching centers, in the US, China (for the Chinese, that is, not against them), and other countries, plus having those Narus boxes located at EPs (that's Exchange Points, or IXPs to any and all newbies, who frequently misconstrue that term and think we mean "ISP" -- Internext eXchange Points, or EPs, the physical connections where groups of major exchange connections occur), and with backdoors in Micro$oft (advapi.dll, etc.), Apple and Google, etc, for the convenience of the privatized US intel establishment, plus their forensics software allowing them to plug into and control PCs and networks (enstart.exe, etc., ever noticed it????), and probably other stuff I'm as yet unaware of -- it would seem like they've got things pretty down pat -- and are completely unconcerned with China, since they've shipped everything to them over the past some years!
Of course, we must all agree with you, especially since (and this is no joke!) the recently reappointed director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, also happens to be the grandnepher of Richard Bissell, the chief of the CIA's Directorate of Plans who was fired by President Kennedy, who was later to be murdered in Dallas in 1963.
Under Swedish law, the discovery process must first be finished before any charges can be brought -- which has yet to be accomplished by the Svensk prosecutors.
Your comments are excellent, LizardKing, but that must be added. More importantly, they Brits should be far more concerned with the total compromising of their government and police forces by the Rupert Murdoch crime machine, and begin using all their resources to extradite Murdoch and his co-conspirators.
Gee whiz, ari_i the douchebagger idiot, do you think thousands of damning leaked cables might have something to do with it or are you so totally incapacitated with trying to find your vagina, such a thought has yet to occur to your arithmetically-challenged pea-brain?
Under Swedish law, doodski, one cannot bring charges against another until the discovery process has been finished and a proper charge been levied against the supposed culprit --- something which has yet been done as the Svensk prosecutor has yet to pass on all the ICQ messages from Ardin to Assange's defense attorneys, along with other legally pertinent information.
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Let's be clear here: Obama is not, and will not be remembered as the worst president ever - nor as the worst in recent history. Dood, I wouldn't be so sure of that -- sure, he's got competition from Bush #2, #1, Reagan and Clinton (the four neocons preceding neocon Obama --- and let's not parse words, these ain't neolibs, they ARE ALL NEOCONS!) --- but Obama HAS continued and expanded upon Bush's policies, increased foreign assassinations by UAVs, "preemptively" arrested anti-war activists and community organizers, appointed the most neocon-ridden administration possible (Wall Street lobbyists, Monsanto lobbyists, pharmaceutical industry lobbyists, etc., etc.), and, oh yeah, been awarded the Nobel Prize for liberating pollution! (Actually, the Swedish Central Bank's International Prize in Economics in Memory of Nobel)
Like in Bush's, and now Obama's, Amerika they "preemptively" arrest acitivists and community organizers....... 'Nuff said.
Negative, douchebagger, although I realize you are repeating what you have read, with your bot filter always on.
The point being, the government works on behalf of its owners, the bankster/oil cartel, and not in ITS interests!
....and so many of those characters involved in attempting to extradite Assange are financially connected to the Bonnier family??? (And the Brits should be focusing on extraditing the Murdoch family, given everything coming out about their knowledge and collusion with all that cellphone spying!)
...the Swedish Central Bank was also a recipient of some of that $16.1 trillion spewed forth from the Fed (thanks to GAO audit), and Carl Bildt was a director at Lundin Petroleum when those massacres were taking place in Sudan (moving people off of the oil-rich lands they lived on, etc.). Plenty of reasons, not even counting DoD contracts to Swedish defense firms, for pressure from the USA.
http://techrights.org/2009/09/20/privatization-africa/
http://techrights.org/2009/11/02/gates-africa-un-education/
http://techrights.org/2009/10/22/seeds-of-doubt-in-bill-gates-investments/
Huh....have /.ers gone completely 'tard???? Asking this clown, Kevin Kelly of "the New Economy" bilge awhile back....and that crazy piece he did on searching for God in Amerika????? This guy is the ultimate douchebagger, for chrissakes????
It's called offshoring the production assets and offshoring the capital assets ---- are people really still clueless about this??????? I.e., there is NO ECONOMY, and since there's NO MEDIA, you'll have to do the arithmetic on your own.
You too old, guy, give it up. Go join Mitt Romney's campaign......
Why should that be astonishing since the media in America is essentially controlled by one or two corporations today (technically 5, but since they collude so much it really comes to to primarily GE and Murdoch or Clear Channel).
America has Narus boxes at strategic switching centers and EPs or IXPs (physical points of concentrated ISPs connections) while Narus (a Boeing subsidiary, along with Extreme Rendition Airlines -- Jeppesen DataPlan) opened offices in China back in 2005, so I'd imagine a similar situation exists there, also the Chinese government charges retail sites which offer free wi-fi for installing Web tracking software to track their individual users.
Furthermore, I hear they exchange information with one another on their "dissidents" --- yup, any differences between the Totalitarian Capitalist State of China, and the Corporate Fascist State of America are quickly disappearing.
Now let's examine the facts, shall we? American-based multinationals have offshored the jobs, the technology, the US foreign aid (to build all those factories, production facilities, high-end chip factories, R&D labs, etc., etc.) as have Japanese and Euro multinationals as well, so what exactly is the logically framed problem????
If they don't like the cyberespionage (only repeating that godawful word "cyber" in context) then they wouldn't ship all the tech there, now would they??? That's rather obvious now.
As for that talking point mantra you repeated, it's a symbiosis, although it is both economically and financially too complex for you to grasp, they shipped the jobs to China due to the cheap labor, and there's a reason the third-world countries have the cheapest labor, dood, it's called poverty ---- and what do you suppose China originally purchased American bonds (junk paper) with???? Obviously, there's a Ponzi scheme of international proportions taking place --- the Transnational Capitalist Class offshores the jobs and technology and aid to build the infrastructure there and elsewhere, and they purchase the Treasuries and bonds, etc. (Beginning to grasp the overall structure by this time, one hopes?)
Remember, David Rockefeller established his bank branches in Beijing and Moscow back in 1973. 1973, got that? Figure it out for yourself, the next time.......
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/world/asia/26china.html?_r=3
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-25/ge-healthcare-moves-x-ray-base-to-china-no-job-cuts-planned.html
http://blogs.forbes.com/raykwong/2011/07/25/friends-dont-let-friends-become-chinese-billionaires/
Yup, tj, I believe you've gotten it. What should be obvious to everyone, is evidently too subtle for them, or else you are highly gifted and the gifted can comprehend the obvious.
ChoicePoint, as we may recall, was that corporation which purged 91,000 Black-American voters from Florida's voter registration database, colluding with Florida neocon sleazoid, Katherine Harris. Bush "officially" won Flordia by only 537 votes, and it was later shown that the majority of those 91,000 purged (ostensibly for felony convictions) turned out to have been "in error" and were eligible to vote in that election.
Murdoch's Fox News early on reported that state to Bush, (and I believe it was a Bush cousin and employee of Fox who did the reporting that night).
Murdoch/Fox ---- ChoicePoint ---- Viet Dinh ---- USA PATRIOT Act: note any pattern here???
But let us not forget the many tentacles of the Bonnier media family (Bonnier AB, among the top 10 media corporations in existence) to every single accuser on the Assault on Assange, along with the connections between Wallenberg family and the American DoD, etc. (Anna Ardin worked for several Bonnier publications, and also through the Swedish foreign office; Thomas Bodstrom publishes his fiction through a Bonnier company -- he's attorney #2, and former Justice Minister who aided the CIA in their unlawful, and as it turned out, incorrect, extreme rendition of two Swedes of Arab extraction; Claes Borgstrom, attorney #1, whose two sisters work for Bonnier companies, Carl Bildt, a close associate of the Wallenberg family (they attend all those Bilderberg meetings, don'tcha know?), and Bildt was the first to appoint the present Justice Minister, Beatrice Ask, to a cabinet position when Bildt was a previous Swedish prime minister; and Ambassador Elisabet Bonnier, a member of the Bonnier family, who expedited Anna Ardin's entrance into Israel and Gaza when she was escaping media attention in Sweden. (Wallenberg is heavily invested in ABB and Investor AB --- Rumsfeld was a director at ABB during the '90s, when ABB sold nuclear technology and materials to North Korea.)
Sorry, dood, but while you doubtless believe you sound really, really hip, Mr. Hipster, you really sound like the classic douchebagger who is clueless to the existence of the Financial-Intelligence-Complex, which has long existed --- NOT for any National Security Purpose --- but to collect financial intelligence for their very own profit and gain, and for ever greater control of the masses (which would be you and me, dood). It's always been their thievery of the economic surplus (Thorstein Veblen), or the thievery of public funds for private use (Gustavus Myers), or Other People's Money (Louis Brandeis). It's called grand theft-larceny, douchebagger dood, and they've been getting away with it for far too long.....
...after all, THE CONSUMER is always the responsible perpetrator in Amerika!!! Why, we were the ones at McSoftware who created the advapi.dll, after all. And we created that Narus box over in Israel, financed through the Walden private equity fund, whose funds flowed from the Amerikan DoD. But why quibble over trifles, heh????
After all, that NSA/CIA department which does that (officially now known as the Arizona college system) must be kept busy for receiving all those government monies?????? And payoffs for claiming that Ivens from Ft. Detrick was the "responislbe party" for that Anthrax???? Surely you're not serious, shirley????
Dood, please see my earlier comment --- you appear to be hopelessly nontechnoid with regard to Internet, Narus, forensic software, and a host of other subjects.....Man oh man, the illiterates on this site lately -- espcially those nimrods trashing me from their very own abject ignorance --- should only be posting in Scandinaiva.
This is one of those absolute nonsensical non-issues, which only makes sense if the person posting it is completely and tehnically ignorant??? Obviously, with Narus boxes at all the major switching centers, in the US, China (for the Chinese, that is, not against them), and other countries, plus having those Narus boxes located at EPs (that's Exchange Points, or IXPs to any and all newbies, who frequently misconstrue that term and think we mean "ISP" -- Internext eXchange Points, or EPs, the physical connections where groups of major exchange connections occur), and with backdoors in Micro$oft (advapi.dll, etc.), Apple and Google, etc, for the convenience of the privatized US intel establishment, plus their forensics software allowing them to plug into and control PCs and networks (enstart.exe, etc., ever noticed it????), and probably other stuff I'm as yet unaware of -- it would seem like they've got things pretty down pat -- and are completely unconcerned with China, since they've shipped everything to them over the past some years!
Of course, we must all agree with you, especially since (and this is no joke!) the recently reappointed director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, also happens to be the grandnepher of Richard Bissell, the chief of the CIA's Directorate of Plans who was fired by President Kennedy, who was later to be murdered in Dallas in 1963.
Your comments are excellent, LizardKing, but that must be added. More importantly, they Brits should be far more concerned with the total compromising of their government and police forces by the Rupert Murdoch crime machine, and begin using all their resources to extradite Murdoch and his co-conspirators.
Gee whiz, ari_i the douchebagger idiot, do you think thousands of damning leaked cables might have something to do with it or are you so totally incapacitated with trying to find your vagina, such a thought has yet to occur to your arithmetically-challenged pea-brain?
Obama loves you.....and Goldman Sachs!