Well, "he's not Hillary Clinton" is a pretty solid one.
Well, no, because Hillary Clinton is a private citizen. That's like saying : "he's not Timothy McVeigh" or "He's not Kim Kardashian". There's what? 299 million people in the US who aren't Hillary Clinton.
This, and to add the fact that most of the things said about Hillary are just lies that Trump and Breitbart made up. Sounds like you continue to believe those lies, whilst openly admitting that Trump lies, and openly lies, and doesn't care for the truth enough to care that he is lying and that everyone can see that he is lying, but somehow, the things he (and Breitbart) said about Hillary were the truth. Or perhaps you don't, and like Trump, don't care for the truth at all.
When it comes to light that none of those things are true either you'll just say "of course he lies, politicians lie" as if it's our fault for believing your argument. Can you not see how unconscionable your behaviour is?
Maybe you should have made that argument before electing Trump on the basis that he could successfully make America Great again by turning the clock back 40 years on industrialisation?
No idea why you think my facts are wrong - it was HIM who said it.
All that matters is who people feel is on their side.
Which - again - makes me wonder what happens when the people who gave up their chance at peace and prosperity in order to elect him becuase he claimed he was going to 'drain the swamp' find out he has no intention of draining anything but their bank balance.
I just find it odd that his supporters built a case to elect him based on his statements and then when he is elected acted as if they knew all along that he was lying.
He said he was anti-establishment: they said to elect on that basis. Turns out he is as establishment as they come.
How do you think the coal miners and people working in industries displaced by globalisation will feel when it comes to light he is just going to follow the establishment path on globalisation?
If so, it was rigged against him and he still won.
The result is invalid either way, because we don't know off the bat how the rigging impacted the result.
The best course of action is a thorough investigation and, if Trumps allegations are true, a new election held. If he lied, he can be indicted or impeached and removed from office.
Sounds like then you essentially agree with the protesters : Trumps allegations should be thoroughly investigated and a new election called, or Trump indicted.
Not sure why people are complaining about the protesters - sounds like everybody wants the same thing.
You'd agree then, that if he is not a fool and and IS a friend of democracy, that a full investigation should be launched.
Trump should be questioned closely about how he knew the election was rigged:- I'm sure, if he is a friend of democracy that he'll have no objection to an open and frank discussion and full disclosure.
If he is right, then another election should be called. It's the right thing to do.
It was a major election on a close margin. Whenever that happens, regardless of who wins, there is going to be a bit of rioting.
Trump legitimised the protests by refusing to say that he would accept the result if he lost. If it was okay for Team A to protest if Team A lost, it's okay for Team B to protest if Team B lost. Simple enough.
The question was asked plainly and he could have answered it easily, if that is actually what he meant. Anyone who is fiercely or even reluctantly committed to democracy would have replied in the affirmative. He did not.
What we should do is take his claims of a rigged election with the utmost seriousness. A full investigation should be conducted. If his claims are true, then another election should be called immediately. If he is lying, then he should be indicted or impeached.
It behoves us to fiercely defend the democratic process, and his claims are serious. We should begin investigating immediately.
He did NOT say that. Once again, the Dems use a lie as the basis for all their ongoing arguments.
All he had to do is say that he expected a clean election and barring any major fraud, would accept the result either way: he didn't say that. Whoever these 'Dems' are, sounds to me like they got it right.
And what was the clinton crowd's response to Trump's comment? "Oh, he won't accept the results. That puts our democracy in danger, blah blah." And what's happening right now? Clinton supports RIOTING over the result in numerous cities. Their ignorance and hypocrisy is allowing them to be used as tools of malicious organizations like MoveOn.org and George Soros for the purpose of destroying the American way of life.
For everything the Left has accused Trump of, they themselves are guilty of tenfold.
Well, that's what Trump says, but he's a liar. Most pertinently, he lied to the people who elected him. You want to ban protesting now? Sorry, but you'll need to be able to protest later when it's the promises he made to YOU that he fails to keep.
So he lied, and his actual plan was to re-inistute the GOP establishment agenda - the very thing he railed against and the primary reason why those people voted for him?
How will the poor unemployed white guys react when they find out?
You need to smash more cars and set more fires before we'll believe in how justified you are to do those things.
I'm not smashing any cars: but I will state the obvious. Trump said quite clearly before the election that he would not accept the result if he didn't win. Trump is president elect. What he says is permissible for him, is permissible for everybody.
Trump poisoned the well.
If it's okay for Trump to reject the results of the electoral process if he doesn't like it, it's okay for the 75% of Americans who didn't vote for him to reject the result as well.
Perhaps the angry words has something to do with the spate of violence that has broken out against those Americans who were targetted by Trump's hate during the campaign?
He'll drag that dead thing out of the house and prop it up in a lawn chair, and pretend for the sake of all passers by that Coal is just dandy and we are having a roaring weekend partying at Coal's place.
Perhaps he paid for it illegally out of Trump foundation - just like those giant portraits of himself and the money he stole from the charity to pay court settlement costs?
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Well, "he's not Hillary Clinton" is a pretty solid one.
Well, no, because Hillary Clinton is a private citizen. That's like saying : "he's not Timothy McVeigh" or "He's not Kim Kardashian". There's what? 299 million people in the US who aren't Hillary Clinton.
This, and to add the fact that most of the things said about Hillary are just lies that Trump and Breitbart made up. Sounds like you continue to believe those lies, whilst openly admitting that Trump lies, and openly lies, and doesn't care for the truth enough to care that he is lying and that everyone can see that he is lying, but somehow, the things he (and Breitbart) said about Hillary were the truth. Or perhaps you don't, and like Trump, don't care for the truth at all.
When it comes to light that none of those things are true either you'll just say "of course he lies, politicians lie" as if it's our fault for believing your argument. Can you not see how unconscionable your behaviour is?
Maybe you should have made that argument before electing Trump on the basis that he could successfully make America Great again by turning the clock back 40 years on industrialisation?
No idea why you think my facts are wrong - it was HIM who said it.
All that matters is who people feel is on their side.
Which - again - makes me wonder what happens when the people who gave up their chance at peace and prosperity in order to elect him becuase he claimed he was going to 'drain the swamp' find out he has no intention of draining anything but their bank balance.
I just find it odd that his supporters built a case to elect him based on his statements and then when he is elected acted as if they knew all along that he was lying.
He said he was anti-establishment: they said to elect on that basis. Turns out he is as establishment as they come.
What reasons remain to have him as president?
All politicians lie.
So was he lying when he said the election was rigged?
He didn't even pretend to tell the truth. Many people found his honesty about lying to be refreshing.
Do you have a clip or cite that you can show us where Trump made it clear that he was lying?
Did he happen to list the things he was lying about? Was claiming to be 'anti-establishment' on that list?
Were anything of the things he said true?
Yes, some of the things he said were true. For instance, he said that the polls were wrong.
Interesting. Did he say anything that wasn't just inadvertantly true?
Were anything of the things he said true?
How do you think the coal miners and people working in industries displaced by globalisation will feel when it comes to light he is just going to follow the establishment path on globalisation?
I guess that's why people are sitting in US military prisons for doing less than Hillary right.
That's what Trump said. He also said that the election was rigged. Was he telling the truth?
He thought it was rigged.
More: he said it was rigged.
If so, it was rigged against him and he still won.
The result is invalid either way, because we don't know off the bat how the rigging impacted the result.
The best course of action is a thorough investigation and, if Trumps allegations are true, a new election held. If he lied, he can be indicted or impeached and removed from office.
Oh. There will be lots of investigations
Sounds like then you essentially agree with the protesters : Trumps allegations should be thoroughly investigated and a new election called, or Trump indicted.
Not sure why people are complaining about the protesters - sounds like everybody wants the same thing.
Trump should be questioned closely about how he knew the election was rigged:- I'm sure, if he is a friend of democracy that he'll have no objection to an open and frank discussion and full disclosure.
If he is right, then another election should be called. It's the right thing to do.
It was a major election on a close margin. Whenever that happens, regardless of who wins, there is going to be a bit of rioting.
Trump legitimised the protests by refusing to say that he would accept the result if he lost. If it was okay for Team A to protest if Team A lost, it's okay for Team B to protest if Team B lost. Simple enough.
Trump said that the election was rigged and probably a farce. We should take those comments at face value.
Unless you are suggesting he is a liar.
What we should do is take his claims of a rigged election with the utmost seriousness. A full investigation should be conducted. If his claims are true, then another election should be called immediately. If he is lying, then he should be indicted or impeached.
It behoves us to fiercely defend the democratic process, and his claims are serious. We should begin investigating immediately.
Oh. Politicians lie?
So did you know that Trump was lying before the election, or only after?
And which candidate was it that promised to lock up dissidents against his reign, were he to obtain power?
Your translator is broken.
He did NOT say that. Once again, the Dems use a lie as the basis for all their ongoing arguments.
All he had to do is say that he expected a clean election and barring any major fraud, would accept the result either way: he didn't say that. Whoever these 'Dems' are, sounds to me like they got it right.
And what was the clinton crowd's response to Trump's comment? "Oh, he won't accept the results. That puts our democracy in danger, blah blah." And what's happening right now? Clinton supports RIOTING over the result in numerous cities. Their ignorance and hypocrisy is allowing them to be used as tools of malicious organizations like MoveOn.org and George Soros for the purpose of destroying the American way of life.
For everything the Left has accused Trump of, they themselves are guilty of tenfold.
Well, that's what Trump says, but he's a liar. Most pertinently, he lied to the people who elected him. You want to ban protesting now? Sorry, but you'll need to be able to protest later when it's the promises he made to YOU that he fails to keep.
How will the poor unemployed white guys react when they find out?
Is he is isn't he?
Do you expect Trump to keep his campaign promises?
What will you do if he doesn't?
You need to smash more cars and set more fires before we'll believe in how justified you are to do those things.
I'm not smashing any cars: but I will state the obvious. Trump said quite clearly before the election that he would not accept the result if he didn't win. Trump is president elect. What he says is permissible for him, is permissible for everybody. Trump poisoned the well.
If it's okay for Trump to reject the results of the electoral process if he doesn't like it, it's okay for the 75% of Americans who didn't vote for him to reject the result as well.
Speech isn't violence.
Tell that to the OP whining about the people responding in kind to Trumps hate speech.
No one can be assaulted via twitter.
These people are reporting ACTUAL assault (which criticism of Trump, his character and his policies, is not).
Perhaps the angry words has something to do with the spate of violence that has broken out against those Americans who were targetted by Trump's hate during the campaign?
He'll drag that dead thing out of the house and prop it up in a lawn chair, and pretend for the sake of all passers by that Coal is just dandy and we are having a roaring weekend partying at Coal's place.
The Force of Reality is not strong with this one.
Perhaps he paid for it illegally out of Trump foundation - just like those giant portraits of himself and the money he stole from the charity to pay court settlement costs?
Why is that?