That's the election policy document, it pretty clearly outlines mandatory filtering, you can even scrounge around and find the announcement of the original policy by Kim Beazley as leader if you can be bothered.
Lol.. copied liberal policy... you haven't followed politics over the past month? Kyoto, Apology, WorkChoices, Iraq and the pacific solution. All clear differentiations between the parties before the election, that the liberals have changed their mind on and fallen in with the labor party on with only 2 sitting weeks of parliament finished.
Anyone who's still trotting out that ridiculous "me too" line obviously has little to say other than what he read in a liberal party pamphlet, what's next, you going to start yelling about interest rates?
They went to the election with this policy, it has been policy for > 12 months, if you're too lazy to look up policy that's your problem.
Those liberal ads were idiotic and laughed at by most.
The election was about many more and much more important issues than internet filters. If that's the only thing I have to put up with to get rid of the racist, fear playing, warmongering, economy trashing, worker exploiting, power hungry, anti-federalist howard government then I will be an extraordinarily happy man.
To be asking this on/. is obviously going to be a karma burn, but why would you ever measure the worth of a product by how much money was made from it?
As important as the internet is to all of us, the last election was primarily dealing with MUCH more important issues than an opt-out ISP level filter that most anyone on/. could get around.
Internet Filter... Assault on workers rights... Internet Filter... Assault on workers rights.
Y'know what, as annoyed as these things make me, I'd go back and vote the same.
Smallpox? You kidding me? The eradication of smallpox was a time of big governments, big non-profits, and a concerted effort for the greater good not for profit.
Also, back in the late 1700s, someone couldn't patent a scab off of a cows back.
I see your point, although I'm one of those weird people who reads the article. It was intended to be a play on words, because keelty was calling for a "blackout".
The link you provided does not have anyone calling for keelty to be gagged, simply the government stating that the opinions expressed by him are not theirs and they strongly disagree with them.
No, that would make the public service a political body, a very bad thing. Whistleblowing from the public service has a long history in Australia, and is considered here to be an act that is essential to a functioning democracy.
And your belief that less views put forward is a good model for a democracy is disturbing.
Agreeable or not, do you honestly believe we shouldn't hear the views of someone in a position like head of the AFP? So we should only get the opinions and facts as to what's going on from the politicians, interesting...
Actually... pure capitalism relies on it, university of chicago models will attempt to sell you on the idea that if every player is rational and only self-interested, it all works out. It's ridiculous but there you go.
The idea of pure communism/socialism is flawed in that it discounts human greed altogether. The idea of pure capitalism/free-marketism is flawed in that it assumes humans can aspire to nothing better than greed.
As with most things, it's all about finding the optimal balance between the extremes as the extremes are not perfect. Those who will tell you that they have the "perfect" system are fanatics and should be left well alone, unfortunately we seem to have quite a few of these fanatics in positions of monetary power at the moment.
And the US is not a "capitalist" country. What he is trying to say is that those "social democracy" countries have a far "kinder" (and more sane) mix of capitalism and socialism than the US does. Or to go for a more extreme example, china.
Amen to that. I tend to think the instantaneous nature and beautiful clutter of the internet has made those horrid sprawling mcMansion suburbs look all the more absurd to me.
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Fine, if you're determined to bend words and ignore the earlier paragraphs, I'll go back another freakin year.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/labor-moves-to-block-internet-porn-and-violence/2006/03/21/1142703358027.html
It's a long standing unchanged policy. If you're a voter then PLEASE make it a priority to pay attention to what the hell's going on around you.
First, I didn't vote labor, I just recognise what an evil blight on the face of this country the howard led liberal party was. (WAS, thank god).
http://www.alp.org.au/download/now/labors_plan_for_cyber_safety.pdf
That's the election policy document, it pretty clearly outlines mandatory filtering, you can even scrounge around and find the announcement of the original policy by Kim Beazley as leader if you can be bothered.
Lol.. copied liberal policy... you haven't followed politics over the past month? Kyoto, Apology, WorkChoices, Iraq and the pacific solution. All clear differentiations between the parties before the election, that the liberals have changed their mind on and fallen in with the labor party on with only 2 sitting weeks of parliament finished.
Anyone who's still trotting out that ridiculous "me too" line obviously has little to say other than what he read in a liberal party pamphlet, what's next, you going to start yelling about interest rates?
Oh how we pine for that arrogant prick who actually knew what he was doing now...
I figure there's quite a few people getting about these days who think maybe collecting antique clocks probably wasn't such an earth shattering flaw.
They went to the election with this policy, it has been policy for > 12 months, if you're too lazy to look up policy that's your problem.
Those liberal ads were idiotic and laughed at by most.
The election was about many more and much more important issues than internet filters.
If that's the only thing I have to put up with to get rid of the racist, fear playing, warmongering, economy trashing, worker exploiting, power hungry, anti-federalist howard government then I will be an extraordinarily happy man.
To be asking this on /. is obviously going to be a karma burn, but why would you ever measure the worth of a product by how much money was made from it?
As important as the internet is to all of us, the last election was primarily dealing with MUCH more important issues than an opt-out ISP level filter that most anyone on /. could get around.
Internet Filter... Assault on workers rights... Internet Filter... Assault on workers rights.
Y'know what, as annoyed as these things make me, I'd go back and vote the same.
No offence, but you've dismissed empirical evidence at the hands of a little bit of anecdotal, and one report from "interviews".
Ignoring that interviews are a terrible way to gather data (people are more truthful to an anonymous form), who conducted this report?
You might find this piece interesting:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/britons-will-keep-on-fearing-the-worst/2008/01/13/1200159274543.html
Crime keeps decreasing in real terms, and we keep thinking it's getting worse and coming up with extreme measures to counter it.
There was an article about doing just this a while back actually.
From memory they had to use piezo's so the energy generated wasn't that great, still interesting though.
Wow, any idea whatsoever who campaigned for and was the driving force behind those labor laws?
Smallpox? You kidding me? The eradication of smallpox was a time of big governments, big non-profits, and a concerted effort for the greater good not for profit.
Also, back in the late 1700s, someone couldn't patent a scab off of a cows back.
Ha, "journalist". :-)
Ha, watching the election night coverage don't half of us? ;-)
:-)
I generally read The Age, which is sister to the SMH and don't find it too bad, particularly as far as aussie media goes.
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I see your point, although I'm one of those weird people who reads the article.
It was intended to be a play on words, because keelty was calling for a "blackout".
Pretty crappy play on words at that.
Where's the -1 Liar moderation?
The link you provided does not have anyone calling for keelty to be gagged, simply the government stating that the opinions expressed by him are not theirs and they strongly disagree with them.
No, that would make the public service a political body, a very bad thing.
Whistleblowing from the public service has a long history in Australia, and is considered here to be an act that is essential to a functioning democracy.
And your belief that less views put forward is a good model for a democracy is disturbing.
Agreeable or not, do you honestly believe we shouldn't hear the views of someone in a position like head of the AFP? So we should only get the opinions and facts as to what's going on from the politicians, interesting...
It's the job of the public service to make comment without fear or favour.
Keelty might be an idiot, but he knows his role better than you do obviously.
It's for images of aboriginal/torres strait islanders who have died since the image was made.
The champion of sweatshops doesn't care about poverty? I'm shocked ;-)
Actually... pure capitalism relies on it, university of chicago models will attempt to sell you on the idea that if every player is rational and only self-interested, it all works out.
It's ridiculous but there you go.
The idea of pure communism/socialism is flawed in that it discounts human greed altogether.
The idea of pure capitalism/free-marketism is flawed in that it assumes humans can aspire to nothing better than greed.
As with most things, it's all about finding the optimal balance between the extremes as the extremes are not perfect.
Those who will tell you that they have the "perfect" system are fanatics and should be left well alone, unfortunately we seem to have quite a few of these fanatics in positions of monetary power at the moment.
Weird, I recall this was an idea that used to be popular even in the US once.
I believe they called it the "public sector".
And the US is not a "capitalist" country. What he is trying to say is that those "social democracy" countries have a far "kinder" (and more sane) mix of capitalism and socialism than the US does.
Or to go for a more extreme example, china.
Amen to that.
I tend to think the instantaneous nature and beautiful clutter of the internet has made those horrid sprawling mcMansion suburbs look all the more absurd to me.
Maybe I would've hated them anyway.. but still.
Did you.. read the last line of my post?