I whole-heartedly disagree. Slackware hasn't been at the top starting when it decided to stay with libc5 and not move along while the other distribs rocketed forward.
I left Slackware at that time for the simple reason that it was just too difficult to use the latest software.
Slackware also does not have any easy way to install dependant packages. Who the hell has the time to sit around and find, compile, and install dependencies only to find out you have another one to go?
Debian solves ALL those issues. It's fast, it's updated (unstable tree), and it takes care of all the headache (aside from trying to use CVS X and X apps via apt-get).
What do I think Debian should do next? As the Linux world's leading non-commercial, community-driven distribution, Debian can lead the way in preserving the fragile Linux ecosystem, if it sets its mind to it.
Debian is NOT going to preserve anything. If it continues on its current path (which is fine for me as I am a Debian user) it will find that it is cornered it its own niche.
The rest of the Linux community is moving FORWARD towards the mainstream. Debian remains locked in its "old fashioned ways" and will never be a leader in anything (as far as the MAJORITY will be concerned).
People want ease of use, ease of installation, and commercial applications to be included. They don't want to have to find them somewhere else, manually add a deb repository, and then install.
I have to say that I am nearly 100% pleased with Debian. That's not to say that is what is going to matter in the future. I like staying away from the current direction that Linux is moving but I don't believe that the rest of the community necessarily believes that's the best way to go.
Some of the puns made me squirm, but for the most part they added a nice touch of levity to the book. So, depending on your threshold for python-esque puns or corny Elvis jokes, the book may not be for you, but knowing the/. Crowd, I don't think it will cause anything more than some groans and giggles.
This is a quality book. It is one that should be re-read every now and then to make sure you do not stray from the Tenets that Gancarz drives home throughout the book via anecdotal evidence.
Are these two items REQUIRED for book reviews on Slashdot? The word "andecdotal" and "puns"?
a lot of people that I have seen that are vunerable to the attack were made noticable to me by the simple fact that they were hitting my webserver with the worm that causes the "default.ida" to show up in the logs.
If they didn't know to patch against that (and how old is it?) why would you think that they know to patch against this?
ever worked in a call center? Your EVERY move it watched.
You are attached to a phone (so you can't go anywhere further than the phone cord).
You are logged into a computer that has Internet tracked (including access to see exactly what is on your screen at any given time).
You are logged into a time server to keep track of your "clock punches".
You are logged into a phone so that every keypress on the phone is tracked.
You are recorded for QA purposes which are listened to at regular intervals to check your score weekly.
The call center I worked at was QUITE effective at keeping people working every minute of their 7.5 hours and making sure people were clocked in/out on time for start, breaks, and end.
You were scored on a sheet by both QA and your supervisor (so they both know what you did both good and bad).
And all you people think that CSRs are bad? We don't do this for teachers, why not?
what does their pay have to do w/anything? As a taxpayer (without children) I pay these people's salaries. I *expect* results for all those involved (even the children I don't have yet).
I want to make sure that ALL possible avenues are covered in order to make MY money more useful.
These teachers get poor pay and only work 9 months of the year. They get long vacations and they get the entire summer. Many of them suppliment their incomes over the summer with coaching, tutoring, training, and other various activities.
I forgot to mention that I am a privacy (even in PUBLIC) advocate.
I don't feel that kids at school have any expectation of privacy in schools (including bathrooms and locker rooms).
I especially don't feel that teachers should have any privacy either. Who knwows if they are actually using their "planning periods" to do work. I would prefer that they are watched, especially public school teachers. My taxes pay their salaries, I want to make sure that the children are getting good educations and also getting EVERYTHING I pay for.
But privacy advocates, teachers' groups and others worry about putting classes under an all-day microscope. Some say cameras could be misused and interfere with teaching, and others fear that districts using them could become complacent about security.
Cameras will do anything BUT interfere with teaching. There are two possible scenarios: a) teachers begin to ignore the cameras and carry on as always or hopefully b) they will realize that the cameras are 100% coverage of their daily teaching and can be used for/against them during review time. They would hopefully improve their teaching and in-class behavior. This could only lead to a better teaching experience IMHO.
How many people have been in class and had a teacher watched by an administration member only to watch a COMPLETELY different teacher come through? Exactly.
I guess districts could possibly become complacent. Do businesses that monitor their cameras become complacent? No, I am pretty sure that they use them effectively for their purpose. I guess ANYTHING is better than a sticker that reads "all visitors must report to the main office."
if you use this vunerability against someone (usually people that hit your web server with/default.ida) you get access to a C:\ prompt. You can look around, run format, etc.
It's quick to crash the machine (apparently) as the remote becomes unusable (pingable though).
It's actually pretty nasty from what I have seen... I just wonder how effective the worm will be when the machine becomes unresponsive after a few commands?
Perhaps it won't spread as fast as others because of this problem? I suppose we can hope.
Just this weekend I just purchased a Panasonic (SL-SX420) portable CD player that happens to read MP3 CDs too. It was $39.99 at BestBuy. I was shopping around for a portable MP3 player but couldn't see spending $200 on a 20GB Nomad or even more for an iPod.
For those of you more unfortunate poor people (like myself), perhaps this player would better suit your needs.
Could improved interactivity be the next big search engine advancement after Pagerank?"
In short, no.
I have tried Whittebit before (a user had a link to it in his.sig on Slashdot). I was unimpressed with the results the first time (there were 8 or so to work with) and limiting with the thumbs down was of little use when there were so few results.
I can't see google's superiority being challenged by this at all. What else would Whittebit offer me other than this "feature"? I didn't see anything else when I used it (and in fact, was rather annoyed by the fact that it remained at the top of the screen while reading the link I was sent to).
she's American, she's FINE, she's obviously well educated, she grew up through hard times (was raised "poor" so her bio says), and she's tackling some important issues.
While I feel (see here)that some of her issues are going to cause detrimental harm to her campaign due to the current status of most of the voting population, I think that people could possibly relate to her (especially 18-29 aged voters, sadly, most of that group doesn't vote).
I would like to know if you fear that two of your more controversial issues (legalization of marijuana and gay marriages) will be detrimental to your campaign?
While I believe that as more and more "young" people run for and are elected to office, these items might come to pass, don't you think that it is a little early to be attempting to make these strides?
My other issue is your stance on Health Care. The fine State of CA has many illegal immigrants on its soil, (in fact it depends on those people for many "lowly" jobs IIRC). Are you planning on REAL citizens covering the insurance costs for these illegal immigrants and their children? Don't you see this as a large enough burden on the population as it is?
no. it's a device that can communicate with another device without having to be manually passed over a reader.
A barcode must be passed directly over a barcode reader (and it is already difficult enough to get them to scan -- USCAN), and RFID tags can be read from a distance.
I *can* defeat the effectiveness of the RFID tag, but 99.999% of the population doesn't know any better.
you are not so much smarter than everyone else that you are the only one who gets it
I want you to show me where in my post I said that I was?
I want you to get a clue, and re-read and then re-think what you said. Obviously you are trolling.
What I did say was that NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION to this stuff. No one reads anything outside of the sports section and the front page. No one is scouring the net looking for what information they can find about what is going on "behind the scenes".
People these days want to watch their "reality TV" a "escape reality" (I have heard people say that too many times not to laugh).
They want to ignore what is really out there and would rather be forcefed a bunch of made up, scripted, bullshit on network/cable TV.
I might not be smarted, but I am certainly more informed and more concerned (and rightly so) of anything that might infringe on the anonymous past we had.
With Ridge's approval for RFID, the food and drug companies and retailers hope to win over a wary public. They also may get legal protection under the Safety Act of 2002 -- a tort-reform law that offers blanket lawsuit protections to makers of antiterrorism devices, should those devices fail during a terrorist attack.
What major backlash is coming from the "weary public"? I have said this a billion times before. No one outside of our geek culture has any idea what this is. If it's not on Network TV's latest reality show, it's not real. I am too lazy to find my other posts about my attempted discussions with co-workers about their privacy being invaded with Patriot I and II and how they look at me as if I am speaking Greek. "You mean you do something other than watch Paradise Hotel?" (this isn't a slight exaggeration).
People have NO FUCKING clue what is going on in the world around them. I deal w/100's of people daily who freely give out their SSN to me to look up their records. I specifically ask if they know their student ID first (even though it's a unique identifier, it's not as bad as just throwing out your SSN everywhere) and people just utter, "uhhh, no, but I know my SSN!"
So if people are so willing to just give up their nationally unique identifier, you really think that they are paying attention to RFIDs? Go outside of your cube and ask any non-geek, "do you know what an RFID and how it impacts you personally?" or possibly, "do you know what the Patriot Act is?" I guarantee that they won't have a clue what an RFID is and they will say something like "do you also talk in letters?" and they will seriously believe that the Patriot Act is something having to do with the military giving missles to another country (if they are even THAT clueful).
Post your results here please, I am seriously interested if this is just a localized phenominon here where I live (my gf, her co-workers, my friends, and my co-workers are 100% clueless when it comes to anything privacy related), I would like to know what the rest of the non-geek world sees.
Well, speaking from experience of working for ATTBI I know that no matter how much a tech knows there is very little that he/she could have done to help you.
Call times aside, you had a strict list of things that you could help with and nothing outside of that.
Powercycle, check connections, restart, release/renew, send to Tier 2. That's how it worked. Anything outside of that was considered in excess of what you were allowed to do and you were dinged on points for it.
ATTBI techs were trained to "get you off the phone", whether that meant to powercycle/reset remotely and get you online, or sent you to tier 2.
It's not a lax hiring process either. They just have an incredibly high turnover. Either people don't come to work, come in late, or just hate their job so VERY much that they leave, they lose people FAST.
I have no idea. I could only imagine that they feel that they can somehow back out of the GPL.
I mean, if they are going to continue allowing the 2.4.13 kernel code to be posted on their site which forces them to accept the GPL through 2.4.13 I can't see how they wouldn't have taken it down months ago. It seems like a rather large hole if the GPL stands up, why would they take that risk unless they "knew something we didn't"?
SCO has shipped these products for many years, in some cases for nearly two decades, and this is the first time that IBM has ever raised an issue about patent infringement in these products.
And SCO has been supporting Linux for quite a number of years, and still has the 2.4.13 kernel sources available on their site. Amazingly enough, they haven't removed that from their site, allowing for Linux to be used free of SCO prior to and including version 2.4.13.
If IBM wants customers to accept the GPL risk...
It is now even more obvious that SCO feels that the GPL is too weak to stand up in court. I think that IBM has already planned for this and is prepared to prove that the GPL will hold up. I just find it extremely interesting that SCO supported the GPL up until 2.4.13 and no FANTASTIC strides have been made since that point in the code that *we think* they are trying to claim is their IP.
I guess that SCO is basically screwed unless they can some how force the GPL to break-down in court.
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I whole-heartedly disagree. Slackware hasn't been at the top starting when it decided to stay with libc5 and not move along while the other distribs rocketed forward.
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I left Slackware at that time for the simple reason that it was just too difficult to use the latest software.
Slackware also does not have any easy way to install dependant packages. Who the hell has the time to sit around and find, compile, and install dependencies only to find out you have another one to go?
Debian solves ALL those issues. It's fast, it's updated (unstable tree), and it takes care of all the headache (aside from trying to use CVS X and X apps via apt-get).
That's my worthless
What do I think Debian should do next? As the Linux world's leading non-commercial, community-driven distribution, Debian can lead the way in preserving the fragile Linux ecosystem, if it sets its mind to it.
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Debian is NOT going to preserve anything. If it continues on its current path (which is fine for me as I am a Debian user) it will find that it is cornered it its own niche.
The rest of the Linux community is moving FORWARD towards the mainstream. Debian remains locked in its "old fashioned ways" and will never be a leader in anything (as far as the MAJORITY will be concerned).
People want ease of use, ease of installation, and commercial applications to be included. They don't want to have to find them somewhere else, manually add a deb repository, and then install.
I have to say that I am nearly 100% pleased with Debian. That's not to say that is what is going to matter in the future. I like staying away from the current direction that Linux is moving but I don't believe that the rest of the community necessarily believes that's the best way to go.
That's my worthless
I used to get letters of C&D when I would hop on a Warez'ing FTP server (way back in the day).
It was obviously automated and it didn't scare me, but I am sure that there were people that did listen.
Some of the puns made me squirm, but for the most part they added a nice touch of levity to the book. So, depending on your threshold for python-esque puns or corny Elvis jokes, the book may not be for you, but knowing the /. Crowd, I don't think it will cause anything more than some groans and giggles.
:)
This is a quality book. It is one that should be re-read every now and then to make sure you do not stray from the Tenets that Gancarz drives home throughout the book via anecdotal evidence.
Are these two items REQUIRED for book reviews on Slashdot? The word "andecdotal" and "puns"?
Doesn't seem like it.
a lot of people that I have seen that are vunerable to the attack were made noticable to me by the simple fact that they were hitting my webserver with the worm that causes the "default.ida" to show up in the logs.
If they didn't know to patch against that (and how old is it?) why would you think that they know to patch against this?
ever worked in a call center? Your EVERY move it watched.
You are attached to a phone (so you can't go anywhere further than the phone cord).
You are logged into a computer that has Internet tracked (including access to see exactly what is on your screen at any given time).
You are logged into a time server to keep track of your "clock punches".
You are logged into a phone so that every keypress on the phone is tracked.
You are recorded for QA purposes which are listened to at regular intervals to check your score weekly.
The call center I worked at was QUITE effective at keeping people working every minute of their 7.5 hours and making sure people were clocked in/out on time for start, breaks, and end.
You were scored on a sheet by both QA and your supervisor (so they both know what you did both good and bad).
And all you people think that CSRs are bad? We don't do this for teachers, why not?
at work (and at public school), you have NO EXPECTATION of privacy.
If your boss wants to watch you, your emails, your net activity, whatever, that's their perogative.
I don't like it as much as the next guy, but that's not the point here.
what does their pay have to do w/anything? As a taxpayer (without children) I pay these people's salaries. I *expect* results for all those involved (even the children I don't have yet).
I want to make sure that ALL possible avenues are covered in order to make MY money more useful.
These teachers get poor pay and only work 9 months of the year. They get long vacations and they get the entire summer. Many of them suppliment their incomes over the summer with coaching, tutoring, training, and other various activities.
I don't see why "BB" can't watch them.
I forgot to mention that I am a privacy (even in PUBLIC) advocate.
I don't feel that kids at school have any expectation of privacy in schools (including bathrooms and locker rooms).
I especially don't feel that teachers should have any privacy either. Who knwows if they are actually using their "planning periods" to do work. I would prefer that they are watched, especially public school teachers. My taxes pay their salaries, I want to make sure that the children are getting good educations and also getting EVERYTHING I pay for.
these are web-enabled with a password. Police can view them "in case of an emergency."
I assume that means that there isn't a general website where people can view the feeds.
But privacy advocates, teachers' groups and others worry about putting classes under an all-day microscope. Some say cameras could be misused and interfere with teaching, and others fear that districts using them could become complacent about security.
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Cameras will do anything BUT interfere with teaching. There are two possible scenarios: a) teachers begin to ignore the cameras and carry on as always or hopefully b) they will realize that the cameras are 100% coverage of their daily teaching and can be used for/against them during review time. They would hopefully improve their teaching and in-class behavior. This could only lead to a better teaching experience IMHO.
How many people have been in class and had a teacher watched by an administration member only to watch a COMPLETELY different teacher come through? Exactly.
I guess districts could possibly become complacent. Do businesses that monitor their cameras become complacent? No, I am pretty sure that they use them effectively for their purpose. I guess ANYTHING is better than a sticker that reads "all visitors must report to the main office."
Just my worthless
if you use this vunerability against someone (usually people that hit your web server with /default.ida) you get access to a C:\ prompt. You can look around, run format, etc.
It's quick to crash the machine (apparently) as the remote becomes unusable (pingable though).
It's actually pretty nasty from what I have seen... I just wonder how effective the worm will be when the machine becomes unresponsive after a few commands?
Perhaps it won't spread as fast as others because of this problem? I suppose we can hope.
Just this weekend I just purchased a Panasonic (SL-SX420) portable CD player that happens to read MP3 CDs too. It was $39.99 at BestBuy. I was shopping around for a portable MP3 player but couldn't see spending $200 on a 20GB Nomad or even more for an iPod.
For those of you more unfortunate poor people (like myself), perhaps this player would better suit your needs.
Could improved interactivity be the next big search engine advancement after Pagerank?"
.sig on Slashdot). I was unimpressed with the results the first time (there were 8 or so to work with) and limiting with the thumbs down was of little use when there were so few results.
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In short, no.
I have tried Whittebit before (a user had a link to it in his
I can't see google's superiority being challenged by this at all. What else would Whittebit offer me other than this "feature"? I didn't see anything else when I used it (and in fact, was rather annoyed by the fact that it remained at the top of the screen while reading the link I was sent to).
No thanks, just my worthless
she's American, she's FINE, she's obviously well educated, she grew up through hard times (was raised "poor" so her bio says), and she's tackling some important issues.
While I feel (see here)that some of her issues are going to cause detrimental harm to her campaign due to the current status of most of the voting population, I think that people could possibly relate to her (especially 18-29 aged voters, sadly, most of that group doesn't vote).
I would like to know if you fear that two of your more controversial issues (legalization of marijuana and gay marriages) will be detrimental to your campaign?
While I believe that as more and more "young" people run for and are elected to office, these items might come to pass, don't you think that it is a little early to be attempting to make these strides?
My other issue is your stance on Health Care. The fine State of CA has many illegal immigrants on its soil, (in fact it depends on those people for many "lowly" jobs IIRC). Are you planning on REAL citizens covering the insurance costs for these illegal immigrants and their children? Don't you see this as a large enough burden on the population as it is?
no. it's a device that can communicate with another device without having to be manually passed over a reader.
A barcode must be passed directly over a barcode reader (and it is already difficult enough to get them to scan -- USCAN), and RFID tags can be read from a distance.
I *can* defeat the effectiveness of the RFID tag, but 99.999% of the population doesn't know any better.
That's the point.
That means you accept students SSN as a valid proof of identity?
We go above and beyond was is required of us by FERPA.
you are not so much smarter than everyone else that you are the only one who gets it
I want you to show me where in my post I said that I was?
I want you to get a clue, and re-read and then re-think what you said. Obviously you are trolling.
What I did say was that NO ONE PAYS ATTENTION to this stuff. No one reads anything outside of the sports section and the front page. No one is scouring the net looking for what information they can find about what is going on "behind the scenes".
People these days want to watch their "reality TV" a "escape reality" (I have heard people say that too many times not to laugh).
They want to ignore what is really out there and would rather be forcefed a bunch of made up, scripted, bullshit on network/cable TV.
I might not be smarted, but I am certainly more informed and more concerned (and rightly so) of anything that might infringe on the anonymous past we had.
With Ridge's approval for RFID, the food and drug companies and retailers hope to win over a wary public. They also may get legal protection under the Safety Act of 2002 -- a tort-reform law that offers blanket lawsuit protections to makers of antiterrorism devices, should those devices fail during a terrorist attack.
What major backlash is coming from the "weary public"? I have said this a billion times before. No one outside of our geek culture has any idea what this is. If it's not on Network TV's latest reality show, it's not real. I am too lazy to find my other posts about my attempted discussions with co-workers about their privacy being invaded with Patriot I and II and how they look at me as if I am speaking Greek. "You mean you do something other than watch Paradise Hotel?" (this isn't a slight exaggeration).
People have NO FUCKING clue what is going on in the world around them. I deal w/100's of people daily who freely give out their SSN to me to look up their records. I specifically ask if they know their student ID first (even though it's a unique identifier, it's not as bad as just throwing out your SSN everywhere) and people just utter, "uhhh, no, but I know my SSN!"
So if people are so willing to just give up their nationally unique identifier, you really think that they are paying attention to RFIDs? Go outside of your cube and ask any non-geek, "do you know what an RFID and how it impacts you personally?" or possibly, "do you know what the Patriot Act is?" I guarantee that they won't have a clue what an RFID is and they will say something like "do you also talk in letters?" and they will seriously believe that the Patriot Act is something having to do with the military giving missles to another country (if they are even THAT clueful).
Post your results here please, I am seriously interested if this is just a localized phenominon here where I live (my gf, her co-workers, my friends, and my co-workers are 100% clueless when it comes to anything privacy related), I would like to know what the rest of the non-geek world sees.
Well, speaking from experience of working for ATTBI I know that no matter how much a tech knows there is very little that he/she could have done to help you.
Call times aside, you had a strict list of things that you could help with and nothing outside of that.
Powercycle, check connections, restart, release/renew, send to Tier 2. That's how it worked. Anything outside of that was considered in excess of what you were allowed to do and you were dinged on points for it.
ATTBI techs were trained to "get you off the phone", whether that meant to powercycle/reset remotely and get you online, or sent you to tier 2.
It's not a lax hiring process either. They just have an incredibly high turnover. Either people don't come to work, come in late, or just hate their job so VERY much that they leave, they lose people FAST.
what does the kernel have to do w/a distribution version?
Not EVERYONE sits on whatever kernel version ships with their distribution.. In fact, only people w/o any idea of how to use Linux would do that.
The first thing you do is upgrade to the latest of EVERYTHING including the kernel.
I have no idea. I could only imagine that they feel that they can somehow back out of the GPL.
I mean, if they are going to continue allowing the 2.4.13 kernel code to be posted on their site which forces them to accept the GPL through 2.4.13 I can't see how they wouldn't have taken it down months ago. It seems like a rather large hole if the GPL stands up, why would they take that risk unless they "knew something we didn't"?
SCO has shipped these products for many years, in some cases for nearly two decades, and this is the first time that IBM has ever raised an issue about patent infringement in these products.
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And SCO has been supporting Linux for quite a number of years, and still has the 2.4.13 kernel sources available on their site. Amazingly enough, they haven't removed that from their site, allowing for Linux to be used free of SCO prior to and including version 2.4.13.
If IBM wants customers to accept the GPL risk...
It is now even more obvious that SCO feels that the GPL is too weak to stand up in court. I think that IBM has already planned for this and is prepared to prove that the GPL will hold up. I just find it extremely interesting that SCO supported the GPL up until 2.4.13 and no FANTASTIC strides have been made since that point in the code that *we think* they are trying to claim is their IP.
I guess that SCO is basically screwed unless they can some how force the GPL to break-down in court.
Just my worthless
perl wrappers? Great, just what the newbies need, ANOTHER fucking dependency.