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In short: If you're a hard-core Java (or to a lesser extent, C#) developer who thinks Ruby is something that goes on a ring, Pythons will bite you, and Smalltalk is something you have to do at parties, you are in for a rude awakening.
If you half ass your job in any professional field, you are in for a rude awakening. This is not news.
The more I read crap like this, the more I'm glad I've pretty much stopped buying video games. Oh, I admit, it's not strictly because of this bullshit ( although it does play a large part of it. Who wants to go research to find out if the game you want to buy has intrusive copy protection? ), games in general have stopped being interesting.
Give me back the days of Sam and Max. Grim Fandago. Even the old wing commanders were good games.
Were I in the game industry, I would be very careful about what i put my customers through. And I'd be irritated to no end for other companies doing this, as they scare potential customers ( like myself ) away.
Redmond is promoting Vista as a landmark improvement in Windows security. Yet Jim Allchin also told CRN in a recent interview that there will be no anti-virus software.
Way to put a spin on that one. However, let's not forget MS is getting it's butt chewed off for monopolistic behavior in a few countries ( not that they have any danger of that in their home country ). If they were to include an AV as part of the base OS, AV companies would be lining up to take shots at MS.
In that case your boss should be perfectly happy with an open source product.
In a pure OSS enviroment, I would agree. However, I have to work with windows. Regardless of where the fault lies, this is problematic on the best of days.
MS will simply have changed the standard/protocol/whatever in some way that thier own prior implementations will be tolerant of but Samba will not. Samba will not be busted, MS' own implementation of thier own technology (or other peoples tech, kerberos for example) is what will be busted.
And, practically, does this make a difference? Can I look my boss in the eye and tell him that the mail server doesn't know who it's users are, but it's ok because it's MS's fault?
It does, but mostly you run in to them when dealing with the telco side of things.
problems such as echo's, unstable after a couple of days.
Echo isn't a problem if you get quality hardware, and my current asterisk server ( which I am talking on right now as a matter of fact ) has an uptime of over a month.
Or is it stable like Apache or linux kind of stability?
I would say it's about as stable as apache, if not more so. I can't remember the last time I had * just crash out for no reason. It'll either segment fault out at start or when you do something funky to the underlying system, but not during normal operation.
Most of that was server and related costs. I spent about 6k on twin servers with a beefy UPS. If one goes down, I'll lose all current calls, but the phones and everything will be right back up as the second server takes over.
About 2k was for phones. This was a small installation with some very specific needs.
I have used and deployed * in a number of setups ( from large businesses to home ), and you folks should really understand something: This is the killer linux app.
Samba is great. qmail/sendmail/ect...is wonderful as well. But, as far as getting linux in the door, this is the application that will do it. For example, my first * implementation cost about 8grand ( parts and service ).
For a similar, but far less featured pbx from avaya, I was quoted 40grand. And that was a quote. Anybody here that has worked with phone venders should be chuckling right now at that number, as it amounts to a pie in the sky dream.
So, for my small business, I saved them 30 grand right up front ( likely more ). On top of that, as their needs change, so can the phone system. Just the other day they found out I was taking my desk phone home ( to play with, but also get my phone calls ). When I told them why, they were floored that the system could do that, no matter how many times I told them it could.
Larger businesses will see far more dramatic cost savings, and get more features to boot.
Re:That reminds me... (warning: a little offtopic)
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I mean, I'm with Comcast myself...but I'm sure they'll be following in the same steps as Bellsouth pretty soon too
Actually, if they are smart, they'll do the opposite. This is a huge opportunity for the cable companies, who don't have a vested interest to hold the voip down.
This country has some pretty odd values, if you sit down and think about it. Next to survival, sex is the second strongest instinct. Kids are curious about it even BEFORE they hit puberty, afterwards it's all they can think about some days.
Instead of telling them they are wrong for wanting to learn about it, how about we guide them as we are best able? We show them how to be safe, caution them against the dangers and pitfalls, but otherwise give them free access to any material they think they want ( after a certain age ) to learn?
I have a strong belief that a great deal of the sexual crimes commited in this country is due to repressed sexual urges. A teen age boy is told he's not supposed to masterbait, it's shameful. He becomes ashamed of who he is, and it happens for so long that he needs to shame other people to have sexual release. Maybe that comes out as child molestation or rape, who knows?
We don't need to protect our children from porn, we need to protect them from the politicians.
Stop using music from RIAA members. For the smaller stations, that may be suicide, but can you imagine if Clearwire instituted this policy? Or XM radio?
Yes, that they've been using Unix and variants for decades, and while they may not feel confident of Linux on servers, they work in an environment where *nix is extremely common place, and very likely desirable as compared to alien operating systems like Windows.
Their choice of course, their money..oh wait, it's *my* money ( tax dollars ).
This kind of blanket policy is scary. Servers die, services need to go somewhere. Instead of wasting a couple grand per box on the OS alone, they should be investigating what's causing the issues they don't like and fixing them.
Now, I hear you saying, that's not their job. They just want something that works. So do I. So does everybody. It's likely more cost effective to pay a bounty to a programmer to fix these errors instead of paying for more licenses.
At the end of the day, the mighty buck rules. I'm just concerned they are not spending it as efficiently as they could due to lack of knowledge.
Slavery and genocide are very strongly supported by the bible. Treating others as you would be treated, charity and generosity are as well. The most important ( in the writer's minds ) was submitting to any atrocities you had to suffer in this life since you would be rewarded in the next. It's extremely pro ruler and anti-populace moreso than anything from a moral perspective which makes perfect sense given who wrote it.
I never said *what* lessons I took away from it. You can learn from the bad just as well as from the good. More so most times.
The problem is that there is no possible way to put one type above the other without rejecting the fundamental *religious* aspect.
Which is something I did a long time ago. I don't respect organized religion, nor religion as a whole. I mean, if it keeps people happy and stops them from commiting murders, then knock yourself out ( which is only a modern concept about religion and still isn't universally embraced ). Just leave me out of it.
You don't have to be religious to be spiritual. To have your own set of beliefs that you believe as strongly in as your religious counterparts. The only difference is I'm not trying to save anybody and everyone else isn't going to hell for having different beliefs.
There are lessons to be learned everywhere you look. The bible just has some really good ones to teach.
Personally, I view the bible as more a book with stories meant to teach lessons. I don't view them as factual accounts of what happened, any more than I believe any other tale or folklore from other cultures are factual accounts of what happened.
However, they have a moral and a lesson to be taught. That's the important thing i believe.
But what does you being "impressed" have to do with the existence of God? Does your belief (or lack of) hinge on how cool or impressive God has to be. If God were an absent minded professor who created a complex system and let it carry forth, but in many ways has no idea why everything happens the way it does now (since it's "evolved" beyond his original scope) make the concept of a creator less likely?
For the purposes of belief, does it matter what I base my faith off of? Religion and beliefs are merely tools to get people through there day, when you come right down to it. I'm not saying there isn't more to it. I am saying we have absolutely no facts with which to play with, so the best we can do is go off of gut feelings.
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In short: If you're a hard-core Java (or to a lesser extent, C#) developer who thinks Ruby is something that goes on a ring, Pythons will bite you, and Smalltalk is something you have to do at parties, you are in for a rude awakening.
If you half ass your job in any professional field, you are in for a rude awakening. This is not news.
The more I read crap like this, the more I'm glad I've pretty much stopped buying video games. Oh, I admit, it's not strictly because of this bullshit ( although it does play a large part of it. Who wants to go research to find out if the game you want to buy has intrusive copy protection? ), games in general have stopped being interesting.
Give me back the days of Sam and Max. Grim Fandago. Even the old wing commanders were good games.
Were I in the game industry, I would be very careful about what i put my customers through. And I'd be irritated to no end for other companies doing this, as they scare potential customers ( like myself ) away.
Redmond is promoting Vista as a landmark improvement in Windows security. Yet Jim Allchin also told CRN in a recent interview that there will be no anti-virus software.
Way to put a spin on that one. However, let's not forget MS is getting it's butt chewed off for monopolistic behavior in a few countries ( not that they have any danger of that in their home country ). If they were to include an AV as part of the base OS, AV companies would be lining up to take shots at MS.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
In that case your boss should be perfectly happy with an open source product.
In a pure OSS enviroment, I would agree. However, I have to work with windows. Regardless of where the fault lies, this is problematic on the best of days.
The mods need to know the subject before they mod.
Clueless bastards.
"Now. What are you going to do about it?"
*smile* "Nothing. I just wanted to distract you so she could get behind you"
Dumbass mods.
Isn't the fact that "you have somebody to blame when things go wrong" a strong selling point for proprietary software?
In so far that implies a guarantee that things won't go wrong.
End of the day, my boss doesn't care why something broke. She's just more concerned with why it's still not working.
MS will simply have changed the standard/protocol/whatever in some way that thier own prior implementations will be tolerant of but Samba will not. Samba will not be busted, MS' own implementation of thier own technology (or other peoples tech, kerberos for example) is what will be busted.
And, practically, does this make a difference? Can I look my boss in the eye and tell him that the mail server doesn't know who it's users are, but it's ok because it's MS's fault?
Let us not forget some of my personal favorites.
I heard that * has some quirks;
It does, but mostly you run in to them when dealing with the telco side of things.
problems such as echo's, unstable after a couple of days.
Echo isn't a problem if you get quality hardware, and my current asterisk server ( which I am talking on right now as a matter of fact ) has an uptime of over a month.
Or is it stable like Apache or linux kind of stability?
I would say it's about as stable as apache, if not more so. I can't remember the last time I had * just crash out for no reason. It'll either segment fault out at start or when you do something funky to the underlying system, but not during normal operation.
You post displays a delightful amount of ignorance, combine with a fruity blend of idiocy.
Well done.
( for the laymen: * is short term for asterisk )
Most of that was server and related costs. I spent about 6k on twin servers with a beefy UPS. If one goes down, I'll lose all current calls, but the phones and everything will be right back up as the second server takes over.
About 2k was for phones. This was a small installation with some very specific needs.
I have used and deployed * in a number of setups ( from large businesses to home ), and you folks should really understand something: This is the killer linux app.
Samba is great. qmail/sendmail/ect...is wonderful as well. But, as far as getting linux in the door, this is the application that will do it. For example, my first * implementation cost about 8grand ( parts and service ).
For a similar, but far less featured pbx from avaya, I was quoted 40grand. And that was a quote. Anybody here that has worked with phone venders should be chuckling right now at that number, as it amounts to a pie in the sky dream.
So, for my small business, I saved them 30 grand right up front ( likely more ). On top of that, as their needs change, so can the phone system. Just the other day they found out I was taking my desk phone home ( to play with, but also get my phone calls ). When I told them why, they were floored that the system could do that, no matter how many times I told them it could.
Larger businesses will see far more dramatic cost savings, and get more features to boot.
I remember that game! ...
Christ I'm old.
So you think VOIP is the real reason behind all of this? That's an interesting thought... that's very possible now that I think about it.
Oh, without a doubt. VoIP has the potential to kill regular phone companies. The telco's know this, and they are setting up ways to block it.
I mean, I'm with Comcast myself...but I'm sure they'll be following in the same steps as Bellsouth pretty soon too
Actually, if they are smart, they'll do the opposite. This is a huge opportunity for the cable companies, who don't have a vested interest to hold the voip down.
This country has some pretty odd values, if you sit down and think about it. Next to survival, sex is the second strongest instinct. Kids are curious about it even BEFORE they hit puberty, afterwards it's all they can think about some days.
Instead of telling them they are wrong for wanting to learn about it, how about we guide them as we are best able? We show them how to be safe, caution them against the dangers and pitfalls, but otherwise give them free access to any material they think they want ( after a certain age ) to learn?
I have a strong belief that a great deal of the sexual crimes commited in this country is due to repressed sexual urges. A teen age boy is told he's not supposed to masterbait, it's shameful. He becomes ashamed of who he is, and it happens for so long that he needs to shame other people to have sexual release. Maybe that comes out as child molestation or rape, who knows?
We don't need to protect our children from porn, we need to protect them from the politicians.
Stop using music from RIAA members. For the smaller stations, that may be suicide, but can you imagine if Clearwire instituted this policy? Or XM radio?
Yes, that they've been using Unix and variants for decades, and while they may not feel confident of Linux on servers, they work in an environment where *nix is extremely common place, and very likely desirable as compared to alien operating systems like Windows.
Their choice of course, their money..oh wait, it's *my* money ( tax dollars ).
This kind of blanket policy is scary. Servers die, services need to go somewhere. Instead of wasting a couple grand per box on the OS alone, they should be investigating what's causing the issues they don't like and fixing them.
Now, I hear you saying, that's not their job. They just want something that works. So do I. So does everybody. It's likely more cost effective to pay a bounty to a programmer to fix these errors instead of paying for more licenses.
At the end of the day, the mighty buck rules. I'm just concerned they are not spending it as efficiently as they could due to lack of knowledge.
It's ironic, isn't it, that most companies and corporations find the exact opposite to be true.
Says something about Nasa, don't it?
Reviewers can't see the movie before they review it, showering it with praise for being the best thing since sliced bread.
To me, this is only the next logical step. They hardly glance at the movies they review now, so I fail to see how this will put a damper on things.
Slavery and genocide are very strongly supported by the bible.
Treating others as you would be treated, charity and generosity are as well.
The most important ( in the writer's minds ) was submitting to any atrocities you had to suffer in this life since you would be rewarded in the next.
It's extremely pro ruler and anti-populace moreso than anything from a moral perspective which makes perfect sense given who wrote it.
I never said *what* lessons I took away from it. You can learn from the bad just as well as from the good. More so most times.
The problem is that there is no possible way to put one type above the other without rejecting the fundamental *religious* aspect.
Which is something I did a long time ago. I don't respect organized religion, nor religion as a whole. I mean, if it keeps people happy and stops them from commiting murders, then knock yourself out ( which is only a modern concept about religion and still isn't universally embraced ). Just leave me out of it.
You don't have to be religious to be spiritual. To have your own set of beliefs that you believe as strongly in as your religious counterparts. The only difference is I'm not trying to save anybody and everyone else isn't going to hell for having different beliefs.
There are lessons to be learned everywhere you look. The bible just has some really good ones to teach.
( Off topic ahead, you've been warned )
Personally, I view the bible as more a book with stories meant to teach lessons. I don't view them as factual accounts of what happened, any more than I believe any other tale or folklore from other cultures are factual accounts of what happened.
However, they have a moral and a lesson to be taught. That's the important thing i believe.
But what does you being "impressed" have to do with the existence of God? Does your belief (or lack of) hinge on how cool or impressive God has to be. If God were an absent minded professor who created a complex system and let it carry forth, but in many ways has no idea why everything happens the way it does now (since it's "evolved" beyond his original scope) make the concept of a creator less likely?
For the purposes of belief, does it matter what I base my faith off of? Religion and beliefs are merely tools to get people through there day, when you come right down to it. I'm not saying there isn't more to it. I am saying we have absolutely no facts with which to play with, so the best we can do is go off of gut feelings.