It would be very interesting to see something like Notes 8 specifically customized for Ubuntu 8. I theorize such a setup could drastically reduce IT costs. Admit it, you just have an octal fetish.
I never liked Domino. Especially when Websphere was first coming out. It seemed IBM was in a weird spot. They always touted Domino/Notes as an application deployment platform, not just a collaboration tool. They really muddied the waters in their own offerings.
I don't see how Domino really has a place anymore with all the new standards that have evolved and the importance of interoperability. I thought Domino already was put on the shelf next to Token Ring.
If you're a large business Domino may still make sense in some situations. If you're a small operation you're going to want to stick with a platform that is more familiar and easier to find contractors for, like Exchange. Many companies do fine with the smtp/pop emails they get with their 6.99/mo hosting. For those that want more, there are a number of good companies that provide Exchange based hosting.
On top of all the various Exchange based hosts, MS Office Small business Live even has a form of email hosting in their package that is $14.95 per year or something like that after the first free year. It includes up to 100 email addresses. Google apps provides a good solution for small business email, calendaring and document sharing. They have a paid version for $50/mailbox/year with some more features.
If you're big enough to host things yourself, or if regulations such as Hippa necesitate it, Exchange is pretty easy, open source alternatives like Open-Xchange are out there though I can't comment on them. If you'd like to try some good messaging, colaboration, calendaring, IM, etc tools you can download and use Sun's Java Enterprise System for free and sign up for a subscription if you need support. Pricing was $100/emp/year a few years ago but not sure what it is now. It has a connector for MS Outlook as well. JES also has some other applications that may be useful as well.
The only people that I can imagine still using Domino are shops that haven't been interested in changing their current setups.
IBM should have open sourced Domino/Notes a long time ago if they wanted to keep MS Exchange from taking over their market share. Don't know what they really could do now though. The majority of people on windows are going to want to use Outlook, period. People with a large number of employees and remote clients might lean to Domino for better performance and maintenance. People using linux will look for open source solutions.
Sun came up with this $100/employee pricing a while ago and while I don't have any numbers I suspect that this has been pretty good for them. This is just an observation that I've been seeing a lot of Sun's default favicon.ico's showing up in sites over that past couple of years. They seemed to have had the right idea with this pricing, as IBM seems to confirm. Now Sun has taken it a step further and they are giving away the software and you pay for a support subscription only if you want.
"Some Kind of Monster" had the opposite effect on me. I was a fan for many years but I think the black album was the last one I bought and went to a concert for.
Kurt Hammet and Lars Ulrich pretty much came across as the people I expected, which in the case of Lars, isn't a good thing.
James Hetfeild came across as some sort of baby. Seriously, after seeing it a second time I was convinced this "Monster" they were referring too was some sort of male PMS.
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It always makes me laugh when people say they upgraded a system for less money and more power. Every time I upgrade my computer it's cheaper and I get a lot more power. That's just the way computers work.
" Seems like a heck of a lot of money to spend on developing Asterisk's replacement for SIP"
Your joke aside, the 200 million being spent isn't new money being spent on AIX. It's really just existing resources being pooled together under a new name. Just a marketting ploy. From the article:
"While the figure represents existing salaries and equipment drawn together under one roof, it also represents some shift in emphasis by IBM from Linux back to its mature Unix operating system."
I don't know what you uconsider low cost workstations, but something starting at 5,575 doesn't seem to qualify as low cost. If you want to run a real Unix on a supported platform Sun's workstations start out a lot cheaper and similarly loaded workstations are cheaper. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process= SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=48612 AMD workstations start out as little as 895 and UltraSparc based workstations go for as little as 1,395. They can run Solaris 10 as well as RedHat and Suse. Similarly, you can get Sparc and AMD based servers from Sun for under a grand. Being able to run multiple lpars may be cost effective if you want to run multiple lpars but if you want to have one affordable server for development.
I think ID proponents shoot themselves in the foot. If you look at life on here and conclude that it is so complex that there must have been some sort of intelligent designer who created it. If this were true, the entity/being that was this intelligent designer would also be complex and there must have been an intelligent designer that created our intelligent designer. This disrupts the notion that god is at the top of the food chain.
Whether God, aliens or some magical watchmaker had a hand in creating life is irrelevant. It is something that cannot be proved or disproved. At least not at this time. While there is no definative proof that we evolved from monkeys or fish or an ameoba, there is compelling evidence that shows that life grows and adapts. Putting God in the mix interferes with the seperation of church and state. There is no place for God in science unless we can prove that God exists, not just use it as an assumption. That doesn't mean that we can't have God as part of our lives and our beliefs. Even the late Pope John Paul II said evelution was more than just a hypothesis and the Vatican's astronomer opposes intelligent design as a science and says it doesn't belong in a classroom. The current Pope seems to agree with ID but if it were up to me, I wouldn't back one theory that supported on theological premise and poked holes in another more important one.
When you consider how many silicon valley start ups started and how little financing they had in the begining you could start up a dozen or so startups and maybe one or two of them might start out to be blockbusters.
"I think if it ultimately gets out of hand, we will just blacklist all of china traffic at the backbones. They like to play by themselves phyically... so lets just help them out virtually too."
Uhm... I think big companies that rely heavily on Chinese imports and outsourcing services might not be too happy about that.
Slightly tangential observation but a few months ago when there was talk about a Sun DB there were some Sun bloggers talking about acquiring Ingres. Then recently there was the story about Sun looking at PostgreSQL. This anouncement from CA makes it seem like they were probably shopping it around to people around the time Sun was talking about a Sun DB and they might have been considering it since Sun didn't buy it makes it seem that we can expect them to really get behind pgsql.
"The only two crews where no sex is not going to be a problem is an all male or an all female crew with no homo- and bisexuals, and only if there is enough porn on board."
Yeah... that theory has been working out well in the prison system and in all girl colleges.
"The largest database vendor in the world just confirmed that the market for open source databases exists."
Looks like they forgot two letters. I think they meant to say the market for open source databases existed.:) If MS or SCO or whoever bought OSDL or hired some other key linux kernel developers or Ubuntu I don't think they'd say "see, the market for open source kernels and OS's exists!" At least they didn't say that when MS hired drobbins.
"It does say Java-based programs, implying something running in the browser"
Java based programs doesn't imply running in the browser. More than likely, if it's java based and a program of that size it will be a WebStart. WebStart is a software delivery mechanism. When you click on a link to launch a WebStart application it will download the app and store it locally. The next time you run the application it will launch it from the local drive. If there's an update it will notify you and you can download a new version.
The application is just a standard java client app that runs on your jvm. The only difference is how it's packaged and linked online.
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"Without the GPL to force it to release the fixes (if and only if it distributes the fixed program to begin with), it's quite likely that it won't do so, because its shareholders won't let it give up a competitive advantage."
Yeah, and that explains why Sun hasn't released anything as open source or contributed anything to open source software. Dumbass:)
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"Nope. While it is true that more people can use the code and fix bugs... there is nothing saying that those bug fixes must be released to the general public."
Ask people what type of envioronment they would like to be part of, one where they are forced to do something or one where they have to choose giving back and participating in. I think you'll find that people are more fulfilled when they feel they do things of their own volition.
While this may cause some problems with people that want to take more than they give, I feel it gives the people that do contribute a better experience. It also allows commercial entities to participate more freely. MS might not have contributed anything back to the BSD TCP/IP stack (or maybe they did not sure just using as an example) but the bragging rights and validation of the quality of work still helps.
MS helps RIAA protect their music in an effort to make more profit. When MS and the music industry try to colaborate the RIAA is still trying to get as much as it can rather than trying to be reasonable and understanding the whole picture.
Microsoft implements content contrl (aka anti-piracy) measures in their software and formats so that the music industry won't have to worry about the billions of dollars they claim to be losing. Now they go and say that Microsoft is charging them too much?
You give people an inch they try and take a mile.
People like that shouldn't complain that others just want to give them a few more inches from behind.
"Imagine if the Department of Energy applied those resources to improving or replacing gasoline, supplying California's nearly-insatiable demand, creating more efficient power..."
"What on earth has this go to do with open source? If they mean Linux, all this is saying is that Oracle gurantees it runs on Linux but that has been the case for 5 years. I think the editors should read and understand stories before posting."
Hello pot, meet kettle.
I guess I can see how you got confused that this was about Linux. I mean just because the story didn't even mention an operating systems, let alone Linux, you were keen to read between the lines and figure out since they mentioned Open Source and IBM that this was about linux and not the two open source projects that were actually mentioned in the article.:)
If anyone missed the sarcastic tone, the point is the summary doesn't reflect the headline. Hell the article headline doesn't reflect the article. There's one small line how Oracle is going to make it easier to integrate Sprinng and Hybernate into their app server. That's the only Open Source bit.
It shouldn't be a big deal to use Oracle's J2EE applications on WebSphere. Had they written their applications to use only J2EE specified classes/methods/packages there shouldn't be a major problem porting one application to another app server. Unfortunately a lot of App Server vendors write their own extensions to the specification that if used causes this problem. It's good that the vendors are inovating before something even becomes a JSR but it can cause portability problems.
Oracle's app server hasn't gotten much momentum behind it. Some people may use it if they already are using Oracle and don't care too much about their app server but the App server market leaders are BEA and IBM. Some of the cool features in Oracle RAC depend on an Oracle App server. So if you're commited to a different app server then you're going to have some issues to work with. I think some of their transaction failover stuff depends on OAS.
What Oracle should do is make modifications to their application so that it's a pure J2EE application that can run on any certified app server. That seems like the better thing to do. Hopefully that's what they do and this is just some PR bullshit with IBM.
When Oracle announcces they're apps will run on JBoss and any other open source appservers that have been certified then you can say Oracle is warming up to open source.
Finally, IBM is putting it's money where it's mouth is. "Oracle warming up to open source..." "oracle applications to run on WebSphere" Guess that means IBM is open sourcing WebSphere?? I must have missed that bit of news.
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He's talking about the client, you're talking about the server.
I never liked Domino. Especially when Websphere was first coming out. It seemed IBM was in a weird spot. They always touted Domino/Notes as an application deployment platform, not just a collaboration tool. They really muddied the waters in their own offerings.
I don't see how Domino really has a place anymore with all the new standards that have evolved and the importance of interoperability. I thought Domino already was put on the shelf next to Token Ring.
If you're a large business Domino may still make sense in some situations. If you're a small operation you're going to want to stick with a platform that is more familiar and easier to find contractors for, like Exchange. Many companies do fine with the smtp/pop emails they get with their 6.99/mo hosting. For those that want more, there are a number of good companies that provide Exchange based hosting.
On top of all the various Exchange based hosts, MS Office Small business Live even has a form of email hosting in their package that is $14.95 per year or something like that after the first free year. It includes up to 100 email addresses. Google apps provides a good solution for small business email, calendaring and document sharing. They have a paid version for $50/mailbox/year with some more features.
If you're big enough to host things yourself, or if regulations such as Hippa necesitate it, Exchange is pretty easy, open source alternatives like Open-Xchange are out there though I can't comment on them. If you'd like to try some good messaging, colaboration, calendaring, IM, etc tools you can download and use Sun's Java Enterprise System for free and sign up for a subscription if you need support. Pricing was $100/emp/year a few years ago but not sure what it is now. It has a connector for MS Outlook as well. JES also has some other applications that may be useful as well.
The only people that I can imagine still using Domino are shops that haven't been interested in changing their current setups.
IBM should have open sourced Domino/Notes a long time ago if they wanted to keep MS Exchange from taking over their market share. Don't know what they really could do now though. The majority of people on windows are going to want to use Outlook, period. People with a large number of employees and remote clients might lean to Domino for better performance and maintenance. People using linux will look for open source solutions.
Sun came up with this $100/employee pricing a while ago and while I don't have any numbers I suspect that this has been pretty good for them. This is just an observation that I've been seeing a lot of Sun's default favicon.ico's showing up in sites over that past couple of years. They seemed to have had the right idea with this pricing, as IBM seems to confirm. Now Sun has taken it a step further and they are giving away the software and you pay for a support subscription only if you want.
"Some Kind of Monster" had the opposite effect on me. I was a fan for many years but I think the black album was the last one I bought and went to a concert for. Kurt Hammet and Lars Ulrich pretty much came across as the people I expected, which in the case of Lars, isn't a good thing. James Hetfeild came across as some sort of baby. Seriously, after seeing it a second time I was convinced this "Monster" they were referring too was some sort of male PMS.
Well that rules out a migration from Solaris since RedHat would have had no problem naming Sun as the vendor they replaced.
HP-UX they might be a bit quiet about since their close to HP and definately if it was AIX RedHat wouldn't want to antagonize IBM.
It looks like it was HP-UX ased on this snippet from http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:9WrQ3EspDRwJ:w ww.academy.faa.gov/ama200/S20Catalog.doc+faa+%22tr affic+flow+management+infrastructure%22+ibm&hl=en& gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
It always makes me laugh when people say they upgraded a system for less money and more power. Every time I upgrade my computer it's cheaper and I get a lot more power. That's just the way computers work.Your joke aside, the 200 million being spent isn't new money being spent on AIX. It's really just existing resources being pooled together under a new name. Just a marketting ploy. From the article:
I don't know what you uconsider low cost workstations, but something starting at 5,575 doesn't seem to qualify as low cost. If you want to run a real Unix on a supported platform Sun's workstations start out a lot cheaper and similarly loaded workstations are cheaper. http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process= SunStore&cmdViewProduct_CP&catid=48612 AMD workstations start out as little as 895 and UltraSparc based workstations go for as little as 1,395. They can run Solaris 10 as well as RedHat and Suse. Similarly, you can get Sparc and AMD based servers from Sun for under a grand. Being able to run multiple lpars may be cost effective if you want to run multiple lpars but if you want to have one affordable server for development.
Whether God, aliens or some magical watchmaker had a hand in creating life is irrelevant. It is something that cannot be proved or disproved. At least not at this time. While there is no definative proof that we evolved from monkeys or fish or an ameoba, there is compelling evidence that shows that life grows and adapts. Putting God in the mix interferes with the seperation of church and state. There is no place for God in science unless we can prove that God exists, not just use it as an assumption. That doesn't mean that we can't have God as part of our lives and our beliefs. Even the late Pope John Paul II said evelution was more than just a hypothesis and the Vatican's astronomer opposes intelligent design as a science and says it doesn't belong in a classroom. The current Pope seems to agree with ID but if it were up to me, I wouldn't back one theory that supported on theological premise and poked holes in another more important one.
When you consider how many silicon valley start ups started and how little financing they had in the begining you could start up a dozen or so startups and maybe one or two of them might start out to be blockbusters.
Uhm... I think big companies that rely heavily on Chinese imports and outsourcing services might not be too happy about that.
Yeah, Garnett & Helfrich Capital probably has highly trained technical staff throughout the world too ready to support the Ingress cash cow?!?!?!?!
Slightly tangential observation but a few months ago when there was talk about a Sun DB there were some Sun bloggers talking about acquiring Ingres. Then recently there was the story about Sun looking at PostgreSQL. This anouncement from CA makes it seem like they were probably shopping it around to people around the time Sun was talking about a Sun DB and they might have been considering it since Sun didn't buy it makes it seem that we can expect them to really get behind pgsql.
SGI machines are being replaced with cheap x86 clusters running Linux. In the race for GNU domination is this a case of friendly fire?
Yeah... that theory has been working out well in the prison system and in all girl colleges.
Yeah... now we only have to worry about why IBM settled other lawsuits and made the victims keep quiet about the IBM case
Looks like they forgot two letters. I think they meant to say the market for open source databases existed. :) If MS or SCO or whoever bought OSDL or hired some other key linux kernel developers or Ubuntu I don't think they'd say "see, the market for open source kernels and OS's exists!" At least they didn't say that when MS hired drobbins.
Java based programs doesn't imply running in the browser. More than likely, if it's java based and a program of that size it will be a WebStart. WebStart is a software delivery mechanism. When you click on a link to launch a WebStart application it will download the app and store it locally. The next time you run the application it will launch it from the local drive. If there's an update it will notify you and you can download a new version.
The application is just a standard java client app that runs on your jvm. The only difference is how it's packaged and linked online.
Yeah, and that explains why Sun hasn't released anything as open source or contributed anything to open source software. Dumbass :)
Ask people what type of envioronment they would like to be part of, one where they are forced to do something or one where they have to choose giving back and participating in. I think you'll find that people are more fulfilled when they feel they do things of their own volition.
While this may cause some problems with people that want to take more than they give, I feel it gives the people that do contribute a better experience. It also allows commercial entities to participate more freely. MS might not have contributed anything back to the BSD TCP/IP stack (or maybe they did not sure just using as an example) but the bragging rights and validation of the quality of work still helps.
MS helps RIAA protect their music in an effort to make more profit. When MS and the music industry try to colaborate the RIAA is still trying to get as much as it can rather than trying to be reasonable and understanding the whole picture.
You give people an inch they try and take a mile.
People like that shouldn't complain that others just want to give them a few more inches from behind.
Imagine if they used it to make ice cream!
Hello pot, meet kettle.
I guess I can see how you got confused that this was about Linux. I mean just because the story didn't even mention an operating systems, let alone Linux, you were keen to read between the lines and figure out since they mentioned Open Source and IBM that this was about linux and not the two open source projects that were actually mentioned in the article. :)
It shouldn't be a big deal to use Oracle's J2EE applications on WebSphere. Had they written their applications to use only J2EE specified classes/methods/packages there shouldn't be a major problem porting one application to another app server. Unfortunately a lot of App Server vendors write their own extensions to the specification that if used causes this problem. It's good that the vendors are inovating before something even becomes a JSR but it can cause portability problems.
Oracle's app server hasn't gotten much momentum behind it. Some people may use it if they already are using Oracle and don't care too much about their app server but the App server market leaders are BEA and IBM. Some of the cool features in Oracle RAC depend on an Oracle App server. So if you're commited to a different app server then you're going to have some issues to work with. I think some of their transaction failover stuff depends on OAS.
What Oracle should do is make modifications to their application so that it's a pure J2EE application that can run on any certified app server. That seems like the better thing to do. Hopefully that's what they do and this is just some PR bullshit with IBM.
When Oracle announcces they're apps will run on JBoss and any other open source appservers that have been certified then you can say Oracle is warming up to open source.
Yeah I only read the summary.