Imagine a browser that ships with database (these days modern processors can run MySQL or SQL Server Desktop Edition pretty easily) and has top-notch WebDAV support.
Now imagine that unlike Firefox's relatively sucky file manager capabilities (well, it does give you a list of files if you type file:///), this browser's file manager look more like Nautilus and can do local files + WebDAV seamlessly.
Now imagine you have a rich control toolkit, like the WHAT-WG is cooking up, and that applications using these rich controls can be cached locally and take advantage of the local relational data store (the built-in database) to store data when the user is offline.
Just for kicks, add in a scheduler that can reliably move large files across localstoragewebstore.
By now, you have enough 'richness' in this 'browser' that it can with some justification call itself a GUI shell. Throw in an IM and email client and a large percentage of PC (including Mac) users wouldn't need much else.
Now stop imaging. Look at Internet Explorer. Now look at the security issues. Start realising that the integration is a weakness, not a strength.
And as a customer, I tend to send such requests in ODF. If you aren't compatible with me, sucks:). A 100 large server order isn't something to be sneezed at:).
My point is that you are barking up the wrong tree in the first place. As an end customer, I only care about you delivering real security. As an admin, I only care about delivering real security.
See, I don't care about the money you spend on securing Windows, or Linux, or other operating system of choice. If I don't see code and configuration audit results, you are pretty much screwed.
Grabbing data and making it public? That is wrong. However, if I find that your site is vulnerable to SQL injection, and I don't notify you, that would be wrong of me. I don't go about directly attacking sites, but I do use special characters in a lot of places. If one of those makes it likely for me to see something which results in me suspecting such a vulnerability, I would like to be able to prove to myself that the site is secure (or not).
I don't want to be paid, I just want you to fix your configuration. Threatening to sue me only makes it likely that I won't report such issues to you at all.
Note that my employer treats all reports seriously (I have seen two in two years, both patched within hours).
Will you (and your employer) take responsibility for all criminal breaks into the computer systems? As in, serious jail time?
Because if your systems get broken into, and my identity gets compromised, I will want to hold you responsible for all damages resulting from your negligence. This includes financial payments to the full extent of any financial and/or social loss suffered by me (and everyone else who has had their identity compromised), and jail time for the administrators who failed to secure their systems and the managers responsible for the implementation, starting from the board. Personal liability for all shareholders.
This includes people violating your policies and taking work home on unsecured laptops. Data loss from laptop thefts as well.
You want to see people breaking in punished? Fine by me. I want to see you punished for failing to implement sufficient security. Would that be an acceptable compromise?
Well, you folks could simply have started requiring ODF for internal communications (or SXW for older OOo versions), and then let the MS Office users complain about incompatibility.
As long as you try to stay compatible with MS Office, you _will_ get screwed. The easiest way to get around that would have been to say "We don't care, we are going to use ODF, and MS Office users can become compatible with us." Then let _them_ worry about compatibility issues.
If you need to run BGP, you can always get a/32 allocated. The minimum announcement which ISPs will accept is a/48. While PI space is _nice_, it isn't mandatory. And if you are big enough, you can always get a/32.
Then you should be already dead. India hasn't invaded other nations for a few centuries and I don't see that changing.
Economic revenge is so much sweeter. We won't need to invade you, we will just _buy_ you out. Oh, and here's the funny part. the real outsourcing boom in India (as opposed to Indiand going to the US to work) happened _after_ the Indian nuclear tests and US government imposed sanctions.
Oh, and the house of Saud is still strong and happy. Iraq didn't have nukes, or WMD. They only wanted Euros for their oil instead of dollars.
How much CO2/CHx is emitted by the developed nations, as opposed to developing countries?
How much heat is being emitted by developed countries? How much by the developing world?
Would the US be willing to give up the automobile? Keep in mind that people in developing countries want the same class of life as the people in the US, so if the US standard of living is 2 hour car commutes, lousy mass transit and lots of oil burning, that is what the people in the devloping world will want too.
Split the service from the provider. The people who own the last mile cannot in any way provide service over that wire, and they have tio rent to wires to anyone else who asks for it.
Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) has happened in HK, Japan, the Nordic countries and it works fine for Internet access. Just do the same thing for cable and PSTN.
I wouldn't trust any computer directly on the wire without a router. I don't care what OS it's running.
No no no. So much for those IOS based routers, or JunOS based routers. Both of which are BSD derivatives. Linux ios pretty small in that segment of the market.
Hell, IOS includes a TCL interpreter. Cisco boxes are computers, only specialised ones.
True. And you do need one or two people like Feynman to actually design the project. That he would be a misfit for bread and butter coding is actually irrelevant. John Carmcak isn't good for that either. In the right niche, these people rock. In the wrong place, they are miserable and their lives suck.
I can understand your plight (been in the same situation for the past two/three years). Now I am employed in a job which gives some satisfaction, in a small company. I am finding useful tricks, and we are hiring more staff to handle the grunt work (yay!) so that my brains are actually utilizied.
And progeon doesn't do call centres. They do risk analysis, financial anaylsis, investment planning and other back office jobs. Any job which does not involve direct consumer contact is one they will accept.
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Imagine a browser that ships with database (these days modern processors can run MySQL or SQL Server Desktop Edition pretty easily) and has top-notch WebDAV support.
Now imagine that unlike Firefox's relatively sucky file manager capabilities (well, it does give you a list of files if you type file:///), this browser's file manager look more like Nautilus and can do local files + WebDAV seamlessly.
Now imagine you have a rich control toolkit, like the WHAT-WG is cooking up, and that applications using these rich controls can be cached locally and take advantage of the local relational data store (the built-in database) to store data when the user is offline.
Just for kicks, add in a scheduler that can reliably move large files across localstoragewebstore.
By now, you have enough 'richness' in this 'browser' that it can with some justification call itself a GUI shell. Throw in an IM and email client and a large percentage of PC (including Mac) users wouldn't need much else.
Now stop imaging. Look at Internet Explorer. Now look at the security issues. Start realising that the integration is a weakness, not a strength.
As long as they do not pollute the air I breathe. Smoke, but don't let the smoke into the world without filtering and purifying.
And as a customer, I tend to send such requests in ODF. If you aren't compatible with me, sucks :). A 100 large server order isn't something to be sneezed at :).
My point is that you are barking up the wrong tree in the first place. As an end customer, I only care about you delivering real security. As an admin, I only care about delivering real security.
See, I don't care about the money you spend on securing Windows, or Linux, or other operating system of choice. If I don't see code and configuration audit results, you are pretty much screwed.
Grabbing data and making it public? That is wrong. However, if I find that your site is vulnerable to SQL injection, and I don't notify you, that would be wrong of me. I don't go about directly attacking sites, but I do use special characters in a lot of places. If one of those makes it likely for me to see something which results in me suspecting such a vulnerability, I would like to be able to prove to myself that the site is secure (or not).
I don't want to be paid, I just want you to fix your configuration. Threatening to sue me only makes it likely that I won't report such issues to you at all.
Note that my employer treats all reports seriously (I have seen two in two years, both patched within hours).
Will you (and your employer) take responsibility for all criminal breaks into the computer systems? As in, serious jail time?
Because if your systems get broken into, and my identity gets compromised, I will want to hold you responsible for all damages resulting from your negligence. This includes financial payments to the full extent of any financial and/or social loss suffered by me (and everyone else who has had their identity compromised), and jail time for the administrators who failed to secure their systems and the managers responsible for the implementation, starting from the board. Personal liability for all shareholders.
This includes people violating your policies and taking work home on unsecured laptops. Data loss from laptop thefts as well.
You want to see people breaking in punished? Fine by me. I want to see you punished for failing to implement sufficient security. Would that be an acceptable compromise?
Well, you folks could simply have started requiring ODF for internal communications (or SXW for older OOo versions), and then let the MS Office users complain about incompatibility.
As long as you try to stay compatible with MS Office, you _will_ get screwed. The easiest way to get around that would have been to say "We don't care, we are going to use ODF, and MS Office users can become compatible with us." Then let _them_ worry about compatibility issues.
If you need to run BGP, you can always get a /32 allocated. The minimum announcement which ISPs will accept is a /48. While PI space is _nice_, it isn't mandatory. And if you are big enough, you can always get a /32.
Then you should be already dead. India hasn't invaded other nations for a few centuries and I don't see that changing.
Economic revenge is so much sweeter. We won't need to invade you, we will just _buy_ you out. Oh, and here's the funny part. the real outsourcing boom in India (as opposed to Indiand going to the US to work) happened _after_ the Indian nuclear tests and US government imposed sanctions.
Oh, and the house of Saud is still strong and happy. Iraq didn't have nukes, or WMD. They only wanted Euros for their oil instead of dollars.
12 sales people. _Every_ salesdroid is a manager.
Nah. Businesses who want to multihome should be running BGP in the first place. Their fault if they have no clue on network engineering.
Google for the BGP Movie.
http://www.potaroo.net/avi/comp.m1v
How long as population shrinkage been happening?
How much CO2/CHx is emitted by the developed nations, as opposed to developing countries?
How much heat is being emitted by developed countries? How much by the developing world?
Would the US be willing to give up the automobile? Keep in mind that people in developing countries want the same class of life as the people in the US, so if the US standard of living is 2 hour car commutes, lousy mass transit and lots of oil burning, that is what the people in the devloping world will want too.
I am paid to piss people off. I have root. I don't do customer support.
So, what was your username again?
(This is all legit BTW. I handle abuse desk).
Nah. Normals actually know stuff. Perhaps you are referring to sub-normal lusers?
Split the service from the provider. The people who own the last mile cannot in any way provide service over that wire, and they have tio rent to wires to anyone else who asks for it.
Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) has happened in HK, Japan, the Nordic countries and it works fine for Internet access. Just do the same thing for cable and PSTN.
Not all hardware has the oomph necessary to do the heavy lifting. And other constraints may force the hardware _not_ to have that oomph.
Optimising later is always good.
Mainframes were water cooled, IIRC.
Easynet offers v6, IIRC.
the turtle moves!
pl/perl. Push your Perl code into Pg.
I wouldn't trust any computer directly on the wire without a router. I don't care what OS it's running.
No no no. So much for those IOS based routers, or JunOS based routers. Both of which are BSD derivatives. Linux ios pretty small in that segment of the market.
Hell, IOS includes a TCL interpreter. Cisco boxes are computers, only specialised ones.
True. And you do need one or two people like Feynman to actually design the project. That he would be a misfit for bread and butter coding is actually irrelevant. John Carmcak isn't good for that either. In the right niche, these people rock. In the wrong place, they are miserable and their lives suck.
I can understand your plight (been in the same situation for the past two/three years). Now I am employed in a job which gives some satisfaction, in a small company. I am finding useful tricks, and we are hiring more staff to handle the grunt work (yay!) so that my brains are actually utilizied.
But Feynman would make a great programmer or architect.
http://www.progeon.com/solutions.htm
And progeon doesn't do call centres. They do risk analysis, financial anaylsis, investment planning and other back office jobs. Any job which does not involve direct consumer contact is one they will accept.
The remaining 39% of students were too drunk on beer to answer questions.