I completely agree. But it is not just *time/energy* that people are not willing to put into learning Linux, there are smart people out there who dont have the *interest* in learning about the inner workings of computers/linux.
The way some people go on, (not you) it's like they think that smartness is defined by Linux ability. There is a 'smart' world outside computers you know.
I have not yet tried GAIM2, but have tried other IM clients on linux and they are 'ok' I guess. So if what I am talking about is indeed in GAIM2 then I apologise and will duly try it (I acannot do so right now).
But.. I am trying to "make the switch" at home, away from MS to Linux (I dont hate MS, I just have my reasons)
The problem is, until I can get something that has all the same features as MSN Messenger (all the smileys, including animated ones, etc etc etc) one person in our household will not be happy. Is there an IM client that can do this? It looks like the Wine support for the latest Messenger is not up to par.
Until there is a suitable replacement, I am stuck on XP.
I have had one of these for about 4 years now as well. It has been powered up almost every day since then without any problems. I have run it with Durons, Athlons (My version of upgrading), rebuilt it many times, both physically and software (more upgrading). Have run W2K and XP on it with no issues and for the last 2 years it has been sitting under my desk as a headless Linux server. Other than its now dated technology, which is not its fault, I cannot fault this board. I also have some friends with similar experiences of this board.
I think the people with probs with this board must be doing something wrong or being unlucky.
I'm not saying that a killer flack-film-flutter-monster from the skies wouldn't be a bad thing id it were able to flail around, but just that if it were to break they could quite likely reel it in faster than it would fall under its own accord. Surely they would have backup measures if the winder broke. A backup winder? I dunno.. Just an idea, also thinking out loud:)
Yeah... so go ahead and put well over one trillion times the mass of the universe at the GS point. Then the 1000Tonnes of ribbon going to the earth would kinda be insignificant, but it would STILL offset the balance a *bit*. Not to mention the ribbon, the Earth and anything else nearby would just get sucked in.
Infinite mass just doesn't help with this argument.
As it is so wide and thin and light, it would only flutter down, as mentioned by others in this thread. Also, only the parts below the break will fall down, the rest would try to fall up. So all they need to do is have the lower end tehered to some kind of emergency winder. When the ribbon beaks, the emergency systems kicks in and reels in the loose end so that it doesn't flail around the continent.
On a similar note, the if the geostationary satellite part of the system stayed in the CG of the whole elevator, using an extendable counterweight on some ribbon to keep it in balance, then all that would need to be done in event of a breakage is to lose the counterbalance and it should remain in geostationary orbit and be saved.
I imagine any cargo/people currently in transit above the break would, however, be fucked. If the cargo was below the break it could ditch the ribbon so it can be reeled in safely and then hope for the best that they are low enough for a parachute deployment to get them down safely.
Umm.. if you had it stationary above a pole, well, it would just plummet to the earth unless you had a propulsion system holding it up. If you did this the strain on the cables would be far greater too as the *whole* cable would be hanging from the satellite.
The Space Elevator NEEDS to be done at the Equator, thats how its designed, thats how it works. The atmopheric annoyances are just all problems that have to be somehow overcome. Of course the first thing that has to be overcome is the ribbon production itself. Once this is done, I am sure the other hurdles will be addressed.
I know dissipating a hurricane at its source is different and if possible is probably a good idea overall, but sometimes mucking with natures ways can have nasty side effects.
For example, there is a town I know of that used to suffer flooding so they spent millions on a flood bypass thing to carry the excess water and dump it back into the Thames downstream from the troubled town. It worked perfectly, they had no more flooding. The problem was, however, that all this extra water that would normally be land-locked and in peoples houses was now dumped further downstream. This resulted in other towns, that did not previously have a flooding problem, to now get flooded, badly.
As the 2 towns in question are from different counties, the former (that built the anti-flood thing) didn't care one bit about the town that now gets flooded.
I lived in the downstream town:-(
Now I know this isn't the same as a hurricane, but it goes to show that any messing with nature can have side effects. I don't know what they would be for stopping a hurricane, if any at all, but its an interesting point. I hope they consider that.
I use voipbuster too and I really can't see why people aren't making a fuss about it. Its free! Beats all these vonage dudes who have to charge you money!
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I completely agree. But it is not just *time/energy* that people are not willing to put into learning Linux, there are smart people out there who dont have the *interest* in learning about the inner workings of computers/linux.
The way some people go on, (not you) it's like they think that smartness is defined by Linux ability. There is a 'smart' world outside computers you know.
*whoosh*
Hi, i'm Ed Winchester!
s/music/games .. non?
He meant campers and dolphins.
Think about it.
I never saw Bugs eat lettuce.
Not once, never!
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I have not yet tried GAIM2, but have tried other IM clients on linux and they are 'ok' I guess. So if what I am talking about is indeed in GAIM2 then I apologise and will duly try it (I acannot do so right now).
But.. I am trying to "make the switch" at home, away from MS to Linux (I dont hate MS, I just have my reasons)
The problem is, until I can get something that has all the same features as MSN Messenger (all the smileys, including animated ones, etc etc etc) one person in our household will not be happy. Is there an IM client that can do this? It looks like the Wine support for the latest Messenger is not up to par.
Until there is a suitable replacement, I am stuck on XP.
Not so, I just went to configure a Dell with a similar config to the cheapest of the new MBPs
Dells vital stats:
E1505
Intel® Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T7400 (4MB Cache/2.16GHz/667MHz FSB)
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
120GB 5400rpm SATA
8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
56MB ATI MOBILITY(TM) RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory(TM)
15.4 inch UltraSharp(TM) Wide Screen SXGA+ Display with TrueLife(TM)
1 year warranty!
New MBPs vital stats:
# 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x1GB
# 120GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
# SuperDrive 6x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
# MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display
# 1 years warranty
Dell price:$1,401
Mac Price:$1,999
That looks like a big old dose of apple tax to me!
Good job you let us know you were using sarcasm there. Would never have guessed otherwise. Thanks
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I have had one of these for about 4 years now as well. It has been powered up almost every day since then without any problems. I have run it with Durons, Athlons (My version of upgrading), rebuilt it many times, both physically and software (more upgrading). Have run W2K and XP on it with no issues and for the last 2 years it has been sitting under my desk as a headless Linux server. Other than its now dated technology, which is not its fault, I cannot fault this board. I also have some friends with similar experiences of this board. I think the people with probs with this board must be doing something wrong or being unlucky.
I'm not saying that a killer flack-film-flutter-monster from the skies wouldn't be a bad thing id it were able to flail around, but just that if it were to break they could quite likely reel it in faster than it would fall under its own accord. Surely they would have backup measures if the winder broke. A backup winder? I dunno.. Just an idea, also thinking out loud :)
Yeah... so go ahead and put well over one trillion times the mass of the universe at the GS point. Then the 1000Tonnes of ribbon going to the earth would kinda be insignificant, but it would STILL offset the balance a *bit*. Not to mention the ribbon, the Earth and anything else nearby would just get sucked in.
:)
Infinite mass just doesn't help with this argument.
Or maybe I am just taking you too seriously
As it is so wide and thin and light, it would only flutter down, as mentioned by others in this thread. Also, only the parts below the break will fall down, the rest would try to fall up. So all they need to do is have the lower end tehered to some kind of emergency winder. When the ribbon beaks, the emergency systems kicks in and reels in the loose end so that it doesn't flail around the continent.
On a similar note, the if the geostationary satellite part of the system stayed in the CG of the whole elevator, using an extendable counterweight on some ribbon to keep it in balance, then all that would need to be done in event of a breakage is to lose the counterbalance and it should remain in geostationary orbit and be saved.
I imagine any cargo/people currently in transit above the break would, however, be fucked. If the cargo was below the break it could ditch the ribbon so it can be reeled in safely and then hope for the best that they are low enough for a parachute deployment to get them down safely.
So, how many planes broke up in the early years of man-made-flight? I don't know the numbers but I am positive its more than 2 in 15 some odd years.
Its just part of the development. by the time space travel becomes a daily, or even hourly, thing the safety will be to 'acceptable' levels I am sure.
It makes... doilies!
Umm.. if you had it stationary above a pole, well, it would just plummet to the earth unless you had a propulsion system holding it up. If you did this the strain on the cables would be far greater too as the *whole* cable would be hanging from the satellite.
The Space Elevator NEEDS to be done at the Equator, thats how its designed, thats how it works. The atmopheric annoyances are just all problems that have to be somehow overcome. Of course the first thing that has to be overcome is the ribbon production itself. Once this is done, I am sure the other hurdles will be addressed.
It's Cockney Rhyming slang and it is used commonly in England, well the South at least.
Defo a British thing..
The parent did not mention flash.
I know dissipating a hurricane at its source is different and if possible is probably a good idea overall, but sometimes mucking with natures ways can have nasty side effects.
:-(
For example, there is a town I know of that used to suffer flooding so they spent millions on a flood bypass thing to carry the excess water and dump it back into the Thames downstream from the troubled town. It worked perfectly, they had no more flooding. The problem was, however, that all this extra water that would normally be land-locked and in peoples houses was now dumped further downstream. This resulted in other towns, that did not previously have a flooding problem, to now get flooded, badly.
As the 2 towns in question are from different counties, the former (that built the anti-flood thing) didn't care one bit about the town that now gets flooded.
I lived in the downstream town
Now I know this isn't the same as a hurricane, but it goes to show that any messing with nature can have side effects. I don't know what they would be for stopping a hurricane, if any at all, but its an interesting point. I hope they consider that.
MOD PARENT UP!
I use voipbuster too and I really can't see why people aren't making a fuss about it. Its free! Beats all these vonage dudes who have to charge you money!
Errr.. excuse me, but how did I not get that it was a joke.. Must be too early... Sorry :)
Errr... Excuse me but how is this *wasting* water? Do you know what the main by product is from using Hydrogen as a fuel? Yes, you got it, its Water.
Water is not being removed from the big picture
What happens to the Oxygen from the reaction though? Does that get released to the atmosphere or locked up in some waste by-product?
Some pretty simple cutting for the corner bezels and he gets it wrong...
FTA: "I had some problems with the angles on them but that was covered by the bubble corners anyway"
Dude, its just 45 degrees lol. How could he get that so wrong?