Your is the only reasonable comment out of the whole bunch - yes they should set the default save format to the original of the file.
there is only one issue with that, that you might have inserted features in the file not supported under the old format. I'm sure word could warn you about that though, but that still requires idiots to read whats in front of them which is the whole core of this problem to begin with.
"Can you open an XHTML 1.0 web page designed now in an HTML 3.2 browser from 1997 (10 years ago)? Yes, you usually can."
sure you can open it, will it look right? NO, the 1997 browser will simply skip the unknown tags.
besdies thats an apples and oranges comparison, your comparing a plain text script (html) to an encoded format (.doc)
"But I've never had a problem opening TXT or RTF or HTML or PDF"
txt has no formatting, RTF has basicly no formatting either and what it does have hasn't changed in years, as stated above HTML is a plain text script, and PDF was already covered in my earlier comment.
Oh give me a break! how can you add new features to a product without changing the format, and rending it unreadable by OLD software? XML goes some way to fixing this by having the document itself contain the information on how to read it, as does PDF, that still has it's limit's when it comes time to update XML (already has been an issue in the past with PDF).
i bet the first open office release isn't capable of opening the latest? oh the HORROR! evil open office lets bash them!
I'm not MS lover by any means, but the problems you speak of aren't specific to office - it could just as easily happen with open office documents so it's wrong to demonise MS for it. This isn't some neferious attempt to ruin your office files.
not to nit pick but aren't pid's generated by random() anyway? yes yes it's crappy, but it would be just as random provided it's calling it after a new pid was created.
1500 pounds of ammonia, 5000 pounds of "sludge" (nice scientific name assholes) into a lake measured in the 100's of billions of gallons and you think they need to be stricter? are you for real? if anything i'm AMAZED it's so little, they must have one seriously good process to produce so little useless by product each day.
both quotes are from the article. compared out of context like that they would seem to be at odds
" the Clean Water Act that prohibits any downgrade in water quality near a pollution source even if discharge limits are met"
They aren't exempt from pollution guidlines at all like you and the submitter are trying to pretend, they have merely allowed BP to pollute to the maximum amount allowed under the act. prior to this BP were putting out far less, the issue is that the act is poorly written and inflexible.
who made the decision to put it there? i seriously doubt you had BP executives sitting around planning to blow up crib rooms, doing doctor evil laughs.
more then likely it was just a supervisor's fuck up, not realising the danger. as someone who has actually worked in this kind of industry the amount of saftey hysterial is driving me mad. every single thing i do i have to fill out a risk assessment form. i'm safer at work then i am at home.
1. wages on oil rigs are very high, $100k isn't optimistic at all.
2. you think the only benifit to the state is the income tax? talk about ignorance. do you have any idea how much BP would have to pay in fee's to get the license to dump it in the first place. not to mention all the flow on business (and tax) from other business's servicing the expansion of the company to employ 80 new people.
by the end of it all i wouldn't be at all suprised if bp was forking over more then 100 million. BP are one of the most environmentally friendly businesses out there, i mean for fucks sake they make more solar panels then anyone, you hippies are such a fickle bunch!
people USE 2.4 billion gallons a DAY and it doesn't even make a dent in the lake, so you can imagine the bullshit tiny % of pollution a few thousand pounds makes. I'd bet money animals and humans contribute more pollution to the river in the form of urine per day.
so why don't you all try and have some perspective for once and not jump on the "omgz the evil corperation is killing the world" bandwagon.
"there are so many poorly coded sites out there that wont run properly under PHP5, and this at some point is going to cause a nightmare for various hosting companies."
cry me a river? upgrading pains are a part of the IT industry, people need to either accept this or get out.
name me a single culture which runs around completely naked 100% of the time? there' aren't any, because all people feel the need to cover themselfs in some way even if it is only percieved protection.
the only way we will protect our privacy, is to make it legal to use any means to protect it.
this means strong encryption becoming wide spread and making it legal for me to work into any corperation in person and demand to see my personal records removed from their system.
it means making my personal information, exclusively mine and forbidding anyone else from copying it.
agreed. i'm 27 soon and i've only just grown a brain in the last few years. before age 24, I just had no fucking clue, and worse yet i THOUGHT i did just like others my age.
i know there's probably plenty of people reading this aged 17 - 25, who'll hate this simple fact. Your too young to have experienced enough to have much of a world view.
granted i'm not old enough to look down my nose at you, but i have atleast the realisation i have lots to learn.
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err, i did read the outlook problem, and completely ignored it because it's totally incorrect and a plain lie.
there is only one issue with that, that you might have inserted features in the file not supported under the old format. I'm sure word could warn you about that though, but that still requires idiots to read whats in front of them which is the whole core of this problem to begin with.
that to is rubbish since MS provide FREE office document reading software - you can't use it to edit but you can save as a different format with it.
sure you can open it, will it look right? NO, the 1997 browser will simply skip the unknown tags.
besdies thats an apples and oranges comparison, your comparing a plain text script (html) to an encoded format (.doc)
"But I've never had a problem opening TXT or RTF or HTML or PDF"
txt has no formatting, RTF has basicly no formatting either and what it does have hasn't changed in years, as stated above HTML is a plain text script, and PDF was already covered in my earlier comment.
i bet the first open office release isn't capable of opening the latest? oh the HORROR! evil open office lets bash them!
I'm not MS lover by any means, but the problems you speak of aren't specific to office - it could just as easily happen with open office documents so it's wrong to demonise MS for it. This isn't some neferious attempt to ruin your office files.
why would you think if you save over your document in one format, uninstalling said program would roll back your files as well?
not to nit pick but aren't pid's generated by random() anyway? yes yes it's crappy, but it would be just as random provided it's calling it after a new pid was created.
1500 pounds of ammonia, 5000 pounds of "sludge" (nice scientific name assholes) into a lake measured in the 100's of billions of gallons and you think they need to be stricter? are you for real? if anything i'm AMAZED it's so little, they must have one seriously good process to produce so little useless by product each day.
really, nickel refineries create acid rain? thats funny because i work at one and there's no dead zones here.
" the Clean Water Act that prohibits any downgrade in water quality near a pollution source even if discharge limits are met"
They aren't exempt from pollution guidlines at all like you and the submitter are trying to pretend, they have merely allowed BP to pollute to the maximum amount allowed under the act. prior to this BP were putting out far less, the issue is that the act is poorly written and inflexible.
see it IS driving me mad.
more then likely it was just a supervisor's fuck up, not realising the danger. as someone who has actually worked in this kind of industry the amount of saftey hysterial is driving me mad. every single thing i do i have to fill out a risk assessment form. i'm safer at work then i am at home.
1. wages on oil rigs are very high, $100k isn't optimistic at all.
2. you think the only benifit to the state is the income tax? talk about ignorance. do you have any idea how much BP would have to pay in fee's to get the license to dump it in the first place. not to mention all the flow on business (and tax) from other business's servicing the expansion of the company to employ 80 new people.
by the end of it all i wouldn't be at all suprised if bp was forking over more then 100 million. BP are one of the most environmentally friendly businesses out there, i mean for fucks sake they make more solar panels then anyone, you hippies are such a fickle bunch!
they aren't exempt from anything, they merely got permision to use the maximum level allowed.
i don't see the issue unless you are planning on swimming right beside the outlet pipe. http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0209/featu re2/online_extra.html
people USE 2.4 billion gallons a DAY and it doesn't even make a dent in the lake, so you can imagine the bullshit tiny % of pollution a few thousand pounds makes. I'd bet money animals and humans contribute more pollution to the river in the form of urine per day.
so why don't you all try and have some perspective for once and not jump on the "omgz the evil corperation is killing the world" bandwagon.
I'LL REMEBER next time thank you POINTLESS GRAMA NAZI!
it's possible centos will put their own security patches into their php4 packages. they've done similar stuff before.
cry me a river? upgrading pains are a part of the IT industry, people need to either accept this or get out.
name me a single culture which runs around completely naked 100% of the time? there' aren't any, because all people feel the need to cover themselfs in some way even if it is only percieved protection.
this means strong encryption becoming wide spread and making it legal for me to work into any corperation in person and demand to see my personal records removed from their system.
it means making my personal information, exclusively mine and forbidding anyone else from copying it.
"If you buy a computer, you get Windows preinstalled or you buy a Mac for a lot more"
untrue, white boxes are easily obtainable.
"They load trojans (it breaks the OS, so it's a trojan)"
mmm no ok, windows runs just fine, it's when OEM's add 50 crapware applications written by "learn to code in 2 weeks" programmers that it falls over.
being asked isn't the issue - i'm fine with young ones not votng even if they are asked - it's the ability to say NO which is important.
i know there's probably plenty of people reading this aged 17 - 25, who'll hate this simple fact. Your too young to have experienced enough to have much of a world view.
granted i'm not old enough to look down my nose at you, but i have atleast the realisation i have lots to learn.