Nothing, thimblehead. Burning wood and coal. Not green, not efficient. Lived in *hot* or *cold* housing. Ate food that was *always* on the verge of spoiling. I doubt you'd like it.
This pedantic back and forth ignores one very important fact. This country has had very hot coffee served in almost everybody's home for the entire span of the current population's lives. Therefore, there is *no one* who does not know that coffee comes quite hot. Everyone I know has burned their tongue.
To consider that someone who does something stupid deserve recompense is asinine.
Today one of the largest "land" animals spends a lot of time in the water, the hippo. The rest don't (elephant, rhino, buffalo, giraffe).
Apatosaurus (not a new name at all) tracks have been found on definitely non-swampy terrains in numbers indicating herds. Also, their nests were not in swamps.
All that typed into a high-tech device hooked up to many more hi-tech devices, all of which consume energy; followed by an admonishment to do as AC *says* not as AC *does*.
"one of the difficult things about a decision like this is it is very hard to know the effects over a long course of time.... so while it may be obvious something has to change, i dont know that there is such a clear solution."
Yep, line the available solutions up and pick the lesser evil for now. Simple. One absolutely must make it through the short-term to even be able to experience, much less address, the long-term.
"and as many have already said here, if nuclear is being advocated by lovelock, it seems to be a case of the lesser evil."
And has been since I started being interested in the topic some thirty+ years ago. Only massive resistence by the clueless (as opposed to clued) enviro's has delayed advances. He's not exactly timely with his advice.
"Einstein wrote a letter to the US President urging the development of the atomic bomb to stop the Nazis...a step he later regretted as the greatest error of his life"
He would have had a much shorter time to worry had another government finished their work first.
It is not a matter of marketing that is crimping solar energy, it doesn't pay off. There were numbers of people in the 70's-80's that invested into solar. They basically got screwed. I only know a couple who are happy about it. The rest find it a drain overall.
Air scrubbers. Apparently you aren't aware that emissions controls are in effect. You may not feel they're stringent enough, but that's a magnitude of difference to "allowed to pump...into the atmosphere". No, Virginia, they are not.
"When the day comes...we'll soon see..."
And a nyah, nyah to you too. Please put forth some viable and executable alternative if you wish to ridicule.
That may be true, and may even continue to be true. But, I live in the country. I have to personally haul many things you might simply have delivered. I require something that can at least haul some 4x8 ply tied to the top.
Yes he does; much less than comes out.
Those sources only *sound* good, they don't work out practically *at this moment in time*.
If you're advocating waiting until those source which you favor are feasible, then you're advocating continuing burning coal.
Unless you're prepared to fork over cash due to your good will for thier continued success, they need income. That said, they have the *MOST* unobtrusive ads, placed away from result and not scewing them.
Their searches *are* transparent to ads and *do* fall in the academic realm.
"We" are missing the fact that "they" have decided that things moved much faster than the speed of light in the first few whatever measurements they need after the bang.
Never forget that their assumption is predicated by the need for it to make their view fit reality.
Picky, picky. You presume to make him speak in terms of GR. He was, just perhaps, speaking of human thought, which can abstractly reach waaaaayyyyy 'over there' (where the telescope is pointed * distance) and ruminate on what's "there" "now".
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"Great White Males"
Fuck you. They are all races, colors, and sexes.
Glad to hear that you don't mind popping a grand or more per year ($4 day) just to compute on your lap.
Also means you need to get used to a new op system each time.
Not me, thanks, it's a big deal.
Nothing, thimblehead. Burning wood and coal. Not green, not efficient. Lived in *hot* or *cold* housing. Ate food that was *always* on the verge of spoiling. I doubt you'd like it.
Both this and parent are TROLL, TROLL, TROLL.
This pedantic back and forth ignores one very important fact. This country has had very hot coffee served in almost everybody's home for the entire span of the current population's lives. Therefore, there is *no one* who does not know that coffee comes quite hot. Everyone I know has burned their tongue.
To consider that someone who does something stupid deserve recompense is asinine.
"Hot enough to kill any animal life on the surface that can't get underground or under water right away and then stay there for hours."
You mean like turtles?
Today one of the largest "land" animals spends a lot of time in the water, the hippo. The rest don't (elephant, rhino, buffalo, giraffe).
Apatosaurus (not a new name at all) tracks have been found on definitely non-swampy terrains in numbers indicating herds. Also, their nests were not in swamps.
You really need to read more.
"There are a lot of bird species that respond to any danger by diving into the water, and diving deep."
Big deal. My bet is they couldn't hold their breaths for the hours it would take for the heat to dissipate. Still dead.
Hypothesis sucks as there are numerous small animals (tree lizards for one) which didn't go extinct.
All that typed into a high-tech device hooked up to many more hi-tech devices, all of which consume energy; followed by an admonishment to do as AC *says* not as AC *does*.
Sweet.
"...but before I start taking advice from an 84 year-old, I want to see them either in person or on TV to get a feel for how together they are."
Is that really how you judge people? Like they're all on American Idol?
Based on your reaction to him, I'd say you're young and stupid.
"one of the difficult things about a decision like this is it is very hard to know the effects over a long course of time.... so while it may be obvious something has to change, i dont know that there is such a clear solution."
Yep, line the available solutions up and pick the lesser evil for now. Simple. One absolutely must make it through the short-term to even be able to experience, much less address, the long-term.
"and as many have already said here, if nuclear is being advocated by lovelock, it seems to be a case of the lesser evil."
And has been since I started being interested in the topic some thirty+ years ago. Only massive resistence by the clueless (as opposed to clued) enviro's has delayed advances. He's not exactly timely with his advice.
Small (relatively) amounts of radioactives or massive (relatively) amounts of green-house and corrosive gasses.
Pick, then let us know your choice please.
"Einstein wrote a letter to the US President urging the development of the atomic bomb to stop the Nazis...a step he later regretted as the greatest error of his life"
He would have had a much shorter time to worry had another government finished their work first.
It is not a matter of marketing that is crimping solar energy, it doesn't pay off. There were numbers of people in the 70's-80's that invested into solar. They basically got screwed. I only know a couple who are happy about it. The rest find it a drain overall.
Air scrubbers. Apparently you aren't aware that emissions controls are in effect. You may not feel they're stringent enough, but that's a magnitude of difference to "allowed to pump...into the atmosphere". No, Virginia, they are not.
"When the day comes...we'll soon see..."
And a nyah, nyah to you too. Please put forth some viable and executable alternative if you wish to ridicule.
Only on this planet. Orbiting at a different distance from the sun changes *ALL* that.
That may be true, and may even continue to be true. But, I live in the country. I have to personally haul many things you might simply have delivered. I require something that can at least haul some 4x8 ply tied to the top.
Yes he does; much less than comes out.
Those sources only *sound* good, they don't work out practically *at this moment in time*.
If you're advocating waiting until those source which you favor are feasible, then you're advocating continuing burning coal.
Careful what you wish for. My ISP used Spam Assassin, and if they had voided all marked e-meils durint their test, Slashdot wouldn't have come thru.
You think small businesses don't exhibit "impersonal, dehumanising treatment of their employees, the surrounding community, even their customers"?
What planet are *you* living on?
So, even though IBM has changed "after being visited by the three spirits", you still don't give them credit?
Bias agains corporations, pure and simple.
The only thing learned in the "last... recorded history of man" is that humans haven't changed in all that time, despite *ANY* methods tried.
Rehabilitation hasn't worked any better. I recomment if you don't like seeing violent offenders serve time that you open you home as a half-way house.
Bet you won't.
I have Google's entry page on another pane. If I *wish*, I can pop those. I don't have them smashed into my face as Yahoo, AOL, and others do.
Your point is what, exactly?
Unless you're prepared to fork over cash due to your good will for thier continued success, they need income. That said, they have the *MOST* unobtrusive ads, placed away from result and not scewing them.
Their searches *are* transparent to ads and *do* fall in the academic realm.
You're trolling.
"We" are missing the fact that "they" have decided that things moved much faster than the speed of light in the first few whatever measurements they need after the bang.
Never forget that their assumption is predicated by the need for it to make their view fit reality.
Picky, picky. You presume to make him speak in terms of GR. He was, just perhaps, speaking of human thought, which can abstractly reach waaaaayyyyy 'over there' (where the telescope is pointed * distance) and ruminate on what's "there" "now".