The trouble is that, while Sony's products are [nearly] as flashy as Apple's, they are still PCs and don't have the uniqueness of 'alternative quality' that Apple has, its still a homely windoze PC. In terms of consumer electronics, the Sony stuff still doesn't really have the pizazz quality Apple does, Apple products are both unique and flashy at the same time so they pretty much would beat Sony into the ground in "direct retailing". People want things easily and roughly categorized, it gives a certain "order of chaos" (the derivitive of alternative appeal it would seem), ordinary windoze PC and bland-although-mabye-flashy consumer electronics in one pile, Apple's artsy-techie sculpted-and-tantalizly-expensive-and-fresh-you-ca n't-really-afford products in the next. What they should have is an everything alternative OS (and consumer compatibles) store, where you could try out different OSes and direction on compatible s for that OS, that would have alternative appeal even with ordinary hardware, for geeks at least. Apple stores would still carry techie/kiddy/artsy appeal, but the "Alternative PC Store" would still get pretty get some good sales. You could even possibly meld the two together, an Alternative Apple Store, mabye piloted by Terrasoft (the company that proprietates YellowDog Linux and peddles linux pre-installed Apple and IBM POWER machines, plus some other PPC machines), that would even mabye attract the techies/kiddies/artsies gradient to linux enabled PCs, if the demo displays is flashy enough, mabye a flashy well themed GNOME2/Metacity desktop would do it... Anyway, just food for thought:)
I wouldn't really know, I'm not exactly current with AMD/Intel x86-64, the majority of the programming I have been doing lately is for the little 3.6MHz 16-bit Motorola 65HC02 on my little OnHand wristwatch-pda. Anyway, it now occurs to me that it probably could, so long as the program asks for execute permission first. So erm, nevermind;P
Yeah, that was roughly what I was trying to say about how you'd attack the heap, the specifics were still more or less in the back of my mind (plus it was posted at about 12:30 MST, niks DST, and I wanted to get some sleep;) ). I do remember what the heap is, what its for, and more or less how to utilize it, but, as I said, its been a while since I any "real" coding, so I'm not apt to give a real good definition;P As far as the NX bit goes im not really informed with current x86-64, or really AMD/Intel x86 [current] in general, I'm still mucking around in with T-bird Athlons, older Celerons/Durons, and older Transmetas, in the x86 world, anyway.
Anyway, thanks for clearing that up and putting in the specifics for me:) Now if you'll excuse me I need to go refresh my memory, esp. since I'm designing, and hopefully later writing/rolling my own OS (slashlink above, the site is down, though. Plus I'm planning to move it to SourceForge anyway;P ), I'd think I'd need to remember how to perform a bloody stack call:P
For one thing, the NX bit doesn't protect against heap overflows, am I right (in regards not to possibly bring all the progs w/anchors in the heap to fault most likely)? Of course canaries don't usually take to the heap either, but as [grand]-parent said there is no reason it shouldn't, if you are willing to wipe/crash the heap and possibly segfault all your programs for the sake of security; though mabye you could transfer them to the stacks beforehand, its a mite bit kludgy though esp. in terms of, well, security;P
As far as the heap goes, you could attack the total address space of the heap and flood it with crap just like the stack, even more so since the heap is usually unprotected and public so it could easily be overflowed and leak crap into any program using the heap space (if there is no boundary, that is). Please be incouraged to correct me on any of this since it has been awhile since I have really written any programs, though I pretty much know for sure I have the gist of it. If anything wrong does come to mind and/or if I happen to dig it out of my long-term memory in time before the/.'ers get to it I'll be sure to correct it;)
Has anyone heard of Forrier transforms? If the frequency is higher, the signal lastesth higher on an equivalent base (in other words on the same wattage as a lower frequency), according to the inverse square law or, "locally", it pertainence to the arc limit of the Earth's surface, partitioned out to the reciever, the "regular" square law, (which should really be the "reversed" one). This is why radio astronomers search mostly for signals at or above the good ol' L-band (with a S-band recieve/send preferance, which is part of the reason why thou 802.11b/a is in the S-band, plus high ocsillative speed for thou bandwith, 802.11g is just higher throughput/lossless compression), unless its
Screw these, the AMD Mobile 64 laptops runs just as fast or faster than P4 "Extremes", they usually have a way longer battery life, and they don't scorch your meat and two veg while your using it (the laptop, that is, though for some its both:P ). Even if you do want the P4, get a Hypersonic GX7. About $3000 USD cheaper and have better audio. They also have a translucent green and purple paint job that, in my opinion, is better than the flag paint job. Still wouldn't get the translucent paint job though, after awhile it'll make you nauseas looking at it. They have an AMD M64 too (the AX7) as would be my choice (was actually planning on getting the Inspiron XP but the AX7 looks good too).
Hey, grooooooooovy maaaaaaannnn! I'm already smokin' it!:D They should have a modified tux penguin, like Slackware with the the cigar/popeye tuxpenguin, except theirs would be smoking a joint;P
I agree, as a matter of fact it has been theorized there could be life on Saturn's moon Titan, extremophiles living in oceans of hydrocarbons. The thing is what the prehistoric Mars ocean idea propagated the idea that life on earth actually started on Mars, that is one of the main reasons they're looking for evidence of water.
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Ah, glad someone mentioned that. *Whew* thought all of /. was drunk or something to that effect. Cut down on the bloody alchol /.'ers! :D
The trouble is that, while Sony's products are [nearly] as flashy as Apple's, they are still PCs and don't have the uniqueness of 'alternative quality' that Apple has, its still a homely windoze PC. In terms of consumer electronics, the Sony stuff still doesn't really have the pizazz quality Apple does, Apple products are both unique and flashy at the same time so they pretty much would beat Sony into the ground in "direct retailing". People want things easily and roughly categorized, it gives a certain "order of chaos" (the derivitive of alternative appeal it would seem), ordinary windoze PC and bland-although-mabye-flashy consumer electronics in one pile, Apple's artsy-techie sculpted-and-tantalizly-expensive-and-fresh-you-ca n't-really-afford products in the next. What they should have is an everything alternative OS (and consumer compatibles) store, where you could try out different OSes and direction on compatible s for that OS, that would have alternative appeal even with ordinary hardware, for geeks at least. Apple stores would still carry techie/kiddy/artsy appeal, but the "Alternative PC Store" would still get pretty get some good sales. You could even possibly meld the two together, an Alternative Apple Store, mabye piloted by Terrasoft (the company that proprietates YellowDog Linux and peddles linux pre-installed Apple and IBM POWER machines, plus some other PPC machines), that would even mabye attract the techies/kiddies/artsies gradient to linux enabled PCs, if the demo displays is flashy enough, mabye a flashy well themed GNOME2/Metacity desktop would do it... Anyway, just food for thought :)
I wouldn't really know, I'm not exactly current with AMD/Intel x86-64, the majority of the programming I have been doing lately is for the little 3.6MHz 16-bit Motorola 65HC02 on my little OnHand wristwatch-pda. Anyway, it now occurs to me that it probably could, so long as the program asks for execute permission first. So erm, nevermind ;P
Yeah, that was roughly what I was trying to say about how you'd attack the heap, the specifics were still more or less in the back of my mind (plus it was posted at about 12:30 MST, niks DST, and I wanted to get some sleep ;) ). I do remember what the heap is, what its for, and more or less how to utilize it, but, as I said, its been a while since I any "real" coding, so I'm not apt to give a real good definition ;P As far as the NX bit goes im not really informed with current x86-64, or really AMD/Intel x86 [current] in general, I'm still mucking around in with T-bird Athlons, older Celerons/Durons, and older Transmetas, in the x86 world, anyway.
Anyway, thanks for clearing that up and putting in the specifics for me :) Now if you'll excuse me I need to go refresh my memory, esp. since I'm designing, and hopefully later writing/rolling my own OS (slashlink above, the site is down, though. Plus I'm planning to move it to SourceForge anyway ;P ), I'd think I'd need to remember how to perform a bloody stack call :P
For one thing, the NX bit doesn't protect against heap overflows, am I right (in regards not to possibly bring all the progs w/anchors in the heap to fault most likely)? Of course canaries don't usually take to the heap either, but as [grand]-parent said there is no reason it shouldn't, if you are willing to wipe/crash the heap and possibly segfault all your programs for the sake of security; though mabye you could transfer them to the stacks beforehand, its a mite bit kludgy though esp. in terms of, well, security ;P
As far as the heap goes, you could attack the total address space of the heap and flood it with crap just like the stack, even more so since the heap is usually unprotected and public so it could easily be overflowed and leak crap into any program using the heap space (if there is no boundary, that is). Please be incouraged to correct me on any of this since it has been awhile since I have really written any programs, though I pretty much know for sure I have the gist of it. If anything wrong does come to mind and/or if I happen to dig it out of my long-term memory in time before the /.'ers get to it I'll be sure to correct it ;)
Aw, fsck, the slashcode clipped my reply >>: Eh, its replying to a dead topic anyway.
/me smacks the /.ers upside their heads
Has anyone heard of Forrier transforms? If the frequency is higher, the signal lastesth higher on an equivalent base (in other words on the same wattage as a lower frequency), according to the inverse square law or, "locally", it pertainence to the arc limit of the Earth's surface, partitioned out to the reciever, the "regular" square law, (which should really be the "reversed" one). This is why radio astronomers search mostly for signals at or above the good ol' L-band (with a S-band recieve/send preferance, which is part of the reason why thou 802.11b/a is in the S-band, plus high ocsillative speed for thou bandwith, 802.11g is just higher throughput/lossless compression), unless itsBwa, haw, haw! The infamous oversating psychotic resident redundant /. omniphysicist strikes again!
Screw these, the AMD Mobile 64 laptops runs just as fast or faster than P4 "Extremes", they usually have a way longer battery life, and they don't scorch your meat and two veg while your using it (the laptop, that is, though for some its both :P ). Even if you do want the P4, get a Hypersonic GX7. About $3000 USD cheaper and have better audio. They also have a translucent green and purple paint job that, in my opinion, is better than the flag paint job. Still wouldn't get the translucent paint job though, after awhile it'll make you nauseas looking at it. They have an AMD M64 too (the AX7) as would be my choice (was actually planning on getting the Inspiron XP but the AX7 looks good too).
D'oh! Why you little... *choking*
Sorry, had to be said :D
Hey, grooooooooovy maaaaaaannnn! I'm already smokin' it! :D They should have a modified tux penguin, like Slackware with the the cigar/popeye tuxpenguin, except theirs would be smoking a joint ;P
That should be, The thing is, the..., and capitalize Earth. :P
I agree, as a matter of fact it has been theorized there could be life on Saturn's moon Titan, extremophiles living in oceans of hydrocarbons. The thing is what the prehistoric Mars ocean idea propagated the idea that life on earth actually started on Mars, that is one of the main reasons they're looking for evidence of water.
The iLoo? I know its a coporate joke, but I had to say it.
FreeBSD and OpenBSD suck compared to NetBSD. I mean the're all good, but NetBSD is compatable with the entire trio plus BSDi (like anyone cares, BSDi is dead!) and Linux if the binary's architechure is the same. The obvious killer is it's huge number of ports. It also isn't as bulky as FreeBSD and OpenBSD. It's also slighty faster than OpenBSD. Hell, I have a HP Jornada 720 and 525 running NetBSD, so haw-haw (nelson style).