Either the quote is wrong, or I had was distracted when I said so.
The runtime was developed entirely by Sequent, with some help from SCO in a few areas. IBM was not involved in this process, am sorry for the miss-understanding.
The runtime and compiler were pretty much done before I was aware of any discussions between SCO and IBM. The major change since September has been that the compiler became self-hosting on Monterey (compiles itself, and compiles its own runtime) and that we have had a chance to go from a research project to a product (of course, we will keep improving it)
The ability to embed submarine patents that easily subvert multiple vendor open platforms has long been the holy grail for developers at Novell. The Mono Visual Basic compiler is a milestone step forward in this direction. Using the software skills they already know, Novell and others can now extend Microsoft's monopoly to much broader audience, creating new Windows licencees from all the linux users ala SCO (except for Novell who graciously paid-up on behalf their customers in advance, erstwhile opening pandora's box)
ps2->ps3 introduces a fully realised integrated bootlader/partition tool for loading linux, supported by several distros on launch day. ps3 is a fully functional set top super-computer. Regular users can email, browse web, use openoffice, play MAME, play dvds,cds, stream video, bittorrent, and compile new software... This is new (since MS defeated amiga-class) and it scares microsoft. If MS update the xbox 1.5 to compete they will totally 'zune' dell, hp and all their pc and media-centre partners.
lost is thespiritual successor to B5, with most of the objectionable sci-fi taken out, (even features d'len - coincidene?). Massive amount of coherent backstory gradually revealed, pre-concieved multi-year story arc, The others are the shadows - an enemy revealed in stages of contact over three seasons (season 4 all out war) unkown->rumour->agents->fighting->war->postwar. Big ensemble cast where contacts allow any character to be killed off - so audience never feals safe. B5 was the first tv show to do any of this. Lost does it much better, but owes JMS plenty.
the gpl is a reaction against having to sign ndas to get the oh-so-secret printer driver code. the bsds were hobbled for years by the shadow of fud because of the oh-so-secret copyright out of court settlement.
when will we learn secret deals has no place around free software. it just leads to fud.
dump suse now. only use distros thar don't include mono by default (ubuntu 6.06 LTS, kubuntu edgy, redhat, oracle, slackware,...) "nuke the site from space. its the only way to be sure"
You are correct in every point you make sir. Many have warned about a scenario like this for years. Where is Miguel de Icaza? That scoundral turncoat hasn't posted here since May, will he step up and defend the indefensible? I imagine he will for dollars. Novell is a dead-company-walking so the dollars will surely have an M prefix.
the government has several more of these small objects and intends to send them back one by one in morse code to spell out "GAY... PAGE... HARASSMENT... TROUBLE... ALL... CONCERENED... RESIGN... NOW... AND... PLEASE... PLEASE... STOP"
C# may just be a language, but much of the.Net library (I forget the official terms) is really just a paper-thin wrapper over win32.
Not really. Win32 is fairly well abstracted away. Even Microsoft know win32 is dangerous and must die.
...ECMA specification, in that much of the language behavior in effect is outside the specification
Very true. The whole situation is remincient of the MSCOREFONTS debacle. Microsoft hate true standards, but if there is going to be one then it must be controled by them. They will standardise and allow alternate implementations just enough to placate the naysayers - then shut the door and spend the next dacade reaping. They are doing the same thing now with OFFICE XML
interesting times, even if limewire (the company) ceased trading today and EVERY server/asset/propery of the company went dark - the gnutella network would carry on undeminished. Existing limewire clients would still be functional (and there are hundreds of other brands of clients sharing the same protocol).
No more new limewire updates, forums and wikis lost (but there is still archives.org snapshot). it inconvieniences some people and some talented folk lose jobs and money - but essentally riaa can't have anywhere near the impact on limewire community as on say napster of kazzaaaaar which were at heart old-skool centralised systems with logins, closed protocols and single offical authenticated clients.
point 2: limewire is true blue opensource gpl goodness. and communities have sprung up around the code-base. healthy forks and spinoffs have occured (frostwire, aquasition,..., that 360 crap). So you or i could take this code call it trollwire or whatever and have a new version up and running next day. we don't need to because it already exists and is called frostwire - stated goal: to have an up2date clone for limewires judgement day (riaa takedown or starts peddling wma drm junk ala napster).
point 3: sourceforge/gpl conjecture ok, whats the next logical step, assuming limewire are legaly out-funded even if legit. the limewire derived clones such as frostwire are next so riaa will go after sourceforge and get all opensource gnutella and other media sharing p2p apps removed. After sourceforge they'll chase down every subversion server with an ip address if its hosting a p2p app. but [haha] the network itself will continue and updated versions and sourcecode.tar.gz will still be available right next to britney.
in my opinion the ultrapeer servers are invulnerable to riaa due to decentalisation across too many non-WTO-USA-subsiduary countries - so in the end after all the closed source p2p companies are dead, all the community cvs servers are shutdown, and all the developers have gone annonymous the riaa will have a big showdown with the gpl. THE BEST COPYRIGHT LAWYERS IN THE WORLD WITH UNLIMITED FUNDS versus the gpl (a clever hack on copyright law and probably the greatest flag/symbol of the power of de-centralisation and permissive distibution of valuable new works of art)
this path of attack will lead the riaa to the gpl/open-source license, and it will be a symbolic battle between conflicting ideologies old and new, and it will be a fight for survival ala thunderdome
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WHAT? No paperclip! I think this is a terrible idea.
Either the quote is wrong, or I had was distracted when I said so.
The runtime was developed entirely by Sequent, with some help from SCO in a few areas. IBM was not involved in this process, am sorry for the miss-understanding.
The runtime and compiler were pretty much done before I was aware of any discussions between SCO and IBM. The major change since September has been that the compiler became self-hosting on Monterey (compiles itself, and compiles its own runtime) and that we have had a chance to go from a research project to a product (of course, we will keep improving it)
The ability to embed submarine patents that easily subvert multiple vendor open platforms has long been the holy grail for developers at Novell. The Mono Visual Basic compiler is a milestone step forward in this direction. Using the software skills they already know, Novell and others can now extend Microsoft's monopoly to much broader audience, creating new Windows licencees from all the linux users ala SCO (except for Novell who graciously paid-up on behalf their customers in advance, erstwhile opening pandora's box)
I think the paperclip is a great idea
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don't forget jnode
thats a good idea. many thanks for the heads-up
ps2->ps3 introduces a fully realised integrated bootlader/partition tool for loading linux, supported by several distros on launch day. ps3 is a fully functional set top super-computer. Regular users can email, browse web, use openoffice, play MAME, play dvds,cds, stream video, bittorrent, and compile new software... This is new (since MS defeated amiga-class) and it scares microsoft. If MS update the xbox 1.5 to compete they will totally 'zune' dell, hp and all their pc and media-centre partners.
loving life. i'm going for a bike ride on later this afternoon. thankyou please
bloooooo hands
lost is thespiritual successor to B5, with most of the objectionable sci-fi taken out, (even features d'len - coincidene?). Massive amount of coherent backstory gradually revealed, pre-concieved multi-year story arc, The others are the shadows - an enemy revealed in stages of contact over three seasons (season 4 all out war) unkown->rumour->agents->fighting->war->postwar. Big ensemble cast where contacts allow any character to be killed off - so audience never feals safe. B5 was the first tv show to do any of this. Lost does it much better, but owes JMS plenty.
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the gpl is a reaction against having to sign ndas to get the oh-so-secret printer driver code. the bsds were hobbled for years by the shadow of fud because of the oh-so-secret copyright out of court settlement.
when will we learn secret deals has no place around free software. it just leads to fud.
dump suse now. only use distros thar don't include mono by default (ubuntu 6.06 LTS, kubuntu edgy, redhat, oracle, slackware,...) "nuke the site from space. its the only way to be sure"
You are correct in every point you make sir. Many have warned about a scenario like this for years. Where is Miguel de Icaza? That scoundral turncoat hasn't posted here since May, will he step up and defend the indefensible? I imagine he will for dollars. Novell is a dead-company-walking so the dollars will surely have an M prefix.
the government has several more of these small objects and intends to send them back one by one in morse code to spell out "GAY... PAGE... HARASSMENT... TROUBLE... ALL... CONCERENED... RESIGN... NOW... AND... PLEASE... PLEASE... STOP"
What a vacuous point
Jack the Ripper was Canadian?
Very true. The whole situation is remincient of the MSCOREFONTS debacle. Microsoft hate true standards, but if there is going to be one then it must be controled by them. They will standardise and allow alternate implementations just enough to placate the naysayers - then shut the door and spend the next dacade reaping. They are doing the same thing now with OFFICE XML
Here's an interactive rational arithmatic demo using google web toolkit
Microsoft truly are a schizophrenic company
i'm abandoning this account
if someone else wants this karma road-crash they are welcome
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interesting times, even if limewire (the company) ceased trading today and EVERY server/asset/propery of the company went dark - the gnutella network would carry on undeminished. Existing limewire clients would still be functional (and there are hundreds of other brands of clients sharing the same protocol).
..., that 360 crap). So you or i could take this code call it trollwire or whatever and have a new version up and running next day. we don't need to because it already exists and is called frostwire - stated goal: to have an up2date clone for limewires judgement day (riaa takedown or starts peddling wma drm junk ala napster).
No more new limewire updates, forums and wikis lost (but there is still archives.org snapshot). it inconvieniences some people and some talented folk lose jobs and money - but essentally riaa can't have anywhere near the impact on limewire community as on say napster of kazzaaaaar which were at heart old-skool centralised systems with logins, closed protocols and single offical authenticated clients.
point 2: limewire is true blue opensource gpl goodness. and communities have sprung up around the code-base. healthy forks and spinoffs have occured (frostwire, aquasition,
point 3: sourceforge/gpl conjecture
ok, whats the next logical step, assuming limewire are legaly out-funded even if legit. the limewire derived clones such as frostwire are next so riaa will go after sourceforge and get all opensource gnutella and other media sharing p2p apps removed. After sourceforge they'll chase down every subversion server with an ip address if its hosting a p2p app. but [haha] the network itself will continue and updated versions and sourcecode.tar.gz will still be available right next to britney.
in my opinion the ultrapeer servers are invulnerable to riaa due to decentalisation across too many non-WTO-USA-subsiduary countries - so in the end after all the closed source p2p companies are dead, all the community cvs servers are shutdown, and all the developers have gone annonymous the riaa will have a big showdown with the gpl. THE BEST COPYRIGHT LAWYERS IN THE WORLD WITH UNLIMITED FUNDS versus the gpl (a clever hack on copyright law and probably the greatest flag/symbol of the power of de-centralisation and permissive distibution of valuable new works of art)
this path of attack will lead the riaa to the gpl/open-source license, and it will be a symbolic battle between conflicting ideologies old and new, and it will be a fight for survival ala thunderdome
google knows on a long enough timeline everyone blocks ads. They produce a zillion glittery google branded toys, so that everyone has at least one bookmarked. All googles toys need javascript and cookies enabled for the google.com (and your local google) domain and same goes for their adverts. Disabling individual cookies and scripts within a domain is a major PITA with current tools so even die hard blockers don't bother YMMV. As long as you accept their cookies and run their scripts they have a profitable business. Google are probably terrified ie7+ will default to microsofts version of filterset.g