sounds like complete bull to me... If ANYTHING there would be MORE now since the 70's when they implemented all the anti-smog and pollution laws. Whoever came up with these results is likely just trying to make a name for themself. Sounds like a pathetic attempt...
it's all relative. i trust it more than anything else out there that i personally have tried to achieve the same goal with. you cant fully trust ANY software when it comes down to it...
if you're worried about adware or spyware then get a clue and get ad-aware or spybot to get rid of it. who cares if you know if it has any with it. all you have to do is run these apps after installing a program and it kills them. as i said it's YOUR fault if you're getting degredation.
And again you prove my point that you should, at the bottom line, use whatever works for you best in what you need to do. however just because windows doesnt meet your needs for your current function doesnt mean you have to trash it and make up rediculous claims about it. THAT is the blathering zealous remarks i was referring to...
oh totally. i LOVE building gentoo boxes. it's downright fun to do. I think there are a lot of portage ports to other *nix distro's and OS's so you never know, there might be a port to freebsd. check into it. heck, if there isnt and you're a coder, make one. lots of people would love you...
well put:-) as i said, whatever does the best job for what you need done. I'm not totally hardcore linux but for some tasks ther ejust isnt anything better. same goes for windows, and mac, as well as just about any other OS out there...
who gets system degredation? if you were getting this with other OS's then it may be a problem with something YOU are doing. my personal box is running XP and i've kept it up for two months using it every day and it's just like i rebooted it. this is that blathering i was talking about.
if you know anything about gentoo then you'd know that everything you run on it is compiled for YOUR SPECIFIC CPU which means that you get a 5-10% increase in speed on just about everthing you do. (i've even heard of web servers serving 25% more pages per minute and 10% more sql transactions because of it.) now do you still want to talk about "doing some real work?"
i dont follow your "point" i'm not a zealot as i said: use whatever is best for what you want. if you find something that works better for you, then use it. in my experiences gentoo has provided the best security that i have seen yet... no it's not perfect but what is? if i'm doing video rendering or something, i would probably NOT want to use gentoo... i think you interpreted my gentoo example as a zealous remark... but whining over whether OSX or XP are better in the security area is kinda pointless. the bottom line is that neither of them are GOOD. they're just decent enough to get by in the user end of the spectrum.
i whole heartedly agree. i have never had a gentoo system cracked that i built. when you build them right they are all but impervious... (of course there's always gonna be en exception some time but you get the picture...)
my point is kinda the lesser of two evils. who do you trust the most. and that is ALWAYS laced with your own resposibility. if you hire a body guard and trust him to protect you then you had better remember to pay him his wages. just as you'd better remember to keep an eye on everything and make sure everything is up to date...
the bottom line is which are you going to trust anyway? the only computer that i would fully trust to protect my stuff would be a gentoo linux box custom made for a specific purpose. Self patching and very few applications installed for a person to take advantage of.
the bottom line is though XP and Mac OSX may be "secure" they're not secure enough for anything important. (in my humble opinion.) I also work at a place where security is EVERYTHING so i guess i see it different... This pointless blathering about security shoudl convince no one of anything, especially when zealots are concerned.... I say use whatever works best for what you are doing. if you want REAL security, you shouldnt use either of those OS's
i dont know about this idea, but it doesnt seem too terrible. if it's small enough i could deal with it. and maybe places like universities and such would be immune.... we shall see.
heh, is this ever worth talking about? we deal with MS servers and Linux servers here, lots of Linux distro's and windows NT-2k3 boxes... the Linux side of things does WAY better on the security end of things than the windows end. Who cares what MS thinks they want to prove about this. From my experience, a security minded Linux box is way more secure than a security minded windows box. the biggest heel in the face of linux is that the idiots who make the servers dont patch them. Windows like to give you the option of doing that automatically.
Gentoo Linux:
emerge rsync
emerge -u world
nuff said.
[please ignore any gratuitous opinion in the above post]
Kinda reminds me of those DVD players that pop out of the head unit. My friend wants to get one of those so he can watch movies while driving. Kinda scares me to say the least. I think this is somewhat overdoing it. Cars are transportation, not audio/visual entertainment. As if there arent enough distractions already...
i think it's safe to say that there are enough macromedia loyalists to stand by flash....
Microsoft is just doing it's same old try again at taking over stuff...
sounds like complete bull to me... If ANYTHING there would be MORE now since the 70's when they implemented all the anti-smog and pollution laws. Whoever came up with these results is likely just trying to make a name for themself. Sounds like a pathetic attempt...
lol well said
now there's something new...not every day someone pulls something away from MS....
it's all relative. i trust it more than anything else out there that i personally have tried to achieve the same goal with. you cant fully trust ANY software when it comes down to it...
yeah and what's great for them is that no one could prove they were either. yay for closed source development
maybe you should try reading the post next time moron....i said use whatever is best for what you are doing....
maybe, but so is the fact that you need anti-viral software
if you're worried about adware or spyware then get a clue and get ad-aware or spybot to get rid of it. who cares if you know if it has any with it. all you have to do is run these apps after installing a program and it kills them. as i said it's YOUR fault if you're getting degredation.
And again you prove my point that you should, at the bottom line, use whatever works for you best in what you need to do. however just because windows doesnt meet your needs for your current function doesnt mean you have to trash it and make up rediculous claims about it. THAT is the blathering zealous remarks i was referring to...
oh totally. i LOVE building gentoo boxes. it's downright fun to do. I think there are a lot of portage ports to other *nix distro's and OS's so you never know, there might be a port to freebsd. check into it. heck, if there isnt and you're a coder, make one. lots of people would love you...
well put :-) as i said, whatever does the best job for what you need done. I'm not totally hardcore linux but for some tasks ther ejust isnt anything better. same goes for windows, and mac, as well as just about any other OS out there...
who gets system degredation? if you were getting this with other OS's then it may be a problem with something YOU are doing. my personal box is running XP and i've kept it up for two months using it every day and it's just like i rebooted it. this is that blathering i was talking about.
if you know anything about gentoo then you'd know that everything you run on it is compiled for YOUR SPECIFIC CPU which means that you get a 5-10% increase in speed on just about everthing you do. (i've even heard of web servers serving 25% more pages per minute and 10% more sql transactions because of it.) now do you still want to talk about "doing some real work?"
i dont follow your "point" i'm not a zealot as i said: use whatever is best for what you want. if you find something that works better for you, then use it. in my experiences gentoo has provided the best security that i have seen yet... no it's not perfect but what is? if i'm doing video rendering or something, i would probably NOT want to use gentoo... i think you interpreted my gentoo example as a zealous remark... but whining over whether OSX or XP are better in the security area is kinda pointless. the bottom line is that neither of them are GOOD. they're just decent enough to get by in the user end of the spectrum.
i whole heartedly agree. i have never had a gentoo system cracked that i built. when you build them right they are all but impervious... (of course there's always gonna be en exception some time but you get the picture...)
my point is kinda the lesser of two evils. who do you trust the most. and that is ALWAYS laced with your own resposibility. if you hire a body guard and trust him to protect you then you had better remember to pay him his wages. just as you'd better remember to keep an eye on everything and make sure everything is up to date...
the bottom line is which are you going to trust anyway? the only computer that i would fully trust to protect my stuff would be a gentoo linux box custom made for a specific purpose. Self patching and very few applications installed for a person to take advantage of. the bottom line is though XP and Mac OSX may be "secure" they're not secure enough for anything important. (in my humble opinion.) I also work at a place where security is EVERYTHING so i guess i see it different... This pointless blathering about security shoudl convince no one of anything, especially when zealots are concerned.... I say use whatever works best for what you are doing. if you want REAL security, you shouldnt use either of those OS's
i dont know about this idea, but it doesnt seem too terrible. if it's small enough i could deal with it. and maybe places like universities and such would be immune.... we shall see.
lol...i wonder if that will EVER happen. i'm not sure a lot of people are ready to surrender control of their vehicles to a computer...
has anyone watched this vid? the guys freakin amazing. i've never seen anything like it...
heh, is this ever worth talking about? we deal with MS servers and Linux servers here, lots of Linux distro's and windows NT-2k3 boxes... the Linux side of things does WAY better on the security end of things than the windows end. Who cares what MS thinks they want to prove about this. From my experience, a security minded Linux box is way more secure than a security minded windows box. the biggest heel in the face of linux is that the idiots who make the servers dont patch them. Windows like to give you the option of doing that automatically. Gentoo Linux: emerge rsync emerge -u world nuff said. [please ignore any gratuitous opinion in the above post]
remind me to never drive with you...
what can i say :( i'm such a jerk ;)
that "niche" is outselling microsoft AND sony right now. I think your information is deeply flawed...
Kinda reminds me of those DVD players that pop out of the head unit. My friend wants to get one of those so he can watch movies while driving. Kinda scares me to say the least. I think this is somewhat overdoing it. Cars are transportation, not audio/visual entertainment. As if there arent enough distractions already...
point taken
i think it's safe to say that there are enough macromedia loyalists to stand by flash.... Microsoft is just doing it's same old try again at taking over stuff...