um... OK.
(moves away slowly from the scary person)
Must resist the urge to comment on how advertising subsidizes the stuff it "interrupts".
Most of us are willing to accept that bargain, but whatever floats your boat.
Wow, you are not very discerning, are you? He doesn't merely list things (which would be somewhat of a service), he also summarizes each article and tracks evolving stories over time.
Hmm, well I gues it all comes down to the definition of "undue". He did post about it in his blog, but he was not the/. poster.
He didn't actually talk about specific ads per se, and did not solicit clicks.
Moreover, I think it helps his case that he is only running one ad and not a tower.
Reasonable people can disagree, but as you point out, Google will be the final arbiter. If they kick him out of the program, then I guess he'll have some experiment results to post about.
I think what google is getting at with their policy is they don't want adsense used on pages where all that's on a page is ads and links to other pages full of ads.
This guy actually writes a summary of all linked articles, despite finding the articles through automated searches.
Wow, you don't really understand google rankings, do you? The more sites that link to a page, the HIGHER that page's Google ranking goes. He's HELPING those sites and driving more traffic to them.
Have you seen the site? He reads all the articles that come in, summarizes them and provides liks to them. that is a service- convenience. Also, he runs exactly ONE ad. If he was a greedy jerk, he'd run a five-ad tower.
Some may feel this is "gaming the system", but this is just how commerce works. You create an information vehicle that advertiser want because it meets their target audience's needs (people searching for info on 'asbestos') and is likely to have repeat visits (he tracks evolving stories over time). This makes for happy advertisers.
If not for the "slashdot effect" the advertisers would have nothing to complain about. So how about this, WE all show some restraint and DON'T FRIVOLOUSLY CLICK on the ads on his site.
Mentioning ads, if I recall correctly, is not enough to warrant a breach of the agreement. Soliciting clicks *is*. He has not done so. Tons of people build valuable sites with the idea of generating ad revenue. If you feel his content is bogus (I do not) then you might have a point. If you have a beef with the concept of aggragator sites in general, that is a different issue. I don't see how he is a spammer, though.
Disclaimer: I use adsense myself.
I beg to differ. he is not putting up junk. For people searching for info on asbestos, his site is a good aggregator, with good info.
A commercial motivation does not need to result in poor content.
How does this rate as flamebait? I merely made a corrective post because I hosed the formatting of the link in the parent.
Are you moderating the fact that I posted the link at all?
Granted, certain facts came to light after I made my post, but my post was merely meant as a resource. Now, as it has turned out, perhaps the story I linked to was flamebait, but my post wasn't intended as such.
If you modded me simply because you don't like anyone willing to entertain the idea that Bush may not be Satan, well shame on you. I am a democrat, but I like to play fair- I am therefore willing to play devil's advocate on occasion.
Lack of denial doesn't actually mean anything.
"Document authority" is not any kind of a liscenced credential that I'm aware of.
Those things being said, I have seen that IBM did have a proportional-spaced typewriter available at the time, but I don't know if it had superscripting.
Hey, I'm not perfect, I'm just circulating what I've read. You don't need to go all "bold letters" on my ass.
...as I was looking forward to the/. effect jokes about the polyplay being used as the server.
Oh well, at least we can still IMAGINE A BEOWULF etc. etc.
Translation of article courtesy of the 'Fish:
Mandrake will have to change name
Mandrake, editor French of the distribution Linux eponyme, was condemned by the TGI of Paris, to pour 70 000 at the American companies Hearst Holdings and King Fearture Syndicate, owners of the mark "Mandrake the magician", and editor of the comic strip of the same name. These last had carried felt sorry for in France for "diversion of mark". Especially, the court prohibited to the French the use of his name, and presses Mandrake to transfer its domain names towards the two American companies. A judgment which could carry a fatal blow to the French editor, whose goodwill rests only on its distribution eponyme.
For the hour, Mandrake appealed, suspending the judgement and thus preserving its mark and its domain names.
Let us recall that a preceding judgement - bearing on the logo - had ruled in favour of the two American companies. The French had already had to re-examine his copy.
I wrote about it recently on my site at http://www.health-hack.com/archives/2005/01/28/10/ 47/wild-divine/
(don't feel compelled to go there)
But the actual website for the game is at http://www.wilddivine.com/
It was covered here on /. once, also.
FROM THE (*&$%^&*$^ POST:
um... OK. (moves away slowly from the scary person) Must resist the urge to comment on how advertising subsidizes the stuff it "interrupts". Most of us are willing to accept that bargain, but whatever floats your boat.
Wow, you are not very discerning, are you? He doesn't merely list things (which would be somewhat of a service), he also summarizes each article and tracks evolving stories over time.
Hmm, well I gues it all comes down to the definition of "undue". He did post about it in his blog, but he was not the /. poster.
He didn't actually talk about specific ads per se, and did not solicit clicks.
Moreover, I think it helps his case that he is only running one ad and not a tower.
Reasonable people can disagree, but as you point out, Google will be the final arbiter. If they kick him out of the program, then I guess he'll have some experiment results to post about.
I think what google is getting at with their policy is they don't want adsense used on pages where all that's on a page is ads and links to other pages full of ads.
This guy actually writes a summary of all linked articles, despite finding the articles through automated searches.
Wow, you don't really understand google rankings, do you? The more sites that link to a page, the HIGHER that page's Google ranking goes. He's HELPING those sites and driving more traffic to them.
Have you seen the site? He reads all the articles that come in, summarizes them and provides liks to them. that is a service- convenience. Also, he runs exactly ONE ad. If he was a greedy jerk, he'd run a five-ad tower.
Some may feel this is "gaming the system", but this is just how commerce works. You create an information vehicle that advertiser want because it meets their target audience's needs (people searching for info on 'asbestos') and is likely to have repeat visits (he tracks evolving stories over time). This makes for happy advertisers.
If not for the "slashdot effect" the advertisers would have nothing to complain about. So how about this, WE all show some restraint and DON'T FRIVOLOUSLY CLICK on the ads on his site.
Mentioning ads, if I recall correctly, is not enough to warrant a breach of the agreement. Soliciting clicks *is*. He has not done so. Tons of people build valuable sites with the idea of generating ad revenue. If you feel his content is bogus (I do not) then you might have a point. If you have a beef with the concept of aggragator sites in general, that is a different issue. I don't see how he is a spammer, though. Disclaimer: I use adsense myself.
I beg to differ. he is not putting up junk. For people searching for info on asbestos, his site is a good aggregator, with good info. A commercial motivation does not need to result in poor content.
I did. Satire can be insightful. duh. Read much?
Yes, yes, it is clear that they are talking about hypotheticals here, but what we should take away from this is (from article):
A) given the choice, text on a cell phone, rather than a Blackberry
B) limit messages to 50 words or less
How does this rate as flamebait? I merely made a corrective post because I hosed the formatting of the link in the parent. Are you moderating the fact that I posted the link at all? Granted, certain facts came to light after I made my post, but my post was merely meant as a resource. Now, as it has turned out, perhaps the story I linked to was flamebait, but my post wasn't intended as such.
If you modded me simply because you don't like anyone willing to entertain the idea that Bush may not be Satan, well shame on you.
I am a democrat, but I like to play fair- I am therefore willing to play devil's advocate on occasion.
Lack of denial doesn't actually mean anything.
"Document authority" is not any kind of a liscenced credential that I'm aware of.
Those things being said, I have seen that IBM did have a proportional-spaced typewriter available at the time, but I don't know if it had superscripting.
Hey, I'm not perfect, I'm just circulating what I've read. You don't need to go all "bold letters" on my ass.
Damn! sorry.2 4_Bush_Guard_Documents-_Forgeries
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=125
Please see this in addition to RTFA: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=1252 4_Bush_Guard_Documents-_Forgeries
No, they could basically just rely on people not bothering with the rebate at all. That's what drives most companies' rebate programs.
That's what!
...as I was looking forward to the /. effect jokes about the polyplay being used as the server.
Oh well, at least we can still IMAGINE A BEOWULF etc. etc.
Yes, in retrospect I should have done better.
Now, can I get modded +5 Contrite? =)
Translation of article courtesy of the 'Fish: Mandrake will have to change name Mandrake, editor French of the distribution Linux eponyme, was condemned by the TGI of Paris, to pour 70 000 at the American companies Hearst Holdings and King Fearture Syndicate, owners of the mark "Mandrake the magician", and editor of the comic strip of the same name. These last had carried felt sorry for in France for "diversion of mark". Especially, the court prohibited to the French the use of his name, and presses Mandrake to transfer its domain names towards the two American companies. A judgment which could carry a fatal blow to the French editor, whose goodwill rests only on its distribution eponyme. For the hour, Mandrake appealed, suspending the judgement and thus preserving its mark and its domain names. Let us recall that a preceding judgement - bearing on the logo - had ruled in favour of the two American companies. The French had already had to re-examine his copy.
wwwDOTbostonsci-fiDOTcom Didn't want to post this earlier due to /. effect, but it's probably OK now.
24 hours of bliss!
I'll be watching this movie in 2 days at the 29th annual Boston Sci-Fi Movie Marathon! Can't wait!
What drove that decision process?