What Jobs was trying to accomplish was demonstrate features that developers will need to interface with or test for. Time Machine has APIs to interface with. iChat's Theater feature allows developers to let users display documents and even play online games. Mail has stationary which developers can create templates for, and the Todo list accesses a new system-wide Todo cache that any application can interface with.
Thurrott is just a shill with a short attention span. He has no access to a Developer Preview of Leopard, and thinks all that will be new in Leopard is what was shown in the keynote. I've gotten into email argument with him that exposed his technical ignorance. He claimed OS X Tiger was less of an update than Windows XP SP2, and actually dismissed the famous 20-page review of OS X Tiger that explained every change, from the new memory manager to entire new API frameworks like CoreData (he completely dismissed all the new Tiger APIs as "non-user features," as if SP2 was some incredible visual revamp of XP).
Thurrott just hates when Apple points out the 100% truth that Microsoft has cloned a lot of Apple-isms. Where does he think the search field in the upper-right of every Explorer window with the magnifying glass came from? Hell, where does he think the Recycle Bin came from? Or the new system tray icons that are blatant clones of OS X's? Etc. etc. etc.
Only 10 Leopard features were demoed for a developer conference, and the rest was kept "Top Secret." Just wait until MWSF07. We haven't even seen the resolution-independent GUI yet (introduced in Tiger's window manager but not fully implemented).
Apple isn't obligated to release any of their trade secrets. Part of Apple's success is in keeping their cards close to their chest, then revealing all and sideswiping competitors when they least expect it.
It's in Apple's best interest for people to be "underwhelmed" with the 10 features shown, especially competitors like Microsoft. All the more of an impact when Apple fully reveals Leopard at MacWorld.
The point is that piracy makes it so the risk is much higher in doing something that's not the standard 3D FPS. So don't be surprised to see a hegemony of safe, generic games.
It's the same thing with music. People pirate the shit out of everything, then bitch when major labels don't put out revolutionary music. What the hell do you expect? They know they're not going to get a return on that investment. So it's back to Ashlee Simpson, the money-maker.
Haven't they been saying that piracy's been killing the PC gaming industry for like the past decade?
They've always said piracy hurt the gaming industry, and it does (and I've been downmodded so many times on Slashdot for pointing this out in the past). But high-speed connections are prevalent today, as are advanced P2P networks, tracker sites, entire communities devoted to pirating the fuck out of everything so people can freeload to their heart's content and never pay a dime to any developer.
So the sequel-itis of PC gaming, the focus on superficial features like graphics, the lack of experimentation like we saw in the 90s (not that there wasn't crap as well, but boy there were a lot more hits then misses back then)--that's all because it's safer to do something generic than branch out, because the risk is much higher now that so many college kids today don't seem to have any morals whatsoever when it comes to never paying someone for a job well done. What's worse, if they try to introduce any kind of basic DRM, ala Steam, they get trashed for it. They just can't win, hence the move to consoles and the growth of crappy console ports to the PC.
Never again will we see the glorious 90s era of PC-specific gaming. I miss getting excited to see the latest shareware on PC Gamer's CD. Thanks a lot, pirates.
This is more proof that the rumor sites are Apple's worst enemy. They hype things up, even though Apple purposely keeps quiet.
The things that were demoed were demoed because they pertain to developers who will need to interface with the new APIs and test for compatibility with their existing apps. For example:
Time Machine has APIs that applications will need to talk to for it to support their documents.
Mail Notes utilizes a new system-wide To-do service in OS X Leopard that all apps will be able to access.
I can imagine some apps needing some testing to make sure they don't go all wonky when the user is switching across virtual desktops (for instance, I wonder how Yojimbo's side tab will behave).
CoreAnimation, XCode 3.0, and DashCode are a given.
The only thing I can't think of pertaining to devs is iChat, but I'm sure there's a reason they demoed it now. Also, did anyone notice it wasn't using brushed metal anymore? Straight Aqua.
Just like I choose to blame them for iTunes DRM even though the RIAA insisted on it to do business in the first place. I subscribe to looney Slashdot logic, thank you very much!
If you're trying to argue that the hardware market is somehow more profitable than the software one I think you're sadly mistaken.
Apple is a business. If what you say were true, they would be a software company, not a hardware company. They already did the Mac-licensing thing in the 90s.
I would really be interested in what you're basing your claim on that hardware isn't more profitable than software, at least for Apple. Would you tell Apple to stop selling iPods and instead be a FairPlay/iTunes software licensing company? Get real. Even Microsoft saw that approach fall apart with PlaysForSure.
Sure, let's ignore that Microsoft Windows XP still sets up new users with full admin rights on first setup. You're damn right I'm going to blame Windows for setting everyone up as admins in the first place, even in 2006 when they know better and should have fixed it in SP2.
at some vague point in the future, DRM is going to lock us out of our computers.
I've been hearing this alarmist propaganda for years. Guess what, if DRM "locks" us out of our computers, the process of the free market means demand will rise for computers that don't lock us out, which simply means someone will supply them and consumers will buy those instead. Not as dramatic as the Orwellian dreamscape you're imagining, I know.
I'm so sick of emotional rhetoric. The sky is not falling all the time.
The BSDs use their own utilities. They often use gcc, but that can be replaced. You could bring over BSD utilities or other alternatives and use that with a Linux kernel.
This mythical idea that the GNU utilities are the irreplaceable bedrock of all UNIXes needs to go away.
Linus is reasonable enough to recognize that creators have the right to protect their content from rampant thievery. I've been listening to Slashdot's alarmist anti-DRM arguments for years and have yet to see their mythical Orwellian power structure materialize.
1.) Apple is typically ahead of that "de facto standard" and tends to introduce features that end up in Microsoft's products (Vista is rife with Apple-isms, even down to the search field in the upper-right corner of Explorer windows, complete with a magnifying glass icon--straight out of OS X).
2.) Apple actually ships its products, so it's exciting to get to see what cool new stuff you'll be able to get your hands on soon and not just read about for another 12 months like Vista.
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I don't know what it says about you, but it sounds like your mom has issues sending you that stuff.
Did you say the same thing about CoreImage and CoreVideo?
What Jobs was trying to accomplish was demonstrate features that developers will need to interface with or test for. Time Machine has APIs to interface with. iChat's Theater feature allows developers to let users display documents and even play online games. Mail has stationary which developers can create templates for, and the Todo list accesses a new system-wide Todo cache that any application can interface with.
Thurrott is just a shill with a short attention span. He has no access to a Developer Preview of Leopard, and thinks all that will be new in Leopard is what was shown in the keynote. I've gotten into email argument with him that exposed his technical ignorance. He claimed OS X Tiger was less of an update than Windows XP SP2, and actually dismissed the famous 20-page review of OS X Tiger that explained every change, from the new memory manager to entire new API frameworks like CoreData (he completely dismissed all the new Tiger APIs as "non-user features," as if SP2 was some incredible visual revamp of XP).
Thurrott just hates when Apple points out the 100% truth that Microsoft has cloned a lot of Apple-isms. Where does he think the search field in the upper-right of every Explorer window with the magnifying glass came from? Hell, where does he think the Recycle Bin came from? Or the new system tray icons that are blatant clones of OS X's? Etc. etc. etc.
Only 10 Leopard features were demoed for a developer conference, and the rest was kept "Top Secret." Just wait until MWSF07. We haven't even seen the resolution-independent GUI yet (introduced in Tiger's window manager but not fully implemented).
Apple isn't obligated to release any of their trade secrets. Part of Apple's success is in keeping their cards close to their chest, then revealing all and sideswiping competitors when they least expect it.
It's in Apple's best interest for people to be "underwhelmed" with the 10 features shown, especially competitors like Microsoft. All the more of an impact when Apple fully reveals Leopard at MacWorld.
The point is that piracy makes it so the risk is much higher in doing something that's not the standard 3D FPS. So don't be surprised to see a hegemony of safe, generic games.
It's the same thing with music. People pirate the shit out of everything, then bitch when major labels don't put out revolutionary music. What the hell do you expect? They know they're not going to get a return on that investment. So it's back to Ashlee Simpson, the money-maker.
They've always said piracy hurt the gaming industry, and it does (and I've been downmodded so many times on Slashdot for pointing this out in the past). But high-speed connections are prevalent today, as are advanced P2P networks, tracker sites, entire communities devoted to pirating the fuck out of everything so people can freeload to their heart's content and never pay a dime to any developer.
So the sequel-itis of PC gaming, the focus on superficial features like graphics, the lack of experimentation like we saw in the 90s (not that there wasn't crap as well, but boy there were a lot more hits then misses back then)--that's all because it's safer to do something generic than branch out, because the risk is much higher now that so many college kids today don't seem to have any morals whatsoever when it comes to never paying someone for a job well done. What's worse, if they try to introduce any kind of basic DRM, ala Steam, they get trashed for it. They just can't win, hence the move to consoles and the growth of crappy console ports to the PC.
Never again will we see the glorious 90s era of PC-specific gaming. I miss getting excited to see the latest shareware on PC Gamer's CD. Thanks a lot, pirates.
This is more proof that the rumor sites are Apple's worst enemy. They hype things up, even though Apple purposely keeps quiet.
The things that were demoed were demoed because they pertain to developers who will need to interface with the new APIs and test for compatibility with their existing apps. For example:
The only thing I can't think of pertaining to devs is iChat, but I'm sure there's a reason they demoed it now. Also, did anyone notice it wasn't using brushed metal anymore? Straight Aqua.
I choose to blame Apple, sir.
Just like I choose to blame them for iTunes DRM even though the RIAA insisted on it to do business in the first place. I subscribe to looney Slashdot logic, thank you very much!
No, it didn't. Let's see some numbers cited. Hell, Mac sales continue to rise.
Meanwhile, piracy is great, down with the RIAA!
I love Slashdot. And its views on freeloading.
Other than the built-in cameras, hard drive shock sensors, two-finger scrolling, EFI, light level sensors, backlit keyboards, etc.
Apple is a business. If what you say were true, they would be a software company, not a hardware company. They already did the Mac-licensing thing in the 90s.
I would really be interested in what you're basing your claim on that hardware isn't more profitable than software, at least for Apple. Would you tell Apple to stop selling iPods and instead be a FairPlay/iTunes software licensing company? Get real. Even Microsoft saw that approach fall apart with PlaysForSure.
Sure, let's ignore that Microsoft Windows XP still sets up new users with full admin rights on first setup. You're damn right I'm going to blame Windows for setting everyone up as admins in the first place, even in 2006 when they know better and should have fixed it in SP2.
They only demoed 10 things today, for devs. Wait until Macworld '07 for the new UI, etc.
I've been hearing this alarmist propaganda for years. Guess what, if DRM "locks" us out of our computers, the process of the free market means demand will rise for computers that don't lock us out, which simply means someone will supply them and consumers will buy those instead. Not as dramatic as the Orwellian dreamscape you're imagining, I know.
I'm so sick of emotional rhetoric. The sky is not falling all the time.
NeXTStep ran on Mach and used much BSD code.
At least Linus released something. HURD still isn't officially released and ready for production systems, and I suspect it never will be.
Well, I use BSD, so...thanks for the compiler, GNU.
If the only GNU utility being used is a compiler (and, yes, there are alternatives), I think the point has been proven.
The BSDs use their own utilities. They often use gcc, but that can be replaced. You could bring over BSD utilities or other alternatives and use that with a Linux kernel.
This mythical idea that the GNU utilities are the irreplaceable bedrock of all UNIXes needs to go away.
If you're a BSD user, there are only things like the gcc compiler, which can be replaced. GNU utilities are used as a matter of convenience.
How come when people talk about piracy on Slashdot, it's not theft, but when there's source code involved, it's always referred to as "stolen?"
Linus is reasonable enough to recognize that creators have the right to protect their content from rampant thievery. I've been listening to Slashdot's alarmist anti-DRM arguments for years and have yet to see their mythical Orwellian power structure materialize.
Leaked pictures of the banners hanging at the location of the WWDC show a big "64-bit" icon.
1.) Apple is typically ahead of that "de facto standard" and tends to introduce features that end up in Microsoft's products (Vista is rife with Apple-isms, even down to the search field in the upper-right corner of Explorer windows, complete with a magnifying glass icon--straight out of OS X).
2.) Apple actually ships its products, so it's exciting to get to see what cool new stuff you'll be able to get your hands on soon and not just read about for another 12 months like Vista.