Why do causes necessarily reduce to a single Prime Mover? Seems to me any action is the result of at least one other action, possibly more, so the number of causes as we look to the past should remain constant or increase. Aquinas' reasoning should have lead him to Pantheism.
" I'd ask the question "when will these guys ever learn..."
They learned plenty. The road to a permament profit stream is to consistently proclaim untruths and lobby government to create a regulated market impervious to technological changes. The upside is that it took so long for corporations to absorb this lesson or we'ld still be side-stepping road apples and buying ice from delivery men.
That's an interesing thought, but as a user of Mozilla since it first compiled I can't think of a single instance in which tabs have presented a treat of abuse. So what are these "bugs (or flaws) being found in other browsers."?
And here I thought it was Federal regulations and not airline corporate whim or internal policy which determine boarding requirements. Is it a loss of rights when government imposed?
Worse yet, proprietary software companies, emboldened by the spread of OSS, are now far more comfortable in my experience releasing half developed at-best beta crap and 'empowering' the user to become part of the development cycle.
"If anything is going to kill Linux and the open-source movement, it's the presence of certifiable lunatics in the ranks representing the users. It may be that this is actually a deep Astroturf PR campaign orchestrated by Microsoft to discredit open source and Linux. It sure seems like something weird is going on."
Did everyone but me miss this paragraph in Dvorak's article, especially the part in bold italics above? Are we absolutely sure of his real intent?
"Just about everyone on/. complains about Microsoft's auto-update feature saying that it's intrusive..."
They do? Seems to me the complaints hinged more on lack of trust regarding the information Microsoft pulled from machines and the inability to test patches in a production environment before roll-out to confirm applications didn't break. The latter's why some businesses still haven't rolled out XP SP2.
Agree with update indicator though, maybe add a startup notification and an option to update automatically.
Firefox is 5 meg. What did these people do fo XP SP 2? Not the 100% best solution granted but Firefox ix is far from the biggest hurdle for those still with low bandwidth.
That's what I thought, the summary treats the choices as mutually exclusive options in life because they were structured as mutually exclusive in the survey. One could agree with the first four without contradiction. These results say more about what customers value than what OSS offers. Still surprising results, users must really hate vendor lock-in.
" None of us can deny the fact they put an expiration date on this law. This feature was great forsight..."
It wasn't foresight, it was a cynical move to defuse opposition criticism of the most grevious rollback in civilian rights since McCarthy. 'Trust us, it's only temporary. We're at war.' They had no serious intent of reviewing or trimming its scope then and they don't now. Quite the opposite, voices in the government and law enforcement are calling for its expansion to continue the successful staving off of 'imminent threat'. Remember when those terms sounded so much more credible?
This isn't about funding rapists, serving babies in restaraunts or nuking Los Angeles (though the last might not be a good example.) You're obviously strongly in favour of this legislation. Without arguing its merits a simple scan of this forum's submissions should be enough to show it doesn't have unanimous support. 100% of the American population doens't stands strongly behind, hence 100% legislative support is unrepresentative. If so why do politicians hide it in a bill for Iraq spending and tsunami relief? Rep's and Dem's should be proclaiming ownership from the rooftops, beating each other down at Media's door trying to be seen associated with this legislation. Unanimous support is the stuff of a politician's wet dreams.
At the end it doesn't matter, it's a done deal as far as the legislator's are concerned. If this gets past the Courts I'll be very curious to see what the reaction is when it moves from the conceptual to the concrete, when people have to carry permanent identity cards.
Nope. By 'you' I meant the grandparent post, who by refering to CSpan I took to meant the submitter is American. I'm not. By 'representative government' I meant a group of elected officials who would have contentiously debated the pros and cons of legislation with such far-reaching long term consequences to those who elected them. The vote was 100-0. No representation.
So I have this straight, Slashdot raising historionics and alarm about a theoretical Firefox exploit, and a dupe at that, is 'preaching to the choir'? That's the same choir consistently accused of being anti-Microsoft, pro-OSS? I'ld settle for any explanation how a + 5 Insightful for this AC makes sense.
"Are you serious? Somehow you mixed up my post with the parent post.."
The post had a major point - F/OSS advocates insist the results are perfect - and a minor one - that he didn't think that way. You advised not to "let idiots drag you down.." without refering to which. Most English speakers would assume it addressed the major point. It was a perfectly reasonable mistake caused by a poorly formed response. You talk context but assume people should magically pull the correct one from their ass because you're Slashdot's fabulous Albinofrenchy? Please.
A friend who lives in Ontario cottage country fell asleep on the back deck after a particularly good summer party. He woke in the early morning hours to the click-click sound of a family of wolves checking out the remanants in the BBQ. The meeting scared them more than they scared him, all three instantly bolted.
By responding I'm ignoring your advice, but please, show me these posts. Not the ones floating around in your fevered preconceptions, show me ten real world submissions claiming F/OSS is perfect and results in perfect code. Put up or get of yer mom's computer.
No one ever claimed F/OSS was perfect or resulted in perfect code, unless you can point to evidence otherwise. Every discussion of relative security security merits statistically centred on the claims are that OSS has fewer issues, those that do occur are lower risk and generally require manual application instead of MS's automated install, and that patches appeared sooner. The only real fantasy here is you representation of F/OSS 'evangelists'.
You must be mistaken. A dozen posts proclaiming Firefox's security is no better than IE have already been modded up. Are you sure you RTFM and correctly executed this exploit.;)
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Why do causes necessarily reduce to a single Prime Mover? Seems to me any action is the result of at least one other action, possibly more, so the number of causes as we look to the past should remain constant or increase. Aquinas' reasoning should have lead him to Pantheism.
And rightfully so for serving their consumers.
They learned plenty. The road to a permament profit stream is to consistently proclaim untruths and lobby government to create a regulated market impervious to technological changes. The upside is that it took so long for corporations to absorb this lesson or we'ld still be side-stepping road apples and buying ice from delivery men.
That's an interesing thought, but as a user of Mozilla since it first compiled I can't think of a single instance in which tabs have presented a treat of abuse. So what are these "bugs (or flaws) being found in other browsers."?
And here I thought it was Federal regulations and not airline corporate whim or internal policy which determine boarding requirements. Is it a loss of rights when government imposed?
Some here cheered both times. Slashdot isn't exclusively American.
Worse yet, proprietary software companies, emboldened by the spread of OSS, are now far more comfortable in my experience releasing half developed at-best beta crap and 'empowering' the user to become part of the development cycle.
Did everyone but me miss this paragraph in Dvorak's article, especially the part in bold italics above? Are we absolutely sure of his real intent?
You probably didn't notice, Mozilla/Firefox 'competes' by being free. Netscape was effectively crushed and Opera isn't setting the world afire.
They do? Seems to me the complaints hinged more on lack of trust regarding the information Microsoft pulled from machines and the inability to test patches in a production environment before roll-out to confirm applications didn't break. The latter's why some businesses still haven't rolled out XP SP2.
Agree with update indicator though, maybe add a startup notification and an option to update automatically.
Firefox is 5 meg. What did these people do fo XP SP 2? Not the 100% best solution granted but Firefox ix is far from the biggest hurdle for those still with low bandwidth.
That's what I thought, the summary treats the choices as mutually exclusive options in life because they were structured as mutually exclusive in the survey. One could agree with the first four without contradiction. These results say more about what customers value than what OSS offers. Still surprising results, users must really hate vendor lock-in.
It wasn't foresight, it was a cynical move to defuse opposition criticism of the most grevious rollback in civilian rights since McCarthy. 'Trust us, it's only temporary. We're at war.' They had no serious intent of reviewing or trimming its scope then and they don't now. Quite the opposite, voices in the government and law enforcement are calling for its expansion to continue the successful staving off of 'imminent threat'. Remember when those terms sounded so much more credible?
At the end it doesn't matter, it's a done deal as far as the legislator's are concerned. If this gets past the Courts I'll be very curious to see what the reaction is when it moves from the conceptual to the concrete, when people have to carry permanent identity cards.
Nope. By 'you' I meant the grandparent post, who by refering to CSpan I took to meant the submitter is American. I'm not. By 'representative government' I meant a group of elected officials who would have contentiously debated the pros and cons of legislation with such far-reaching long term consequences to those who elected them. The vote was 100-0. No representation.
You no longer have a representative government. The Experiment's over.
Remind me again how this type of moderation illustrates Slashdot is a haven for fanatical, pro-OSS evangelists?
So I have this straight, Slashdot raising historionics and alarm about a theoretical Firefox exploit, and a dupe at that, is 'preaching to the choir'? That's the same choir consistently accused of being anti-Microsoft, pro-OSS? I'ld settle for any explanation how a + 5 Insightful for this AC makes sense.
The post had a major point - F/OSS advocates insist the results are perfect - and a minor one - that he didn't think that way. You advised not to "let idiots drag you down.." without refering to which. Most English speakers would assume it addressed the major point. It was a perfectly reasonable mistake caused by a poorly formed response. You talk context but assume people should magically pull the correct one from their ass because you're Slashdot's fabulous Albinofrenchy? Please.
Good example. Why isn't Dia good enough for primary and secondary schools?
A friend who lives in Ontario cottage country fell asleep on the back deck after a particularly good summer party. He woke in the early morning hours to the click-click sound of a family of wolves checking out the remanants in the BBQ. The meeting scared them more than they scared him, all three instantly bolted.
By responding I'm ignoring your advice, but please, show me these posts. Not the ones floating around in your fevered preconceptions, show me ten real world submissions claiming F/OSS is perfect and results in perfect code. Put up or get of yer mom's computer.
No one ever claimed F/OSS was perfect or resulted in perfect code, unless you can point to evidence otherwise. Every discussion of relative security security merits statistically centred on the claims are that OSS has fewer issues, those that do occur are lower risk and generally require manual application instead of MS's automated install, and that patches appeared sooner. The only real fantasy here is you representation of F/OSS 'evangelists'.
You must be mistaken. A dozen posts proclaiming Firefox's security is no better than IE have already been modded up. Are you sure you RTFM and correctly executed this exploit. ;)
Firefox is 4.7 meg, you leave the impression an update is a 20 meg download.