The concept of "respect" is much different in the younger generations.
Oh yes, I forgot, you're one of those notcases who just hates millenials because the only way for you to be actually better than anyone is to look down on someone due to an arbitrary characteristic.
It used to be that you earned respect through your actions and abilities. Now young people think that "respect" is a right, no matter what.
Oh yes that's why the kids invented the phrase "respect your elders".
Personally, I would rather have actively good developers rather than ones that merely pass a minimum standard of skill. But you're welcome to choose otherwise.
I don't know whether it's funy or trajic that you've literally converged on the same code of concdut as the "SJWs" you so fear, except that because you hate and fear the "SJW" you're determined to make all the same mistakes again.
1. Act like civilized adults,
That's what we used to say except it turns out that everyone has their own ideas about what "civilised adults" are so it has to be spelled out more clearly.
2. Any change to this code of conduct or establishing additional "Behavior codes" of any nature requires a 45 day discussion period, and a review of proposed changes by the core developers, and unanimous written consent of all core developers and active contributors.
You've just doomed your mailing list to endless flamey discussions as to whether a particular bit of behaviour is "civilised" or indeed "adult". I'm sure that's a great improvement!
Perhaps I need to be sent in for SJW indoctrination as well?
Please don't. I find your irregular spamming of threads rather entertaining. I suspect it happens when you've got plenty of time while you're "resting" between jobs after you got fired for misconduct.
So, even if your characterisation of every single egalitarian is correct,
Not every egalitarian, but the self proclaimed ones, yeah.
You can justify an anti-equality position
Ah yes, white is black and anyone who atually tries to make things more equal is actually anti equality. Only people who sit on the sidelines and whine are the true egalitarians.
Read it. He's explicitly against discriminating based on sex and ancestry.
Yet instead of doing something about the rampant disctrimination in the industry that he's apparently against, he's whining about an organisation thats trying to give a small number of people from somewhat excluded groups a leg up.
Strangely enough, when people start treating you like you've done something horrible, and you haven't, people don't like that.
Well this reveals a deeper truth. People fighting discrimination aren't telling you personally that you've done something wrong unless you have. Perhaps the problem is that it triggers introspection and you dislike what you see. So you lash out at the messenger.
The reason for me leaving are the changes in the community. The current license change discussions unfortunately bring to memory the fsf politics when I was working on gcc.
Sounds like this guy is a serial squeaky wheel. The FSF is and has always been a political organisation, with a well enumreated set of goals.
Sounds like he wants to work on large projects but can't stand the fact that other humans are involved.
When someone says "I'm sorry, I can't be associated with that movement because I am an egalitarian",
Whenever someone says that they're complaining about someone trying to change the status quo. Oddly nothing ever satisfies those self-proclaimed "egalitarians" when it comes to maintaing the satus quo. Oddly the distinctly non egalitarian status quo doesn't seem to bother them at all.
And you openly being happy to exclude people because they don't agree with you,
I'm openly happy to exclude people who diagree with me on certain things. For example some people think I should be murdered and I disagree and I'm happy to exclude them over that disagreement.
when they BUILT the community
Chris Lattner has a better claim to that than this diva and he's in favour of the code of conduct.
Of the two of you, one is behaving as an intolerant bigoted bully... and it isn't him.
So you've just noticed a little fragment of the paradox of tolerance and believe you've stumbled onto something profound. You haven't and it's been hashed out so many times before.
Among other aspects, he's not getting paid for being the fifth highest contributor of submissions for LLVM
With 2.7% of contributions. IOW his contributions are dwarfed by the team which is why the person wiht the highest number of contrbutions thinks the COC which keeps most of the team together is the best way forward.
Indeed. SJW crap is just a modern form of a bunch of incompetents trying to seize control,
Chris Lattner is in charge and strongly supports the Code of Conduct. And he contributed much more than the subject of TFA. Buch of incompetents indeed.
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The concept of "respect" is much different in the younger generations.
Oh yes, I forgot, you're one of those notcases who just hates millenials because the only way for you to be actually better than anyone is to look down on someone due to an arbitrary characteristic.
It used to be that you earned respect through your actions and abilities. Now young people think that "respect" is a right, no matter what.
Oh yes that's why the kids invented the phrase "respect your elders".
Communists are objectively evil.
I know! They put fluoride in ice cream CHILDREN's icecream.
Personally, I would rather have actively good developers rather than ones that merely pass a minimum standard of skill. But you're welcome to choose otherwise.
I don't know whether it's funy or trajic that you've literally converged on the same code of concdut as the "SJWs" you so fear, except that because you hate and fear the "SJW" you're determined to make all the same mistakes again.
1. Act like civilized adults,
That's what we used to say except it turns out that everyone has their own ideas about what "civilised adults" are so it has to be spelled out more clearly.
2. Any change to this code of conduct or establishing additional "Behavior codes" of any nature requires a 45 day discussion period, and a review of proposed changes by the core developers, and unanimous written consent of all core developers and active contributors.
You've just doomed your mailing list to endless flamey discussions as to whether a particular bit of behaviour is "civilised" or indeed "adult". I'm sure that's a great improvement!
You better start cleaning up
I have started by cleaning up this thread! zing!
You should be forced the read your comment history.
I do, frequently. It's awesome!
You seem to be making the argument "I've never had a problem therefore no one else has". Souds a bit ducbious to me.
No one has a "better claim".
A curious philosophy.
Everyone is equal and every idea is equally good.
Seems unlikely.
You SJW can't even maintain coherency for more than five minutes.
You mean I can't maintain coherence with whatever notion is currently flitting through your head? Well thank god for that!
You don't really get that this is a threaded discussion do you?
Ah I see it's an axiom of yours that competent people can never be for a code of conduct.
Perhaps I need to be sent in for SJW indoctrination as well?
Please don't. I find your irregular spamming of threads rather entertaining. I suspect it happens when you've got plenty of time while you're "resting" between jobs after you got fired for misconduct.
And you do hate the Nazis, no "lol" about it, is there?
Well, it doesn't make you sound like you're a grumpy old fart who misses the 1950s, so it doesn't make me chuckle.
So, even if your characterisation of every single egalitarian is correct,
Not every egalitarian, but the self proclaimed ones, yeah.
You can justify an anti-equality position
Ah yes, white is black and anyone who atually tries to make things more equal is actually anti equality. Only people who sit on the sidelines and whine are the true egalitarians.
Marginalized. Every time, I can't help but imagine someone smeared in butter stuff.
I picture someone with one of their variables integrated out. Probably a quite painful procedure.
Read it. He's explicitly against discriminating based on sex and ancestry.
Yet instead of doing something about the rampant disctrimination in the industry that he's apparently against, he's whining about an organisation thats trying to give a small number of people from somewhat excluded groups a leg up.
Ethics, innit.
Strangely enough, when people start treating you like you've done something horrible, and you haven't, people don't like that.
Well this reveals a deeper truth. People fighting discrimination aren't telling you personally that you've done something wrong unless you have. Perhaps the problem is that it triggers introspection and you dislike what you see. So you lash out at the messenger.
The reason for me leaving are the changes in the community. The current license change discussions unfortunately bring to memory the fsf politics when I was working on gcc.
Sounds like this guy is a serial squeaky wheel. The FSF is and has always been a political organisation, with a well enumreated set of goals.
Sounds like he wants to work on large projects but can't stand the fact that other humans are involved.
So, I have to "be welcoming" to Communists,
Lol Communists. Did one of them sap and impurify your precious bodily fluid or something?
May this project crash, burn and rise from its ashes as a fork run by a meritocratically-minded group
You're not interested in a meritocracy. What you are proposing is an assholeocracy with some sort of minimum standard for skill.
Are you attempting to claim that the group that makes up the vast majority of the contributors is disfavoured?
When someone says "I'm sorry, I can't be associated with that movement because I am an egalitarian",
Whenever someone says that they're complaining about someone trying to change the status quo. Oddly nothing ever satisfies those self-proclaimed "egalitarians" when it comes to maintaing the satus quo. Oddly the distinctly non egalitarian status quo doesn't seem to bother them at all.
And you openly being happy to exclude people because they don't agree with you,
I'm openly happy to exclude people who diagree with me on certain things. For example some people think I should be murdered and I disagree and I'm happy to exclude them over that disagreement.
when they BUILT the community
Chris Lattner has a better claim to that than this diva and he's in favour of the code of conduct.
Of the two of you, one is behaving as an intolerant bigoted bully... and it isn't him.
So you've just noticed a little fragment of the paradox of tolerance and believe you've stumbled onto something profound. You haven't and it's been hashed out so many times before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Among other aspects, he's not getting paid for being the fifth highest contributor of submissions for LLVM
With 2.7% of contributions. IOW his contributions are dwarfed by the team which is why the person wiht the highest number of contrbutions thinks the COC which keeps most of the team together is the best way forward.
Indeed. SJW crap is just a modern form of a bunch of incompetents trying to seize control,
Chris Lattner is in charge and strongly supports the Code of Conduct. And he contributed much more than the subject of TFA. Buch of incompetents indeed.
It would be interesting to know the level of code contribution, and its quality, from the promoters of the CoC.
You mean like Chris Lattner, the lead and person who has contributed about 10x the amount of the primadonna in the article?