I agree with your remarks and want to add to this that exactly the same happened in email. When software houses like MS started to make email clients that can read HTML we got spam. When the same parties decide that attachments could also startup those same VBA macro's we got major worm attacks.
Now MS want's a paid email system...
I am sick of companies poisening our system to sell us snakeoil later.
Security is only secure if it can withstand scrutiny of the public because of it's openness. This forces the people involved to keep their code up to date. Security by obscurity is a fools game as people who have to work with obscurity get sloppy, 1 leak is lethal as MS is proving on a ever increasing rate. Last leak only repaired after 6 years?:roll eyes:
You can see from the File Contents History what mess this whole patent path is from the start that it is requested...
It had been denied a few times, there was a appeal, but stranger though the whole stuff was lost and was refound...
Strange case, even if you don't look who the players are...
With a TTL of 15 mins you have to generate a new zone 96 times a day to keep the zone visible during a whole day. I wonder if they want to speed up propogation time of new domain with this?
I think it is time that we make individuals inside organisations accountable and make laws that they are not able to hide behind a corporate legal enity. The manager screws things up? than that manager has to be accountable. If lower rank personel makes a mistake they often see themselfs without a job and lot of troubles. I want the same for managers, full accountability for the person that screwed up. This is also saver for a company as a whole as it can go on without having a bad rep if their management instead of the corporate legal entity was made accountable.
Nah, why take away the thrill and jobs of our childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,children?
The GPL is not so hard to understand and is hardly ambiguous...
This is the short and very clear deduction from the GPL text by the person that made the arangement for this copyright, Eben Moglen.
He said it in here:http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/ maine-speech.html
The GPL, whose language you've been referred to, is not quite as elegant a license as I would like but it is pretty short; yet I can put it more simply for you. It says: ``Take this software; do what you want with it--copy, modify, redistribute. But if you distribute, modified or unmodified, do not attempt to give anybody to whom you distribute fewer rights than you had in the material with which you began. Have a nice day.'' That's all. It requires no acceptance, it requires no contractual obligation. It says, you are permitted to do, just don't try to reduce anybody else's rights.
These big companies have their mouth full of punishing people that tell they found holes in applications.
Also I find that MS is so bold and arrogant to ask money for everything and tells others to stop doing things for nothing...
Let them pay for the info on security problems...
No payment, no bug reports, period.
They can take care of themselfs? ok let them solve their own problems...
Thanks all for the discussion in this threadpart...
If more of this takes place then more ideas will rise...
And no i was not nagging, i was just planting a little seed...;-)
to manage of course, not your parents unless they are geeks or able to do CSM configuration.
Don't forget to give them some flowers too, very important...
I do however wonder if chip fabs are ever to be sold to the open community...
In the 60's and 70's last century the large studio's in my country would smashup all equipment that was to be replaced, only to keep a alternative music stream from recording their own stuff...
That was very successful as only with the inevitable digital tech the alternative stream was able to cling on and do their own stuff without being dependent on the big players.
You know now what is happening to the recording industry...
Let's hope that the open movement will be able to buy fabs in due time...
When i am not able anymore to buy computers without some company is locking me into their hidden agenda I will stop all of it and will do other things instead...
Probably hacking all this crap as sole purpose...
That means he should go on with his businesses and not trying to make the public think he is such a good person...
I have nothing against business people, i do have a lot of trouble with business people that try very hard to make others think that he/she is a saint...
I agree with your remarks and want to add to this that exactly the same happened in email.
When software houses like MS started to make email clients that can read HTML we got spam.
When the same parties decide that attachments could also startup those same VBA macro's we got major worm attacks.
Now MS want's a paid email system...
I am sick of companies poisening our system to sell us snakeoil later.
Now only a spell checker...
Sorry i could not resist...
Need i say more?
People like that are only in for the money...
:roll eyes:
Security is only secure if it can withstand scrutiny of the public because of it's openness.
This forces the people involved to keep their code up to date.
Security by obscurity is a fools game as people who have to work with obscurity get sloppy, 1 leak is lethal as MS is proving on a ever increasing rate.
Last leak only repaired after 6 years?
oops... check here
You can see from the File Contents History what mess this whole patent path is from the start that it is requested... It had been denied a few times, there was a appeal, but stranger though the whole stuff was lost and was refound... Strange case, even if you don't look who the players are...
what adds?
I have a empowered hosts file to keep this stuff out, all the advertizement agencies get a entry in my hosts file with a pointer to 127.0.0.1
Guess what? I have a Apache running with a nice redirect to google in my root.
So all adds miraculously change into google searchboxes...
WOW!
A surprice party at a S/M parlour where he is treated with some fine thrashing until he obeys us.
With a TTL of 15 mins you have to generate a new zone 96 times a day to keep the zone visible during a whole day. I wonder if they want to speed up propogation time of new domain with this?
I think it is time that we make individuals inside organisations accountable and make laws that they are not able to hide behind a corporate legal enity.
The manager screws things up? than that manager has to be accountable.
If lower rank personel makes a mistake they often see themselfs without a job and lot of troubles.
I want the same for managers, full accountability for the person that screwed up.
This is also saver for a company as a whole as it can go on without having a bad rep if their management instead of the corporate legal entity was made accountable.
Nah, why take away the thrill and jobs of our childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,children?
I do not know any Canadian person that is creative...
The GPL is not so hard to understand and is hardly ambiguous...
/ maine-speech.html
This is the short and very clear deduction from the GPL text by the person that made the arangement for this copyright, Eben Moglen.
He said it in here:http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/publications
The GPL, whose language you've been referred to, is not quite as elegant a license as I would like but it is pretty short; yet I can put it more simply for you. It says: ``Take this software; do what you want with it--copy, modify, redistribute. But if you distribute, modified or unmodified, do not attempt to give anybody to whom you distribute fewer rights than you had in the material with which you began. Have a nice day.'' That's all. It requires no acceptance, it requires no contractual obligation. It says, you are permitted to do, just don't try to reduce anybody else's rights.
So stick by it or have a chance to get sued...
These big companies have their mouth full of punishing people that tell they found holes in applications.
Also I find that MS is so bold and arrogant to ask money for everything and tells others to stop doing things for nothing...
Let them pay for the info on security problems...
No payment, no bug reports, period.
They can take care of themselfs? ok let them solve their own problems...
For selling the rights of the American Public to the RIAA and MPAA for the little sum of 18.000 dollars...
Overall seen they are at the same level...
Also i think some merger of the 2 will take place in the long turn...
Never say never...
;-)
Thanks all for the discussion in this threadpart...
If more of this takes place then more ideas will rise...
And no i was not nagging, i was just planting a little seed...
to manage of course, not your parents unless they are geeks or able to do CSM configuration.
Don't forget to give them some flowers too, very important...
http://tikiwiki.sourceforge.net/
They really think that their position is garanteed by sexing up to a big player as a parts dealer...
We know what happens to part dealers locked into a single business model, yup they die, it is only a question of time...
I will cheer when that day comes...
Thanks for the link...
I do however wonder if chip fabs are ever to be sold to the open community...
In the 60's and 70's last century the large studio's in my country would smashup all equipment that was to be replaced, only to keep a alternative music stream from recording their own stuff...
That was very successful as only with the inevitable digital tech the alternative stream was able to cling on and do their own stuff without being dependent on the big players.
You know now what is happening to the recording industry...
Let's hope that the open movement will be able to buy fabs in due time...
This is why open source hardware is so much needed...
I say this time and time again but nobody seems to care untill it is too late...
I agree...
When i am not able anymore to buy computers without some company is locking me into their hidden agenda I will stop all of it and will do other things instead...
Probably hacking all this crap as sole purpose...
The problem is not the technique, the problem is the fraudulous mentality of the management of these companies...
I know he is a business person...
That means he should go on with his businesses and not trying to make the public think he is such a good person...
I have nothing against business people, i do have a lot of trouble with business people that try very hard to make others think that he/she is a saint...
They are not now and not ever...