But depending on if PC's can be built with electronics from pads and mobiles, prices may rise again to XT and AT prices from the mid 80's. These machines did not come cheap.
I hope that more projects like rapsberry pi will enable us serious PC users to continue while keeping cost at acceptable levels.
Mageia is a fork of the rock solid Mandriva 2010 codebase, Mandriva crashed with their experimental 2011 codebase and threw out the main builders of the product, these builders united in september 2010 to start Mageia.
They used the Mandriva 2010 to build the servers that make the distribution (puppet based) and made the Mageia 1 distro with the servers in june 2011. At this moment Mageia 2 is out there but it is not as stable, the product is in the middle of changing from startup scripts to systemd and has dbus and policy kit problems, half of my system does not startup in systemd mode so I am using startup scripts as I always have done.
The Mandriva they want to use for the desktop is less stable than the Mageia 2 they want to use for servers. I use Mandrake since ancient times and stayed with Mandriva and now with Mageia, I am used to it and it mostly works out of the box.
Only that French company, it has always been and probably stay a disaster.
b.t.w. I can hear that and also mosquito buzz like the ones in shopping malls. Oh yes, I am heading towards 50 years of age, not all old people have hearing problems. Nowadays more young than old people have hearing problems...
The problem is that a lot of developers making things on Linux started using Macs and instead of developing things for their Macs they try to change things on Linux to what they are used to.
I think that the majority of problems that were in the native environment are solved. Most of the desktop applications are mature and complete and a big part of the commandline never had problems that werent solvable to begin with. The last 10 years just caused a lot of problems to be solved on the web platform, now that HTML et al. are getting in mature state as well we will see coming 5 years that most problems on that platform are getting solved too. Even scalability problems are getting solved with virtual computing. This means attention is shifting to new platforms like mobile and pad until something new comes round the corner.
"While conventional wisdom says virtualized environments and public clouds create massive security headaches, the godfather of Xen, Simon Crosb, says virtualization actually holds a key to better security. Isolation — the ability to restrict what computing goes on in a given context — is a fundamental characteristic of virtualization that can be exploited to improve trustworthiness of processes on a physical system even if other processes have been compromised, he says"
Given the track record of the companies in IT, I really doubt his words. It will probably become mass breaches of security made easy.
Because the politicians' friends own these companies and in return the politicians receive a high paying board position after their political carreer. In other words, it's for the politicians' pension money.
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Mandriva isn't trusted by the community, that is why they forked it and named it Mageia, mainly to keep it from going under and to head for a new direction.
All the celebrities get a hefty monetary reward for giving up their privacy and now they expect us normal people to give it up for nothing (our only reward will be harassment). Screw them...
30 years ago most people were not into great HIFI equipment sound either, it always has been a minority. One of the reasons is that the majority of people does not listen to the music that a band is playing but to the lyrics that are being sung. So their definition of a great song is connected to the text, don't ask me why as I am puzzled because most lyrics are not really original, but then, I also wonder why lot's of people watch soaps.
The same parties (like Morgan Stanley etc...) pulled that one off in Asia 12 years ago and in Russia before that and now they are doing it in South of Europe. 1. make sure that governments invest in your real estate ponzi scheme(s) (build stuff that noone will use). 2. let the scheme(s) collapse. 3. make sure that the IMF gives a loan to these gorvernments to pay for the damages. 4. make sure the government use the loan to pay you off. 5. pull all that money out of that country. 6. stick up your middle finger to the people of that country while taking the profits and seeing that country go down.
This whole Patent and Intellectual Property craziness is because the politicians run out of ideas how to increase employment and Gross National Product. They see that they lost the battle of keeping manufacturing and other jobs into their countries, slowly all the money creeps toward the BRIC countries. What the politicians will be left with is the doom scenario that is unfolding in the Arabic countries round the Mediterranean and the creep of that scenario to the weak European economies round that same Mediterranean, 25% or more unemployment by young people who are at the prime age of being able to push revolutions.
Basically the Patent and Intellectual Property craziness is a lost gamble that will only bring a little time for the ruling classes, but they won't come with new ideas and in the end we will enter an era of poverty in the west, and we will see some Hitlers come and go.
What irritates me, especially of US companies is that they make billions over the back of poor people that work for them and try to do anything to keep these people from getting at least fair payment.
I think Steve Jobs like many of his peers is a very pathetic human being.
This is starting to change, the designer Marlies Dekkers has sued Sapph for patent infringement on a design for bra's in my country and won. This is setting a precedent for others to patent and sue.
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But depending on if PC's can be built with electronics from pads and mobiles, prices may rise again to XT and AT prices from the mid 80's.
These machines did not come cheap.
I hope that more projects like rapsberry pi will enable us serious PC users to continue while keeping cost at acceptable levels.
Mageia is a fork of the rock solid Mandriva 2010 codebase, Mandriva crashed with their experimental 2011 codebase and threw out the main builders of the product, these builders united in september 2010 to start Mageia.
They used the Mandriva 2010 to build the servers that make the distribution (puppet based) and made the Mageia 1 distro with the servers in june 2011.
At this moment Mageia 2 is out there but it is not as stable, the product is in the middle of changing from startup scripts to systemd and has dbus and policy kit problems, half of my system does not startup in systemd mode so I am using startup scripts as I always have done.
The Mandriva they want to use for the desktop is less stable than the Mageia 2 they want to use for servers.
I use Mandrake since ancient times and stayed with Mandriva and now with Mageia, I am used to it and it mostly works out of the box.
Only that French company, it has always been and probably stay a disaster.
It's the cold water that contains the food, not the warm water, so from that perspective this is not odd at all
You think stopping the tectonic renewal is a brilliant idea?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_transformer
b.t.w. I can hear that and also mosquito buzz like the ones in shopping malls.
Oh yes, I am heading towards 50 years of age, not all old people have hearing problems.
Nowadays more young than old people have hearing problems...
Uhm, A Tasmanian Devil would do...
Aahh, that's why you are so slow recently...
Thanks for that.
The problem is that a lot of developers making things on Linux started using Macs and instead of developing things for their Macs they try to change things on Linux to what they are used to.
I think that the majority of problems that were in the native environment are solved.
Most of the desktop applications are mature and complete and a big part of the commandline never had problems that werent solvable to begin with.
The last 10 years just caused a lot of problems to be solved on the web platform, now that HTML et al. are getting in mature state as well we will see coming 5 years that most problems on that platform are getting solved too.
Even scalability problems are getting solved with virtual computing.
This means attention is shifting to new platforms like mobile and pad until something new comes round the corner.
Most people will not have the luxury of deploying their own cloud but are stuck in some IT company it's cloud.
"While conventional wisdom says virtualized environments and public clouds create massive security headaches, the godfather of Xen, Simon Crosb, says virtualization actually holds a key to better security. Isolation — the ability to restrict what computing goes on in a given context — is a fundamental characteristic of virtualization that can be exploited to improve trustworthiness of processes on a physical system even if other processes have been compromised, he says"
Given the track record of the companies in IT, I really doubt his words.
It will probably become mass breaches of security made easy.
Not really, a soldier is a true hit and a civilian is colateral damage, easy solution, aint it?
Because the politicians' friends own these companies and in return the politicians receive a high paying board position after their political carreer.
In other words, it's for the politicians' pension money.
You mean just like subsidised nuclear power?
Mandriva isn't trusted by the community, that is why they forked it and named it Mageia, mainly to keep it from going under and to head for a new direction.
All the celebrities get a hefty monetary reward for giving up their privacy and now they expect us normal people to give it up for nothing (our only reward will be harassment).
Screw them...
30 years ago most people were not into great HIFI equipment sound either, it always has been a minority.
One of the reasons is that the majority of people does not listen to the music that a band is playing but to the lyrics that are being sung.
So their definition of a great song is connected to the text, don't ask me why as I am puzzled because most lyrics are not really original, but then, I also wonder why lot's of people watch soaps.
I for one do not welcome our mini ice-age overlords...
The same parties (like Morgan Stanley etc...) pulled that one off in Asia 12 years ago and in Russia before that and now they are doing it in South of Europe.
1. make sure that governments invest in your real estate ponzi scheme(s) (build stuff that noone will use).
2. let the scheme(s) collapse.
3. make sure that the IMF gives a loan to these gorvernments to pay for the damages.
4. make sure the government use the loan to pay you off.
5. pull all that money out of that country.
6. stick up your middle finger to the people of that country while taking the profits and seeing that country go down.
What you describe is a Monopoly.
Ask their Chinese employees, oh wait, they can't answer because they were blown to pieces for their $2,- a day wage.
So shut up yourself ass.
This whole Patent and Intellectual Property craziness is because the politicians run out of ideas how to increase employment and Gross National Product.
They see that they lost the battle of keeping manufacturing and other jobs into their countries, slowly all the money creeps toward the BRIC countries.
What the politicians will be left with is the doom scenario that is unfolding in the Arabic countries round the Mediterranean and the creep of that scenario to the weak European economies round that same Mediterranean, 25% or more unemployment by young people who are at the prime age of being able to push revolutions.
Basically the Patent and Intellectual Property craziness is a lost gamble that will only bring a little time for the ruling classes, but they won't come with new ideas and in the end we will enter an era of poverty in the west, and we will see some Hitlers come and go.
What irritates me, especially of US companies is that they make billions over the back of poor people that work for them and try to do anything to keep these people from getting at least fair payment.
I think Steve Jobs like many of his peers is a very pathetic human being.
You are wrong, Dutch women are not that easy but mostly arrogant and stuck up into their status thing.
This is starting to change, the designer Marlies Dekkers has sued Sapph for patent infringement on a design for bra's in my country and won. This is setting a precedent for others to patent and sue.