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  1. Logic ? Re:India Colonizes Cyberspace while US on BusinessWeek on Outsourcing · · Score: 1

    Sure we do have children. After all when we are dead, who is going to pay all the National Debt? Plug the Deficit ?

    And who is going to finance our medicines while we are old and dying. Of course our children !

    But you know what? Someday they are going to be dead too. Hopefully they will die wiser than us, so that their children can live a little better than what we afforded to our own.

    Face the facts. Logic takes you only so far. Sometimes a little too far. Witness the prize that Rumsfeld was recently give for his "logical labyrinth."

    I would prefer Keynes "rhetoric" anyday to Rumsfeld's logic. Thank you very much.

  2. Not Want to, but sometimes because they Can on Encouraging Co-Operation In MMO Titles? · · Score: 3, Interesting

    that ignores the power of freeform interaction. The simple fact is that players are engaging in these interactions because they want to.

    Many times the interaction is not because they want to, but it's just because they can.

    Some people climb a mountain and then freeze to death there. Why ? Because they don't ask themselves why climb a mountain, they ask themselves why not ?

  3. Re:India Colonizes Cyberspace while US colonizes I on BusinessWeek on Outsourcing · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guess who is going to have more benefits in the long run ?

    Really ? In the Long Run? Economist John Maynard Keynes said In the long run ... we are all dead.

  4. Nuclear War with a Telephone ... Holy Cow. on Mitnick Calls for Hacker Stories · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Four of his years inside were served before he was even tried, and he was forced to endure eight months in solitary confinement because "the government said I could start a nuclear war if I had access to a telephone," Mitnick says.

    Holy cow, is this serious ?

    But, just imagine if J. Reno could come up with the Nuclear War stuff for Mitnick, what a field day J. Ashcroft would have had if he had a chance ... Or maybe Ashcroft is already having a S&M ball. It is all so secretive nowadays.

    Lucky Mitnick...

  5. Big Daddy is Watching you ... on Your Cell Phone Is Tracking You · · Score: 1

    .... had the odd sensation that her father was watching her

    I couldn't help notice that Orwell's Big Brother (1984) might have to be updated for this New-World (2004) (in New-Speak) to

    Big Daddy is Watching You, Yes YOU.

  6. I am committed to delivering ... on More E-Voting SNAFUs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Walden O'Dell, head of Diebold Election Systems, wrote a letter to Republican contributors in August that said "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

    Maybe there really was much basis for his confidence ....

  7. Re:Yahoo and Hot Mail should turn on by default on Clay Shirky: RIAA Succeeds Where Cypherpunks Fail · · Score: 1
    Well, it is a good point, and all I can do is make a stab at the solution ...
    • If you leave the key with Yahoo, then I am sure they have enough backups and redundancy that the chances of it getting lost are miniscule.
    • If you take the key away from Yahoo and don't have backups and redundancy, then you aren't sophisticated to begin with. And if you aren't sophisticated, what are you doing with the key anyway ?
    • If you aren't sophisticated and can't handle your key but still need encryption, then you need to find a system other than public/private keys to handle encrytion ....
  8. Escher's Print Gallery may provide some insight .. on Sentient Data Access · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have thought about how to implement this and found that Escher's Print Gallery brought me my knees ... why ? here is the story in brief ...

    a workflow that involves a myriad of data types, including:

    • two-dimensional concept sketches;
    • computer-rendered images;
    • animations and movies of cars in various environments;
    • 3-D clay and computer models at various scales;
    • interior textures and fabrics;
    • and engineering data.

    The basic problem is to be able to show the data in 1D, 2D and 3D. Then, there are pseudo dimensions that give rise to 1.5D, 2.5 D, and finally the element of Time T has to be taken into each of these spaces. The crux of the problem is to maintain continuity of "something" that flows between each of these spaces - often in an iterative and recursive fashion. This something can be abstracted as an object (which I call the Bubble, hence my domain name BubbleUI !) and the authors say

    ... environment can be conceptualized as running an object-oriented simulator in which each computational element is abstracted into an object. Objects dynamically enter and leave the environment .... We envision a usage scenario that involves coordinated use of all these terminals. While they are all interconnected at the systems level, from the user's perspective, a seamless mechanism for transporting work from one device to another is highly desirable.

    To be able to visualize this the best I can do is suggest that you look at the Paint Gallery by MC Escher . and here Just Imagine that the paintings in the Gallery are not Static paintings, but are actually windows looking into the Real World. As the Real World is dynamic, when you revist a given window, it is possible that things might have changed. Then, you will have a good idea of what you mind has to get a handle on, before a user can have "sentient data access."

    The concept of visualling the Prints in the Print Gallery as Windows is not too off-base because the Article describes that there is a desire to integrate the physical with the visual ....

    An advantage to using bar codes is that we can also integrate physical assets into our system.

    And the article also says that there are more than just Static Screens that have to be incorporated

    The different tasks in this workflow are typically performed

    • by different people,
    • at different locations,
    • and often using very different and specialized hardware and software.

    So accomodate the above requirement, imagine now that there is not a single Spectator in the Gallery, but there are many people looking at many "Windows" at the same time. And like in real life these Spectators interact with each other inside the Print Gallery (FIGURE), just as the Real World visible from the Windows is interacting in the background (GROUND)..

    After all is said and done, the conclusion that I came up with in the 1st draft of my doctoral thesis (which was rejected and I then approached this subject different which was then accepted) was that the Glue to bind it all is the Cognition of the User - i.e. PortfolioBrowser==User

    The glue that binds our diverse collection of terminals, containers, and identifiers is a software infrastructure we call PortfolioBrowser. ... the design of our PortfolioBrowser embraces our fundamental goal of minimizing transaction costs at all times, throughout the entire system.

    The User, in my conception, is the PortfolioBrowser. And because of this choice at the center o

  9. Re:Yahoo and Hot Mail should turn on by default on Clay Shirky: RIAA Succeeds Where Cypherpunks Fail · · Score: 1

    Good Question. You are right that it would be hard to do it in one go, and the goal might have to be achieved in stages. I can think of at least two stages ...

    The first thing as you said is to create white noise so that the stigma of encrypting disappears. Yahoo currently uses a single password to give access to your email, calendar, notes, geocities space etc. This single password is almost like a superpassword. The same super-password can be used to access your private encryption key that yahoo could store on its own servers.

    Then the second step would be to allow sophisticated users to remove the private key from the yahoo servers and keep it wherever they want. Then the super-password would access all of the Yahoo services except the private key.

    I know that the first step is not a strong a security system, but it is a begining. That way you can create the white noise, and you can allow it by default. Then, the second step would make the whole system more secure.

  10. Ellsion Was defined by Negative Space of Gates on Everyone Else Must Fail · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One thing that the Review did not bring out, which I think the Book might have, is the total fixation that Ellsion has on Gates. It is almost like a fetish. The significant parts of his career can almost said to be defined more by Gates that by his ownself. Gates ain't my favorite, but Ellison is less so.

    The Big Fight: Oracle vs. Microsoft "In this corner is challenger Oracle CEO Larry Ellison and the NC (Network Computer). In the opposite corner is reigning champion Microsoft CEO Bill Gates and the NetPC. The low-cost computing fight has begun. This fight between Ellison and Gates isn?t solely about low-cost computing. It also concerns who?s in charge of the computer industry and mixes in the personal animosity between the two software rivals. Referring to Microsoft, Ellison said, ?The idea the world could be controlled by one company is shocking and unacceptable.? "

    There was a time when Oracle's Ellison Closer Than Ever To Richest-Man Title "Larry Ellison may spend some quality time with his calculator this week. His net worth hasn't been this close to that of rival Bill Gates since 1986--that is, figuring in only their stakes in Microsoft and Oracle. While Oracle's stock has held up well this month, Microsoft shares have fallen dramatically because of renewed speculation that the government will break up the company. As of today's market close, Microsoft Chairman Gates' stake in Microsoft is worth $49.4 billion. Oracle Chief Executive Ellison has $48 billion worth of Oracle stock."

    But then it so happened Ellison was reduced to Dumpster Diving into M$ trash "Ellison maintained his company did nothing illegal in commissioning the investigation, which was revealed earlier this month after the detective agency Oracle had retained, Investigative Group International, was caught trying to buy from dustmen the office rubbish of the Association for Competitive Technology, a Microsoft-funded industry front group. To demonstrate his apparent belief that all's fair in Love, War and Corporate Public Relations, Ellison challenged Microsoft to investigate his own company in return. "We will ship them our garbage," he joked. "We will ship our garbage to Redmond, and they can go through it. We believe in full disclosure.""

    Characteristically Ellison told a Forbes reporter in 1996 that he was about to purchase a T-38 Supersonic jet fighter. "Maybe I should fire a few Maverick missiles in his [Gates'] living room," he joked.

    His fixation was apparent when he said ""The only software company we care about a lick ... is Microsoft Oracle is second only to Microsoft in terms of operating margin strength. And while much of Oracle's advertising is focused on its database battle with IBM, Ellison conceded that Microsoft remains his main focus. "The only software company we care about a lick ... is Microsoft," said Ellison, who also fielded questions regarding analysts' and investors' major concerns: executive departures and competition in Oracle's key database market."

    In keynote speeches, informal gatherings and private interviews, "the Oracle chief slips easily into long rants on what he sees as Gates' quest to dominate everything Microsoft touches. One favorite Ellison refrain is that Gates wants a world of "Microsoft English." Ellison in recent years has built a public image around pointed attacks on his competitor Microsoft, often singling out its Chairman, rich-man Gates, as a villainous copier of technology with a misguided vision of the computer industry."

    Other nice juicy Larry_Speak

  11. Cable Company to Offer $25 Reward .... on Cable Box Piracy Ring Busted · · Score: 2

    Gwenice Garnett was happy to hear about the bust as she stopped by Comcast this evening to upgrade to digital cable. She's paying 70-bucks a month. Garnette says, "I pay a substantial amount of money for my cable and if I have to pay, they should have to pay!"

    Wow, with people like this all the cable company has to do is offer a prize of $25.00.00.00 (Twenty Five $$$$$$ only) and every "pirate" is going to be rat-ted out in no time.

    More money will of course be made when the Rat gets on the TV shows "selling" their story of how they bravely turned in every Tom, Jane, and Harry to collect their Mega Bounty.

    And with DEA conspiring to get the Kids to rat on their parents, the determination of the Assistant US Attorney should be in doubt to no one ..

  12. Will the Retribution Be Just enough .... on Bob Young's Open Letter to SCO/Darl McBride · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All you are doing is causing your audience to educate themselves. Once everyone understands how wrong you are your stock price will suffer. Hmmm, suddenly when I think about it - you might in fact be doing us all a favor.

    After all is said and done, all that may happen is that SCO's stock price may suffer ? Really, is this Just enough ? Will Justice have been served after all the mayhem that has been created ?

    Borrowing from Friedman in NYTimes

    ... the image that comes to mind is that famous scene in the movie "The Shining" where Jack Nicholson, playing a crazed author, tries to kill his wife, played by Shelley Duvall, who's hiding in the bathroom. As Ms. Duvall cowers behind the locked bathroom door, Mr. Nicholson takes an ax, smashes it through the door, and with a look of cheery madness peers through the splintered wood and announces, "Heeeere's Johnny."

    And the analogy would be that after all this Johnny's book doesn't sell well in the market. Other than that his life goes on ....

    I am all for a little poetic justice .... How about adopting a little from What The Onion had in store for the Gigli Stars and dish it out to Darl, SCO, and all the members in their Axis ....

    To quote from the Onion Story .... Focus groups at advance screenings for Gigli, a romantic comedy starring Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez set to open nationwide July 30, have demanded a new ending in which both stars die "in as brutal a manner as possible," sources at Sony Pictures said Tuesday.
  13. RBTFL Re:Why isn't "someone" Tim Bray on Learning About Full-text Search · · Score: 1

    Sure we did RTFA. Can you Read Between The F* Lines RBTFL ?

    Here is what Tim says:

    This essay is about what that software should look like. Early next year I'll write something on how it MIGHT get built.

    So BRF is going to be open-source.

    I plan to conclude with a description of the next search engine, which doesn't exist yet but someone ought to start building.

    And if the following is not Consultant-Speak I don't know what is - Consultants are great at telling you why you should not be doing what you are doing. They might even tell you what you should be doing - but do they ever do anything except collect big fees. I have been on both sides and I know people who talk and people who walk. Stop talking and start walking.

    always going to be search deployments loaded with tricky implementation and deployment work

    figuring out where the data is,

    aggregating it,

    cleaning it up,

    building the workflows so these things keep happening,

    maintaining some application-specific synonyms,

    the list goes on and on,

  14. Yahoo and Hot Mail should turn on by default on Clay Shirky: RIAA Succeeds Where Cypherpunks Fail · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the fastest way to get encryption turned on by default is to have these major email providers (like Yahoo and Hotmail) to turn on encryption by default. If they did so, then there will be enough momentum for the other providers to do so too, and anyone using encryption would not stand out as a potential trouble-maker ....

    The reason why it is importatnt to have a critical mass of communications in encryption is becuase otherwise the people encrypting sorely stand out. If I decide (which I would love to) start encrypting today, many people would wonder what sort of shady business I have gotten into. Not to mention Ashcroft would be after me, with a claim that I am some Lone-Wolf terrorist ...

    My point is that there should be there has to be enough people encrypting for it to become feasible. If I am one of the people encrypting while others are not then I am the proverbial needle in a haystack. Any magnet can easily pull me out by my jugular ... If I am one of the many other people encrypting then I am just another hay in the hystack ... much harder then to grab me by my b**** ....

  15. Why isn't "someone" Tim Bray on Learning About Full-text Search · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I plan to conclude with a description of the next search engine, which doesn't exist yet but someone ought to start building.

    "Someone" ought start building ... I wonder why this someone isn't Tim Bray. He is one of the most well known names in XML, has experience under his belt with another Search Engine Project Antartica .....

    I just mean it in the sense that if he is having trouble getting his own ideas himself off the ground, what a challenge it will be for someone else to do so.

    Mr. Bray should get the thing going like Linus did, and call in help from the Open Source Community. If he is waiting for someone with moneybags to catch the bait, and call him on the project as a highly paid consultant, maybe the approach needs to be modified.

    Go Open Source Tim ... and get the ball rolling. You will be surprised how much help you will get ...

  16. Just in Time for the Elections .... on U.S. Spam Law to Take Effect Jan. 1 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Bush's campaign has an e-mail list totaling 6 million people, 10 times the number that Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean has, and the Bush operation is in the middle of an unprecedented drive to register 3 million new Republican voters. Source - Washington Post

    Looks to me as the laws were conveniently rewritten (as the have been for the past many months) to make legit what would not have been easily defensible without the rewritten laws ....

    Maybe the CAN-SPAM law is more commercial than political. But, I am starting to believe that most politics is now commercial ... Am I one of just a few sceptics ?

  17. Lemelson & Prosecution Laches Defense Re:paten on Company Claims Patent on CD Writing · · Score: 2, Informative

    In patent circles Lemelson was the name of the game .... The basic concept was to file a patent, and then let it sit and sit and sit, and when enough people were using the patent, then Lemelson would get the patent issued and sue. Not exactly the same here, but as some other posts have mentioned, the effect is essentially the same. The Patent Office recognized this and I think designed systems to avoid the Lemelson Strategy ... I think these were also called the "submarine patents."

    Optima believes most every company in the CD-burner industry may be infringing." Optima's patent was infringed in several standards adopted by the Optical Storage Technology Association (OSTA), which have been incorporated in a number of CD-ROM hardware and software products ...

    So, it is adopted as a Standard, and then Optima sues after almost every CD burner is using it ....

    From the Lemelson Patents Online Website http://www.lemelsonpatents.com/

    Setback For Lemelson As Appeals Court Reinstates Prosecution Laches? Defense - January 24, 2002 ... The basic theory of the defense is that Lemelson's patents should be held unenforceable because of the unusually long and unexplained delay between the filing of the original application and the issuance of the corresponding patents. The prosecution laches defense nearly succeeded against Lemelson in an earlier action ....
    ....
    If the defense is successful in the Reno case, it could cripple the Lemelson Foundation's patent enforcement efforts.

    I haven't been following the Reno case, but sure do hope that the Roxio defense is successful, and it cripples Optima's patent enforcement efforts. Best of luck Roxio.

  18. "Democracies die behind closed doors." on SCO Code to be Protected in Closed Court · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Judge Damon J. Keith, in the Cincinnati ruling, opined that "Democracies die behind closed doors."

    Little surprise, Darl figures SCO will survive behind closed doors.

    And it is true that SCO will survive only as long as it is behind closed doors. Open the doors, let the light shine, and let people pore over the code .... SCO is then as good as dead ....

  19. Many Minds need to be BLOWN up ..... on Viral GPL Misconceptions Elegantly Explained · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only part people have trouble getting their heads around is the fact that the GPL grants you additional rights, whereas most EULAs further restrict rights beyond the restrictions of copyright law,

    Whereas EULA's restrict rights, GPL grants you additional rights ... This I think is very well put, and it immediately brings to mind the development of numbers ... from positive to negative, and gives a hint of why some people are having trouble understanding the expansive developments ...

    When numbers started off they were probably used to count stuff like sheep and bales. So all that was need was positive numbers. And that was that. Now I can imagine someone came up with the concept of negative numbers, and many people would have been flabbergasted. What ? Negative numbers ? What are they supposed to stand for ? Can you have a negative number of Sheep ? Can there be negative number of Bales. Ha Ha. Mr. King, Can you see how stupid the idea of negative numbers is ...

    But of course we now know that negative numbers are not a stupid idea. But a pretty brilliant idea. And then of course Zero is a brillianter idea. And don't get me started on Complex numbers ....

    Me thinks, Darl is an Ape who still thinks that numbers should only be positive, and the rest of the things like negative numbers, zero, and complex numbers, are going to destroy the whole notion of property - because, he thinks, all property has to be positive.

    Of course Darl forgets that in addition to positive (credit), property can be negative (debt), or zero (easy come easy go) and complex (the financial instruments and derivatives ...) .....

  20. Re:Spam by Any Other name will not sound so Odius on The Life of a Spammer · · Score: 1

    Interesting ...

    on the other hand, spam increases the cost of internet service.

    Do you mean to say that if the amount of spam on the Internet was reduced, AOL would reduce your monthly access fee ?

    I don't think so.

    And don't get me wrong. I hate spam because it steals from the limited time I have in my day.

    I just believe that the economics of electronic communication are just so compelling, that the Big Companies, with the expensive lobbyists, are going to figure out a way to corner the market - and then split the pie amongst themselves.

    Like in Orwell's Animal Farm, once the Pigs take over the farm, they will become just like the human masters. Life for the rest of the farm may be unchanged, or get even worse. Once the Big Companies edge out the current spammers, using legislation and lobbying, the amount of spam in your box is not going to decrese - just the products mentioned in them are going to change.

  21. Spam by Any Other name will not sound so Odius on The Life of a Spammer · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Anyone with a little technical know-how and $1,000 for a computer and some e-mail addresses can become a spammer -- and with jobs hard to come by, many do.

    I don't know about most people, but isn't this business model just too too tempting ? The act of spamming, by whatever name, is here to stay. And the fact of the matter is that when the Big Boys move in they will edge out the small time spammers. United States set to Legalize Spamming on 1 January 2004 http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=150 Spam by Any Other name will not sound so Odius.

    Frankly, I hear the same thing about how much crap there is on TV - but is anyone really doing anything about reducing the crap on it today ? Why because it is the Big Five or Six Companies that control it ....

    As Fox sees it, she is no different from those who barrage mailboxes with catalogs from Lands' End or Pottery Barn.

    Here I do disagree. Land's End spends hundreds of thousands designing and illustrating it's catalogs so that they can entice the customer to buy. The spammers don't do any such thing, and their main goal is to design the messages so that it evades the spam filters - that is why the strange characters and mangled words ...

    Someday, when the Big Companies start designing Spam with Mega-Budgets, and they can make the eye candy hypnotizing like it is on TV, I am sure few people will complain. I know many people who will spend hours watching nothing on TV, and occasionally complain about it - but then do nothing.

    Diversion and Delusion is the Opium of the masses.

  22. Less Advertising - More Spamming Re:Advertisement on Music Industry Develops Centralized File-Sharing System · · Score: 1

    Wragg thinks the entertainment industry could offer bonuses to people who send a certain number of files on to friends. "It could be that you would earn reward points for the number of people you recommend a film to," he told New Scientist.

    It sounds like Spamming to me. What else does a spammer do ? And who is your "friend" - anybody whom you send stuff to so that you can earn rewards ... ?

    This is nothing but a concerted effort to monetize and eventually collect tax on spam by hijacking the legal system, redefining the mean of Spam, and redefining the meaning of Spammer ... Orwell would be turning in his grave with this new-speak.

    After this United States set to Legalize Spamming on 1 January 2004 http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=150 this is just the next logical step. Spam Spam Spam ....

    "It could be that you would earn reward points for the number of people you recommend a film to,"

    Thank you very much. I have enough people recommending me porn, viagra, and what not .... The last thing I need is "friends" recommending me films (maybe porn films, and worse the trash music and films that the Big Labels are trying to peddle) ...

  23. Is brief really very long time for the Photon? on Scientists Freeze Pulse Of Light · · Score: 5, Insightful
    have been able to stop light for a very brief period of time
    a very brief period of time ? .. I think it depends on what perspective you look at it from.

    I am just building my reasoning backwards. To understand what happens to the Photon when it stops, let's first see what happens to the photon when it moves at - well - the speed of light.

    From the quickest reference I could dig thru http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.07/es_warp.ht ml?pg=3&topic=

    Einstein also predicted that time itself must slow down for objects in motion. The faster you move, the slower your clocks would appear to tick - relative to someone watching from a remote location. If you could actually reach light speed, time would crawl to a stop. It's wildly counterintuitive, but experiments have proved it true.

    So, the faster the photon moves the slower the clocks would appear to move. Then, I guess, the slower the Photon moves the faster the clock would appear to move. And when the photon STOPS, the clock must be moving INSANELY FAST. So how could it be a very brief period of time ? .. I think it is a very very very long period of time.

    Guess, it all depends on which perspective you are looking at, and how you are measuring time ...

  24. Personalize and Extend Re:3Dtop one ... on Simon Phipps Looks At 'Looking Glass' · · Score: 1

    My use of a desktop, and esp. the 3D Desktop is very personal, and I use a lot of tools to achieve what I want. It would take a long time to convey what I do, but let me try to start by answering your specific questions ...

    Most people's desktops just seem to be a rather disorganised collection of shortcuts and temporary documents

    This is true as M$ could never really communicate what they were trying to do with the Desktop Metaphor. And their tendency to define "special folders" and then hide them in the Windows subfolder was not very helpful ... And I think in their Win XP version they have tried to retrace their steps - emphasizing a clean desktop, automatically removing unused icons etc ... Personally I believe, M$ screwed by taking this approach and have wasted the whole paradigm of Desktop ..

    It would help if Windows didn't forget where your desktop icons were when you do things like change res, but even so it just seems like a dumping ground.

    I use a program called Iconlock which gives me the option os saving in the Right-Click Context Menu of the Desktop. Looks now it is hard to get a free copy but I have an older and free version of it. Let me know and I can upload it somewhere for you. Otherwise you might find better substitutes that achieve the same goal. Iconlock lets you save the various arrangements of the icons ... The saving mechanism is quite extensive, and more you use it the more powerful it becomes esp when you redefine the Desktop folders.

    You could use TweakUI to redefine your Desktop. Use the program to define ANY folder (not just c:\win\desktop) to become your desktop. It does make you Log On/Off but it is a minor irritant. That way you can get whatever icons you want on your Desktop using TweakUI, and then resort to the saved Icon arrangement using Iconlock.

    The apps I use everyday go on the quick launch bar.

    QuickLaunch is my place of choice for Icons. Notwithstanding the fact that people say too many icons there make it load slow- I have about 130 icons, and I am doing just Fine. It is nice because no matter where you are, you can always hit the Windows button on the Keyboard, and all your shortcuts are immediately there ...

    As it stands I find an incontinuity between the spatial desktop and the list based files/folders in a file manager.

    This is the crux of the problem, and there is no complete solution to it. In fact you have to balance the flow of information from 1D listing, to 2D X-Y plane, (and extending it with Virtual Desktop Manager like JS Pager using the Natural Skin) to the 3D using 3Dtop. Actually the 3Dtop window is just a window and you can make it just one of the virtual windows on the JS Pager ..... In each of the 1D, 2D, and 3D, there are nestings and recursions of information, and also there are pseudo layers, i.e.1.5 D, 2.5D, and you also have to look at the temporal aspect. So, it does take a little while to be able to make a packet of information move from one type of dispaly to another, and as you can't preserve all the information tradeoff's have to be made. It is these tradeoff's that make it hard to describe my system.

    Then I use programs like Peepshowlite to be able to cut thru layers, and the Peepshow Full program lets you make multiple incisions ...

    To control which windows stay on the top, and to control their transparency I use the program PowerMenu ...

    Anyway, I know you must be thoroughly confused by now, but all of these and many more utilities come

  25. On Win 98 Re:3Dtop one of my favorites .... on Simon Phipps Looks At 'Looking Glass' · · Score: 1

    Yes, it is an old program. It still works for me, but then I am still using Win 98 and Win 2000 on my computers. Never moved to XP.

    I just tested the download from the link that I provided and it still works for me.

    There are more details here http://www.wirehub.nl/~technica/3dtop/home.html but, unfortunately, the Developer moved on to create some rather "new age-ish" biofeedback programs, rather than concentrating on 3Dtop ... So, this program is no longer supported. The link above gives an old version of the program, while the majorgeek link http://www.majorgeeks.com/download186.html lets you download a newer and much more powerful version.

    If you have access to an older version of Windows, do have a look at the program. It is worth it.