I don't know how it works in the US - I don't live there. But in the UK and Canada, if you speed you get demerit points on your license. Too many points and you get banned. Doesn't matter if you're a millionaire, or a pauper - too many points = ban.
So yes, in these countries speed limits *are* about protecting people. If your country doesn't use a system like that, more fool you!
Sure people in the UK and Canada speed. People in America still murder despite capital punishment still being used in many states. The fact that the punishment doesn't actually deter people from doing the crime, doesn't mean you shouldn't have laws saying it's not right to do that.
It's fortunate for everyone that this happened in England where the corporations don't dominate government to quite the same degree as in the US.
OK, I can't play Fox commentator any more, I have do this part straight both as a member of said media and as a person who doesn't like this level of stupidity. What planet do you live on? The only difference is that it is better hidden in England, they are subtle, something that has been entirely lost in this country because things are so blatant there is no need for subtlety.
-Charlie
Perhaps you can provide some evidence for that? Until then, I don't think you know what you are talking about!
Rebecca Brooks: Arrested - former News International chief executive - hardly a low level employee Les Hinton: Arrested - chief executive of Dow Jones - again hardly a low level employee
News International's share price has dropped 6%, which whilst isn't a fine, but will certainly hammer the profits of the organisation as a whole.
You have to bear in mind, most of this is going on in England, where there isn't nearly the obvious corruption you get in American politics. There is corruption - it's government and comes with the territory - but its no where near as blatant. Even the Commissioner and Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan police have resigned, even though they had nothing to do with it, nor any knowledge of it going on.
Yeah! Enough to be punitive, but not so much that they can cry that the damages were excessive. I suspect Verizon would make that much in about a minute, and their lawyers cost them more than that to go to court. Serves them right for being so dumb in the first place. Heh - it would probably cost them more than that to appeal.
It'll probably also cover this lady's phone bill for the next 5 years!
1) Google can index whatever they like. They are not *required* to index anything (though they'd be a pretty shit search engine if they didn't index anything;). 2) Google may just be viewing it as protecting themselves from being sued again by these companies.
Even *if* it is a blatant attempt to punish $org$, it serves $org$ right for suing Google instead of taking a more measured and technical approach. By measured I mean actually discussing it with Google and asking them to remove the content - rather than just suing (which is the usual knee jerk reaction these days). By technical, I mean use of robots.txt as discussed numerous times else where under this story.
If I were Google right now, I'd have my engineers contacting the other sites listed on Google News and telling them how to configure their robots.txt. If the other companies don't respond it's not Google's fault!
Really? I wasn't aware they had speed limits (as a trivial example) when common law was written. When the common law has nothing to base it's precedent on then new laws need to be created so that new precedents can be moulded by common law.
Cos you know - giving them tax cuts has worked so well. Utter BS - check your stats a little closer and you'll find that despite enormous tax cuts (or even rebates FFS) they are still shedding staff.
What is it about government IT projects that makes them go so disastrously wrong? The UK government are no better at getting it right. The MOD* procurement system was a similar mess - over budget, and didn't do what it was set out to do.
As someone else pointed out, this should be being used in hospitals. This probably should not be being used in something as trivial as socks. One of the problems we're seeing with resistant bacteria is due to the overuse of antibiotics. Perhaps we need a multi-pronged approach?
If you're a poorly educated worker, who just wants to go to work, make whatever the employer wants made and go home with his pay cheque, most people will accept that they are being watched. Same as a lot of employers monitor when people are going for their toilet breaks as though that were some way of ensuring that the person concerned is doing their work.
This is why unions are a good idea - to watch the watchers, to prevent this kind of abuse. Unfortunately, the unions are just as greedy as the employers and demand too much.
Americans don't walk anywhere - that would be un-American.
Joking aside, in Britain, I've never had trouble crossing small roundabouts in Britain. You wait for the traffic to stop, then cross. Bigger roundabouts tend to have subways underneath or bridges over the top.
Higher taxes? Its the standard answer to any question that America seems to come up with, despite being quite the reverse. Americans hate paying taxes, even if its something for their own good, and they receive a direct benefit from those taxes.
Most intersections in the states require lights and electronics that need to be maintained, requiring a small team to replace light bulbs etc. A roundabout would probably need a gardener once a year. Possibly not even that if it's paved.
They are only a problem for people who are unused to them. As with all change, it will take time for people to get used to them.
If it is aggressive drivers (as previously commented) who are causing accidents, this will push their insurance up and perhaps they will become more cautious. Isn't that the nature of free market economics that the Americans seem so fond of?
I also rip my DVDs, partly to get rid of the crap at the beginning (afterall, I paid for the DVD so why should I watch out of date adverts?), but also because I've moved from one region to another and my DVD player won't play discs from the new region. I could region 0 the player, but then I wouldn't also be able to watch the movies in the bedroom where I don't have DVD player.
But where would all the FTC employees get their new jobs when they approve huge deals like this? Meredith Atwell Baker and her ilk would end up languishing in some Federal organisation for the rest of their careers. Oh wait...
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You have heard that Blockbuster has filed for Chapter 11 - right?
I don't know how it works in the US - I don't live there. But in the UK and Canada, if you speed you get demerit points on your license. Too many points and you get banned. Doesn't matter if you're a millionaire, or a pauper - too many points = ban.
So yes, in these countries speed limits *are* about protecting people. If your country doesn't use a system like that, more fool you!
Sure people in the UK and Canada speed. People in America still murder despite capital punishment still being used in many states. The fact that the punishment doesn't actually deter people from doing the crime, doesn't mean you shouldn't have laws saying it's not right to do that.
It's fortunate for everyone that this happened in England where the corporations don't dominate government to quite the same degree as in the US.
OK, I can't play Fox commentator any more, I have do this part straight both as a member of said media and as a person who doesn't like this level of stupidity. What planet do you live on? The only difference is that it is better hidden in England, they are subtle, something that has been entirely lost in this country because things are so blatant there is no need for subtlety.
-Charlie
Perhaps you can provide some evidence for that? Until then, I don't think you know what you are talking about!
Sorry - you're right. I'm not sure where I got that from. Should have checked my facts a little more closely.
Rebecca Brooks: Arrested - former News International chief executive - hardly a low level employee
Les Hinton: Arrested - chief executive of Dow Jones - again hardly a low level employee
News International's share price has dropped 6%, which whilst isn't a fine, but will certainly hammer the profits of the organisation as a whole.
You have to bear in mind, most of this is going on in England, where there isn't nearly the obvious corruption you get in American politics. There is corruption - it's government and comes with the territory - but its no where near as blatant. Even the Commissioner and Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan police have resigned, even though they had nothing to do with it, nor any knowledge of it going on.
Surely the SMTP protocol is a one way messaging protocol - and is older than I am!
Yeah! Enough to be punitive, but not so much that they can cry that the damages were excessive. I suspect Verizon would make that much in about a minute, and their lawyers cost them more than that to go to court. Serves them right for being so dumb in the first place. Heh - it would probably cost them more than that to appeal.
It'll probably also cover this lady's phone bill for the next 5 years!
I'm not convinced.
Lets take two other views:
1) Google can index whatever they like. They are not *required* to index anything (though they'd be a pretty shit search engine if they didn't index anything ;).
2) Google may just be viewing it as protecting themselves from being sued again by these companies.
Even *if* it is a blatant attempt to punish $org$, it serves $org$ right for suing Google instead of taking a more measured and technical approach. By measured I mean actually discussing it with Google and asking them to remove the content - rather than just suing (which is the usual knee jerk reaction these days). By technical, I mean use of robots.txt as discussed numerous times else where under this story.
If I were Google right now, I'd have my engineers contacting the other sites listed on Google News and telling them how to configure their robots.txt. If the other companies don't respond it's not Google's fault!
Really? I wasn't aware they had speed limits (as a trivial example) when common law was written. When the common law has nothing to base it's precedent on then new laws need to be created so that new precedents can be moulded by common law.
Isn't that what the Tea Party are trying to do? Granted it may take a civil war, where thousands loose their lives. But hey!
Cos you know - giving them tax cuts has worked so well. Utter BS - check your stats a little closer and you'll find that despite enormous tax cuts (or even rebates FFS) they are still shedding staff.
The cephalopods are the overlords, the fish are just their minnows.
FTFY
Have you tried using Bing? It's sh*t by comparison to Google.
What is it about government IT projects that makes them go so disastrously wrong? The UK government are no better at getting it right. The MOD* procurement system was a similar mess - over budget, and didn't do what it was set out to do.
* Ministry of Defense
Just out of interest, what is Walmart's health insurance like for entry level employees?
I'm not a betting man, but I would put money on them spending more on dead peasant's insurance than health insurance
Yes, but they are doing that anyway.
As someone else pointed out, this should be being used in hospitals. This probably should not be being used in something as trivial as socks. One of the problems we're seeing with resistant bacteria is due to the overuse of antibiotics. Perhaps we need a multi-pronged approach?
Yes, it is functioning as designed. It's a flawed design, but it is by design. This is why software patents are a really dumb idea.
If you're a poorly educated worker, who just wants to go to work, make whatever the employer wants made and go home with his pay cheque, most people will accept that they are being watched. Same as a lot of employers monitor when people are going for their toilet breaks as though that were some way of ensuring that the person concerned is doing their work.
This is why unions are a good idea - to watch the watchers, to prevent this kind of abuse. Unfortunately, the unions are just as greedy as the employers and demand too much.
Americans don't walk anywhere - that would be un-American.
Joking aside, in Britain, I've never had trouble crossing small roundabouts in Britain. You wait for the traffic to stop, then cross. Bigger roundabouts tend to have subways underneath or bridges over the top.
Higher taxes? Its the standard answer to any question that America seems to come up with, despite being quite the reverse. Americans hate paying taxes, even if its something for their own good, and they receive a direct benefit from those taxes.
Most intersections in the states require lights and electronics that need to be maintained, requiring a small team to replace light bulbs etc.
A roundabout would probably need a gardener once a year. Possibly not even that if it's paved.
They are only a problem for people who are unused to them. As with all change, it will take time for people to get used to them.
If it is aggressive drivers (as previously commented) who are causing accidents, this will push their insurance up and perhaps they will become more cautious. Isn't that the nature of free market economics that the Americans seem so fond of?
Nah - he's not right wing enough
But then you'd have to live in Wakefield or Blackburn...
I also rip my DVDs, partly to get rid of the crap at the beginning (afterall, I paid for the DVD so why should I watch out of date adverts?), but also because I've moved from one region to another and my DVD player won't play discs from the new region. I could region 0 the player, but then I wouldn't also be able to watch the movies in the bedroom where I don't have DVD player.
But where would all the FTC employees get their new jobs when they approve huge deals like this? Meredith Atwell Baker and her ilk would end up languishing in some Federal organisation for the rest of their careers. Oh wait ...