now we just need 3com to make drivers for the 574 pcmcia ethernet card, because as anyone who has ever tried to get that damn card to work with the existing drivers knows, it just never works right...
Slashdot links to alot of web sites, which link to lots of web sites, which link to lots of web sites. In all everyone is only 19 clicks away from any point on the web. Does that mean we are all guilty.
I am sorry but as we would all agree, this is a lame lawsuit.
you are totally correct in saying what you did, but i think that the bottom line from people and the cause for concern is that the license is misleading. a possible fear from developers would be working very hard to make SO better, then Sun either not incorporating the changes into the product, or deciding to start charging for the product using the changes the developers made to further make Sun rich.
Which wouldnt hurt me, since iown lots of Sun stock... anyways people have a right to be scared of this, especially if you are a developer.
hehee i liked how you put "waiting to be flamed" at the end of your post.
I guess i would tend to disagree with what you said to some extent. Though what you said is partially true, with M$ coming out with new versions of their software every two or three years may companies think that to stay ahead they have to "upgrade", well this is SO's chance. When the next round of "upgrades" is supposed to take place, (possibly with Office 2000) many companies may decide to try to save a few bucks and go with SO. This would be good, and i will be happy.
more people should realize this... "In a society bent on rampent consumerism, political, ethical, and moral concerns vanish beneath the glitz of a new toy claiming our attention in the next 30 second spot."
"Some guy will create an easy-to-use [cracking] application and send it out to the world because they get a kick out of it."
reality check, dont you think most people would do this because they object to the restriction of free formats/music? rather than doing it for sport, granted people probabally do this just to spite micro$oft but i doubt that is the biggest reason. its all about freedom.
it could be the two dogs living at the house haveing sex, or it could be the womans boyfriend giving her a nack rub, or it could be tai-bo night at the Jones residence...
if the police busted in to interrupt a back rub it would be law-suite city, especially in sue crazy America. Until these divices get better, fear of making a multi-million dollar law suite would keep most police departments from using such a device in this way.
not to say that this would never happen, but the risks seem too high for it to be a widespread occurence. more likely the police i know and love would use it for some stupid task like tracking illegal shipments of beanie-babies to and from canada.
i have a question, if someone is going to take AOL to court over this, (pending whether or not AOL re-distributes it's once GPL'ed code) who is it going to be? is it up to the developers of tik to do it, or can any disgruntled person go sue crazy?
i appreciate people's concern over animals but sometimes it gets out of hand. I never did understnad why people go nuts-O over animals when there are so many other more important things to protest. dont get me wrong, i love animals, and i love to help them, and no i dont eat them, but when you pick a cause to fight you should pick a good one. not to say that the little ones should be ignored, but you will accomplish much more by choosing a good fight. that being said, people should complain about rape, murder, theft, starvation, education, polution, and tabloids before they bring up penguins.
and i guess you are a typical sloppy speller! America Sucks, but until you buy my ticket out of here, i am stuck. Happy friday the 13th, i think ill rent a good slasher movie tonight!:P
facetious - jokeing or jesting, often inappropriately.
why would this be bad, my mother would really like linux, she could have a really kool kde theme, and she wouldnt have to understand why her computer just randomely crashes, or why her registry is corrupted (what is a registry? and what does corrupted mean? she would ask) oh and why do system settings just randomly change? you got me but my mother would love it!!!
you dont think that people wont incorporate both installers, and maybe give the user a choice? why not, is it not a valid possibility. I agree with you in that i dont really want lizard, but who knows, maybe someone will take lizard and totally revamp it and make it nice. Then again they could take it and totally make it worse than it is. My point being that the possibilities are endless of what could happen, and to say that you would quit useing linux because a few script kiddies get their hands on it is absurd. And what makes you think that all linux distro's are going to try to be desktops. Isnt linux's strength in the server end of things? so why would linux forget its roots? you got me.
i got the demo and i was really impressed, it was quality and it looks really nice. I have also purchased Civ3 lately, and even though i dont really like the game, it was put together really well. Now lets see, ill have Myth 2 (when it comes out), Civ3, Quake, Quake 2; that is 4 games. hrummm, plus StarCraft which runs very well under wine. That is basically 5 games that are of very good quality (well starcraft is only pretty good quality due to the fact that you have to run it with wine). I am glad to see Linux becoming more of a gameing platform, im sure it wont be long before someone makes a distro tuned for gameing. Now only if support for openGL was improved upon.
this is the coolest tag-line i have seen all day. oh wait back to the post... i dont think that stopping piracy etc, etc will ever happen. 1). there are too many people willing to pirate/steal intellectual property. 2). software/music/video are entirely overpriced. 3). humans dont have any morals (especially Americans).
no matter how hard you try to stop them humans will continue to steal, now you may be able to put the axe down onto the necks of some of these big distributors, but i can tell you right now there is no way in hell that you will ever stop friends sharing info/software/mp3/vcd with friends, and let me tell you; everybody has about 3 barrels of friends.
so go ahead and stop the big distributors they are stupid for trying to put up such big sites anyways, but you will never stop the public from this theft with lawsuits. the issue is much deeper, and only education, understanding, and tolerance will bring the theft of intellectual property to a halt.
People will write anything to get hits to their web sites... and it looks like that is what this guy did. What is the point in contradicting yourself really? you dont accomplish much, other than showing off your ability to debate and last i knew his page wasnt a debate page. sounds like a scam to get hits.
"In the Linux for the masses the command line interface (CLI) is dead. What may of worked for line printers and dumb terminals has been made obsolete by PCs with graphics cards capable of supporting a GUI."
I think i have heard this one before like 100 times, why is everyone so scared with command line interfaces. Why can't there be a GUI and a CLI? You could hide it from the user maybe, but why kill it? CLI's are very powerful and i couldnt ever see myself using an OS without one. Reason being that with a CLI you dont need a customized "wizard" to guide you through setup, etc. Doesnt it seem pretty silly to have a different window pop up for every little task that you want to do in an OS? I think CLI's are the ultimate in customization for any OS, after all you are only limited by your own imagination with what you can do with it, you can combine commands, redirect output/input, pipe output/input. Lets see you do that with a GUI. I think it would get very messy. This guy should just stick to windoze from the sounds of it, or maybe better yet he should buy a calculator...
i think this is one of the sillies things that i have ever heard of, (other than people selling their ultima online acct's) now how often do you type in a url randomly? come on lets be real, when i want a new car i dont go and type in www.ford.com i go to a search engine and type in ("used" and "cars" and "red" and "DMC" or "Delorian") People dont usually go randomly surfing unless they are really bored and have nothing to do. it is ludicrous to think that people would spend thousands of dollars on a domain name like suckmypole.com????? what is up with that. i could maybe understand a company like Pepsi wanting to buy pepsi.com, but for real some of this is just ludicrous. after all isnt this what search engines were made for?
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looks to me like they cant handle all the requests for beta testers because their application process is not running very smoothly...
now we just need 3com to make drivers for the 574 pcmcia ethernet card, because as anyone who has ever tried to get that damn card to work with the existing drivers knows, it just never works right...
Slashdot links to alot of web sites, which link to lots of web sites, which link to lots of web sites. In all everyone is only 19 clicks away from any point on the web. Does that mean we are all guilty.
I am sorry but as we would all agree, this is a lame lawsuit.
you are totally correct in saying what you did, but i think that the bottom line from people and the cause for concern is that the license is misleading. a possible fear from developers would be working very hard to make SO better, then Sun either not incorporating the changes into the product, or deciding to start charging for the product using the changes the developers made to further make Sun rich.
Which wouldnt hurt me, since iown lots of Sun stock... anyways people have a right to be scared of this, especially if you are a developer.
just my 2 cents!
hehee i liked how you put "waiting to be flamed" at the end of your post.
I guess i would tend to disagree with what you said to some extent. Though what you said is partially true, with M$ coming out with new versions of their software every two or three years may companies think that to stay ahead they have to "upgrade", well this is SO's chance. When the next round of "upgrades" is supposed to take place, (possibly with Office 2000) many companies may decide to try to save a few bucks and go with SO. This would be good, and i will be happy.
more people should realize this...
"In a society bent on rampent consumerism, political, ethical, and moral concerns vanish beneath the glitz of a new toy claiming our attention in the next 30 second spot."
i love how the article quotes
"Some guy will create an easy-to-use [cracking] application and send it out to the world because they get a kick out of it."
reality check, dont you think most people would do this because they object to the restriction of free formats/music? rather than doing it for sport, granted people probabally do this just to spite micro$oft but i doubt that is the biggest reason. its all about freedom.
someone must have gotten AOL today. /.
but it wont stop us from enjoying
it could be the two dogs living at the house haveing sex, or it could be the womans boyfriend giving her a nack rub, or it could be tai-bo night at the Jones residence...
if the police busted in to interrupt a back rub it would be law-suite city, especially in sue crazy America. Until these divices get better, fear of making a multi-million dollar law suite would keep most police departments from using such a device in this way.
not to say that this would never happen, but the risks seem too high for it to be a widespread occurence. more likely the police i know and love would use it for some stupid task like tracking illegal shipments of beanie-babies to and from canada.
i have a question, if someone is going to take AOL to court over this, (pending whether or not AOL re-distributes it's once GPL'ed code) who is it going to be? is it up to the developers of tik to do it, or can any disgruntled person go sue crazy?
i appreciate people's concern over animals but sometimes it gets out of hand. I never did understnad why people go nuts-O over animals when there are so many other more important things to protest. dont get me wrong, i love animals, and i love to help them, and no i dont eat them, but when you pick a cause to fight you should pick a good one. not to say that the little ones should be ignored, but you will accomplish much more by choosing a good fight. that being said, people should complain about rape, murder, theft, starvation, education, polution, and tabloids before they bring up penguins.
happy friday the 13th!
and i guess you are a typical sloppy speller! :P
America Sucks, but until you buy my ticket out of here, i am stuck. Happy friday the 13th, i think ill rent a good slasher movie tonight!
facetious - jokeing or jesting, often inappropriately.
why would this be bad, my mother would really like linux, she could have a really kool kde theme, and she wouldnt have to understand why her computer just randomely crashes, or why her registry is corrupted (what is a registry? and what does corrupted mean? she would ask) oh and why do system settings just randomly change? you got me but my mother would love it!!!
if its open source you can remove the advertisements :)
you dont think that people wont incorporate both installers, and maybe give the user a choice? why not, is it not a valid possibility. I agree with you in that i dont really want lizard, but who knows, maybe someone will take lizard and totally revamp it and make it nice. Then again they could take it and totally make it worse than it is. My point being that the possibilities are endless of what could happen, and to say that you would quit useing linux because a few script kiddies get their hands on it is absurd. And what makes you think that all linux distro's are going to try to be desktops. Isnt linux's strength in the server end of things? so why would linux forget its roots? you got me.
i got the demo and i was really impressed, it was quality and it looks really nice. I have also purchased Civ3 lately, and even though i dont really like the game, it was put together really well. Now lets see, ill have Myth 2 (when it comes out), Civ3, Quake, Quake 2; that is 4 games. hrummm, plus StarCraft which runs very well under wine. That is basically 5 games that are of very good quality (well starcraft is only pretty good quality due to the fact that you have to run it with wine). I am glad to see Linux becoming more of a gameing platform, im sure it wont be long before someone makes a distro tuned for gameing. Now only if support for openGL was improved upon.
this is the coolest tag-line i have seen all day. oh wait back to the post... i dont think that stopping piracy etc, etc will ever happen.
1). there are too many people willing to pirate/steal intellectual property.
2). software/music/video are entirely overpriced.
3). humans dont have any morals (especially Americans).
no matter how hard you try to stop them humans will continue to steal, now you may be able to put the axe down onto the necks of some of these big distributors, but i can tell you right now there is no way in hell that you will ever stop friends sharing info/software/mp3/vcd with friends, and let me tell you; everybody has about 3 barrels of friends.
so go ahead and stop the big distributors they are stupid for trying to put up such big sites anyways, but you will never stop the public from this theft with lawsuits. the issue is much deeper, and only education, understanding, and tolerance will bring the theft of intellectual property to a halt.
you didnt get my point.
come on mow www.suckmypole.com???? WTF
People like Jon maddog Hall should be in charge of benchmarking. Then the world would be a better place.
People will write anything to get hits to their web sites... and it looks like that is what this guy did. What is the point in contradicting yourself really? you dont accomplish much, other than showing off your ability to debate and last i knew his page wasnt a debate page. sounds like a scam to get hits.
"In the Linux for the masses the command line interface (CLI) is dead. What may of worked for line printers and dumb terminals has been made obsolete by PCs with graphics cards capable of supporting a GUI."
I think i have heard this one before like 100 times, why is everyone so scared with command line interfaces. Why can't there be a GUI and a CLI? You could hide it from the user maybe, but why kill it? CLI's are very powerful and i couldnt ever see myself using an OS without one. Reason being that with a CLI you dont need a customized "wizard" to guide you through setup, etc. Doesnt it seem pretty silly to have a different window pop up for every little task that you want to do in an OS? I think CLI's are the ultimate in customization for any OS, after all you are only limited by your own imagination with what you can do with it, you can combine commands, redirect output/input, pipe output/input. Lets see you do that with a GUI. I think it would get very messy. This guy should just stick to windoze from the sounds of it, or maybe better yet he should buy a calculator...
i think this is one of the sillies things that i have ever heard of, (other than people selling their ultima online acct's) now how often do you type in a url randomly? come on lets be real, when i want a new car i dont go and type in www.ford.com i go to a search engine and type in ("used" and "cars" and "red" and "DMC" or "Delorian") People dont usually go randomly surfing unless they are really bored and have nothing to do. it is ludicrous to think that people would spend thousands of dollars on a domain name like suckmypole.com????? what is up with that. i could maybe understand a company like Pepsi wanting to buy pepsi.com, but for real some of this is just ludicrous. after all isnt this what search engines were made for?
" ...they will stay out past their curfews, and, perhaps, they will have their first beer. "
wow what a bunch of rebel kids... sounds more like teen football jocks to me.