You are right and then also wrong. The Internet (Big "I") has always had the big "I" matter of fact it used to have a lot of big letters. First it was MILnet (which I worked on) then it was ARPnet and then it was the Internet. Gore only got financing to turn it into the advertizing mess that it is in now. Gore do not create shit!
Well if you noticed it didn't come from the G4 site it came from Kevin's own site. I am in complete agreement about what G4 did to tech TV. I watched it all the time for 4 years. They really need to drop the TechTV because there is not tech on there anymore. Did they forget that there is more to computers than playing games on them?
Look guys go do your homework.... The Internet was first started in the 70's when Gore was smoking dope in collage. Yes there was an Internet long before web browsers and it was a better place to be.
by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 03, @12:21PM
An end to anonymity, and that is something I fully support! No one on the internet should be anonymous! It's just wrong.
Humm.... yet they post as Anonymous. Or did they just forget their name, address, date of birth, Social Security Number, Email Address, and of course IP number and MAC address??????
Sun App Server is free as in beer. It also has good doucmentation and runs on Winders, Solaris or Linux. We tried to install Tomcat and got caught in dependecy hell. The Sun App Server installed without a hitch.
You are right it goes both ways. They have a right to their words and I have the right to speak back. What I have is truth and you can't argue with that...
Respect??? No I'm not looking for it either. High horse? Nope I don't own a horse. Hell I ain't nobody. Just another Indian. We can argue over perspectives but the point was in the begining of this post was utter bullshit. I did what I needed to do... Point it out.
All I was saying is I have no respect for the orginal poster and that is my choice. You are entitled to yours.
You know I read in one of your other posts you said "In the history book that I read." History is written by the winner. What I know about the Trail of Tears didn't come from a history book It happened to MY family!!! What I know of Native culture and history didn't come from a book. It is me. That doesn't make me anybody special. It is just who I am.
All I'm saying is if your going to spout bullshit expect a response!
We never killed children BEFORE the euros got here! You said Indian people killed German children. You are most likely right. Tell me a case where Indian people killed the children of other Indian people. what happened to the Indian people by these Germans before this killing???
Killing of children was taboo. It wasn't until after the euros got here and started killing our children that we started killing their children.
I never said that we were peaceniks. Hell I'm the first to say that even today you put 5 Indian men in a room for more than 3 hours you will have an arguement. Matter of fact this WAS our down fall. We could never band together as a whole. Even with my own tribe (Cherokee) we would rather side with the US an with the Creeks. We fought the Creeks for hundreds of years. Yet we also married their women.
You are right in the fact that our wars were more like street gangs fighting than real war. don't tell me their is no difference I have been in both. both can be brutal and deadly, but war is the true horror. Street gangs may fight in LA but you don't see combined forces coming into LA burning it to the ground and killing everything that moves. In war this happens on a day to day basis.
Even with all that one big thing is we NEVER killed in the name of God. didn't your Pilgrim ancestors kill in the name of God? War is something between people and only people.
You also missed or didn't bring up my point about the White man keeping his word. Yes your Wampanoag ancestors sided with the Pilgrims but after the Naragansett where gone didn't the Pirgrims then turn against the Wampanoag????
I'm not knocking your people mine did the same we helped Andrew Jackson win his war of 1812 aganist the Creeks and the British and for our help we got removed!
Actually I am a nice person and respect others that respect me and my culture. Respect is earned not given with me. Their bad attitude breeds my bad attitude, and I will not lay back quietly and let such people spout their BS. If they don't like what I have to say then they should remain quite.
I missed one hurrah for Dr Jenner.... Still dispute the rest. Still most medicine does come from natural sources that Native healers found a long time ago. Here's you one. Next time you take asprin thank a Native American. It orginally comes from willow bark tea.
Another fact 6,238 treaties have been entered into by the US with Indian people and NOT ONE has been fully honored. Not true to you word nor your paper. Maybe you did have writing skills before us but the fact remains you have trouble following your own writing.
Everything you had to say is total bullshit through and through and attiudes like this is way the world is so fucked up with "Americanisum". People like you think you are so high and mighty. It will also be your fall. People like you have your head up your ass too far to see how really stupid you really are.
We did sail the sea. Asked any Native that their people lived on the coasts. Where do you think Kayaks came from??
The Chinese invented gun power. You all just stole the technology like everything else you have.
Advanced Agriculture??? Hell where do you think corn came from? Not only corn, but potatoes, tomatoes, beans, squash. You see I am Cherokee our whole culture was based on agriculture. We never hunted buffalo. We where farmers! Corn is NOT a natural plant in the state we all know it now. We changed it into what we have now that feeds most of the world. If it wasn't for our advanced agriculture you all would have starved when you got here.(See we were too nice. We should have let you starve)
Created vaccines? For one thing vaccines didn't come around until the 20th century dude... Fact! more than half of the medicines in use today came from a natural cure invented by Native People. Remember you good Christians burned all your Healers as Witches!
No we didn't have a written language until you all got here. You see we had no need for it. A person was as good as their words so we had no need of contracts to support truths and law suits. Another note. After you all got here and we did have a need of talking leaves (paper) One man is less than a year invented our written language. After its adoption had the tribe in less than 6 weeks most of the tribe was literate! Took you people centuries to develope your writting and at the time of your coming MOST of you COULDN'T READ OR WRITE!
Face it the only thing you brought with you were your diseased bodies and your total lack of respect for life and the attiude that you are above all things. The rest you either stole or outright took by force. Unfortunately this attiude is still alive and well and living in the US. You just proved that. This attiude is what has the rest of the world pissed off at us. (or people like you)
BTW there are ships and planes leaving hourly. Please get on one, and PLEASE take Bush with you. I'll even bet you voted for him
Scalping WAS a bounty hunter thing. You see it started with you got $10.00 for every "Red Skin" (thus the term Red Skin) of a male you brought in and $5.00 for every female or child "Red Skin" you brought in. When these piles of skins started to stink and were also to hard to carry around and trade. They reduced it to scalps. so scalping started.
Point of intrest.... Isn't it great that our Nations Capital's football's team is named after this. see the Indian wars still do exist.
Yes we can be "savage" but all in all our cultures are peaceful. We were too nice and had bad immigration laws. One thing that is differant between the two cultures is we NEVER KILLED CHILDREN! and with that thought who really was the Savage????
and what about all the BSD code in Winders.... Yes it is sprinkled all through it. Look at the CL FTP client. Also what about SFU (Services For Unix) This is built on Open Source.
Actually you are ON MILnet right now. The orginal idea was in the 60's (yes I was there but I don't remember) you could by a few well place missle shots knock out all communications say from coast to coast. This wasn't a good thing. This gave birth to the idea of Grid Networks where if one node was knocked out traffic would automatically route through another node. Yes orginally this was called MILnet. Later the military saw that it couldn't pull this off by itself so DARPA funded ARPnet and connected schools to the system and funded these schools to come up with the technology to make it work. (Students will work for free) This all got started with less than $500,00.00. This all became ARPnet. Later when it went commerical it became the Internet.
Yes boys and girls this was way before the www too. We had fun little aminals back then like gopher and fun search engines like WAIS and the only mice were scurrying around in the barracks. We even untarred tarballs from real tapes!
Yes there still is a MILnet (*.mil) all the secure communications run point to point over tunneled connections, but it does run on the same backbone as we do. Its not a different Internet but as always part of this one.
People tend to think of the Internet as the World Wide Web but it is and always has been more than web sites and email. Its a communications framework now made up of thousands of networks.
One big problem with running under a limited user account is that a lot of common Windows programs will not run under a limited users account. One such program is QuickBooks. This is even true with W2K.
Life is more valuable than property. By a factor of infinity. There are no exceptions. Property can be replaced, living things can't.
If your life is more valuable than my property the solution is simple DON'T break into my house.
You come in here without knocking and you will die. People who wish me no harm knock at my door and are warmly greeted and INVITED in. Those who enter with a crow bar are warmly greeted with a.45 and will never here the shot that killed them.
If you want someone to care about your life then so some respect, and respect is earned not given.
What is the deal? you think you are somebody because you can "call" yourself a programmer? Before I work for $40 for 80 hours. I'll go down and get a job at Micky Dee's and ask "Will you take fries with that." I have more respect for a person like that. At least they make a honest living and make a hell of a lot more money than you do.
Yes you are to blame. You and every cheap whore like yourself.
Where is your reasoning??? You are commiting a crime and NOT making any money at it. we all can see that you ARE too lazy to go and get a real job.
I too work freelance and have been approched to do some shady things. I would rather go and rake leaves out of somebody's yard first to make the bills (which I have before). At least that is a honest living.
Even had a spamming operation one time offer me 20 times our normal hosting fee to co-host their servers. Did I? HELL NO! Maybe I should have been the "Normal" American business man and took the money and run but my honor is pricless. In other words you don't have enogh money to buy it. From what you had to say your honor is only worth about $0.05 per hour. I ask what kind of human being are you??? OH! just another American business person I suppose....
You complain about what your corporate boss was paying you but you had to be at least making minium wage doing what you were doing. This would be about 30 times more than you are making now so how can you say you weren't making money at that job? You where making more then than you are now.
I think you problem about getting a decent job is more about your attiude. Look at what you said. Even when a spammer hires you. You write shitty code. See you can't even do that job right. Even if you think you can justify it. When I take a job I do it right. If I don't agree with what the work entails then I don't take the job. Very simple logic. Would I hire you??? HELL NO!
Somebody should take you out back and beat some sense into your head with a 2X4.
BTW there are no rewards for idiots like you and just when did you do the "right" thing????
Funny it doesn't look anything like a cookie from the captured source code.
Also have you bother to check on what Avenue A does for a living? They sell data on companies. What to but information from your competitor? Want to find out how he's bidding work. Well they will sell you this info! Now how exactly do they harvest this information. Know how to say "Data Mining".
Spybot didn't give an error when I went to this companies internal site which uses session cookies. Whatever you say thier is more going on here than just cookie's and milk.
I agree with you fully. The only way to stop this is to hit the people in the pocket. Not only go after the spammers but the people that are running the ads. Hell they're the easy ones to find anyway.
Today I got a call from one of our clients we take care of about spyware problems. Now they have all the latest and greatest in cleaning tools. They all are net savy and don't click every box that pops up. Well some got so bad today they wouldn't function. The woman's in charge was the worst and I know this lady does know how not to screw things up and she was swearing up and down. "I haven't done anything!"
Well 4 hours later for 2 people we get everything cleaned back up. I set the "Tea Timer" on Spybot S&D and set it to show a prompt when it hit something. (setting the prompt is something I have never done before). I fire up IE and the home page is msn.com and BANG "Cannot download file AvenueA, Inc". FROM MSN!!!! Yes folks trying to download in the background from an ad image. Coming from machine name view.atdmt.com and it hiding behind the image trying to sell you msn broadband service!!!
They call this "Trusted Computing"?
Yes friends not only will MS sell you a holey OS but then we will pirate it from you using their own exploits in their browser!
I called MS and of course it wasn't us. (even offer to send them the logs and the captures from the network, but I don't know what I am talking about...) After 3 hours I talked with a supervisor that "acted" like he cared. Well log files don't lie and neither do I.
No this is no joke. I wish it was. At least the problem is solved for our client. We blocked msn at the firewall
A point about this I'm not really a M$ basher hell I've made my living on NT since 3.51. True I perfer Linux but have always siad that M$ was ok and you could TRUST them. Well that ended that today. As I said I don't lie especially to people who are paying me and putting their trust in me so the next time I am asked "Can you trust Microsoft?" the answer will be NO!
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You are right and then also wrong. The Internet (Big "I") has always had the big "I" matter of fact it used to have a lot of big letters. First it was MILnet (which I worked on) then it was ARPnet and then it was the Internet. Gore only got financing to turn it into the advertizing mess that it is in now. Gore do not create shit!
Well if you noticed it didn't come from the G4 site it came from Kevin's own site. I am in complete agreement about what G4 did to tech TV. I watched it all the time for 4 years. They really need to drop the TechTV because there is not tech on there anymore. Did they forget that there is more to computers than playing games on them?
Look guys go do your homework.... The Internet was first started in the 70's when Gore was smoking dope in collage. Yes there was an Internet long before web browsers and it was a better place to be.
Did you know that you and I have EXACTLY the same porn collection?
An end to anonymity, and that is something I fully support! No one on the internet should be anonymous! It's just wrong.
Humm.... yet they post as Anonymous. Or did they just forget their name, address, date of birth, Social Security Number, Email Address, and of course IP number and MAC address??????
What do you think the real job of the CIA is???
Spying on foreign citizens and countries!
In theory (yea right!) the CIA cannot spy within the US.
In theory.......
Sun App Server is free as in beer. It also has good doucmentation and runs on Winders, Solaris or Linux. We tried to install Tomcat and got caught in dependecy hell. The Sun App Server installed without a hitch.
You are right it goes both ways. They have a right to their words and I have the right to speak back. What I have is truth and you can't argue with that...
Respect??? No I'm not looking for it either. High horse? Nope I don't own a horse. Hell I ain't nobody. Just another Indian. We can argue over perspectives but the point was in the begining of this post was utter bullshit. I did what I needed to do... Point it out.
All I was saying is I have no respect for the orginal poster and that is my choice. You are entitled to yours.
You know I read in one of your other posts you said "In the history book that I read." History is written by the winner. What I know about the Trail of Tears didn't come from a history book It happened to MY family!!! What I know of Native culture and history didn't come from a book. It is me. That doesn't make me anybody special. It is just who I am.
All I'm saying is if your going to spout bullshit expect a response!
You took that out of context.....
We never killed children BEFORE the euros got here! You said Indian people killed German children. You are most likely right. Tell me a case where Indian people killed the children of other Indian people. what happened to the Indian people by these Germans before this killing???
Killing of children was taboo. It wasn't until after the euros got here and started killing our children that we started killing their children.
I never said that we were peaceniks. Hell I'm the first to say that even today you put 5 Indian men in a room for more than 3 hours you will have an arguement. Matter of fact this WAS our down fall. We could never band together as a whole. Even with my own tribe (Cherokee) we would rather side with the US an with the Creeks. We fought the Creeks for hundreds of years. Yet we also married their women.
You are right in the fact that our wars were more like street gangs fighting than real war. don't tell me their is no difference I have been in both. both can be brutal and deadly, but war is the true horror. Street gangs may fight in LA but you don't see combined forces coming into LA burning it to the ground and killing everything that moves. In war this happens on a day to day basis.
Even with all that one big thing is we NEVER killed in the name of God. didn't your Pilgrim ancestors kill in the name of God? War is something between people and only people.
You also missed or didn't bring up my point about the White man keeping his word. Yes your Wampanoag ancestors sided with the Pilgrims but after the Naragansett where gone didn't the Pirgrims then turn against the Wampanoag????
I'm not knocking your people mine did the same we helped Andrew Jackson win his war of 1812 aganist the Creeks and the British and for our help we got removed!
Actually I am a nice person and respect others that respect me and my culture. Respect is earned not given with me. Their bad attitude breeds my bad attitude, and I will not lay back quietly and let such people spout their BS. If they don't like what I have to say then they should remain quite.
OK!
I missed one hurrah for Dr Jenner.... Still dispute the rest. Still most medicine does come from natural sources that Native healers found a long time ago. Here's you one. Next time you take asprin thank a Native American. It orginally comes from willow bark tea.
Another fact 6,238 treaties have been entered into by the US with Indian people and NOT ONE has been fully honored. Not true to you word nor your paper. Maybe you did have writing skills before us but the fact remains you have trouble following your own writing.
No he isn't really Native, and yes Native People HATE! the song and the asshole that wrote it!
Everything you had to say is total bullshit through and through and attiudes like this is way the world is so fucked up with "Americanisum". People like you think you are so high and mighty. It will also be your fall. People like you have your head up your ass too far to see how really stupid you really are.
We did sail the sea. Asked any Native that their people lived on the coasts. Where do you think Kayaks came from??
The Chinese invented gun power. You all just stole the technology like everything else you have.
Advanced Agriculture??? Hell where do you think corn came from? Not only corn, but potatoes, tomatoes, beans, squash. You see I am Cherokee our whole culture was based on agriculture. We never hunted buffalo. We where farmers! Corn is NOT a natural plant in the state we all know it now. We changed it into what we have now that feeds most of the world. If it wasn't for our advanced agriculture you all would have starved when you got here.(See we were too nice. We should have let you starve)
Created vaccines? For one thing vaccines didn't come around until the 20th century dude... Fact! more than half of the medicines in use today came from a natural cure invented by Native People. Remember you good Christians burned all your Healers as Witches!
No we didn't have a written language until you all got here. You see we had no need for it. A person was as good as their words so we had no need of contracts to support truths and law suits. Another note. After you all got here and we did have a need of talking leaves (paper) One man is less than a year invented our written language. After its adoption had the tribe in less than 6 weeks most of the tribe was literate! Took you people centuries to develope your writting and at the time of your coming MOST of you COULDN'T READ OR WRITE!
Face it the only thing you brought with you were your diseased bodies and your total lack of respect for life and the attiude that you are above all things. The rest you either stole or outright took by force. Unfortunately this attiude is still alive and well and living in the US. You just proved that. This attiude is what has the rest of the world pissed off at us. (or people like you)
BTW there are ships and planes leaving hourly. Please get on one, and PLEASE take Bush with you. I'll even bet you voted for him
Scalping WAS a bounty hunter thing. You see it started with you got $10.00 for every "Red Skin" (thus the term Red Skin) of a male you brought in and $5.00 for every female or child "Red Skin" you brought in. When these piles of skins started to stink and were also to hard to carry around and trade. They reduced it to scalps. so scalping started.
Point of intrest.... Isn't it great that our Nations Capital's football's team is named after this. see the Indian wars still do exist.
Yes we can be "savage" but all in all our cultures are peaceful. We were too nice and had bad immigration laws. One thing that is differant between the two cultures is we NEVER KILLED CHILDREN! and with that thought who really was the Savage????
Where have they all gone???? WE ARE STILL HERE!
Yes I am Cherokee and proud of it!
and what about all the BSD code in Winders.... Yes it is sprinkled all through it. Look at the CL FTP client. Also what about SFU (Services For Unix) This is built on Open Source.
Guess Steve will have to sue himself!
Yep and then they wonder why they have such a big bill for you cleaning out the trash (worms) in their system32 folder!
This is my biggest complaint about MS and companies the develop software for MS that must run as admin.
Makes you wonder why and WHAT are they writing to the system files anyway.
Actually you are ON MILnet right now. The orginal idea was in the 60's (yes I was there but I don't remember) you could by a few well place missle shots knock out all communications say from coast to coast. This wasn't a good thing. This gave birth to the idea of Grid Networks where if one node was knocked out traffic would automatically route through another node. Yes orginally this was called MILnet. Later the military saw that it couldn't pull this off by itself so DARPA funded ARPnet and connected schools to the system and funded these schools to come up with the technology to make it work. (Students will work for free) This all got started with less than $500,00.00. This all became ARPnet. Later when it went commerical it became the Internet.
Yes boys and girls this was way before the www too. We had fun little aminals back then like gopher and fun search engines like WAIS and the only mice were scurrying around in the barracks. We even untarred tarballs from real tapes!
Yes there still is a MILnet (*.mil) all the secure communications run point to point over tunneled connections, but it does run on the same backbone as we do. Its not a different Internet but as always part of this one.
People tend to think of the Internet as the World Wide Web but it is and always has been more than web sites and email. Its a communications framework now made up of thousands of networks.
Yea now you can call me an Old Fart!
Happy Grid Computing!
One big problem with running under a limited user account is that a lot of common Windows programs will not run under a limited users account. One such program is QuickBooks. This is even true with W2K.
If your life is more valuable than my property the solution is simple DON'T break into my house.
You come in here without knocking and you will die. People who wish me no harm knock at my door and are warmly greeted and INVITED in. Those who enter with a crow bar are warmly greeted with a .45 and will never here the shot that killed them.
If you want someone to care about your life then so some respect, and respect is earned not given.
I vote for #5
What is the deal? you think you are somebody because you can "call" yourself a programmer? Before I work for $40 for 80 hours. I'll go down and get a job at Micky Dee's and ask "Will you take fries with that." I have more respect for a person like that. At least they make a honest living and make a hell of a lot more money than you do.
Yes you are to blame. You and every cheap whore like yourself.
Where is your reasoning??? You are commiting a crime and NOT making any money at it. we all can see that you ARE too lazy to go and get a real job.
I too work freelance and have been approched to do some shady things. I would rather go and rake leaves out of somebody's yard first to make the bills (which I have before). At least that is a honest living.
Even had a spamming operation one time offer me 20 times our normal hosting fee to co-host their servers. Did I? HELL NO! Maybe I should have been the "Normal" American business man and took the money and run but my honor is pricless. In other words you don't have enogh money to buy it. From what you had to say your honor is only worth about $0.05 per hour. I ask what kind of human being are you??? OH! just another American business person I suppose....
You complain about what your corporate boss was paying you but you had to be at least making minium wage doing what you were doing. This would be about 30 times more than you are making now so how can you say you weren't making money at that job? You where making more then than you are now.
I think you problem about getting a decent job is more about your attiude. Look at what you said. Even when a spammer hires you. You write shitty code. See you can't even do that job right. Even if you think you can justify it. When I take a job I do it right. If I don't agree with what the work entails then I don't take the job. Very simple logic. Would I hire you??? HELL NO!
Somebody should take you out back and beat some sense into your head with a 2X4.
BTW there are no rewards for idiots like you and just when did you do the "right" thing????
Oh yea how about a BJ? I think I have a dime!
There is no such thing as a *good* lawyer....
Also have you bother to check on what Avenue A does for a living? They sell data on companies. What to but information from your competitor? Want to find out how he's bidding work. Well they will sell you this info! Now how exactly do they harvest this information. Know how to say "Data Mining".
Spybot didn't give an error when I went to this companies internal site which uses session cookies. Whatever you say thier is more going on here than just cookie's and milk.
I mod you up!
Today I got a call from one of our clients we take care of about spyware problems. Now they have all the latest and greatest in cleaning tools. They all are net savy and don't click every box that pops up. Well some got so bad today they wouldn't function. The woman's in charge was the worst and I know this lady does know how not to screw things up and she was swearing up and down. "I haven't done anything!"
Well 4 hours later for 2 people we get everything cleaned back up. I set the "Tea Timer" on Spybot S&D and set it to show a prompt when it hit something. (setting the prompt is something I have never done before). I fire up IE and the home page is msn.com and BANG "Cannot download file AvenueA, Inc". FROM MSN!!!! Yes folks trying to download in the background from an ad image. Coming from machine name view.atdmt.com and it hiding behind the image trying to sell you msn broadband service!!!
They call this "Trusted Computing"?
Yes friends not only will MS sell you a holey OS but then we will pirate it from you using their own exploits in their browser!
I called MS and of course it wasn't us. (even offer to send them the logs and the captures from the network, but I don't know what I am talking about...) After 3 hours I talked with a supervisor that "acted" like he cared. Well log files don't lie and neither do I.
No this is no joke. I wish it was. At least the problem is solved for our client. We blocked msn at the firewall
A point about this I'm not really a M$ basher hell I've made my living on NT since 3.51. True I perfer Linux but have always siad that M$ was ok and you could TRUST them. Well that ended that today. As I said I don't lie especially to people who are paying me and putting their trust in me so the next time I am asked "Can you trust Microsoft?" the answer will be NO!