I think you might be a little wrong on this. I work for a healthcare facility. 99% of our vendors only support Windows desktops and servers. The rest only support AIX backend with a Windows front end.
I think if you use group policy correctly, people won't know the difference between XP and Vista. So far from what I have been testing, it looks a little different, but still has the XP feel. I work in Health Care, nurses are hard enough to train on Windows let alone anything else. Of course then there are the vendors who support MacOSX or Linux. Not too many in the Health Care industry, on servers yes, on the desktop no.
HP does sell PCs with no OS on them. My company has been buying them for several years. They used to even ship them with Suse 9.2 CDs that had all of the drivers and such for that model.
My company just deployed Windows XP in this past year. Of course we just finished our Windows 2000 upgrade a year ago. We do plan to go to Vista within the year. I work for a hospital, once we get our main vendor (Epic) to support IE7 we will be starting the migration.
You don't have something set up right. I've had 30 workstations RISing at one time and still only took 20 minutes for the whole lot. I've had 15 laptops plugged into a Netgear switch all pulling the same image with no slowdown at all.
I agree, once you get it up and running, RIS works quite well. The parent also said it takes an hour or two to pull down an image with Unattended? It takes 15 to 20 minutes tops to pull down images with RIS. That right there makes RIS the clear choice for me.
I was DVDshrinking everything else as well, but I was at least waiting until the next day to throw them back in the mail. I would like to know what judgement they use in deciding whose movies they ship out right away and those whom they ship the next day. I get 8 at a time and a friend of mine gets 5 at a time, his movies have been shipping immediately after they recieve the last batch. Most the time mine are one to two days later. If I sit down with a pen and paper I can technically recieve more movies per week if I cut back to 5 at a time. You would think Netflix would like the extra couple bucks a month they are getting from me for 8 at a time and keep me happy. Also when new movie release dates are announced I move them to the top of my queue and "hope" I will be lucky enough to get a copy of it right around the time it comes out. I haven't had a new release the week it is released in months, I have to wait at least 6 weeks for it. I am not sure what business model Neflix is looking at, but they are about to lose me as a customer altogether.
If you have a Windows Server 2000 or Server 2003 environment, what about RIS? Once you get it set up, I think it is much faster than ghost for pulling images down, plus you don't have to worry about SIDs. Plus the big bonus it's FREE.
We've been using Lotus for several years in a hospital environment. Around 4,000 accounts. Lotus is a nightmare to keep up and going all the time. It no matter how much time we spend in preparation to upgrade clients, including getting IBM in to help, the upgrades always screw us. We are going to move to Exchange in the next year or so, not sure if it is much better, but it has to be better than Lotus.
Just limit access to what the users actually need to get to and call it good. I work for a hospital, the people who work in the E.R. on second and third shift were notorious for downloading spyware/adware, screensavers, desktops, etc. and then would call to complain their pc was slow. We have Border Manager, but it still let them get to "news" sites that downloaded this crap for them. So we took drastic measures and blocked their internet access by workstation. They can only get to sites that we designate as appropriate for their work. No more calls to clean up machines, and they actually can concentrate on saving lives instead of looking for a great George Clooney screen saver.
Oh yes, we have some Z53's as well, they last aqbout a year and then it's off to the junk heap and buy another one or get the newest deskjet model. The real kicker is the "remanufactured" toner cartridges that are half the price, but also last half as long. We have more problems with the chips on these cartridges reading invalid and having to send them back to Lexmark on our dime.
Lexmark's business class printers suck just as bad as thier home printers. We have about 500 Lexmarks where I work, ranging from Optra S's to T612's and they don't live up to thier specs at all. Most of these printers are swapped for repair on a monthly basis. We have logged a ton of tickets with our local Lexmark dealer about the T610's dropping thier IP address everytime you look at it wrong. Our Lexmark dealer brought a rep from Lexmark itself, denied ever having the problem and told us we needed to upgrade our printers. By the way the T6XX's are only a year or so old. After that meeting, we decided we are going phase out ALL Lexmarks and replace them with HP.
The release date for SWG was supposed to be today, I didn't reserve online for the fact I could get it faster buy running out to Best Buy when they open and be home and playing before the mailman got there. I get to Best Buy today and find out they're not putting it on the shelf until next Tuesday. When I went to Circuit City just down the road, they're doing the same thing. I had to go to a shitty computer store in the mall to get it, what the hell is up with that?
If the head is stripped as to where you can't use a cordless drill to back it out, then a socket would work just as well. I've never seen a screw that small that couldn't be removed with a cordless drill. The worst that would happen would the head of the screw would break off and then you could drill it out and retap the hole if you really needed to.
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I think you might be a little wrong on this. I work for a healthcare facility. 99% of our vendors only support Windows desktops and servers. The rest only support AIX backend with a Windows front end.
I think if you use group policy correctly, people won't know the difference between XP and Vista. So far from what I have been testing, it looks a little different, but still has the XP feel. I work in Health Care, nurses are hard enough to train on Windows let alone anything else. Of course then there are the vendors who support MacOSX or Linux. Not too many in the Health Care industry, on servers yes, on the desktop no.
HP does sell PCs with no OS on them. My company has been buying them for several years. They used to even ship them with Suse 9.2 CDs that had all of the drivers and such for that model.
My company just deployed Windows XP in this past year. Of course we just finished our Windows 2000 upgrade a year ago. We do plan to go to Vista within the year. I work for a hospital, once we get our main vendor (Epic) to support IE7 we will be starting the migration.
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You don't have something set up right. I've had 30 workstations RISing at one time and still only took 20 minutes for the whole lot. I've had 15 laptops plugged into a Netgear switch all pulling the same image with no slowdown at all.
I agree, once you get it up and running, RIS works quite well. The parent also said it takes an hour or two to pull down an image with Unattended? It takes 15 to 20 minutes tops to pull down images with RIS. That right there makes RIS the clear choice for me.
I was DVDshrinking everything else as well, but I was at least waiting until the next day to throw them back in the mail. I would like to know what judgement they use in deciding whose movies they ship out right away and those whom they ship the next day. I get 8 at a time and a friend of mine gets 5 at a time, his movies have been shipping immediately after they recieve the last batch. Most the time mine are one to two days later. If I sit down with a pen and paper I can technically recieve more movies per week if I cut back to 5 at a time. You would think Netflix would like the extra couple bucks a month they are getting from me for 8 at a time and keep me happy. Also when new movie release dates are announced I move them to the top of my queue and "hope" I will be lucky enough to get a copy of it right around the time it comes out. I haven't had a new release the week it is released in months, I have to wait at least 6 weeks for it. I am not sure what business model Neflix is looking at, but they are about to lose me as a customer altogether.
If you have a Windows Server 2000 or Server 2003 environment, what about RIS? Once you get it set up, I think it is much faster than ghost for pulling images down, plus you don't have to worry about SIDs. Plus the big bonus it's FREE.
We've been using Lotus for several years in a hospital environment. Around 4,000 accounts. Lotus is a nightmare to keep up and going all the time. It no matter how much time we spend in preparation to upgrade clients, including getting IBM in to help, the upgrades always screw us. We are going to move to Exchange in the next year or so, not sure if it is much better, but it has to be better than Lotus.
I charge $70 an hour and have to turn away business, time to up my rates again.
Just limit access to what the users actually need to get to and call it good. I work for a hospital, the people who work in the E.R. on second and third shift were notorious for downloading spyware/adware, screensavers, desktops, etc. and then would call to complain their pc was slow. We have Border Manager, but it still let them get to "news" sites that downloaded this crap for them. So we took drastic measures and blocked their internet access by workstation. They can only get to sites that we designate as appropriate for their work. No more calls to clean up machines, and they actually can concentrate on saving lives instead of looking for a great George Clooney screen saver.
Oh yes, we have some Z53's as well, they last aqbout a year and then it's off to the junk heap and buy another one or get the newest deskjet model. The real kicker is the "remanufactured" toner cartridges that are half the price, but also last half as long. We have more problems with the chips on these cartridges reading invalid and having to send them back to Lexmark on our dime.
Lexmark's business class printers suck just as bad as thier home printers. We have about 500 Lexmarks where I work, ranging from Optra S's to T612's and they don't live up to thier specs at all. Most of these printers are swapped for repair on a monthly basis. We have logged a ton of tickets with our local Lexmark dealer about the T610's dropping thier IP address everytime you look at it wrong. Our Lexmark dealer brought a rep from Lexmark itself, denied ever having the problem and told us we needed to upgrade our printers. By the way the T6XX's are only a year or so old. After that meeting, we decided we are going phase out ALL Lexmarks and replace them with HP.
The release date for SWG was supposed to be today, I didn't reserve online for the fact I could get it faster buy running out to Best Buy when they open and be home and playing before the mailman got there. I get to Best Buy today and find out they're not putting it on the shelf until next Tuesday. When I went to Circuit City just down the road, they're doing the same thing. I had to go to a shitty computer store in the mall to get it, what the hell is up with that?
If the head is stripped as to where you can't use a cordless drill to back it out, then a socket would work just as well. I've never seen a screw that small that couldn't be removed with a cordless drill. The worst that would happen would the head of the screw would break off and then you could drill it out and retap the hole if you really needed to.