I somehow doubt that the original conceivers of copyright law intended for most of the world's works to be locked up in 'corporate vaults' never to see the light of day again because the estimated potential profits off of those works were considered too small to be worth it. But publishers, especially bigger ones, only seem to care about the most profitable mass-market stuff. Why don't they team up with Google to sell electronic versions of those books that are OOP? They could surely make a killing... but perhaps those companies tend to be too conservative and risk-averse.
Sounds like Perfect 10 was able to show economic harm (lost sales to cellphone users)
I don't really see how this can be the case unless we're talking about people who accessed images.google.com via their cellphone. Otherwise they would have been using a PC anyway and hence would have had access to the images on the Internet, and would not have formed part of the (really odd or desperate or stupid) market who want to look at tiny little low-res porno images on their cellphone for exorbitant prices.
I thought the crux of the Perfect 10 case was that it wasn't fair use because the entire work was reproduced (just smaller). I don't see how this can apply to Google Book Search unless they plan to reproduce each book in its entirety in the search results (which of course would be stupid and impractical).
It wasn't my post - gosh, pay some attention. Are you arguing that surveillance isn't one of the core conditions of the dystopia described in 1984? If so, I'll have to go with mmdog and say that you must surely have read a different "1984" to the one I read.
I don't think throwing more money at the education problem is going to fix it - education is already pretty well-funded as it is. It is possible to create an excellent education system on far less than the current education budget. The problem is with the quality of education and the methods used and the approach. Read Richard Mitchell's Less than Words Can Say for an (entertaining and) insightful critique into this issue.
And yet you are unable to provide even one single actual rebuke of anything posted. You have no argument at all, just pure ad hominem. Wow you must be on really strong ground slash sarcasm.
Sssh, it's currently "trendy" to bash Google for being evil. Doesn't matter that it's totally illogical - it's a fashionable meme, that's what counts. By defending Google you are showing your uncoolness. Regurgitate the current soundbites and you'll be OK.
You seem so sure, but how can you know this if there is no transparency in the voting process? Answer: You can't. It's impossible. You. Don't. Know. Unless you have access to information that nobody else has, which I strongly doubt. This has nothing to do with who happened to win in the case - it's about the process.
Also, blackboxvoting is not considered a reputable source.
So your logic is as follows:
A: blackboxvoting is not a reliable source
B: blackboxvoting suggests that elections were rigged
THEREFORE: the suggestion that elections were rigged must be false
?
That's a logical fallacy (poisoning the well)... the reliability of blackboxvoting has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the claims are true or not... if blackboxvoting said "the sky is blue" would you reject that too?.
It amazes me how often the term 'conspiracy theorist' is used to dismiss people.
It's not just used to dismiss people. It's used to control people. Think of the 'chilling effects' it has on shaping public discourse over important issues that affect everyone.
Personally I'm a believer in the notion of the "simplest logical explanation" in determining whether or not something seems like "tinfoil hat stuff" or probable explanation. In this case, looking at human history, at the ins and outs of making voting machines (it's really not that hard and other countries have done it just fine), at the crazy number of coincidences and the extremely partisan nature of the company that made the machines, I'd say the "simplest logical explanation" points to election rigging.
Nice strawman, but GP didn't say 'ban' anything -- just that all the options have consequences, and that to determine the appropriate course of action one must study the consequences. Duh. If putting up 10+ floor buildings caused such disruption to air currents that world climates went into turmoil then yes we friggin should ban them, but they don't, and so we (very) obviously don't ban them. If pulling power from water currents caused such disruption that they messed up wind and sea current patterns in a devestating way then yes we should ban them, but if not then we don't.
And quite frankly that reasoning should be obvious to a 6-year old.
Gee, let's see, what "moral advantage" does someone who thinks and works hard have over someone who refuses to think and relishes in ignorance and laziness. I don't know.. gosh.. this question is just so hard to answer.
Can't remember if it locked the system, but yup, there was, the internal OS counter that counted the number of milliseconds since bootup was a 32-bit unsigned integer, which allows for about 49 days uptime before the counter wraps.
Contrary to what Microsoft thinks, sometimes a plethora of choices doesn't lead to customer happiness.
Microsoft is not after customer happiness, they're trying to maximise revenue. Simplifying product range and complexity is a common strategy of a company that must compete. Increasing the complexity of a product range (with increasingly fine-grained artificial market segmentation) is a common strategy of a company with little or no competition.
fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on... let's not be hypocritical.
Oh really, so all those Linux distro producers are also creating artificial market segmentation in order to practice price discrimination in different markets with different points of elasticity?
No??
Then STFU, because the two situations really are completely different, and hence, nothing hypocritical about it at all.
Good grief, what ignorant misinformation. UNIX did not have file extensions. There is an attribute for executable content and the filetype is otherwise determined from the contents. Check out the "file" command ("man file"), which has been included in every UNIX since at least 1973: It does not even look at the file extension.
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Huh, Anonymous Coward? The above was my post - I guess I must've pressed 'post anonymously' by mistake.
Yikes, did some funny South Africans tag this article? 'Poes' is a 'lekker' South Africanism meaning, more or less, 'pussy' ...
Wow ... ridiculously ignorant cultural stereotypes - not just for whites anymore!
never to see the light of day again
Before some moron attacks that statement, yes I know copyright expires, the above is a figure of speech used as hyperbole.
I somehow doubt that the original conceivers of copyright law intended for most of the world's works to be locked up in 'corporate vaults' never to see the light of day again because the estimated potential profits off of those works were considered too small to be worth it. But publishers, especially bigger ones, only seem to care about the most profitable mass-market stuff. Why don't they team up with Google to sell electronic versions of those books that are OOP? They could surely make a killing ... but perhaps those companies tend to be too conservative and risk-averse.
Sounds like Perfect 10 was able to show economic harm (lost sales to cellphone users)
I don't really see how this can be the case unless we're talking about people who accessed images.google.com via their cellphone. Otherwise they would have been using a PC anyway and hence would have had access to the images on the Internet, and would not have formed part of the (really odd or desperate or stupid) market who want to look at tiny little low-res porno images on their cellphone for exorbitant prices.
I thought the crux of the Perfect 10 case was that it wasn't fair use because the entire work was reproduced (just smaller). I don't see how this can apply to Google Book Search unless they plan to reproduce each book in its entirety in the search results (which of course would be stupid and impractical).
It wasn't my post - gosh, pay some attention. Are you arguing that surveillance isn't one of the core conditions of the dystopia described in 1984? If so, I'll have to go with mmdog and say that you must surely have read a different "1984" to the one I read.
demand that your government fund education
I don't think throwing more money at the education problem is going to fix it - education is already pretty well-funded as it is. It is possible to create an excellent education system on far less than the current education budget. The problem is with the quality of education and the methods used and the approach. Read Richard Mitchell's Less than Words Can Say for an (entertaining and) insightful critique into this issue.
And yet you are unable to provide even one single actual rebuke of anything posted. You have no argument at all, just pure ad hominem. Wow you must be on really strong ground slash sarcasm.
Sssh, it's currently "trendy" to bash Google for being evil. Doesn't matter that it's totally illogical - it's a fashionable meme, that's what counts. By defending Google you are showing your uncoolness. Regurgitate the current soundbites and you'll be OK.
Slashdot posts = flamebait = "heated discussion" = advertising eyeballs = Profit.
Bush won fairly.
You seem so sure, but how can you know this if there is no transparency in the voting process? Answer: You can't. It's impossible. You. Don't. Know. Unless you have access to information that nobody else has, which I strongly doubt. This has nothing to do with who happened to win in the case - it's about the process.
Also, blackboxvoting is not considered a reputable source.
So your logic is as follows:
A: blackboxvoting is not a reliable source
B: blackboxvoting suggests that elections were rigged
THEREFORE: the suggestion that elections were rigged must be false
?
That's a logical fallacy (poisoning the well) ... the reliability of blackboxvoting has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the claims are true or not ... if blackboxvoting said "the sky is blue" would you reject that too?.
It amazes me how often the term 'conspiracy theorist' is used to dismiss people.
It's not just used to dismiss people. It's used to control people. Think of the 'chilling effects' it has on shaping public discourse over important issues that affect everyone.
Personally I'm a believer in the notion of the "simplest logical explanation" in determining whether or not something seems like "tinfoil hat stuff" or probable explanation. In this case, looking at human history, at the ins and outs of making voting machines (it's really not that hard and other countries have done it just fine), at the crazy number of coincidences and the extremely partisan nature of the company that made the machines, I'd say the "simplest logical explanation" points to election rigging.
Nice strawman, but GP didn't say 'ban' anything -- just that all the options have consequences, and that to determine the appropriate course of action one must study the consequences. Duh. If putting up 10+ floor buildings caused such disruption to air currents that world climates went into turmoil then yes we friggin should ban them, but they don't, and so we (very) obviously don't ban them. If pulling power from water currents caused such disruption that they messed up wind and sea current patterns in a devestating way then yes we should ban them, but if not then we don't.
And quite frankly that reasoning should be obvious to a 6-year old.
You score 3 out of 10 on the troll-o-meter ... way too obvious, but bonus points because you still somehow got quite a bunch of replies.
Gee, let's see, what "moral advantage" does someone who thinks and works hard have over someone who refuses to think and relishes in ignorance and laziness. I don't know .. gosh .. this question is just so hard to answer.
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You can't legally resell OEM licenses.
Can't remember if it locked the system, but yup, there was, the internal OS counter that counted the number of milliseconds since bootup was a 32-bit unsigned integer, which allows for about 49 days uptime before the counter wraps.
Because look at all the free advertising they're getting now. You just can't buy such effective and widespread marketing.
Where did I say they don't exist?
Contrary to what Microsoft thinks, sometimes a plethora of choices doesn't lead to customer happiness.
Microsoft is not after customer happiness, they're trying to maximise revenue. Simplifying product range and complexity is a common strategy of a company that must compete. Increasing the complexity of a product range (with increasingly fine-grained artificial market segmentation) is a common strategy of a company with little or no competition.
Market segmentation (with rate fences and aimed at price discrimination) is not the same as substitute competition. The latter is actually good for you.
You put forth that users must either choose between user-friendly with "bloat", or lean and mean but user-hostile. This, however, is not the case.
fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on ... let's not be hypocritical.
Oh really, so all those Linux distro producers are also creating artificial market segmentation in order to practice price discrimination in different markets with different points of elasticity?
No??
Then STFU, because the two situations really are completely different, and hence, nothing hypocritical about it at all.
Good grief, what ignorant misinformation. UNIX did not have file extensions. There is an attribute for executable content and the filetype is otherwise determined from the contents. Check out the "file" command ("man file"), which has been included in every UNIX since at least 1973: It does not even look at the file extension.